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1st time a YT notification made my jaw drop

Me!

Hell yes! Took me a half second to process this and I immediatly clicked

Can't believe it's been that long...

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haha bro you had me literally Laughing out loud! I never thought that would be the first thought of somebody when i started my opening lines.

@@MontemayorChannel It is exactly what I was wondering too

That is exactly what I thought!

@@MontemayorChannel precisely my thoughts as well, glad you've returned

It’s hard to predict patrol routes when even the patrol doesn’t do it right

Patton said reptedly he never had a plan 1st because any plan is wrong after the 1st minute of fight, and 2nd because how can the enemy guess what you're going to do if you have no idea yourself ?

@@madjic-uc8hf Explains why he was the most incompetent allied general

@@MarvoloSalazar according to ?

@@BobBob-zg5lz Mission failed succesfully...😂

standard us military doctrine: the enemy cant predict our actions if we dont know what the fuck were doing lol

@@thepie8u Which isn't a statement of incompetence or really even chaos, but operational freedom for frontline commanders. If the frontline commanders see a target of opportunity, they're free to just go for it without getting prior authorization...or at least, it used to be that way.

The US had the advantage in surprise, numbers, quality of equipment, and dedication of war fighters.

@@thepie8u Really, that's just operational freedom, which is crucial on the battlefield.

@@tremedar Tbh a lot of Countries today operate under this doctrine since WW2 it proved to be really efficient (unlike the strict "do as you are told" from japan and WW1 in general) But it is a double edge sword, most of the time if you do whatever the f you want and go for your own "freedom of objetive" and then make a huge blunder if you survive you may end up facing court marcial (on some places)

I sent him more money than I would ever pay for a movie/documentary. This was a masterpiece!

@@dbznappa but is sure took a while

His is definitely the most in depth review of Midway I have seen, though Battle 360 did an alright job. They had the veterans speaking about their experiences too.

Leafeon Boy that’s probably the only thing missing that keeps this from being PERFECT now that u mention it

My buddy hyped up the Midway movie and I just kinda shrugged and said "a youtuber already did it better"

The ultimate screwup was the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

@@Chuck_Hooks yep, if they had waited for the carriers to get back to port their attack would have been far more impactful

@@Chuck_Hooks Yes, followed by having their entire plan cracked by the American intelligence and then not knowing about it.

"The reason the American Army does so well in war is because war is chaos and the American Army practices chaos on a daily basis."

Maybe the unpredictibility of the US military at ww2 that caused them win the war in europe and pacific

Luck Favors the Prepared - Alden Mills

@@tirebiter4009 or Luck is where preparation meets opportunity.

I find the harder i work the more luck i have

Radar and intelligence is main factor. Japanese with x number of carriers cant beat radar equip and code breakers.

I love RPG's and if there's a skill tree for luck, I put all my extra points into luck. Luck makes all the difference in peoples lives. Me personally, I'm exceedingly unlucky as I was born with pain (didn't even know it, just thought it was depression & chronic fatigue) and then due to a worldwide shortage of a period-pain specific birth control pill, am now in constant, severe, permanent, and increasing pain & thus, opiate doses (as nothing else works, so I'll have to end my life when the dr stops prescribing; this push-back of opiates has many casualties)...

Button mashing

And then somehow achieving a high combo and going "I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE FUCK I'M DOING!!!"

Considering the actual skill disparity of the time, this is accurate.

Lose to button smashing still feel better than 1 move spamer

Keep in mind, the important thing in war, is who wins. Doesn't have to be neat and organized as long as you're the last man standing. Or, in this case, the last navy floating.

For real, watching all those lucky coincidences that happened to the Americans in midway makes me feel that some divine entity really wants those 4 Japanese carriers sunk

It wasn't all blind luck, but luck was involved in those days... locating the enemy fleet first, and tracking it with some accuracy was a big deal.

​@@VenturiLife And the saying goes "Time spent in reconnaissance is rarely wasted". How many times throughout has it happened honor and ego costed a clear victory.

Chance favors the prepared mind. Louis Pasteur

"Calculated." -US Navy, before returning to huffing Elmer's glue.

