Thanks Stuart. Hope you have a great visit 👍 I've just bought a model class 122 so think DMUs are growing on me!

Thanks John. The 08 could do with a paint job, but I was just excited to see it in action.

Thanks Joe, we really did have a great time!

Thanks Harry. There are loads more heritage railways than I realised, I'll have a look for that one in Rutland.

Rocks By Rail, Living Ironstone Museum Rocks By Rail, Ashwell Road, Oakham LE15 7FF hope that helps Rob

@@H_chapman17 I love that place kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oK6WZZuEkqmVcpc.html

Haha, any reason? I used to live in Olton, so I know that route.

It's definitely worth a visit. Not as big as GCR though.

It's good that kids can go for £1. Did you make it up to the actual Battlefield and visitor centre?

Thanks Tom 👍

Thanks for the tip 👍 I'll have to get a map out and plan a route.

Hi Trains Kits and Other Bits, the short answer is no formal permission was granted. The owners of the property would have every right to ask me to take this down. However, I hope that they would see that this as a positive video about their beautiful railway that encourages more visitors. Whilst the following factors don't equate to permission, I think they are worth noting. On the day of the visit I spoke with 3 volunteers/staff who were clearly aware I was filming and had every opportunity to ask me to stop or make me aware of a photography policy, but none of them had objections. One even directed me to locations where I could get better angles. Admittedly they wouldn't have been aware of my intended use of the footage, but if they had concerns they could have asked. There's no signage that I could see on the premises regarding photography and there's nothing on their website. Almost everyone visiting the railway was taking photos/videos in some form and given the world be live in I think it's generally accepted that these are posted to social media in some form, often publicly. As you'll see from searching KZfaq, there are numerous videos featuring this railway and I would be surprised if they all had permission to film. If you search for photos on Google there are plenty. I always try to be considerate whilst filming and I'm always safe. I always ask permission if I'm using a drone (no drone on this occasion). So whilst these don't equate to permission I think there is some implied permission or at least isn't anything to deny it. Originally I made these types of videos for myself as a record of the visit, but I appreciate that really they're no longer "home videos" and far more public meaning getting permissions and approvals becomes more important. It's definitely something I'll think about in future and consider seeking retrospective permission for videos already posted.

@@LittleWicketRailway yeah, now you have those 10k subs, and I'm guessing make money from this. You are a commercial operator. (Please feel free to correct me on making money on this) that means when you show up to film you do so as a business. You need to ask. Even if signage isn't there explicitly stating so. It effects your liability, the railways liability and leaves you in a legally interesting area if anything were to happen to you in the course of your visit. As in you might not be entitled to any compensation or less if you were injured etc etc because you did not let the railway know you were there on business and did not sign in or go through any induction or supervision or approval. This applies even if you only access "public" areas e.g. platforms, trains etc. Thats the legal bit you need to be aware of. The moral bit, these railways are charities. Ask, it's simple. You can say "but they get X benefit" and we can debate the merits of that all day(but lets not) however you ask before you film, they may have a very friendly attitude and say sure go ahead. They may have an attitude of sure go ahead but £10 for the kitty please(no great loss). They may have a more ridgid approach, however it is up to them, its their house, its hours upon hours of peoples largely or exclusively unpaid work that makes the place possible and the least you can do in future is ask first because it is a little disrespectful to show up and make a quid on the back of showing off that unpaid work without asking first. Again, there is a distinction between some kid with 20 youtube subs posting a video of a day out and a channel with thousands of subs posting a video they went out with the intent to shoot in order to upload with expectation of payment from that video. I'm not someone whos saying this just to annoy you, I'm saying this as someone that has put in years of volunteer work on railways in the UK when I was a younger man. I like seeing railways on youtube, glad for people like you that promote it on here but please ask first as it is polite and respectful to the volunteers. You can also get even better videos by asking, access to places others don't get into, lots more to be gained by asking than not. Don't ask and there is a risk you become someone not welcome at these places as you gain a reputation for not asking, ask and you become someone that works with these places.

@@HamStrains I can't argue with what you've said. I will make the video private and seek retrospective permission. I would just add that I don't think this is as clear cut as you think regarding commercialisation. My reasons for visiting weren't commercial, it was a day out with my family, we paid for our tickets and didn't expect special treatment. My videos do have ads, but the income from them on this video probably won't cover the admission and certainly won't cover expenses. I did contact the railway in advance about their drone policy and got no response.

@@LittleWicketRailway eh, keep it public. Just future actions could be more mindful. Individually the video may not make much, but overall earn more than a grand a year and you're liable to pay tax on this as if it was income derived from a self employed activity... commercial. I agree its an interesting new world of social media but that doesn't discount the established norms around certain activities. Same thing applies to the mainline, if there is a realistic expectation of making money from the activity you need to ask

I get what you're saying about making money = commercial and I declare all my income on my tax return. But the channel is, if viewed as a commercial enterprise after costs (equipment, software, etc.), hugely loss making and that doesnt even include costs from the day (travel, ticket, food, etc.) which I wouldn't expense because, in my mind, it's a family day out where I take some video. This is why I don't personally view these videos as commercial, it's my hobby and I enjoy highlighting the wonderful heritage railways we have in this country. But putting all that aside, your core point stands, it is courteous to ask permission first. Which railway do you volunteer with?

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