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For those who want to know more there is a book called The Victory With No Name that details the events leading, during, and after this event. This indigenous victory set a marker for several US military habits involving using native scouts and guerilla tactics; mainly ambush formations (L shape) and sign language. Also Little Turtle was considered a respectful ally after this event and was buried under military colors similar to a US Army General.

I have visited the battlefield site in what is now Fort Recovery in western Ohio. There is an impressive monolith with a statue of a soldier. Under the monolith is the final resting place of hundreds of the dead, whose bones were gathered the following year and buried. The Wabash River was rerouted by the Army Corps of Engineers in the 1800’s to build the Ohio/ Erie Canal. Today the river is a shallow stream that is dry.

Being Welsh with Irish decent I've always had much love and respect for the Native American. We Welsh have lived under a occupying force in one form or another since the Roman Empire turned up..🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇮🇪❤️⚒️⚒️⚒️

Could you please do a video on the Seminole wars ?, they are the only “Unconquered” indigenous nation, who successfully resisted relocation, it would make an awesome video !

I am from Brazil and have some indiginous blood, feel so proud for all native american nations, and i found their history fascinanting, something about learning about it, just speaks to my soul. Preach for my native american brothers and sisters ❤

There used to be an outdoor drama called "Blue Jacket" that was performed in SW Ohio. It sadly shut down several years ago, but depicted a lot of this campaign, including the Battle of the Wabash. At the time, they liked to claim that it was the only outdoor drama that featured flaming arrows.

I'm in my 60's, born and still live in Fort Wayne. Went to school with and best friends with Little Turtles descendants. They're still here. The oldest treaty house east of the Mississippi is about a mile from my house. So much history here.

No wonder this isn't talked about. Human history is bloody beyond belief. There were no good ole days.

Fun facts: 1. Most of the volunteers had never even fired a musket before the battle commenced. 2. The suppliers cheated St Clair, providing thin tents, thin uniforms, and shoes so shoddy they fell apart on the march. They were freezing and starving before the battle started.

I am a Miami Indian and remember being often told of this historical Native victory by my tribal elders. Chief Little Turtle is one of my distant ancestors and my 3rd great grandfather, Chief John Bull Mongosa was the last war chief of the Miami Indians in Indiana.

My 5th great uncle was Captain Richard " Shawtunte" Sparks, an adoptee of Tecumseh's father. Repatriated with the whites after Pukshinwah's death at the battle of point pleasant in Lord Dunsmores war, he scouted with Chief Piamingo of the Choctaw and William and George Colbert, half Scots, half Choctaw and warned St Clair of the impending doom, but he ignored them. So, gives the choice of dying with St Claire, or going back out to scout, they unanimously chose to go back out scouting. St Claire was a blundering fool. They made it safely to Fort Franklin, modern day Cincinnati area

In memory of those brave indigenous warriors! 💪

Thanks for making this. Too few know about this battle

I would love to hear more about this Miami tribe.

Tribes,Clans or Castes when Indigenous band together they are a Strong Native Nation

Fascinating. Thank you for narrating and posting this.

Brings a whole new meaning to “The Wabash Cannonball”

I teach US Army Military History for the Boston University Army ROTC Program. I first heard about this battle via The History Guy's video. I show that video in class, so we can discuss the History of that time. And BTW, at one time I lived in Peru, IN and saw the reenactment of the Battle of the Mississinewa (not sure of spelling). My neighbors in Peru gave me their time on the history of the Meshikinsoquah era.

Thank you for sharing this video. What America needs is knowledge of the history from many perspectives.

Great video. Keep them comming!

Thanks for making these videos

Excellent presentation. Many Thanks

So awesome hear this history being told basically taking place in my neck of the woods so long ago.

Good overview of a fascinating yet totally forgotten campaign that’s key in early American frontier history

Thank you for the video

Great content very informative and very tastefully presentation! 🇺🇸

Great history lesson thank you.

Excellent! Never heard of this before

Wow, I didn’t know this story before I watched your Video. Very good presentation, thank you for your work. PS- I’m an Aussie, and a History buff, this seems to be a “hidden” slice of history.

I love the illustrations they look so goodm

Great content

It was very interesting. Thank you for your effort. Just goes to show what happens when different small nations form a united front against invaders..

A perfect example of how a nation buries its unflattering history. I teach history in the Ohio region and have only had two students who had ever heard of this defeat.

The Americans F'd around and found out.

Wow! I was not aware of this event. In terms of number dead, percentage of casualties to total troupe strength, it really is astouding.

Glorious!

You were right, in every way.. those solemn few with a open conscious -2023

Interesting story. Where did you find the prints? I especially like those at 4:06 and 8:00.