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LOL. Excellent.

whether this is true or not it reminds me of these quotes: "A serious problem in planning against American doctrine is that the Americans do not read their manuals, nor do they feel any obligation to follow their doctrine." "The reason the U.S. Military does so well in wartime is that war is chaos, and the U.S. Military practices chaos on a daily basis."

@Mirokuofnite I actually had those quotes in mind, but Leroy Jenkins is the tldr version of those so I chose the later

Yeah, basically.

Same here, and I knew this stuff from a history I read a bit back. Wish I could remember the name of that book to share with you.

Yeah, this was completely riveting.

My thoughts exactly.

Agree. These were outstanding. Also watching the Pearl Harbor one. I think the "from the Japanese perspective" is extremely useful to hear/see.

Well said sir!

This deserves so many more likes...

“Even your carriers can’t as well, I can better Hiryu” - Lt. Kobayashi Michio

You'll be Soryu for making that pun.

@@CarterBartram you mean -rising pun-

-bean brain noises-

And I want to give a big thumbs down to Hornet's Flight to Nowhere. Admiral Mitscher should have been courtmartialed and grounded permanently after that. It is sad how Hornet's failure at Midway is never ever talked about in documentaries or by Hollywood.

@@nogoodnameleft I see your point! but in combat, leaders have to act on information that is only a piece of what they need to make good decisions. The outcome sometimes come down to luck, and the training that allows units to adjust.

@@expeditionaryfamily I agree but the Navy's propaganda department postwar did a fantastic job of a cover up of the Hornet's failure. Hornet's failure led to Yorktown being sunk, for example. It should be talked about everytime Midway is talked about but they never want to talk about Hornet's failure that led to the sinking of Yorktown.

American aircraft: *misses 3 bombs* The Japanese navy squad: *confused screaming*

I agree the Yorktown is easily my favorite aircraft carrier in history. I suppose it could be argued that the Yorktown never sank because legends never die.

Ironically it's exactly what the Kriegsmarine used to do - and they also did it because they had a numerical disadvantage so had to lever tactical advantages in other ways. Same problem, same thinking. I begin to come around to the idea that armed forces often perform best when they are seriously challenged, as opposed to when they have lots of advantages to begin with. They often rise to the challenge and think more cleverly.

I wanna say that the carrier _Enterprise_ survived at least one later battle because she entered cloud cover at just the right moment to avoid getting spotted. The "Big E" went on to be one of the most decorated ships of the war.

@phillyslasher The Americans could afford to be "flexible" because they got clear upper hand to the Japanese through intelligence and pure luck. If you watch the video from the Japanese side again, there was really no option to them. Meanwhile the American fleet was completely hidden from the enemy, so their commanders and pilots could pull all the gut instincts and deviations from doctrine they wanted without worrying too much about consequences.

Ain't even gonna try to hide, almost choked on my own saliva because I laughed too hard. You're freaking hilarious.

@phillyslasher First, you say the Japaneses were restrictive and didn't change their course as if there had been any option for them. They were led into an ambush and kept on their feet the whole time the only thing they could do was dodging. Had it been Fletcher or any other American commander, they would have made the same choices (if there had actually been any choice) and the outcome would have been the same. Second, as I said, the Americans were on the safe side. Thanks to intelligence and also luck, they knew where the Japaneses were while stayed hidden the whole time. That's why their pilots could afford to take chance flying off course. Even if those deviations hadn't worked out for them, they wouldn't have lost anything. The Japaneses didn't have that luxury. Third, what exactly did the Americans "adapt to" anyway? They set up an ambush, and everything went perfectly according to their plan. The few times they messed up the coordination was because of incompetence, not because of genius hindsight. By pure luck that incompetence ended up working well for them. It was as much "flexibility" as saying you got a 6 rolling a dice because you're a genius at math. And yes, I am saying that had it been not for that luck, the outcome of the battle could have been very different. We see how incompetent and uncoordinated the Americans were. Had the last 2 dive bomber groups not converged on the Japaneses with such impeccable timing and saturated their defense, they could have got off with at least 2 carriers untouched given the skill of the American pilots. By then who know what could have happened. The Japaneses could have pulled at least a draw.

