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The Best And Worst Stoves For Backpacking!
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Күн бұрынHere is my list of the best and worst stoves from 2022! Links below for featured gear.
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@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
What has been your favorite stove from this year?
@stevecypher9213 Жыл бұрын
Jetboil Zip. Ha ha! I love it for the same reasons you love the Windburner and it uses a lot less fuel than burner/pot combos. You mentioned cheaper setups than the Zip that work as well but didn't specify. Anything I'm seeing in $75-$85 range is gonna use a lot more fuel and not heat as quickly. I'll probably get a Windburner when my Zip dies, but it's 10 yrs old and still going strong.
@211teitake Жыл бұрын
Soto Windmaster.
@remosito Жыл бұрын
Jetboil Flash/Sumo depending on group size
@RonMTube 9 ай бұрын
Soto Windmaster
@FlowJunkie65 8 ай бұрын
MSR Windburner and Soto Amicus stove for bicycling touring. If I were backpacking, then maybe I'd prefer just using my Soto Amicus for weight saving or an alcohol stove.
@unsung4189 Жыл бұрын
I dont know Dude... the MSR is a great system but the 2 main factors for most to consider before making a purchase like this is what you left out, COST and WEIGHT. The MSR is almost 5 times heavier and 6 times more expensive. I can easily tolerate a little noise and interrupt campfire conversation for 3 min and save $140 bucks and 20 oz of weight. I do however respect and appreciate the time and effort you asserted for this demonstration, Thanks, good job !
@xr6turbo82 11 ай бұрын
everything he reckons was bad for the jetboil, this MSR does even worse
@leonpalnau6839 11 ай бұрын
@@xr6turbo82 guy clearly provides a biased review. The second product is a $60 burner with a $50 pot on it. No mention of cost, but only that it basically doesn't work, yet is better than an $88. (cheaper!) Jetboil. Wow.
@jamieb.7095 10 ай бұрын
@@xr6turbo82 LOL I was thinking the same thing.
@undefeatedgaul3201 10 ай бұрын
yeh this whole video is a joke unfortunately@@leonpalnau6839
@Quavkattack 5 ай бұрын
BRS with a toaks is the absolute cheapest and lightest. But you also get the longest burn time to boil. So if you have a spot where you can block the wind, and you let it rip while you change clothes prep food, then the time thing doesn’t matter. Multi-task. If you want BOIL RIGHT NOW, go with a bigger heavier bulkier more expensive system.
@leonpalnau6839 11 ай бұрын
Video shows an $88 jetboil system and complains that it is too expensive and then moves onto a $60 rickety little burner with a $40-$50 pot. Per the description, the $110 setup that doesnt even work is somehow better than an $88 jetboil. MSR is the winner even though it weighs as much as a brick and costs almost $200. Thanks for your clearly unbiased review /s.
@jstockwell73 20 күн бұрын
My jet oil has a piezo igniter and adjustment knob. Did they eliminate those features? I’ve had mine for like 15 years and has worked great.
@leonpalnau6839 20 күн бұрын
@@jstockwell73 His review is for the flash which is the cheapest, most basic version. I use a minimo and it also has adjustable flame and piezo. I think what got me though is that he put the flash below a burner that he demonstrates doesn't even light fully and burners without wind protection. He also says the flash is too heavy and too expensive, but then his #1 is the heaviest and most expensive option on the market. Too many self contradictions to take anything as an honest opinion.
@upnorthwithbrian5700 3 күн бұрын
Leonpalnau, I couldn’t agree more. As I watched this video it felt like it was very illogical, and or biased. Even if it was an advertisement for MSR, there wasn’t any strong reasoning to show why the Jetboil was the worst and the MSR was the best. I will do some more research to see if I can find any support for these conclusions.
@arnoldestrada8583 Жыл бұрын
I have the Jetboil MiniMo. I tried replacing it just to save on space but it's just convenient to have and cook with. I'm more about comfort and I use it all the time. For day hikes I just carry my esbit stove and titanium cup for a hot drink.
@BigDawgCAM Жыл бұрын
It’s SO convenient, easy to use, and boils water crazy fast, even working at altitude. Love mine
@wr1120 Жыл бұрын
Same here. The MiniMo is wider than the Zip and thus more practical to cook a meal when weight is not a consideration on a short trip or a stationary camp. When I'm out in the wild for days in a row I get myself an alcohol stove or a regular gas tank burner. There's a time and a place for everything.
@mattymatt6225 Жыл бұрын
One thing I liked about the Jet Boil, in that it's so discreet. I have boiled water on a bench in the middle of a shopping centre and nobody noticed.
@ryanl3106 9 ай бұрын
I know what you meant but what about going to Starbucks and asking for a cup of hot water?
@beastslayer9153 6 ай бұрын
@@ryanl3106They would call you a bum and make you leave.