Learned something new today about this battle and about were some of these indigenous names come from such as Delaware, Pontiac, Tecumseh, Miami and others.

I live near Chief Little Turtles historic village. There is a nice plaque on the site, right next to the trailer court. 😱

I dont have the numbers on the top of my head, but I've always thought that the Dade Massacre was one of the most decisive and one-sided native american victories.

speaking of the Great Lakes. they've found pyrimid structures in the waters. Kurimeo Ahau just did a 5 part series on them

Can someone please tell me which artist did the painting used for the thumbnail. The one depicting the battle on both sides of the river and with snow on the ground. Thanks in advance.

interesting, I had never even heard of this battle

Would make a great movie.

Good 👍😊

I live in Wabash County Indiana on the Eel river

Good

Very interesting. I am from a native American tribe also. I am mohawk and part blackfoot. Due to my lineage from my mother's great great grandmother's side of the family. ❤😮

Was Little Turtle that smart or was St. Clair that dumb?

It's nice when the good guys win.

I am curious as to why the great name of Tecumseh was not mentioned, was he a prominent figure at a later time in this resistance?

Factoid: Chief Blue Jacket was Dutch. He was out hunting with his younger brother as a teenager. A band of Shawnees intercepted them. They were going to be killed (as I remember the story). But the older boy was able to talk to them and negotiate a deal. He would go with them, if they let his young brother return home unharmed. They agreed. He became Shawnee (I don't remember his Dutch name, but it is known.) His reputation for bravery and good judgment enabled him to become a Shawnee War Chief. A War Chief is a position that is elected. It has nothing to do with governing or making tribal decisions. A War Chief was NOT a regular Chief.

A great (unknown) victory for the Natives Man !

In the thumbnail it says: "The battle is also referred as the Battle of a Thousand Slain. It's the US Army's Biggest or worst Defeat in history." Yeah, no. Just in World War II, for instance, there's Bataan/Corregidor and the Battle of Kasserine Pass, both of which were much larger defeats. The Civil War has a lot of examples of battle lost by the U.S. Army that were MUCH larger then this battle. This is just off the top of my head, there are certainly many more.

Proud of being Native American!

The biggest defeat was actually the Seminole wars.

I live in the wabash I am proud of the land that I live in

I only have 88 days left in the U.S. Army IRR.

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I feel so proud to be Native American...

What about battle of monongahela? 1000 US and English casualties against the French and their native allies.

Is this where Saint clairsville Ohio gets its name?

Even the Vikings knew in the Year 1000 in Vinland to not trade their superior iron Weapons to the native Americans...

I am direct descendent of Chief Blue Jacket. It was proven in the early 2000s thru dna that Bluejacket was not a Dutch child that was captured by the Shawnee. But was indeed a Full Blood Shawnee. Marmaduke Van Swearingen was not the true-Blue Jacket But was given the name as was custom in that time. he was not captured until in the 1770-time frame. BlueJacket or Weyapiersenwah was war chief "c. 1743-1810" and was the true BlueJacket.

Some of these sentences are taken verbatim from the Wikipedia article on this battle. 😢

Brave red Indians! 💪😎👍

You can not compare the two battles (Wabash vs. Little Big Horn). Little Big Horn was a culmination of two battles to include the Battle of Rosebud against General Crook (1,300 men) 8 days prior to the Little Big Horn (Greasy Grass). 7th CAV had a combined force of 700 men. Both US Army units had a combined force of 2,000 men. The combined force of Lakota, Cheyenne, & Arapaho was more like 20,000 according to the Lakota witnesses (I lived on the Pine Ridge in the late 1970s). Over 300 Men were killed from the 2 US Army Units. They could've easily wiped out both units, however the mission was accomplished by the extermination of the "Son of the morning star" due to his atrocities to their people.

Great victory for the Natives but in three years General Wayne shall arrive and commence the battle of Fallen Timbers.

There is a confusing bit at 3:40. The narrator speaks of “mid- to late 1870ies”. That’s a one hundred years jump from the previous subtitle. Perhaps its a typo and we are actually talking of the mid- to late 1770ies. But to refer to a “cycle of violence” here kind of foes without saying: it’s in the middle of the US War of Independence. So, what period are we referring to here exactly? Ok, listening to the rest of the narration, I assume it was an inversion typo: should be “1780ies” rather than “1870ies”.

Even a broke clock is right twice a day👍🏻

Extremely interesting, heroic in one way but absolute tragic that people couldn’t live in harmony. Also history has shown that the US military has to pick a fight to gain ‘something’.

GREAT VICTORY!!!

hate how lots of people try to paint natives as helpless uncivilised people in history when in reality they were actually really skilled and fierce fighters and even won some wars.