@@Secret_Moon The video doesn't note this, but actually the "unintended" consequence of the uncoordinated piecemeal attacks keeping the Japanese off balance was likely entirely intended by Spruance. So while intel/luck were hugely important I can't agree with you. Japanese carrier doctrine left them especially vulnerable and it makes no sense to say that the Americans would have done the exact same thing when they in fact made it a point not to.

@@kaineternal Lol, I knew someone was gonna claim the American piecemeal attacks was intentional. Ok, let's just put aside the implication that the American commanders deliberately threw their pilots at the Japaneses squadron by squadron to be shot down one by one by the outnumbering Zero, just think about it for a moment, what did that accomplish exactly compared to a massive coordinated wave of attack? The first wave from the American carriers that reached the Japanese was the VT-6 with only 14 Devastators. Imagine if this wave had been a hundred planes. There would have been no need for the "genius piecemeal strategy" to hinder the Japaneses as the Americans could have swamped, saturated the Japanese defense and ended them right then and there, with minimal loss. So no, do not think of the American piecemeal attacks as a genuis strategy that defied conventional doctrine. Think of it as a big blunder that ended up costing a lot of American pilot lives that luckily somehow STILL worked out for them, despite with much heavier cost. And if you claim the Americans would have done differently had they been in Japanese shoes, then what exactly would they have done differently? Amphibious landing on Midway with the carriers, and towing the ships inland to hide?

had never lost my way Jack P, just needed some time. thanks for your patience!

Uncle Iroh masking as Jack P 😭

He was MIA, Captured behind Enemy lines in japan

Not sure if you're talking to Montemayor or the Task Force 16's dive bomber groups.

Don't lose your wayyyyyyyyyy

If you are really interested, get a copy of "Shattered Sword" Parshall & Tully, it will knock your socks off.

If you are interested by the view from the other angle, try Hiroshima: Out of the Ashes (1990)

it is an odd thing to feel empathy for the japanese after pearl harbor and thinking that they were planning on expanding their empire as far as they could as seeing the map of their successful expansion. i too during the video when hearing/seeing the numbers after their carriers went down, did NOT jump up and down with joy but was just thankful after the several failed mini-campaigns of the US during midway, a major victory strike was finally pulled off. i did wonder why there was no commentary about rescue boats/life rafts for the japanese figuring there was no way that everyone on those carriers died even from the extensive damage taken. - i can't imagine that pain one would feel thinking of not being able to return from such a beating in the midst of a much larger war to one's family, fellow soldiers and one's own country. i was aware of the suicide code of "honor" but didn't realize it could/would be applied on a large scale, not that i'm saying all survivors did. i too watched all 3 parts sequentially with NO intention of watching all of the first one at 40 +/- minutes. it went by FAST and could've even watched more to my surprise.

I don't think its right to feel equally about the death and suffering of your enemy as that of your countrymen.

@@lifediversified8932 Japanese expansion was limited to China and Vietnam (the latter only in order to cut off re-supply routes to the Chinese) until the United States threatened to cut oil. Contrary to popular belief, we didn't particularly care about the Chinese, but were more alarmed about Japan invading Vietnam, a European colony, in order to cut off Chinese resupply, since it challenged European control in the region. The Japanese invaded American, British and Dutch colonial possessions in the Pacific in order to take their natural resources to off-set the oil cut by the United States. Japan was unwilling to pull out of China after 4 years of brutal war, and the United States was unwilling to entertain the notion of Japan challenging European control in Asia. Not only that, but were Japan to concede to the United States' demands, it would essentially be on a leash going into the future, since the United States could use oil to control Japan's decision making. It's also not unlike the United States is a stranger to expansion; continentally we started out with less than half of what we have today before our wars against Mexico, Britain (how we took a portion of Florida) and the various Western tribes, not to mention our overseas acquistions in the Spanish-American, Philippine-American and Samoan Wars. The first half of my post also isn't to suggest the Japanese were 'liberating' Asia from European 'oppressors'; the Japanese of course were expanding into China and Vietnam for the same reasons the United States expanded into Mexico and the Caribbean. Ultimately I don't think either *government* had moral superiority over the other (as much as people like to split hairs about the severity of war crimes), and ultimately the *citizens* of both nations were the victims of their government's expansion and failures to negotiate, and their deaths warrant equal sympathy.

hindsight is always 20/20

Watch 1980's The Final Countdown. Tomcats though, but still...

