i appreciate seeing this shoutout. research has been done. nice that the museum wanted to help you!

It's a shame that the Colorado Coalfield War took place before the Great War, because it would be grand to see you cover that, Great War Team.

@@shawngilliland243 maybe on their general history channel!

Thank you for taking time to do this episode on my home. There’s a celebration This year marking the 100th anniversary. You sir are an honorary Appalachian.

See the movie Matewan by John Sayles. Stars Chris Cooper, James Earl Jones and David Strathairn

Amen Brother!! Have been to Matwan,Blair Mountain and Welch where Sid Hatfield was gunned down.

Yes!

Until surprising recently it was illigal for west virgina schools to teach these parts of American history

@@hunterfranke4833 Illigal? Unionized teachers?

America's religion is capitalism...theyd be damned to let this history reach the majority

16 Tonnes by Tennessee Ernie Ford, first thing I thought about too

@@rutgerius123 I have it on an old 78 record.

“16 tons” is a classic. It’s easy to find on KZfaq.

Check out some Joe Glazer, David Rovics, Pete Seeger, Hazel Dickens, Anne Feeney and Utah Phillips, among others. There's A LOT of folk music on Labor by many artists, not just Ernie Ford.

Paid in company money to spend at company stores while your children go to company schools and your wife cleans the company housing.

Happened to veterans of the Revolution during The Whiskey Rebellion and later to WW1 vets with the Bonus Marchers.

“Thank you for your service!” Yet there are no shortage of morons and sell outs ready to fill the ranks despite all the historical evidence of the disdain society seems to have for military members! (“Soldiers are dumb animals..”-H. Kissinger)

@@partymariner Everyone hates the soldier until the enemy is at the gates.

@@partymariner Cough, "Tommy", 1890, Kipling. Everything old is new again.

@@partymariner heh "thank you for your service".. how bitter those words .. perversely it seems sometime more like a way to mock them than praise them... as the are homeless on the streets..

5 years old... ?

@@cd5433 Yup. His father died and he, along with his older brothers, had to go to work. Back then it was work or starve.

@@cd5433 The Mining Union were really messed up. Children of that age and younger were mining miles underground only to be treated as property to the bosses. It's pretty obvious why people declared a war.

@@cd5433 Work or starve. Such was how cruel life was back then... yet we complain today if we don't get overfed. They were happy if they had enough money for bread and cheese.

@@Khornecussion Regardless of that being true You ALWAYS fight for you and your “tribes” place I’m annoyed by the complaining because they never do anything, not because they should “just be happy”

Because generational wealth buys freedom. Time to rebuild the justice system and increase inheritance taxes to high thresholds. We have families that have been billionaires since the 1600's, and that's ridiculous to exist at all, let alone 400 years.

@@volk4523 and make the government the monopoly? No

Im blizzard Jr Jr jr and proud of my great grandpa

@@memelordsamby498 that's awesome!

happened a lot more than you think.... look up Tulsa race massacre

What I am getting is that we need a new Soviet Union, if just to force the US to do the basic stuff to not look bad.

West Virginian leaders have always been turncoats since it was formed. The people aren’t that way.

What year was this do you know? Interesting

Talk about a strong HR department 😨

This made me laugh 😆

pew pew pew pew

Beatings will continue until morale improves.

Certainly what I would call a toxic corporate culture.

That is disturbingly fascinating to hear. Thanks for bringing it up.

They tried to coup a sitting president!?

@@juwebles4352 Yes, a group of the richest men in the US plotted to get FDR out of office in July 1933. They believed his meddling in the country's economics was making the Depression much worse (and making them less rich). They tried to convince Retired Marine Corp Major General Smedley Butler to take the job of getting rid of FDR by leading Soldiers to remove him from office. He refused and turned them into the Justice Department. Butler actually wrote a book a couple of years earlier called "War is Just a Racket" denouncing the "Banana Wars" that he famously fought in and the Rich Capitalists as pirates and war mongers. Why they would ask him is just beyond stupidity. The Rich Guys (of course) were never punished, just blackmailed by FDR to keep their mouths shut and stop making trouble.

