Yes, you don't get the secondary burn with the fuel piled up above the holes on the middle inner chamber so any fuel above those holes will produce smoke, which means about 3.5 inch sticks.

My "go bag" kept my family comfortable when we had those power outages in Texas in February.

So much safer. I use a pair of 6 inch knipex cobra pliers and just crush and break them. These pliers have amazing leverage at the back of the jaws.

I look at them as not one or the other. I primarily use alcohol or isobutane when backpacking on trail but use wood burning when I am off trail. Either way I like this stove by far the most for wood burners.

+T3Knical5urg3 Got it, that makes sense. Subscribed to your channel ...

The height of this design is one reason why it works so well. The updraft is enhanced, pulling more air in from the bottom.

Adam Newman please give your reasons. Thx

I've thought that too, people load them up with wood and light the top. Maybe that's the correct way?

It's meant to be lit from the top and burn down. This allows the smokeless factor. Google the Toaks stoves and get the correct information. 😊

ward4peace I'd really like to know the science behind that. Do you have a source?

Everett Vinzant: Obviously he has not, as your comment is in line with both physics and experience from well-seasoned outdoor people. Heat causes updraft, and this causes a constant supply of fresh air from below into the fire. However, (too) many guys find it difficult to do without burning themselves...and therefore for them (!) the "top burn start" is the easier way to start a fire. But that is not why a "top burn start" is "better"...it is just simpler for some.

www.drtlud.com/?resource=prt15740 Natural Draft- Top Lit Updraft Gasifiers are designed to be lit from the top.

Hear, hear! Always top light a 'gasifier' wood stove!

Gerben Van Duyl These stoves are ment to burn from the top down.

Try placing the tender/fire starter in the bottom and load the fuel wood on top. THEN lift the stove and lite it from the bottom. The 'ash pan' (this is the lower chamber of the 'fire box') is filled with holes and is perfect for putting the heat source (FLAME generated from whichever method) next to the tender. Indeed the upside down fire method is all the rage these days. Even the manufactures of these types of wood burning stoves try to entice would be buyers to buy their product by “selling” them on the idea that one may overcome basic fire building skills simply by purchasing their stove. This said, hear is simply a challenge. I dare you to try this method. I submit that it is important to understand the concept of convection and how it relates to fire building. The gentleman in this video demonstrates the idea very nicely. Keep in mind the 'PLATFORM' is built into the stove you are using. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g8dmidSortutYmg.html

+Stephen O'Brien www.aliexpress.com/item/Windproof-Plate-Height-15cm-19cm-Ultralight-Ultra-thin-Titanium-Outdoor-Camping-Stove-Wind-Shield-Screen-60cm/32465728526.html Ensure to get the 19cm version. The 15cm version is too short. I am finding more that it starves the stove so make sure to punch significantly more holes in the bottom section.

+T3Knical5urg3 Brilliant, thank you!

+The Emporium Yes it still resides in my "go pack" and is still in my opinion the best option for a wood burning stove. I will likely pick up the smaller version that fits the smaller canteen for an even lighter more portable setup.

Very much so. I usually dig that spot out a little and fill it back in afterwards.

Without a doubt I would pick the Toaks. Emberlits are just a box to contain your fire really. Toaks actually creates a more efficient fire.

Thank you ver much for your fast answer! I will follow your advice

Outdoor Exploration Thank you ver much for your fast answer! I will follow your advice 

If you're using titanium it's an easy clean. Even easier if you coat the outside of the Titanium with paint used for grills.

Keefe Borden It will vary each park.

Keefe Borden, no forest or park ranger would allow any open flame except directly on mineral soil with no flammable materials near to catch flame, spark, or coal not put "dead out" with sufficient water ready at the fire itself, an on/off stove is the usual requirement or a no fires ban. This is for USA, elsewhere likely have different laws and regulations. Here, it is a hefty fine and backcountry rangers for enforcement. The "fire bugs" are arrested. The problem of these videos showing wood fires on "forest duff" not mineral soil, and inflammable materials so nearby is that a fire can catch immediately or be in the "forest duff" and break out later on. The number of forest fires should be a "hint" because there is no lightning involved. If I seem oversensitive on this point, we have perfectly safe backpacking stoves banned with the on/off stove rule already because one fool very likely kicked over his stove in Colorado and, now, we have another forest fire just off the trail at an overnight "wild" camp as so many denizens of the KZfaq say. There isn't any backpacking stove with an automatic tip over on/off, nevertheless the new fire ban order rule persists. It won't be long, and we can have a "no fires" rule, except at established fire rings, or strictly "no fires" because KZfaq has so many videos depicting "campfires" so big tree branches could catch fire. I made photos of the steps involved of the actual way to put a gasifier wood stove fire "dead out" over at bplite.com forum on this thread www.bplite.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=4623 because so many participants were interested in the development of wood stoves for backpacking and we had just had that incident in Colorado. I like Toaks a lot, so I am commenting here.

Large version

The gel is cohglans fire gel. Cheap stuff and works great. I have noticed after long storage it will start to get crusty and is harder to work with but it still works!

Is that the Alcohol wax?

Buy yourself some Vaseline and bees wax. Melt the beeswax, remove from heat (!) , when it starts to thicken, add vaseline to it. Stirr into gel. - Alternatively... soak cotton balls in vaseline, coat soaked balls in beeswax... break open before lighting.

lol as soon as i wrote that i got to the part u said it was the large lol srry

In some situations that is fine, but using this stove I use far less fuel, the fire is contained, and the amount of soot produced is far less.

+Outdoor Exploration soot is petroleum based the ASH is good for the ground and you spent to much because you didn't think about what you need I found the wire from some guys doing a drop ceiling I cook hot dogs and other things it works much better than the stove and bend it into a grill for cooking or a spit to stick through a small animal (rabbit) bend a turning handle on it and rotate the game over the fire try the wire trust me !!!

secondary combustion

tamernator yes it will.

@@friarrodneyburnap4336 No it does not, i just checked.

Small one fits in the toaks 750, he says large fits in the 850

And I didn't even burn the forest down! Please describe a scenario where this small of a fire that is being attended to from light to the coal being cool where I start a forest fire? Any fire that could potentially bleed out of the stove would be so small my nalgene of water and a bit of tamping would be more than acceptable to deal with the fire. Even if it is knocked over and dumps the small amount of coals the same strategy would be effective because, again, I don't walk away from it.

regardless of what you and your super human powers do or dont do...ANY time there is open flame you make sure that there area is clear of things that can and will burn. You disregarding that with your super human powers only confirms that you have no clue what you are doing in the woods and your lack of considerations for others that enjoy it the way that is is. have fun

Paul Fitzpatrick only takes one ember to burn down a forest.