Yeah, historians have deliberately suppressed this crushing defeat.

Fort Washington was "in" and not "near" present day Cincinnati.

Indiana is a pretty interesting place

How many American troops were captured?

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Excuting the wounded? Seems savage too me

The Battle of a Thousand Slain. Harmer's Militia thought it would be easy to defeat the Indians, so they were drinking & boasting about the Revolution but the officers miscalculated & the militia ran. Washington was livid that he had to bring up a regular Army at a time the country could not afford it maybe for a conflict that could've been avoided. Revolutionary hero General St Clair's army of regulars & militia took their time & they also miscalculated as the elements & environment took a toll. Little Turtle of the Miami, Blue Jacket of the Shawnee & Buckongahelas of the Lenape, developed a good typical frontier ambush plan. The militia ran again but the regulars held and they all made the decision to leave the wounded & camp followers behind to their fate. This was also a typical frontier fate among all those that fought these wars unless there was some kind of agreement, truce or protocol. It was a political debacle, the first congressional inquiry was formed, clearing St Clair & Washington had to raise a permanent regular Army, the Legion.of the United States led by Gen "Mad" Anthony Wayne. He surprised the Confederacy at Fallen Timbers where they waited in ambush & fasting for battle. Little Turtle thought they should negotiate due to Gen Anthony's determination, he gave into Blue Jacket who's plan fell apart. Both sides avoided a full war and the tribes started to sue for peace. Later on Shawnee Leader Tecumseh held the Western Alliance together as War of 1812 approached. Gen Wm H Harrison surprised them at Prophetstown when Tecumseh was away & his brother Prophet led the warriors. Warriors often had to leave camp to hunt & feed the alliance. Then when winter comes, many had to leave to feed their families, so it was difficult to hold these alliances together when needed. Several Native leaders were killed or wounded at Fallen Timbers, American officers made their reputation there. If the Alliance could have held they may have secured a better negotiation but the Tribes sued for peace one by one.

I wonder why they didn't teach this in US history class when I was a kid.

This event mauled the US Army. It has to be remembered that for so much of American history before WWI and its own Civil War, the United States was quite averse to keeping a large standing army. A distrust of a standing army, even. The Continental Army was gutted after the US won its independence from Britain. The US Army was something like 2500 strong in the 1780s. So the Army losing around 1400 men at the Battle of the Wabash is a big deal. On a semi-related note to US Army strength at the time and the army losing so much of its strength due to Wabash, the French Revolutionary Wars began in 1792, only a few months after Wabash. The new French government sent diplomats to the USA to garner support. Return the favor, France helped out in the American War of Independence, right? But President George Washington wisely denied the request and prevented any measure of volunteer formations to be raised. Washington kept the US neutral. The US Army was in no shape at all to play with European politics and wars.

Every army suffers a defeat or two. Yet they are the ones writing the history.

This event lead to the formal creation of the US Army.

It wasn't just that the militia were untrained and poorly disciplined, many showed up unarmed, the states raising the men expecting the Federal Government to arm them. This was because the Militia Act of 1792 as amended and the various state militia laws had no enforcing capability. The law mandated that every militiaman own a musket or rifle yet there were no enforcement provisions so that even by 1814, 1000 Kentucky volunteers from the militia showed up in New Orleans in 1814 with no weapons. As far as native auxiliaries, the Continental Army had Mohicans and Delawares acting as scouts and in direct support during the Western campaigns against British, Loyalist and their allied natives, mostly Iroquois, Creek and Cherokee.

Basically America's version of Zulu

Red Cloud

Is this the general that President Washington got so mad at that he was throwing things at him?

It is known as the Battle of a Thousand Slain.

It stands to reason that the American army would suffer much bigger defeats at the hands of indigenous people in the late eighteenth century than they would some eighty years later in the 1870s , when by that later time , sadly , the indigenous people were all but vanquished .

Braddock's humiliating defeat ?

I Thought It was Custer Last Stand?

Isn’t US army's biggest defeat Against Taliban??? Good video btw.

Not surprisingly, I've never heard of this event. I'm British, but suspect the same applies to most Americans. Military powers always try to brush their defeats under the carpet, hence our history books shy clear of mentioning major victories by peoples such as the Maori and Ashanti. I wish all descendants of these peoples well, and hope they can live in dignity for the future.

I would have thought it was a Civil War battle since southerners born in America are natives.

Native power 👿😈 Apache

Well seam the native master firmati in fight

I wonder if the lesson here is that trained infantry don't do well against tribal fighters in the woods, mountains, swamps, or unfamiliar terrain.