If the US had A-10’s back then, those ships would’ve never stood a chance lol

agreed

@@dmeads5663 Who needs explosives when you have Depleted Uranium rounds?

In an incomplete information game, that can often lead to victory.

That sounds British. Straight outta Blackadder

just mash the buttons.

@@SukacitaYeremia Unfortunately I don't know the origin of the quote.

Arashmickey the Germans often complained that nothing the Americans did made sense as well. Bombard here but attack there. Wait out good weather and attack in rain.

I bet even he knew fighting the USA was suicide

Where was that other quote that stated that American Soldiers do not follow doctrine?

@Thx I hate it germans weren't especially "disciplined". They just had more troops that had experience fighting in 40 and 41. The soviets swallowed those whole.

@@ussenterprise3156 Not sure if I recall the specific thing you are talking about, but a soviet was quoted as stating this "A serious problem in planning against American doctrine is that the Americans do not read their manuals, nor do they feel any obligation to follow their doctrine.”

@@guuiness That was what I was looking for

“ONE OF THESE BULLETS HAS YOUR NAME ON IT, AND IM GOING TO KEEP FIRING UNTIL I FIND OUT WHICH ONE IT IS!”

SUPAH DEADLY ACTION!!!

Admirals: let's do this (make smart decision) Pilots: let's do THIs (make a smart decision, but a completely different one) Admirals and Pilots: wait how is this WORKING????

Лорд коммандер херни не скажет.

America: *RANDOM BULLSHIT GO*

Absolutely!

Maybe I was wrong, but it SEEMS like two !

Better late than never. I was waiting for a new video.

I live on another continent, another era, in Poland, a country having its own share of WW2 history - and yet for decades I have been admiring the bravery and heroic sacrifice of VT8 and its flight leader John Waldron. 80 years on and I remember them.

Yeah, we see, plainly, when our aviators are flying in obsolete or inferior aircraft. Note that, even when we are on offense, our airmen were lucky to last more than a very few missions. War is hell - for everyone, whether your a Marine wading ashore on Okinawa under unrelenting machine gun fire or manning a gun in the belly of a bomber, or ....

@David Gauntt I think you may have it backwards. The Doolittle raid was of little tactical value, as it did negligble damage. But it did have strategic value. It was a huge morale boost to Americans. In addition, it shattered the Japanese leaders claim of invincibility, and forced large amount of resources to be devoted to the defense of their large empire. And finally,, it gave them great motivation to destroy the American carriers as they were a grave threat to Japanese. In short, the raid pushed the Japanese into a risky fight near Midway, exposing their fleet to Midway aircraft and ultimately falling for the American trap.

The reasoning for selecting Midway as a target is that the capture of Midway allows the Kido Butai to be positioned closer to Hawaii and the Aleutian Islands, as it can leverage the land-based airpower for support and recon. That would enable Japan to make much more effective strikes on the headquarters of the US Pacific Fleet and the American forces trying to repel the Japanese push on the Aleutians. It was the kind of operational objective the USN couldn't let the Japanese hold onto. Even if the USN didn't react fast enough to stop the invasion force from reaching Midway, the Japanese knew the Americans would feel forced to try to neutralize the Kido Butai in order to nullify the positional advantage Midway gives them. The American Carriers were always the real target.

Lol

Hahaha dude that's funny as hell

This quote is so underrated. 😂

nice

I like the plan Jim. Let's do it. ready the men and distribute the whiskey

yodef 682: Well done, Secret Agent 682. Apparently, the line comes from that well known movie, "The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp", made in 1943.

Had me in the first half not gonna lie.