Yeah, a guy who made a living speaking publicly against fascism and corporate links to the military was asked by some corporations to lead a military coup to install a fascist government. Sounds legit. Apparently there were 500,000 soldiers ready at arms but none were ever found. Strange that. Guess old Smedley single-handedly saved the world that day.

@@celluskh6009 General Butler had made public statements in the past about FDR and Hoover (the Hoover remarks are what forced him to retire). He was considered a controversial individual and in the past he hadn't been reprimanded for some of his actions due to the fact that his father had been the Chairman of the House Naval Service Committee (oversaw Navy and Marine Budgets). Later in life he was constantly making comments in public that criticized political figures for their involvement in Corporations and Foreign Intervention. Between that sentiment and his two Medals of Honor it was felt that he had the respect of the average Soldier or Marine and person on the street to carry off a coup against Roosevelt. He respected the Constitution and didn't want anything to do with any action against the Government. Is it possible that plot actually happened? Several writers have attempted to verify the event and some historical data (based on eyewitnesses and some memos written by certain individuals exists it actually may have been attempted). The Media ridiculed General Butler publicly over the "Supposed" Plot. And the Government has never confirmed it. However a House Committee under Congressmen McCormack-Dickstein after a several month investigation and dozens of witnesses testifying, published a report that confirmed there was enough evidence to believe such a plot had been attempted. That it had not gotten beyond the planning stages and that it mostly certain individuals putting out feelers to see who would support their coup. Also remember that several of "supposed" plotters owned many of the major newspapers of that era and used that Media to ridicule Butler after he outed their plot. One rumored plotter was William Randolph Hearst as he and FDR were bitter political enemies over stuff his papers had published during the FDR election and afterwards. He also disliked Butler over his statements about Hearst's Yellow Journalism that instigated many of the Foreign Interventions by the US Navy and Marines in the "Banana Wars" of the early 20th Century. I can't see him supporting Butler to lead a coup as Gen Butler had a reputation for scrupulous honesty, but Hearst hated FDR even more than Butler. He probably considered Butler a pawn to be used and if the plot failed than Butler would be ruined and jailed.

"another year older and deeper in debt..."

@@JDSFLA year or day? Some Sysco drivers deliver 8-10 tons a day to around 15-20 different businesses I think miners are doing more if they are loading only. Loading 16 tons a year you wouldn’t be eating lol. Another day older

Saint Peter don’t call me cuz I can’t go. I owe my soul to the company store

which side are you on will you be a union man or a scab for jh Blair

@@fkujakedmyname guy with a picture of sherman asking if you're gonna be on the 'people's side' or the corporations side. LMAO. how ironic. you're also subbed to a channel named 'useful idiots' HAHAHA

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@@WildFreck Cope, Capitalist.

boss makes a dollar, i make a dime that's why i watch Great War on company time

Shh! they might hear you.

don't you need the jobs the bosses provide?

well, schools can’t mention everything. Haymarket, the great railroad strike, and many other strikes have happened and are mentioned in schools. Explaining the causes and the effects of the entire gilded age sometimes doesn’t like time for individual events

I learned about it in US history

It really depends on where you live. This is something that got mentioned in my school. Same as the Homestead riots. But being living in a coal patch really does shift the focus to things like this.

Unless you grew of in WV. You have to take two years (4th and 8th grades) of West Virginia history during school. I've found West Virginian's typically have a greater understanding of their local history and a greater appreciation of where they come from compared to other states.

@@user-K8T Yeah I live in the Rust Belt near chicago so we focused a lot on the Chicago fire, and the post war booms for our area.

Not surprised. They voted against their interests. So why bother remembering that?

I'll second this. This was the first creator I financially supported, and I'm over the moon to see something "local" getting covered.

I'm surprised at that. Allegedly you can amble along alot of those mountains including Blair and still find the old weapon caches placed in before and right after the battle. I guess that's where all the 'get vaxxed, get a free gun' incentive program by W.V. government guns are coming from? lol.

not surprised in the least...

