The Best Bajiquan vs Muay Thai Match - Amazing Kungfu Throws In The First Round

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The Best Bajiquan vs Muay Thai Match - Amazing Kungfu Throws In The First Round

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Күн бұрын

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@FightCommentary Жыл бұрын

If anyone has takedown defense or throw defense clips, please send us!

@RedFoxGrappler Жыл бұрын

Strong performance by the Baji practitioner, definitely looked like he could’ve taken it home in round 1, I think what ultimately costed him the match was that, when he saw his opponent had adapted to his techniques and was walling him out (a standard Muay Thai tactic to make use of their brutal conditioning), he got intimidated and gunshy, if he had kept up his tactical pressure and kept trying and mixing things up, his activity in the latter rounds might’ve been enough to get decision

@smakajo400 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, I thought that there were more takedown techniques with Baji, enough to trip up every round. It is what it is though.

@StimParavane 9 ай бұрын

Great assessment.

@Vespyr_ 6 ай бұрын

I think he was gassing earlier than he was comfortable with and was retaining energy. This is where age becomes a factor.

@shadowfighter6445 Жыл бұрын

Baji Guy was awesome in the first round. If this keeps up Kung Fu will make a comeback for MMA 😄.

@SONY95ish Жыл бұрын

As a Bajimen myself, this is a great fight for the Baji guy despite his loss, my only problem is that he barely used any Shoulder tackles, body checks or hip thrusts such as Kuada, Tieshenkao or Tan ma zhan, it may be because of the rules or maybe it's hard to execute it, would be interesting to use the elbow techniques since Baji elbows are much different to Muay Thai elbows.

@slicktricks88 Жыл бұрын

As a Baji practitioner, I didn’t see any Baji. I suspect some San Da guys are being labelled as Baji to prop up the whole “CMA works” dilemma that Xu Xiao Dong caused. Baji is a famous style with a reputation but most people know close to nothing about it….so just slap the label on things. Those “classic Baji throws” don’t show up anywhere in the Baji shuai jiao forms. Those are san da throws….not even well executed ones in this video. Why would a style that has very limited kicks (angled low side kick and a heel kick) have a dozen counter throws to round kicks?

@steadyeddy8170 Жыл бұрын

Amazing..... Kung Fu that works.... Ended up looking exactly like kickboxing

@gokuworld Жыл бұрын

@@steadyeddy8170yep

@fazares Жыл бұрын

@@slicktricks88 i didnt see either..period..u aint gonna get any baji or real kung fu in a sanctioned ring fight, sorry..it will look like bad kickboxing and nothing else lol

@SoultheWrath-cp4cr 11 ай бұрын

@@steadyeddy8170 Kickboxing= karate + taekwondo+ box Karate tiene orígenes en kungfu Los coreanos estudiaron las artes marciales chinas desde hace mucho, creo que incluso hay un libro, es natural que se parezcan.

@kevinlobos5519 Жыл бұрын

Solid fight for ba ji. He should have tried to adapt and change up his strategy once his oponent adapted to his throws. But other than that he did very well. Good stuff. A shame we didn't get to see some elbows due to the ruleset. Both styles are famous for their elbows.

@xxthatoneguyxx2602 Жыл бұрын

IS NOBODY GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT DOPE ASS SUPERMAN PUNCH FROM MUAY THAI GUY

@afghanrocky Жыл бұрын

This is one mad channel. I don't think I have seen a channel that brings out styles together like this.

@FightCommentary Жыл бұрын

Glad you like this! It’s my specialty to find cool stuff like this!

@afghanrocky Жыл бұрын

@@FightCommentary Yes, you are doing an honour for all of the underrated martial arts. Looking forward to it 😃. Maybe if they will allow me to record a video of me beating the snot out of heavy weights in wrestling I'll link you to it and let you commentate that lol. 😉

@chubbymoth5810 Жыл бұрын

The Baji guy got intimidated by his opponent when he landed some kicks. I think he bruised some ribs with that as the air was already out of him the second round.