@ryanl3106 6 ай бұрын
@@beastslayer9153 I tried a few times and they can give me with no hassle🤣
@GusFromDaysPast 2 ай бұрын
@beastslayer9153 , in most scenarios their assumption would be correct. 😂
@mattymatt6225 2 ай бұрын
@@ryanl3106Do Starbucks give out hot water? but very often when i make coffee or tea using a gas or wood stove especially wood, its not about the coffee its about the ritual of making it that I enjoy. Everyone I am with usually scratch their heads when i make a coffee from scratch, when they just bring out their flasks lol.
@nickyb1635 7 ай бұрын
I’ve had the same jet boil for almost 15 years and it works fine. For cooking I just throw on the stand adapter and I can put pretty much any size camping pan I want onto it. I can also adjust it down to a simmer very carefully by just cracking the fuel open. Thanks for your insight though, good vid.
@DrJohn493 Жыл бұрын
I'm liking my Jetboil Stash which I chose over the MSR Windburner.
@farmermark2067 Жыл бұрын
Soto Windmaster and a Toaks 1100ml pot with long handles and bail handle. Love both and the 1100 pot with the longer handles is really nice for a little extra capacity for water, ramen sides etc. and less chance for handles to get too hot. Actually use the combo in my house as well to heat water super fast for tea, coffee etc. Enjoy your videos, keep em coming!
@wellseasonedhiker Жыл бұрын
Pocket Rocket being loud? You're too young my friend. Try lighting up an Optimus 80 or Svea. LOL!
@georgesheffield1580 5 ай бұрын
Still have a svea ,have had to replace ( home made of money metal ) the top plate and burner cone . 35 yrs old .
@azclaimjumper Жыл бұрын
My stove/pot system consists of a Soto Windmaster & Toaks Titanium 750ml pot & 450ml pot. The stove & canister nest inside the 750ml pot which I use to boil enough water for coffee that is drunk out of the 450ml pot while I'm waiting for my Peak Refuel Meal to rehydrate in the 750ml pot. I've made Koozies out of reflectix for both pots so my coffee & meals stay hot hot right down to the last sporkful. There is so much food in Peak Refuel meals that I open the foil pouch at home, weight out two equal portions & put them in ziplok baggies. When ready to eat a meal I pour the freeze dried meal into my pot with hot water & it rehydrates in my Koozie covered pot. I don't pour boiling water into the Peak Refuel foil pouch because too much heat is lost while waiting for the meal to rehydrate. Incidentally, I use the GWorks fuel transfer valve & always begin all trips with a FULL 4oz canister. I had to smile each time I noticed a Peak Refuel foil pouch near one of the stoves throughout this video. Incidentally, Peak Refuel has become my freeze-dried meal of choice because they are so tasty, enough food for 2 meals, & so little water is required to rehydrate the meal. I confess, I do add pre-cooked bacon to most meals. Warm Regards from bone dry Reno, Nevada.
@BeedeeEx Жыл бұрын
Always appreciate your videos! Quick and to the point without needless filler. Long time viewer here. One thing I'm struggling to understand here...I don't fully get your love for the Windburner vs the Jetboil. Clearly the windburner is superior stove for performance, as you noted. I don't disagree there at all. But it weighs 4oz more, costs 2x as much, it's larger, and requires you to light it with a lighter or external source. I'm not saying it isn't a great stove, I just don't understand why the jetboild is at the bottom of your list and the windburner is at the top when you consider the prior. I recently moved from a Jetboil to the MSR pocket rocket deluxe...though I'm yet to use it in the field.
@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
thanks for the comment and supporting the channel. Sometimes I don't do an awesome job at explaining things in a short timeline. The Zip while a good stove/pot system, doesn't have a regulator, the Windburner does. A piezo ignitor is not critical for me, and neither of them have one, so that's a wash. The efficiency of the Windburner over the Zip is huge, and the extra weight is worth it for that aspect. The flame adjustment dial on the Zip is tiny, and hard to adjust with gloves on, the windburner has a bigger wire adjustment point. The Zip is as basic as it comes, and for the cost of it vs other options, even then Amicus paired with a 550ml toaks, I'd take the toaks/amicus combo over the Zip. The Windburner is more different than any of the others because of its design. Performance wise, it's just a better stove/pot system than the Zip. That's why I choose it.
@BeedeeEx Жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryExposure Thank you for the quick reply! One of the reasons I love your channel. The extra content certainly helps me understand a bit better! I was thinking about the 'Flash' and not the 'Zip' when it comes the igniter. Good call out there. Keep up the great work! I always look forward to it!
@aapottaone 3 ай бұрын
jet boil and the french press cannot be beat
@benwilkinson45 Жыл бұрын
Soto Windmaster w/the Evernew titanium .9L pot. This combo is hard to beat IMO.
@wilkinson6212 10 ай бұрын
I’ve used a pocket rocket 2 for about 8 years, with a titanium wind screen. I just custom cut the wind screen to work with my needed size. Never failed, except in very cold weather. Yes, it is very loud. I’ve recently upgraded to the deluxe. Can’t wait to try it!