Yes !!!!! Finally ! Nuff said

Year 2020: "Yeah, might want to wait on that..."

in fact better then endgame

@@ussenterprise3156 LOL. Yeah, Endgame had its moments (the PUNCH shall forever be enshrined as a Moment of Great Movie Justice) and I did enjoy it, but overall it was a disappointment. This video on the other is fully of the same high quality as Montemayor's previous two on this subject :)

and it almost survived midway too. yorktown was truly a beast

And I believe that most of her crew was off the Yorktown at the point she got the fatal blow and sunk

sank during her greatest hours, if only she could have made it home. It's a shame not one Yorktown made it to today, with Yorktown and Hornet in better condition than Enterprise is.

At least she had the honor of sinking in battle and not get scraped after the war just wished she hadn't lost any crew RIP

Raymond Hernandez yeah she would’ve been scraped or nuked like Saratoga

Well he kept his words.

Well seems like your 6 month trial is up.....

@@full-timepog6844 nice one

Though he was the one who proposed, designed and led PH attack! Having studied Harvard taught him nothing about Americans mindset.

@@TheFrederic888 I think he understood well. He told them that the Americans were acting like pacifists because there had not been attacked. He stated that when Americans are attacked, they become the most bloodthirsty, ruthless killing machines in the world. Unfortunately his superiors didn’t believe him. They saw Americans as fat and lazy. We saw them as small and weak. We were both terribly wrong.

Classic American military strategy.

@@oKirin- Throw things at walls and see what sticks? And if all else fails, throw bigger things? 😉

@@oKirin- Works for everything but a land war in Asia.

@@illuminati.official The US has never truly fought an all out land war in Asia. Korea was a borderline policing action and Vietnam wasn't all out war. Way too many doctrines that they had to follow. Basically fighting with one arm behind your back.

This reminds me of that probably apocryphal, though definitely accurate, assessment by Soviet military strategists: "A serious problem in planning against American doctrine is that the Americans do not read their manuals, nor do they feel any obligation to follow their doctrine."

haha thanks Maverick Loggins!

Thank *you* man! I love your videos I can’t wait to see what else you make. Maybe Guadalcanal? lol fr tho just happy to see from you again

@@MontemayorChannel no, for a lot of us even if we don't know each other. You are a legend. We truly respect that objectivity and the amazing job you do for us. KZfaq, Netflix, etc. should give a show/create content for them and use your potential.

@@MontemayorChannel Thank you for making this. It is by far the most detailed video series on this naval battle. It would be great if you did one on the Indian Ocean Raid of 1942 since it gets nowhere near the attention it deserves as one of Britain's most humiliating naval defeats ever.

@@MontemayorChannel Could you do the other carrier battles like Phillipine Sea and Santa Cruz, please? I'll wait.

haha thanks Zernautscher. that would be cruel to plug in a sponsor segment right before the climatic moment.

Actually, I got an ad perfectly after he said that, haha.

@@MontemayorChannel Please, please, please do go another year without posting. Amazing work!

@@MontemayorChannel I actually got AD on that exact moment hahah, but good work

Murphy’s Laws of Combat 19: Unless you are Germans. Then you are just owning.

*cough* Russia *cough*

Or unless you're bombing Pearl Harbor.

I prefer the Maxim 47 version: "Don't expect the enemy to cooperate in the creation of your dream engagement." And, supplementing that, Maxim 22: "If you can see the whites of their eyes, somebody's done something wrong."

The Japanese also forgot about the Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #53: Never trust anybody taller than you.

The amount of luck these mad men had during the battle was something else

Yes we will attack Midway. Doesn't matter that the US aircraft carriers we wanted to sink at Pearl Harbor were not there. Forget about them...they won't be near Midway.

@@DylanJo123 There's no such thing as luck.

@@RivetGardener Technically Japanese idea was that they would seize Midway relatively quickly and then force the Americans to fight a battle on their terms. That said, the only other time the Japanese had made a landing where they were directly opposed was at Wake Island. And even after said island (with a much lower degree of fortification than Midway) had been smashed by the Kidou Butai, they still put up a hell of a fight. Had they attempted a landing at Midway, it probably would've gotten rather nasty.