My impression is a lot of West Virginians fly the Confederate flag thinking it's part of West Virginia's history, when it is in fact *opposition* to that flag that's the reason West Virginia exists as a state.

I'd assumed as much. WV isn't exactly a massive place, and folks liked to keep local in those parts and in those days

Actually he was an adopted member.

If we are going to talk about that feud, we should remember that while there was bad blood between members of those clans which side you were on depended more on which side of the river you were on. Or in plainer terms which state you were in. Then to really destroy the legend it was an old resolved issue which the coal companies brought up so they could get all the locals off all the coal rich land for less than market value. So maybe that was the first Virginia coal war.

But he wasn't though..

Thought as much, thank you.

Your state used to be so based. Wish it got its act together and started spilling the blood of these types of rich crooks again

just wished they learned to pronounce the names of towns right...

@@MrRekarbenots yes nobody can pronounce them right unless they give it the accent

@@mikeyorkav4039 I'm a West Virginian and your speaking facts. Imagine what the Patriots would think if they saw the bs this government is doing and us all sitting around doing nothing.

A reasonable standard of living you say? Sounds like a whole lot of Russia to me!

A higher standard of living at the cost of our capital? Sorry no can do

"What are you, a COMMUNIST?" - American Politicians (when a worker asks for a sick day or a pay raise)

Yet they always vote Republican... 🤦‍♂️

Gold miners in Australia protested the gold licence The miner movement lead to The establishment of the modern Labour party

Because the people in power don’t want you to know about it

@@internetperson436 - wrong.

@@carlyellison8498 how so

@@internetperson436 keep your powder dry pal. This is coming back around again

@@internetperson436 - if people in power do not want you to know about it, then how is it on KZfaq? And should it be flagged and reported?🚩🚩🚩

is it true that there are no neutrals there

As a southern West Virginian...I do too!!

Thanks!

Don't want to give folks ideas.

You're the second person to say this here. Is this for real? When were you in high school, or did you teach there? I asked because my Dad is from McDowell county, my grandfather And several others in my family were miners and I was raised hearing about these events. There was a time when it seemed like everyone in West Virginia knew about it. I'm stunned at the idea that that's changed.

@@Jay-ho9io My aunt was a teacher in West Virginia. She told me that The Battle of Blair Mountain is barely mentioned in a texted book. Maybe a sentence or two

@@serge00storms jfc. Thanks. I'm stunned.

In Wood county at least, I remember having a month section in WV Studies devoted solely to the mine wars. It helps that our teacher is also in the state government as the rep in Charleston. I was in high school in the mid 2010s.

My great grandfather's legs got cut off in a mine, where he bled out and died.

Rest well, friends. No more suffering where you are now...

Hello West Virginian resident and a formal coal miner who lost his job in the mines from politics that laid off miners I was in the first 700 of those layoffs even in the modern days miner's life's are controlled by politics. But all in all West Virginia is a great place to live and raise a family

Glad you enjoyed it!

Well my daddy's a miner and I'm a miners son

You never leave Harlan alive.....

This

That's an argument for doing it on the main channel. If you spin it out only those who look for it will find it, and the people who needs to hear this the most are not looking for it.

Lots of content creators have more than one channel, and this has proven successful for them more often than not. Your argument can also be interpreted as those who don't like obscure or labour histories on the main channel can disengage and go elsewhere.

the more and more i read up on labour history in america, it is more imperative how labor activism coincided with the early civil rights movement activism in the 1920s. for example i did not know about the Salt Wars and the Pecan Shellers strike in my region. once i become a history teacher i will incorporate the most major events of american labor history in my curriculum

@@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift There are many others like the "Black Patch War" in Southwest Kentucky that climaxed in a raid and temporary occupation of Hopkinsville before the towns Tobacco warehouses were burned and the raiders withdrew.

Well it's a small world, I finished watching it a few minutes ago and I agree with you it's a great film.