@tiemen88 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for your unbiased review. (MSR sponsored)
@BackcountryExposure 25 күн бұрын
@@tiemen88 🙄🙄 not sponsored
@tiemen88 25 күн бұрын
@@BackcountryExposureOke, I believe you.
@BackcountryExposure 25 күн бұрын
@@tiemen88 it’s illegal to take payment from any brand and not disclose it. The FTC doesn’t take it lightly. And, I purchased that MSR stove with my own money.
@appalachianwanderseeker Жыл бұрын
I find it highly ironic you ding the jetboil and cost and weight and then your favorite is heavier and twice the price...
@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I don't do an awesome job at explaining things in a short timeline. The Zip while a good stove/pot system, doesn't have a regulator, the Windburner does. A piezo ignitor is not critical for me, and neither of them have one, so that's a wash. The efficiency of the Windburner over the Zip is huge, and the extra weight is worth it for that aspect. The flame adjustment dial on the Zip is tiny, and hard to adjust with gloves on, the windburner has a bigger wire adjustment point. The Zip is as basic as it comes, and for the cost of it vs other options, even then Amicus paired with a 550ml toaks, I'd take the toaks/amicus combo over the Zip. The Windburner is more different than any of the others because of its design. Performance wise, it's just a better stove/pot system than the Zip. That's why I choose it.
@ZanderKalashnikov 3 ай бұрын
For Bivy style Elk hunts the jet boil would actually be the best for freeze dried meals.
@memathews Жыл бұрын
Pocket Rocket original is my go-to. But my Whisperlite original is my winter favorite. Sometimes I'll pull out the Svea 123 knockoff on a day hike for fun, it amazes most newer hikers until they pick it up and find it weighs a ton! lol
@techguy9023 10 ай бұрын
On last spring hike my Jetboil Mighty Mo burner (their version of a Pocket rocket) wouldn’t vaporize the fuel even though I kept the canister in my sleeping bag at night. My diy Caldera cone alcohol stove saved the day. It’s not as fast but it worked. I still have a Whisperlight that really has no competition during winter. It’s some work to put in the pump and pump up the bottle but it puts out the heat no matter the weather. My old Coleman single burner is too heavy now but I used it in the past very well.
@johngould7548 Жыл бұрын
If I am concerned about weight I’ll take my Soto Windmaster (3 arm) with a Toaks titanium pot. If I want to conserve fuel I’ll take the Stash. It is large enough to boil ramen easily. If it is going to be very windy I take my MSR Windburner which is heavier but which of course works great in high winds.
@aaalllen Жыл бұрын
The Soto Windmaster is still a staple with me. Like with a wide Evernew .9L pot. I did get a Sterno Inferno w/ a FlatCatGear Cheetah plate for a Pocket Rocket Deluxe (ala DIY JetBoil Stash). That's been an interesting system. Volume was an issue once when I saw that the meal I brought wanted 19oz of water.
@neemancallender9092 Жыл бұрын
The Fire Maple remote Stove FMS-117T I have about 2 1/2 months use in the field for 2022 I cook real food like lentils It has an almost zero simmer Excellent The Snow Peak is excellent with a titanium foil windshield For years it was my go to stove
@davt8615 Жыл бұрын
Never saw the point in the jetboil zip, the Flash 2 is still the daddy of the jetboil range love mine used it at work nearly everyday for 3 years and hasnt skipped a beat!! Love the windburner aswell MSR have done well with this 1. Love my pocket rocket 2 also! Jetboil mighty mo should be on this list the regulator is sweet, its way better than the soto units by far!!
@rannxerox3970 9 ай бұрын
IDK, I like the Jetboil. I have the french press option plus the burner adapter that allows you to use any pot with it. For the most part, I am just boiling water anyway. Plus mine has the auto starter.
@sethwheeler3531 10 ай бұрын
Soto Windmaster for the win!!!
@marcmonnerat4850 26 күн бұрын
What about fuel efficiency? Nothing beats the JetBoil (except the.. Trangia). So if you want to go far away, melt snow or have to cook in your tent, the Jetboil is nice because you will carry one or two canisters less. And unless you refill your canisters, they are expensive in the long term.
@shanepeavler3582 Жыл бұрын
Still rocking the original pocket rocket since unified studies has never failed me and makes a great lightweight system to make coffee on the mountain while out hunting been my favorite for ever nearly 20 years that’s quality
@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
Dude I remember when you got that thing! That’s rad you’ve still got it!
@isawthelight 3 ай бұрын
Soto Windmaster for me.
@shawnr6117 Жыл бұрын
Haven't had a chance to use it yet but picked up a used Coleman single burner white gas stove for winter camping
@wingmanhoy3999 Жыл бұрын
Awesome great review, I really like my Stanley camp cook set and MSR Pocket Rocket, served me well for a few years now, all the very best.
@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
I only wish the Stanley pot was a little wider at the base. That thing is tippy!
@wingmanhoy3999 Жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryExposure Ok you just sold me on The Toaks, order going in now, all the very best.
