The Battle of Ap Bac | Training the ARVN (Army of Vietnam)

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“Training ARVN” examines US Foreign Internal Defense (FID) doctrine through the early years of the Army of the Republic of Vietnam. ARVN came to look like a mirror image of the US Army of the 1960s. Under American advisement, South Vietnam developed its abilities in its war against North Vietnam and the National Liberation Front. Yet ARVN’s deficiencies contributed to the United States’ decision to introduce American combat forces in 1965.
0:00 Intro
0:46 Chapter 1: Foreign Internal Defense The doctrine chapter
3:56 Chapter 2: Origins How ARVN came about
15:21 Chapter 3: Sea Swallow and Ấp Bắc Two different ARVN performances
22:34 Chapter 4: ARVN's Reputation The lasting effects of Ấp Bắc
25:32 Epilogue
27:14 Credits
For more from AUP on the Vietnam War, see James H. Willbanks, "Vietnam: The Course of a Conflict." www.armyupress.army.mil/Porta...

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@ArmyUniversityPress 7 ай бұрын

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@MemoryofSouthVietnam 4 ай бұрын

Keep in mind that the vast majority of the ARVN, officers and soldiers, were brand new recruits only under training for ~3-4 years. The defeat, a culmination of communication failure and lack of experience, would have been overcome by a strong officer corps. But the thing is, a strong officer corps takes generations to develop.

@ReySchultz121 3 ай бұрын

I am so glad you're here.

@PhongHoang-nd4le Ай бұрын

Mới huấn luyện được 3 , 4 năm thôi mà thua các chiến sỹ VC chỉ huấn luyện 3 đến 4 tháng.

@ian-Alex-2000 Ай бұрын

@@PhongHoang-nd4leFalse. VC were dead after the Tet Offensive. NVA had much more ammunition than ARVN.

@sidatphan7054 14 күн бұрын

@@ian-Alex-20003 sticks losers can’t fight so stop arguing

@ian-Alex-2000 14 күн бұрын

@@sidatphan7054NVA can’t fight, they lost to Cambodia in the 80’s. Not tough at all without soviet and chinese backing.

@MemoryofSouthVietnam 4 ай бұрын

People are already concluding how poorly the ARVN performed and how it was all worthless in the end. Keep in mind that this battle only happened 4 years after the ARVN was had undergone a massive restructuring and expansion in 1959.

@randymasten9183 8 ай бұрын

I am looking forward to this film!

@roycharlesparker 8 ай бұрын

This film looks absolutely amazing!! Well done!!

@Dayvit78 7 ай бұрын

Nice archive footage!

@DigitalCodeOwl 8 ай бұрын

I cant wait!

@lzxray6781 4 күн бұрын

Lt. Colonel John Paul Vann was the U.S. advisor for Colonel Cao ARVN. Vann had came up with the plan to attack a VC battalion discovered outside Ap Bac, Cao and his subordinates stalled and balked and ruined the entire plan of attack and the VC killed numerous ARVN and CIDF forces and shot several helicopters down and failed miserably.

@KenshiroPlayDotA 8 ай бұрын

9:05 : Was there any significant effort to help South Vietnam develop a denser road network to help support ARVN operations ? It might also have helped boost the economy and gain more support in the countryside. Also, since my Vietnamese is extremely rusty, is it possible to get a list of the songs used in the video ?

@U4Spittelau 8 ай бұрын

Yes, the U.S. did help South Vietnam improve its road network. New bridges were built and unpaved roads were, well, paved. However, PLAF did interdict roads--landmines and ambushes--which kept some key rural routes closed for much of the American War. As for your last question, we used recording form a Saigon Government radio broadcast and not individuals tracks.

@Dayvit78 7 ай бұрын

The economy was entirely based on rubber for exports (I think about 80% of exports?). It would not have helped the economy - there was only so much rubber needed in the world. Also Japan was developing synthetic rubber during this time. And the city economy was basically American aid - tons of TVs, radios, etc. But all supplied by US money.

@U4Spittelau 7 ай бұрын

@@Dayvit78 South Vietnam had a developing economy stagnated by war. To know what could have happened if the U.S. didn't try to help South Vietnam economically is counterfactual.

@kevinduong337 7 ай бұрын

I know for sure that the end credit song is a wartime recording (I believe 1971) of Ai cho tôi tình yêu - Thanh Thúy

@BaronVonHobgoblin 5 ай бұрын

Be that as it may, it seems odd that the NVA didn't have corruption issues of its own. Was perhaps the way the two sides dealt with, or didn't deal with corruption, a contributing factor to the failure of the American Efforts? This failure to address Civil-Military Corruption within a FID mission seems to be an ongoing thing with the Army. To my mind, as both an ex-infantry and ex-civil-affairs solder, running down and then addressing this corruption is THE MISSION for Civil Affairs in a FID mission! There is no way the Army is going to succeed in future FID missions with Civil Affairs Subordinate to JSOC. Civil Affairs needs its own 4-star command and its own permanent G/S Shop on staff!

