The Bell Curve: The most controversial book ever in science

The Bell Curve: The most controversial book ever in science | Richard Haier and Lex Fridman

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@schwarg Жыл бұрын

The idea that group genetics can manifest differences in physical appearance, musculature, and immune system traits yet has no bearing on psychological traits seems pretty ridiculous.

@JoseRojasA

The problem with hiding a potentially painful truth that can be misused, is that the lie can also be misused. So you end up in the worst of all places. 1. You dont address the actual problem or challenge, since you don't have the truth.and 2. You create solutions that do harm., Like eliminating advanced programs because "math is not a talent".

@vzshadow1

I was a research scientist in geology for my entire career. When a geological event occurred and any geologist in our department was interviewed about it, it was always incorrectly intertpreted by the media. They got it wrong every time!

@thx1136

"It's become fashionable to find racism in any discussion like this" actually nowadays it's become fashionable to find racism in any discussion period.

@haddenindustries2922 Жыл бұрын

There was another female researcher on an episode of "Through the wormhole with Morgan Freeman" who studied the differences with IQ and race and she came to the same conclusion. No surprise she was shunned from the academic "community". Can you imagine doing research and presenting your findings only to realize that these other "researchers" aren't researchers but political and ideological activists.

@claudrapoza

its crazy to me that some people actually think everyone has the same potential

@almasakic1148

I was amazed to learn that the term intelligence is never used in educational materials among instructors in public schools. That really says a lot about how incendiary the topic of intelligence is.

@Notrocketscience101

I'm white and have no remarkable intellectual talents and i'm not offended by that. I'm just glad someone is smart enough to make my life better.

@tomnorman9047 Жыл бұрын

Only Lex would have a 'clip' 45 mins long. Absolute legend

@bballchart8398 Жыл бұрын

These things aren’t difficult to talk about among people who are after the truth. Once other people get involved it gets difficult.

@ruseradio6732

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@Victor-oc4vm

Fascinating now let’s all go to the comments to see what all the experts have to say

@justinbailey6515

There are military entrance exams in the US, no doubt in other countries. The findings in the book have been known in government for awhile.

@autoclearanceuk7191

Inconvenient truths are often condemned by the establishment.

@tubermind

I find it interesting that Head Start presumed kids needed more mental stimulation, because we're seeing that kids aren't reading as well today from an overabundance of audio/visual stumuli. I know my childhood was different from many of my peers (though we would've scaled the same on metrics of race and socioeconomic conditions) largely because my immediate family didn't have a television (by conscious decision of my parents). As a result, we read for entertainment. We had long stretches of quiet periods (in church and at home). Peace and quiet are essential for concentration, and concentration is essential for reading and thinking snd engrossed play.

@jdg9999

Hearing the story about Jensen, what stands out is that the rage directed at him was obviously caused by the fact that people actually thought he was right, bit didn't want him to be..

@tgrecojs Жыл бұрын

Lex completely fumbled this. His guest was finishing up his answer with a really profound statement and he not only cut him off but he blew right past this and continued on towards cancel culture and what look to be his own struggles related to operating social media as a widely known figure.

@pocket83squared Жыл бұрын

The book gives me an almost visceral response. Back when it came out, it was touted just about everywhere as being fringe science. It made a big initial splash that seemed to settle out. During the years that followed, most of my reading was pretty strict; either I was reading 'hard' empiricist canon, or else classic literature. Rarely did the book come up in college discussions (and not at all out in the polite public world), so to my embarrassment, it didn't hit my radar at all until about seven or eight years ago, when I found a pristine copy for three bucks in a used book bin. I'd just assumed it was hateful garbage, but for the sake of fair expression, I wanted to hear its claims.

@cooltpmd

As a scientist, I really think everyone missed the most important point of the Whole book. I also think we are seeing it acted out in real life now. There are entire swaths of people who lack significant cognitive intelligences that are critical for logic, science, and STEM. Yet, all of these people vote, work, and breed. I think there are 2 key real variable hierarchies that are at the heart of societal unrest ... financial and intelligence/competence. And, DEI is trying to assure that the worst answer for society becomes the policy. DEI wants people who have no skillset to make and retain money to get equal money ... and they want all positions of importance that require intelligence to be equally doled out. It's the recipe for disaster, as we are promoting incompetence and punishing competence.