@woodchip2782 Жыл бұрын
I still use my Trangia Triangle alcohol stove…. Because of the noise those rockets make!😏
@spacecoyote6646 9 ай бұрын
"The year of 2022"
@jackdkakk4801 4 ай бұрын
Prefer the jetboil over the msr. I might go for a titanium cup ~750ml and a amicus for the non alpine hikes
@chili1593 Жыл бұрын
Soto amicus works great for me. REI has had combo kits with pots that are really good deals.
@GTFBITK Ай бұрын
I bought a second one when Rei had the stove pot combo last year. What a bargain.
@chadbrow Жыл бұрын
My anxiety level went up when you were setting up the Windburner with a toddler right next to you!
@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
Ha! My wife was right there out of frame keeping a close eye on him.
@rockytopwrangler2069 Жыл бұрын
... Missed 2 of the best all around stoves out there ,,, the Pocket rocket Deluxe and the Soto Windmaster .... and at altitude and low temperatures , the MSR Whisperlite any liquid fuel version ...
@26parma Жыл бұрын
So you don't like the Zip because it can only boil water and is expensive...yet you love the MSR one that can only boil water and costs double the price? FYI, you can get a pot tray for the zip for your cooking needs, and I'd be willing to bet they both boil water in the same time and use the same fuel.
@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
I shared this same explanation on a different comment or two, so hear me out. Sometimes I don't do an awesome job at explaining things in a short timeline. The Zip while a good stove/pot system, doesn't have a regulator, the Windburner does. A piezo ignitor is not critical for me, and neither of them have one, so that's a wash. The efficiency of the Windburner over the Zip is huge, and the extra weight is worth it for that aspect. The flame adjustment dial on the Zip is tiny, and hard to adjust with gloves on, the windburner has a bigger wire adjustment point. The Zip is as basic as it comes, and for the cost of it vs other options, even then Amicus paired with a 550ml toaks, I'd take the toaks/amicus combo over the Zip. The Windburner is more different than any of the others because of its design. Performance wise, it's just a better stove/pot system than the Zip. That's why I choose it. The Zip just doesn’t check the boxes for me. The WindBurner does, it’s just a significantly better, more feature rich stove system.
@26parma Жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryExposure I use a pocket rocket 2 the most, and 2nd is the Zip. I've never wished I had a wind screen for the Zip, nor had it blow out while boiling water. And I've never wished it would boil water faster. If the MSR is faster it's gotta be nominal. 20-30 seconds max diff. for 2 cups? And saying the pocket rocket is loud is common...but distracting for conversation? That's a big stretch. Again...never once has been an issue.If anything I like it because I can hear it's working.
@ek8652 Жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryExposureI bought the Jetboil flash new for the same price as what the zip costs. $88. I think it has many more features that make it nicer than the zip. Cup capacity, piezo igniter, boil indicator, easy to grip control knob, double the btu’s, a nicer lid, and super fast boil time. Yes it’s loud but it’s for like 60 seconds to boil. I’ve never seen anything so fast.
@bihlygoat Жыл бұрын
The Soto Windmaster is better than the Amicus because of the pressure regulator. I don’t like the detachable pot supports though (one more thing to lose), so my main stove is the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe - same stove but with folding supports.
@scottbutler1561 Жыл бұрын
Interesting selection limited to canister stoves with nice feature and detail reviews. The subjective views on canister stoves in the context of boiling water may have been better supported with some consistent boil times under matching conditions. I have one canister stove, a SOTO Windmaster, that I seldom use. I primarily use small wood and alcohol stoves for backpacking in all four seasons. I did buy a SOTO ST-320 butane notebook stove this year. I'm looking forward to testing the SOTO when the weather is warmer, it's not lighter or smaller, but it is way cooler.
@markbailey15 3 ай бұрын
I really don't know why you're hating on the Zip?! It's not bulky or heavy and you CAN use it for cooking and frying if you add the pot support. BTW piezo igniters do actually break and you should always have with you some means of lighter
@ronaldrose7593 Жыл бұрын
Hello 👋 my outdoors friend, greetings from Northern California. Thank you for sharing this informative video. I've used the MSR pocket rocket for a little over three years. I've been quite pleased with it. As a back up I have an Esbit with tablets. On occasion I carry an alcohol stove. All the best to you and your family. Stay safe out there. 🤗 👋
@joemama22 Жыл бұрын
My cook set includes a 1.5 liter pot, spoon, fork, sierra cup and matches. I stopped using fancy stoves decades ago.
@High_Desert_Tanner Жыл бұрын
I just picked up a new Minimo for $86! Can't beat that!
@dengueberries 13 күн бұрын
How do we know it's [the last item] actually more efficient ? How long to boil for each? How long does a whole can of gas last?
@peterbennett4783 Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! excellent review, kind regards from Peter , Victoria, Australia
@ar110sp Жыл бұрын
my Soto windmaster works well for yeas...
@azclaimjumper Жыл бұрын
Mine too.