Hmmm I have. And I grew up in California. I guess I know alot about history

Insane, but I cannot find it in me to think of this as anything but an act of desperation. Crazy times

That's true, but I'd say comparing this to say, the dissolution of the Eastern bloc, kinda also true.

Amen!!

Every country on earth is evidence of it. All we have left to choose is socialism or barbarism

@@smrtfasizmu7242 🤦‍♂️ You socialist and Communists are delusional. "I don't like the rich elites so let's give them even more power than what they already have and also totalitarian control over my life and also give up my property" 🤦‍♂️

@@smrtfasizmu7242 how's about more freedom instead of tyranny?

@@forsaken22 that's not even close to what I believe. What i believe in is: communal control of the means of production by those who work them, democratic control of each workplace by those who work there with no leaders over us (a worker's council), and a central government created by and from representatives of said workers councils and answerable at all times to them which has the power only to help efficiently organize the transportation of goods between areas of different councils. It's sad that people like you cling to a broken system in the hopes of one day climbing to the top at the expense of your fellow human being, through solidarity and communism we will all live better lives

There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun

@@AlexandraBryngelsson yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one

But the union makes us strong!

Solidarity forever Solidarity forever Solidarity forever

@@AlexandraBryngelsson For the union makes us strong!

Source?

More than the three day battle at Gettysburg? Highly doubtful.

@@mjbachman3027 its true modern machine guns firing constantly all day will do it

As right wingers lose their shite about games being "political" 🤣

@@LostButBroken bruh games are so political its just every game shows the USA shitstomping their enemies

Not ironic in the least. Sort of like how nowadays, cops are paid a lot more than the minimum wage workers they're supposed to keep in line.

Cruelty is the point.

Keeping power is more important than profits to capitalists

Didn't the Pinkerton's drive through the miner's town and shoot the place up?

“”Detectives””

@@Sigmar_Heldenhammer loaded them up on flatbeds and drove them through spraying everything

Its a white-washed video

@@alexanderl.6207do you know of any better videos that aren’t whitewashed?

That's a huge reason WV is the poorest state today, and with the largest drug problem. If anyone truly understands the struggles of black communities in America with the wall placed on growth for the longest time it's West Virginia's, different reasons with the exact same results.

my great grandpa fought in this war...coal miner from McDowell county

Oh, but that might make you socialists...

@@SonsOfLorgar what is wrong with that

that's no accident, the less you know about it, the less likely you'll be able to recognize it.

modern day robber barons (Bezos, Musk, Zukerberg) and their supporters in both the GOP and the non-progressive Democrats(Joe Mansion, Krysten Cinemma) don't want workers to get any ideas

Don't want you to get ideas of doing this to the bosses today.

Glad you posted this. I love that movie. Ending narrative about keeping him with us....ah man.

The ending gunfight was tremendous. Sad that Hatfield would be murdered in public later by the coal company.

Well it's a small world, I finished watching it a few minutes ago and I agree with you it's a great film.

A respectful correction, its Matewan. Glad you brought it up, thank you 👍

Now on KZfaq.

Solidarity forever! The Internationale unites the human race! ✊🏻⚒🚩

✊🧠👊✌

"Workers of the world, unite"!?? Where have I heard that, before?!? Hmmm, Bolshies??

@@paulwolf7562 the First French Republic did it first.

Power to the Union!

this is what the movies was about? i saw the movie advertisement, and thought it had to do with Matawan, NJ.

@@thomaschristopher8593 brilliant movie

Ola vizinho. Saúdos de Galicia

Being from WV it was killing me every time he said it lol.

Miners at Blair Mountain: "COWABUNGA IT IS"

The mayor: this warrant is cap

Tragically people today sooner be slaves than die for their freedom.

We mention the Red Summer in our Red Scare video, and we interviewed an expert on Tulsa for our Real Time History audio podcast.

@@jessealexander2695 that's awesome

they being?

Research the Homestead Strike of 1892.

We barely covered the whiskey rebellion at my school

you're a damn fool!!!

@@keithmoore5306 yes you are.

@A Fels can you please explain why? I make double what I made on my last job.

@@Girli-u8l They won't be able to.