​@@jedimasterdraco6950 I don’t think their plan actually involved landing troops on Midway. The Japanese knew the US fleet would only take a few days to sail there from Hawaii and they would never be able to occupy the island by then. Like they weren’t stupid. Their real target was the US carrier fleet. Attacking the island was just the bait to draw them out.

He is my original poster I subscribed to. I've added a total of 4 in the few years since.

"No plan survives the first enemy contact" - Helmuth von Moltke

wars are mostly battles of numbers -- of people and industrial production. by the end of the war, the us had something like a hundred carriers and a thousands other warships. that's a production of a bit more than 2 carriers per month.

@@tristankreller5830 In this case, the US's plan actually died before first contact, but sheer luck pulled a victory out of thin air.

@@NaumRusomarov They are often heavily controlled by them, but there is plenty of David vs Goliath examples in history. In the case of WW2, it was an ant trying to take on a tank. American industrial power was insane, even if the Americans fucked up every military operation they did, they may as well of had infinite resources compared to any other nation in WW2. There's a statistic somewhere that shows that America had over 50% the entire worlds industrial capacity.

ah, that's great man. I'm glad i was able to bring some clarity to this confusing battle.

I actually have been to the US WW2 museum since part 1 came out, and was explaining several parts of the battle to my friends I was with. Great feeling!

personally I just wish they got the right order of the U..S. torpedo plane attacks and had included Yorktown's Torpedo planes. Though I understand for the sake of time and money why they didn't include or any of the U.S fighter pilots contributions, probably cheaper to only show anti-aircraft fire taking shooting down the planes instead of the zeros.

I know right!! I was surprised how much I loved Midway. I think it was because of part one of this series. As much as I loved Midway however, this series knocked it out of the park, and I will watch it many times over the years!

@@MontemayorChannel It was a superb job of historical writing and filming. Thank you....

Hypersonic missiles are the same (cheap to build and devastating).

@@gincatgoogle6213 I wouldn't call them cheap, but when compared to ships, then yes, considered cheap

I saw the timeline of the ending of the 1st video and was like "Wait Midway was decided in 4 freaking minutes?"

That is the criticism of modern aircraft carriers. They are so expensive in and of themselves. Add in the air wings and personnel and they are too valuable to risk in real battle. The loss of even one would be devastating.

Tbf those "cheap carrier planes" had to come from big expensive carriers themselves. If you think of the planes as weapons of the carriers (which they are) the ratio of build vs. destruction resources is way less lopsided

He was a true hero

Balls of steel

the japanese air cover was drew away by Yorktown torpedo squadron, but nevertheless a true hero

@@Fieramosca492 Yes, but his attack stopped the Japanese from launching a counterattack since you normally don't spot and launch aircraft during an attack both due to the risk and needing the flight deck for reequipping the fighter cover.

I do like that one b26 bomber pilot, he knew his plane was going down and as a final measure of retaliation he tried to do suicide crash course toward the carrier. True hero

It was amazing that his plane carried him to the IJN CV group because his balls were so huge they should've made it impossible for his plane to take off from the Hornet.

@@ML0694 Same. :)

Spent my New Year’s Day evening on these videos

Me - watching over & over and doing some more learning - further study and analysis

They badly want to use their battleships on a decisive battle

Japanese naval command basically screwed themselves when they put Nagumo in charge

Yamamoto: "Holy Bomb holes batman! I think they got us once or twice!

I know this is a joke but Nimitz refused to give them their Battle of Tsushima because he withdrew early when the main surface force gave chase. This was smart on the part of the Americans. They basically engaged in hit-and-run tactics with the Japanese, only engaging when they were confident of winning. Once the US industrial capacity was dialled up to 11 and they were spitting out carriers, battleships, destroyers and other naval assets every week did they go on the offensive and gladly give the IJN the "Kantai Kessen" they were so keen for. In fact they gave them their Kantai Kessen on several occasions.