@Ronald8Christianson Жыл бұрын
I have to agree. The efficiency of the Windburner along with its predictable performance even in the wind lets me pack fuel with confidence. For fast and light the Amicus is great especially on shorter trips. I have a Windpro in reserve for Group and car camping plus being invertible it can handle MN winter conditions. Thanks for the report.
@user-zo8ck6kg1n 6 ай бұрын
It will be a cold day in hell when I bring a 1 lb MSR wind burner stove with me backpacking.
@BackcountryExposure 6 ай бұрын
😂
@Chris66able 5 ай бұрын
Oh , is it because you are really, very, unfit.
@johnhilton2327 Жыл бұрын
Trangia 27, cant beat it. cheap, would never break, simple and cheap, does the job in all senario's.
@andreasweber7828 Жыл бұрын
Takes years to boil a litre of water. Gets worse in stormy or freezing conditions
@techguy9023 10 ай бұрын
Works fine with denatured alcohol. Avoid the isopropyl especially the 70%. My Jetboil wouldn’t vaporize below freezing. I had a diy Caldera cone that saved the day. I had left the Trangia at home that trip but always take the cone.
@mattymatt6225 2 ай бұрын
@@techguy9023 it's all denatured, ethanal plus methanol only difference is meths has a purple dye but it's all the same. Bio is actually worse as it has less ethanal.
@evanhammond7305 Жыл бұрын
Soto windmaster with soto navigator pot set. I camp with wife and kids so the extra pot is awsome
@santamulligan676 8 ай бұрын
use the bottom of the jet boil flash with a pot stand ,can be difficult to disconnect the pot when hot.Original pocketrocket in reserve Swiss army volcano comes along as use the water storage bottle,Vaseline cotton wool for its starter
@euniceeichler5798 Жыл бұрын
Material, design, engineering and fire, packing stoves are awesome. I don't do any life or death mountaineering so any warm meals & drinks are luxury. The crazy ultralight hikers don't use [anything]. I acquired my dad's jetboil sol ti which is perfect for morning oatmeal when skiing. Liquid fuel stoves are super cool but a complete hassle. I'm using a pocket rocket deluxe kit this summer that I got on a 70% off sale in January.
@alanrichert8252 6 ай бұрын
I love my primus classic .it's a little big and doesn't fold up. But it fool proof. And has one of the largest burners on the market. It's not just good for boiling water. It will heat up a 8 inch frying pan fairly evenly not like many other stoves that will heat up a quarter size spot in the middle of the pan so hot that it burns the coating off. You can actually cook on this this. Plus it has a cross shaped pot stand they a Stanley cooking system will safely rest on. For 24 bucks. Plus any pot you want to put on it no brainier.
@kevinmclaughlin9161 10 ай бұрын
MSR GK from the early 80's, the best!
@mason._.777 10 ай бұрын
Fire maple
@kimpriessloft371 Жыл бұрын
Honestly - I think the comparison between MSR WB and JB Flash is unfair. Flash costs $110 and WB $190. I think you should compare WB with JB MicroMo or Minimo. They both have the Piezo igniter and gasregulator - and on top of that $40 cheaper than the WB! Am I right or wrong? 😜
@guitarhiker4449 Жыл бұрын
I personally started with the original pocket rocket stove. Great stove and nice seal onto the cannister. But a few years back i wanted something more compact and lightweight so i bought a BRS stove. Wow!! It does live up to the hype. For the money its a great little stove. A little small but never had any trouble with it. So i decided to upgrade again a few years ago to the pocket rocket 2 mini stove kit. I was super stoked about that stove and it fell short in my opinion. Yes the stove boils water ok but mine sprayed fuel bad everytime i screwed onto the cannister and removed. Very loud and the pot dont sit that flat on top. Also the rubber around the cook pot slides down alot and doesnt protect your hand very well from heat. Not impressed! I preferred my BRS over it go figure! The original pocket rocket was better aswell imo.. So now im moving on once more and trying to decide between the Soto windmaster and soto double stacked pot kit and the jetboil stash stove kit..? I just want quality, compact, igniter built in preferred, flat top for pot or pan cooking stability, semi fuel efficient, good in wind. Soto may win out i think?! Most stoves are good enough though. Personal prefference. Hope this helps some people. Hike on!
@markbenedict3279 Жыл бұрын
I have the windburner (MSR) I've been using it everyday for 3 years for my morning coffee to see how long before it fails ( I have another one I use for backpacking). I've tried a bunch of others and not that impressed. The next one I want to try is the MSR Reactor I've heard that it might be even better. If you get your hands on one please do a review.
@naps3386 Жыл бұрын
Wow, you should make a video showing your results. That is excellent!
@ziruk-king4466 11 ай бұрын
Pocket rocket -- to loud. 😂😂girly-- other conversation 😂😂
@UnlikelyHiker Жыл бұрын
I love my MSR Windburner. I wish it was a bit more compact. You said you plan on using it in the winter, will that be for just cooking or boiling snow for water? I’m interested in hearing how it works. I use a MSR universal for winter trips in the Adirondacks, the brutal cold tends to render canister stoves relatively useless unless it’s inverted. Even then it’s still more inefficient than liquid fuel but the weight and bulk are annoying. Let us know how it does!