@@Jay-ho9io What makes Amazon so special that an union wouldn't be able to help the workers?

Yes sir! and who can blame them after the way they were treated! there is a great podcast about it called Martymade whos america the first episode covers the battle at blair mountain and the events leading up to it. interesting listen...

@@origintrackz5235 Thanks for the recommendation, I’ll listen.

@@origintrackz5235just saw this comment… thank you for your reply… i’ll check it out!!

Maytwan?

I saw the movie.

Yeah, i grew up not far from there and use to listen to my Great Grandfather and his friends talk about the coal wars

Yeah, it's weird hearing him repeatedly mispronounce the name of the town.

Also, it's WELCH, not Welsh...but thank you for the content...wonderful!!!

And some people don’t want it taught because it will make the mine owners uncomfortable

If you taught actual us history, the people would want the heads of the rich as i already do

@@mikeyorkav4039 French revolution 2.0

@@mikeyorkav4039 yet they’re somehow convinced a shyster NYC “billionaire” is one of them and on their side.

@@mikeyorkav4039 Exactly, if people in the USA weren't fed propaganda instead. The vast majority would overthrow the system, if they ever learned the horrific truths of this dystopian hellscape.

Mine workers always fight for what's right. And F Thatcher, ofcourse.

@@AlexandraBryngelsson they weren’t fighting for what was right. Scargill wanted to be dictator of Britain. The Nottingham miners didn’t strike for the reason that it would just destroy their industry. Striking actually just hastened the end of coal mining in Britain. Ultimately it ended with Scargill trying to steal his flat off the union. It was all due to his vainglorious hubris.

Scab.

It's called "Company Script"...no it wasn't ever legislated.

@@SMichaelDeHart Now that I know what it was called I'm happy to find that it was made illegal by the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938.

I recently visited the town and we had only seen it on a map so we said Matt-e-wan. We learned the correct pronunciation at the Mine Wars Museum. I only learned the correct way myself like 2 weeks ago, but I found myself getting annoyed at hearing it mispronounced in this video... As if I have any right...

Another aspect of the social conflicts of the time theat gets overlooked.

Ironically the kkk are dressed up like the Catholics in Europe

Solidarity

@@Kaanfight solidarity comrade

@@tunisiwi he was a peasant who led an army of peasants against the white army, for about a year helped to build a viable and successful anarchist project and was betrayed by the imperialist red army in their conquest of Ukraine. Cope harder tankie

Mine too!!

@@SMichaelDeHart Family history for a lot of folks from the area. I have been to many of the locations that came up and heard about it from my granddad and Great Uncle who were alive back then. My mom is from Mingo County.

During the Meuse Argonne Offensive more ammo was fired in the opening 3 hour bombardment than during the entire US Civil War. Also I believe was the highest casualty rate of any US military action.

Stopped by to say this lol!

Bold of you to assume they won't just have straight up "indentured servitude" that can never be paid off

@Alex Funk they'll defend it to the death

Gonna end up like Red Faction.

@@smrtfasizmu7242 I was being optimistic but you're correct

@@steverambo4692 actually I looked it up and the proper term is "peonage slavery" and, despite being federally outlawed in 1867, it was still in practice as late as 1963 in some areas of the South . . . And that's assuming we've found every plantation where it was still happening

Yes 👷🖤❤🛠

All the power to the workers!

The US military or US police?

If we get too overt with our dissatisfaction with the status quo, probably.

@@michaelgreen1515 the military.

We did - City of Philadelphia ( under democrat control) bombed & burned out the MOVE organization & a number of city blocks coveted by the University of Pa. Completely written out of history primarily due to the fact that MOVE was (& is) an African American movement. The US government during the Clinton administration perpetuated WACO - killing children to save them. Who knows what might have happened if the brothers & sisters of MOVE had been able to meet & ‘reason together’ with the brothers & sisters of WACO?? We might be living in a multiracial beloved community free of duopoly & capitalist barbarism……

@@richardsprout9259 And let's not forget the Tulsa Massacre either!