@@mlc4495 we shall compare the Nation's Industrial Output on a scale of 1-10 USSR: 9 to 10 average UK: 7 to 8 All the time Germany: 7 to 8, maybe 9 in some cases Japan: 7 at most, averaging 6 Italy: 3 to 4, 5 if they're lucky France: 6 to 7 if they got the chance USA: 20, somehow, on a scale of 1-10

Ditto mah dude

I totally agree!

Watch the rest of his videos - they are exceptional!

I mean, it was such a monumental defeat. It surely would've crushed fighting spirit

Yeah, it's downright horrifying. Most of the survivors would end up being sent off to die in distant islands without even getting a chance to see their families or write to them.

Good call, the war might've been over in 6 months had word of this morally devastating loss reached the masses

Damn, that's awful. I can't imagine what was like for those men to know they weren't going to be honored despite their sacrifice.

@@jrodriguez1374 Almost as severe as the loss of the naval code, since Japanese wartime propaganda hinged on westerners being incapable of understanding Japanese.

​@Marc Singleton I saw the Surround in the theater. By then I already knew the history and was annoyed by all the newsreel footage showing the wrong aircraft - plus the turgid family drama involving Chuck Heston, his son, and his Japanese American fiancee was crap. But the opening sequence with the Doolittle Raid lifting off in Sensurround was fantastic.

@Robert Mardis I was 15 that summer, took the bus to Westwood to see it in Sensorround. 40+ years later the story still fascinates.

Here, here . . . very well said Robert. I was 20 in 1976 so I already had a bit more tolerance for organizational dysfunction, but seeing this all so well laid out by Montemayor I'm also seeing the madness had rhythm.

@Marc Singleton Yeah, I was 12 when I saw Midway with Chuck Heston and knew the battle, knew the aircraft - remember leaving with my brother and we were telling each other Tora Tora Tora was better, all the newsreel footage was wrong, and Midway sucked.

@@jkorshak Haha, saw all that too, and still went three times, but only the first with Sensorround

A half dozen of the American aircrew were captured by the Japanese and executed.

@@allangibson8494 Yea, makes it hard to be empathetic towards most Imperial Japanese soldiers :/ I mean, no doubt Americans did messed up things, but even Germans wanted to be their prisoners since they were fed well. Bruh, Japanese executed to save rice.

Knights of Bushido. Read it.

@@alank4558 Them Japanese on the ship didn't. They are equally to blame as every single American is to blame for the geonicide of the Native Americans. Its literally just disrespectful to imply that every Japanese soldier were to blame.

@@KeiwaM You’ve obviously never heard the story of Louie Zamperini

Watch the movie midway, its about Lt. Best

I watched it back in december, good movie

Lt Kleiss also hit 2cvs but best did well and sank a carrier alone

Dusty Kleiss scored hits on two carriers that day - Kaga and Hiryu - while also landing a bomb on a cruiser on the last day of battle so he was 3 for 3. Nevertheless, it was Dick Best whose sole hit on Akagi doomed that carrier. Sadly, Best would never fly again after June 4th. His lungs were harmed by caustic soda in his oxygen system which triggered latent tuberculosis.

You edited the comment for typos and STILL haven't noticed "carries"???

I would LOVE a Montemayor Leyte Gulf series. Probably quite a lot of work and many parts, but it'd be so good.

I think he’s doing Guadalcanal next.

@@fakecubed hahaha American battleships go boom boom on the out-ranged Japanese battleships.

Hyde If he does the whole Pacific Theater of WW2 I would not mind at all.

I second this. That battle was quite the flustercuck, The USS Johnston will need its own episode.

And with 27 in 1945. - lol - To go along with 18 battleships. And that's exactly why Montemayor's conclusion is correct. Midway changed the course of the war, but not its ultimate outcome. Of course, it really ended up being just 2 bombs - with the promise of more where they came from - that ultimately ended the war.

@@vbscript2 and add to that total the escort carriers ; you have about 100 yes Hundred aircraft carrying ships in the fleet!

@@vbscript2 Even those two bombs were indicative of American industrial power. Project Manhattan was successful (compared to other wartime nuclear programs) partially because the Americans had enough leftover resource and capability for a _side project_ , amidst fighting a war in two major theatres and providing vast amount of supplies to allies there.