@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah I'd like to see how it does in the winter. I've used a reactor in the winter a bit, so I'd like to see how the Windburner does. Melting snow and just boiling water as I don't tend to cook much these days. All about those Peak meals!
@azclaimjumper Жыл бұрын
Is your stove the MSR Whisperlite? Good choice for really cold/windy weather & for the reason you mentioned.
@UnlikelyHiker Жыл бұрын
@@azclaimjumper Yes, I have the whisper light universal. Solid stove for years of use with the added benefit of being able to burn any fuel with the correct adapters included.
@ryds1000 2 ай бұрын
Nice rewiew. have you ever tested the Primus lite +. I use it and its very nice 450 g back pacing stowe . With the 3 small pins its possible use bigger pots and to adjust the flame precisely. best regards preben from Denmark
@BackcountryExposure 2 ай бұрын
I have been using a Lite but I’ve not been very happy with it. The piezo broke after just a couple uses.
@ryds1000 2 ай бұрын
Yes the same here broken piezo.I hope the spare part piezo i ordered will last longer than the original.
@rodoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Lately I've been using the Soto Windmaster and Olicamp XTS 1 liter pot. Waiting to use the Firebox Titanium Nano when fire restrictions are lifted.
@DaveOffGrid Жыл бұрын
Great round up Devin! I've enjoyed my Soto Windmaster and Toaks Siphon Burner (alcohol stove with Caldera Cone) this year. It's hard to beat the efficiency of both systems. Looking forward to your Fire Maple testing. I'll be testing out a new alcohol system next year as well. Btw I think there's a spammer on your comments. Look below.
@stevenhorwood1300 Жыл бұрын
BushBuddy mini and toaks alcohol stove. Carry the alcohol you want for the trip length and use twigs when I want or when just relaxing and alcohol when I want a quicker boil. No fuel entirety and the mini works as a windscreen for the toaks. I have a BRS too but it is loud and I hate carrying these little fuel bottles
@mtadams2009 Жыл бұрын
Summer months I use BRS, fall I go to my Soto and come winter I use a MSR multi fuel and a big 1.3 L pot to melt snow. A canister stove in the Whites of NH in the winter is a no go. I don’t like sleeping with my fuel and white gas just kicks ass. I like having a larger diameter pot to melt snow with. I have a general dislike for heavy canister stoves like Jet Boils, useless.
@dustoff499 8 ай бұрын
JetBoil fan here. They perform well and do not take up any more space than a friends Pocket Rocket stove kit. To each their own I guess.
@BackpackingwithBuckley Жыл бұрын
I use the loud Pocket Rocket too. Thinking of switching to the BRS. Have you seen the electric stove out there? Interesting concept...
@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen those electric things but not sure how they would be out on a trip. Are you using one?
@BackpackingwithBuckley Жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryExposure no, I haven't. It's too new to spend money on but it is intriguing!
@georgesheffield1580 5 ай бұрын
Still prefer the MSR XGK , burn almost anything well .
@georgesheffield1580 5 ай бұрын
Works in any weather down to - 42 ° F.
@53nd4k Жыл бұрын
This year I acquired an MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe (PRD). I do a lot of hiking in the west, mostly in the Sierra Nevadas and wind is always a concern, but I don't want to deal with a lot of weight or bulk so I shy away from the integrated systems. Some of my hiking buddies swear by the integrated systems, but I'm not yet a convert. MSR blatantly copied the Soto Windmaster burner design and I can see why - the burner is large and effective, even in wind. Piezo is nice, but not a big issue either way for me. Yes, it is non-light at 80+ grams and yes, it makes a lot of noise. But it is easy to throttle so I can actually cook with it, not just boil water.
@hoser7706 10 ай бұрын
I cannot believe the Zip is worse than the LiteMax! The LiteMax is just a titanium version of the old Giga Power stove they made minus the smart 4-prong stand lol. My Zip is great, reliable and quick. Was cheap too. Windburners may be better but the Zip deserves better than last place. 😂😂
@TennesseeSlim Жыл бұрын
Always great reviews! 👍 I've been playing around with fire maple stoves they seem to copy other companies with little improvements. The Polaris stove by itself is my favorite so far cause of its regulator at the weight of the msr pocket rocket 2. They are also cheaper than major brands and boast a 3 year warranty.
@bihlygoat Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling FireMaple doesn’t copy other stoves, but actually makes them for other companies. Then they have to make design changes to also sell them under their own name.
@cerillium Жыл бұрын
Have you not tried the JetBoil MiniMo??? It’s the same concept as the MSR… I would love to see a video comparing the two to see which is the most efficient and easiest to carry (minimo nests up v small).
@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
Yes, I have a MiniMo and I like it. It's much better than the Zip for the fact of it having a regulator and just a more versatile stove than the Zip.