@doorcf 2 ай бұрын

the PAVN was politically motivated so while they almost certainly had problems with corruption, suffering it to such a level it impacted operations would have been something the north vietnamese government would've fought against, specially with the battlefield pressures the americans gave.

@christopherwang4392 29 күн бұрын

Whatever corruption issues the NVA had, they likely covered them up.

@darkbelg 7 ай бұрын

This felt to short. I'm missing the effects of what the us army had on ARVN when they were deployed. And if anything changes when the generals came into power. The conclusion I get is that the army failed because of its officer core. Is there going to be an analysis of Afghanistan to? Or is this to recent?

@joqqeman 7 ай бұрын

Its not a full scale documentary or analysis. It shows what training foreign military entails and what challenges it faces. Its an interesting example because it proved so misguided and unsuccesful in the end.

@savannablade5078 9 күн бұрын

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@guyring8912 7 ай бұрын

ARVN problem was poor leadership and politicians! Arvn was just as capable in combat as NVA/VC there was no difference in them. However, political meddling, corruption, and poor leadership destroyed that. US should've taken full control of ARVN in 55 and not relinquished that control without withholding support! Colonel David Hackworth wrote about this in "ABOUT FACE "! peace

@jerryle379 7 ай бұрын

Wrong , arvn soldier are mix quality , there really good division that can rival any nva division aka the airbone , marine , ranger ,.. then there more shitty division form by mostly drafty

@guyring8912 7 ай бұрын

@@jerryle379 Draftees can perform on battlefield if well lead. Corruption and poor leadership never allowed for them to become competent units!

@TranHungDao. 6 ай бұрын

They only lost because of low ammunition and supplies. They were given 60 bullets a day after the USA left.

@guyring8912 6 ай бұрын

@@TranHungDao. US Congress also reduced and then cut off aid. All for nothing..sad!

@TranHungDao. 6 ай бұрын

@@guyring8912 Yeah, there was one Arvn battalion who was known to be corrupt, they ruined it for the whole arvn. Most of Arvn were not corrupt, most of the ARVN was defending an invasion. The ARVN never left a man behind, there was a story about this USA soldier who was a football player that got stuck in one of the holes. Instead of retreating, ARVN stood by him and fought off the Viet Cong and NVA. No one ever talks about the courage of the ARVN, they literally fought til the end.

@Sokol10 11 күн бұрын

In Ap Bac the ARVN commanders refuse follow the guidance of the American advisor flight about the battlefield because they "don't take orders from Americans". The paratroopers land in the Vietcong line of fire because their command don't accept the American advisor instruction for landing behind Vietcong lines. If an ARVF commander lost many soldiers, he lost their face, can lost his command, his career - Dien want fight a war without causalities. In the end ARVN commanders lost the battle, lost many soldier and lost their faces.

@yunarsosuhardi8302 Ай бұрын

Only happy memories remain behind the corruption that undermined the might of the ARVN

@Francois_the_notable 4 ай бұрын

The major reason that caused the ARVN to collapse is Bolero (Spanish music) that music is just too good it caused soldiers to lost morale significantly to the point of desertion

@DedicatedCitizen 28 күн бұрын

Weaponized incompetence and weaponized corruption is the Truth we are never told. Politically motivated, Ideological motivation, and the truth left out is Theological motivation in our attempts to create a Catholic dictatorship. Do you think the South Vietnamese Buddhist gave their all fighting for an essentially Catholic system?

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@maynardcapellan1969 3 ай бұрын

Communist Domino Effect is just Kissinger's Hallucination...

@ian-Alex-2000 Ай бұрын

It literally came true. Nicaragua went communist, and tried to turn the rest of Central America communist shortly after the communists took Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia.

@RVNSaigon Ай бұрын

@@ian-Alex-2000 just not the way the US imagine Domino Effect but true.

@ian-Alex-2000 Ай бұрын

@@RVNSaigon Absolutely! Dominoes fell. Not the dominoes we thought would fall, but they fell nonetheless! Assuming your username represents where you’re from, I hope you get your country back soon, friend!

@RVNSaigon Ай бұрын

@@ian-Alex-2000 thank you but that is not priority right now. Priority right now is be a thriving successful US citizen and pass knowledge to next generation.