Uncle Sam is a Might man

@@Mattoropael just look at the victory ships. Enormous ships, built in huge numbers in astonishing time. Only America has that capability, and once it was woken, it was only a matter of time.

Adm. Fletcher is probably one of, if not the most underrated Carrier commander in history (and probably more maligned that he deserved). It's a shame that his career is somewhat tied to the sinking of two US carriers in quick succession under his watch (as well as his "abandoning" of the Guadalcanal landing forces). But then again, those battles were basically the two major battles wherein the US Fleet was the underdog, so it still speaks to his brilliance.

Joshua Unsay agreed. But even the “abandoning” bit was apparently mostly spun by Turner as the carriers were never supposed to stay longer. “Black Shoe Carrier Admiral” by Lundstrom clears Fletchers name by and large... ...although it’s also depressing reading about other admirals ripping apart his reputation.

@@thegoodcaptain1217 I wholeheartedly agree that the "abandoning" spin is undeserved. It also didn't help that Adm. King became sour on him after Corral Sea and Midway (Adm. King loved the Lexington, and for him it was unforgivable for Adm. Fletcher to have had her scuttled).

I'm pretty sure it went more like: "We estimate 3 months to get USS Yorktown fully repaired." "You have 72 hours."

@@adamtruong1759 Pissed off workers and im assuming qaudruple overtime are a hell of a drug.

@@hunterjordan5683 probably got compensated with a long rest and double pay for 72 hours, then 1,400 dry dock workers repairing the ship

A lot of the engineers were still on the ship. It’s the biggest reason they got it operational again after the first attack.

They must have borrowed Scotty from the Enterprise.

"When in trouble or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout" :)

Also that Jimmy Thach implemented the very first combat iteration of the famous Thach Weave, which allowed the inferior Wildcats to successfully engage the far superior Zeros.

@@Don113 Everyone remembers Jimmy Thatch and his “Thatch-weave” maneuver.

@@Don113 Jimmy Thach and the Thach Weave was referenced in the first video (1/3) in this series.

@@Talrich77 Jeez, it's been a while since I watched it then. That, or my memory is turning to dogshit.

Yeah we watched the movie too.

to use a probably overused meme, IJN: we have the element of surprise USN: no u

And fear. Surprise and fear!

@@thomas.02 USN intelligence was their Reverse card

Arguably the best thing to have, devastating to morale.

Which one? Montemayor finishing the series or the actual battle?

What? I never expected you to be here, anyways, love your videos.

@@Chapelrone Hey, good to see you, yes, huge fan of this young man's work. He is absolutely amazing in his attention to detail and fact checking.

@@TirarADeguello i was just watching a video of yours!

Yes. High level Heavy and Medium Bombers =0; Torpedo Bombers =0; Dive Bombers from Midway =0; Latrine Hygiene 2nd. clarss Mitscher in Hornet =0; and the rest did it. They all did their best with what they had - RIP

50% was optimistic. The weapons group had NEVER tested the torpedoes under realistic conditions, so they didn't really know what the performance would be.

bravest people during WW2 were devastator pilots.

to be fair, the american had a tactical improvisation during the battle. but they choose the strategic situation months before. They choose how and when to fight the japanese. In war tactics should be like that, tactical improvisation in the moment but strategic planning

Americans: We sorta planned for this. I'll be honest, we're kinda lucky, but we have a knack for getting lucky.

There’s an apocryphal (so likely false) quote from a German general that said during his postwar debriefing that “The reason the American Army does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the American Army practices it on a daily basis.” Same for a supposed Soviet observation is claimed to have said that “A serious problem in planning against American doctrine is that the Americans do not read their manuals, nor do they feel any obligation to follow their doctrine.”

@@SleepNeed a country full of mavericks

Wolverines!

when emperor yamato was still alive

which Emperor do you mean?

@@henniquint6833 i think it's hirohito in this context

A History Fanatic Hirohito lived long after the war, look Wikipedia.

wait Emperor Akihito hasnt died yet