@cerillium Жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryExposure ah great 👍 I have the MiniMo but not the MSR windguardian… what are the biggest differences, if any? Would be great to do a vid comparing the two? They definitely seem comparable in specs, but which is the better of the two, is it the MSR? Or would Jetboil take the crown with the added ecosystem of pans etc? Anyway thanks for the reply, keep up the great work 👍
@sveinottoaar2543 Жыл бұрын
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@billpetersen298 Жыл бұрын
Does the windburner do a low simmer? That’s a must for home made dried foods.
@CosgroveNotts 2 ай бұрын
Jet boil flash with cooking adapter or OEX Hiero any day. Stoves are useless without wind shield
@aceace3100 10 ай бұрын
i dont know i had great results from the jetboil. i uesed it during NTC and YTC in the winter with no problems.
@sqd8r 15 күн бұрын
The jetboil, I need to justify my boogey purchase, crowd are coming for you, lol. Sad but very true what you are saying here, jetboil isn't the be-all end-all. No idea why the apologists are going on about comparable product, price and weight, he was specifically talking about the best stove he USED this yr. Not a direct comparison nor about weight or price.
@brentwinkelman1990 Жыл бұрын
Can a pan be used on the msr windburner?
@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
Yes, and I'd recommend only using the Windburner specific pan that MSR makes. It's a ceramic pan that has the attachment on the bottom to keep it stable since there is not a stand on the burner.
@JavierBonillaC 6 ай бұрын
About lightmax… can you use some rocks or snow to block the wind?
@BackcountryExposure 6 ай бұрын
Yeah you could do that.
@kelseywinter-troutwine1928 Жыл бұрын
What’s the table you’re using sir!
@kruiseorbruise 11 ай бұрын
What fuel do you use for the msr wind burner may I ask
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Good video Devin, straight to the point on each stove. Did you test the JB Stash? I'm blown away by how expensive that setup is when all you really get is a simple canister burner and a pot with a heat transfer ring.
@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’ve not used the Stash yet. It doesn’t tickle my gear strings all that much, so I haven’t spent the money to get one.
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryExposure 100% agree - There was a lot of marketing hype on that one but that's basically it. Curious about the MSR WindBurner in cold weather, below -10C or even -20C.
@georgesheffield1580 5 ай бұрын
Whats this about loud stoves ? Not revelant . Try ear plugs .
@danielparsons2859 Жыл бұрын
I've got a Pocket Rocket and it's noisy. I definitely feel embarrassed using it as it makes camping dinner conversation impossible. However it cooks well.
@PrybarCommando 5 ай бұрын
Go lightest possible with the brs. Nothing else matters- it’s not going to tip over unless you’re an idiot good. You don’t need to preserve a gram of gas. You’re not going to be cooking in a snow storm. So just go lightest
@dustincoy243 Жыл бұрын
Good gear video. Jet boil is a great, reliable stove that I used for years, but I finally traded it in for a Soto Amicus and an aluminum GSI cup. Liked the cuzzie and the plastic lid that came with it. Easy to drink hot liquids without burning your hands or lips like you do with titanium cups. Cut my stove weight in half and takes up half the space in my pack. Really like the stability of the 4 prong pot support, the super adjustable regulator and works great in windy conditions. The Jetboil is now my loaner stove.
@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’ve got a MiniMo as well that I actually like a lot. Far more versatile than the Zip. Yeah the Amicus is excellent!
@LostAgainwithJim Жыл бұрын
Are your feelings about the JetBoil limited to the Zip? It seems like a really stripped down version of the Mini Mo.
@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
Yes, I also have the MiniMo and it’s far more versatile than the Zip and I enjoy it a lot.
@victorwillhuber 8 ай бұрын
The difference on weight and space between one and the other is how many extra tanks of fuel do you need for your trip. So let me know when you make a video about it. Is not the same to take one small and light stove but 5 fuel tanks, or one big heavy jetboil but one tank, that's why its important the efficiency of the device. Then you need to make the choice for every trip, if you are travelling one night then one tank and the smallest and less heavy device is enough if you are gonna be carrying 5 tanks in a long trip try to reduce the amount of tanks taking a more efficient device like a jetboil. I want to see that, I want to see if the efficiency of a jetboil or any other like it is worth it on space and wiehgt. I want DATA I want to see how many litters of water can I boil with one or the other and based on that decide whats the best one for my trip. You have all of them just there just put them to boil water and show me that please. I will know what food am I gonna cook, how many days I'm gonna travel so how many meals I need to cook and that' show I'm gonna decide which one I need based on DATA.
@asecretturning Жыл бұрын
this is absolutely invaluable, thank you
@Swearengen1980 10 ай бұрын
3 or 4 whole minutes without conversation because the pocket rocket is too loud, the horror! I'd relish the quiet to shut someone up for a minute, only I don't find the noise that obtrusive. No experience with the Windburner, but that would be nice when you have others with you to take some of the bulk away. I'd never take something that large and bulky solo unless I knew I was going into a less than ideal environment and conditions.
@chrispeters8555 Жыл бұрын
We've tried numerous different stoves over the years and always go back to the jet boil.... Only bringing one stove for 5-6 of us its very convenient to be able to boil the water so quickly compared to the others! I'm also confused your so pro MSR and hate jet boil... sounds like someone is very biased here!
@jonsanford2515 Жыл бұрын
I have a Pocket Rocket 2. At some point in the near future, my son is going to be ready for a stove of his own. Curious if you would go for a second Pocket Rocket, or an Amicus?
@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
I'd get a second amicus before I'd get a second pocket rocket. I LOVE the amicus!
@rockytopwrangler2069 Жыл бұрын
... Pocket Rocket Deluxe .. can't go wrong for 98% seasonal use ...
@amycancel1254 Жыл бұрын
I regret purchasing the jetboil zip , I hated it ! Didn't like that stupid handle , the steam would always burn me trying to remove the cover, and that pot cover didn't sit well on it. The bottom cup could not protect me from the heat of my coffee I had to add a coffee cup to my gear horrible !Just wasn't a happy experience. I tossed it .
@jbenn4379 Жыл бұрын
Complains about the $80 Jetboil price but praises the $170 MSR windburner. Hmm.
@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
I shared this same explanation on a different comment, so hear me out. Sometimes I don't do an awesome job at explaining things in a short timeline. The Zip while a good stove/pot system, doesn't have a regulator, the Windburner does. A piezo ignitor is not critical for me, and neither of them have one, so that's a wash. The efficiency of the Windburner over the Zip is huge, and the extra weight is worth it for that aspect. The flame adjustment dial on the Zip is tiny, and hard to adjust with gloves on, the windburner has a bigger wire adjustment point. The Zip is as basic as it comes, and for the cost of it vs other options, even then Amicus paired with a 550ml toaks, I'd take the toaks/amicus combo over the Zip. The Windburner is more different than any of the others because of its design. Performance wise, it's just a better stove/pot system than the Zip. That's why I choose it. The Zip just doesn’t check the boxes for me. The WindBurner does, it’s just a significantly better, more feature rich stove system.
@jbenn4379 Жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryExposure Thank you for your response. Love the replay and a huge fan of the channel. Thanks for the clarification.
@basedbro2578 Жыл бұрын
10$ and you have the extension on the jetboil zip and can use any pot
@basedbro2578 Жыл бұрын
or skillet
@aaalllen Жыл бұрын
Just curious, but what had you going toward the WindBurner system over the Reactor? 3 season the WindBurner is lighter for sure, but you have winter needs, too.
@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
I've always looked at the Reactor as a winter/alpine stove, which is where MSR designed the Reactor to be most effective. The Windburner I feel is more applicable to 3 season use where 90% of my backpacking is taking place. Because I am not a mountaineer who spends my time in extreme alpine environments, the Reactor doesn't make sense to me. I kind of view it like, I don't need a Twin Turbo V12 engine in my truck to get to the trailhead.
@aaalllen Жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryExposure That makes sense. I picked up a Whisperlite on sale and hope to be more fuel efficient this winter. The Reactor's price just seemed steep overall.
@sdericmonty Жыл бұрын
The zip isn’t made for lightweight backpacking and car camping. Not sure how it’s the worst 🙄
@billweberx Жыл бұрын
You should provide how long each stove takes to boil a cup of water.
@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
Boil times are so conditional that I believe it’s not a metric on whether a stove is better than another. Features that enhance performance, like regulators, built in wind screens, burner size, btu output is more important than how long it takes to boil in perfect conditions.
@billweberx Жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryExposure That is the only reason I use a stove. To boil water. So, the length of time it takes is the most important parameter to me. I also care about wind shielding and weight. That's it. I'm pretty sure I'm not alone on this.
@OutdoorActionPhoto 13 күн бұрын
This MSR commercial did not make sense.
@BackcountryExposure 13 күн бұрын
If I had said the Jetboil or snow peak were the best stoves would you say the same thing?
@alekoteko3478 25 күн бұрын
Bro you got paid to say MSR stop playing.
@BackcountryExposure 25 күн бұрын
@@alekoteko3478 wasn’t paid anything from anyone. If I had said only nice things about Snow Peak or Jetboil, would you be commenting the same thing? Come on.
@L2theWcarscoffeelife Жыл бұрын
Your kidding right?? You obviously favor msr. You put a cheaper Jetboil in the mix complain about it not having and ignitor or regulator for a price but your number one stove is 169-189 Seriously?? The zip is around 90 dollars which is half the price a fair comparison would be the mini mo which has the ignitor and regulator for 165 about the same price to cheaper than that msr and nobody is backpacking with that monster its way too big. Even the minimo is a bit large so for my thru hike I have the toaks titanium and a soto windmaster but the Jetboil is way more efficient and my favorite.
@BackcountryExposure Жыл бұрын
Yikes…
@jamieb.7095 10 ай бұрын
Pretty biased review...
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