@eddiephillips9741 Жыл бұрын

The Baji guy was rotating his shoulders in a circular motion after catching his leg to throw him. Once the Muay Thai guy figured it out, the Baji guy should have changed the throw to a heel trap and rotation throw. Great fight and example of Baji which you don’t get to see often, I think he did really well, especially for an older guy!

@mengmao5033 Жыл бұрын

switching to a different technique from the catch is always an option, but another would be to use the old throw that's been figured out as a misdirect. Once the throwee gets comfortable defending your initial pull/movement, you can reverse the force of your throw as the throwee is still coming through the other way. So catch and rotate through same as before, but then stop and swing the other way while trapping the support foot from behind and pushing over that fulcrum.

@iNightTiger Жыл бұрын

Sanda is not a mix of boxing, taekwondo or karate with Chinese wrestling and kicking. It is a mix of northern Chinese style, Choy li fut, Chinese wrestling and so on. The punches come from kung fu just like the kicks. The thing they took inspiration from are the training methods, not the techniques themselves. Kung Fu has basic punches and kicks. People should stop acting like kung fu doesn’t have the most basic techniques and that these are just « boxing » or « taekwondo ». My 2 cents

@toyoseries Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@jestfullgremblim8002 Жыл бұрын

True. It's just that they usually look at Kung Fu forms that are actually supposed to represent grappling or weapon techniques and think that it's just poor striking technique.

@iROChakri Жыл бұрын

Kung fu was the very first Asian martial art that was exposed to the West and funny enough if Kung fu was so efficient in the beginning, no one would mock Kung fu. Sanda, the modern Kung fu, as he said was correct, is a mix of almost everything including Muay thai and so on. It has almost little to do with traditional Kung fu.

@iNightTiger Жыл бұрын

@@iROChakri go watch mmashredded’s last video and the podcast aswell. And since you know kung fu so well tell me how it should look like ? You probably think that it should look like the movies haha You clearly don’t understand anything about kung fu or Sanda. Sanda is sports kung fu, using kung fu techniques, using MODERN training methods. The techniques are from kung fu period you should do your research before talking nonsense

@jestfullgremblim8002 Жыл бұрын

@@iROChakri I mean, the thing is that Kung Fu has lost most of it's good points (it's hardcore conditioning is almost extinct, most schools do not spar, most teachers do not know what most forms mean, the weapons parts of them are dying, many do not understand what Chi is supposed to be, etc) But the techniques of each Kung fu style are actually fine and functional. The bad thing is the way they are trained (similar to Aikido, Taekwondo and many Karate styles)

@nappyheaded Жыл бұрын

I have an old video of a Bajiquan guy sparring a muay thai guy but it doesn't compare to an actual fight between bajiquan and muay thai. Thanks for uploading this. Anyway the video is called "fear the baji."

@jestfullgremblim8002 Жыл бұрын

No martial art will continually work without sparring, that's what most Bajiquan schools are missing

@miked7074 Жыл бұрын

Love your content ! As an older practionior . for your viewers knowledge. Baji really started as military solo practice of shuai jiao.This started in the 15 th century. By General Quan and is in his manual . This was practiced a lot at the military Academy that Chang Kai Chek was in charge of .His number one man Dai Lei also taught Baji to all of Chek's body guards. Baji was made to be used against soldiers who might have armour on underneath their clothing . Hope I add a little for your viewers .

@peytonlacroix9331 Жыл бұрын

Is it because throwing would be a better option than kicking steel

@lps8966 Жыл бұрын

@@peytonlacroix9331 steel lmao, humans are fresh and bone

@peytonlacroix9331 Жыл бұрын

@@lps8966 I'm talking about armor dawg

@peytonlacroix9331 Жыл бұрын

Read the thing

@Livingtree32 9 ай бұрын

This is just plain wrong.

@johnthefrogakakrazert819 Жыл бұрын

There was a philipino hung gar guy winning some NHB matches in the nineties. Any thoughts on hung gar?

@hungsingkwoonusa650 Жыл бұрын

FILIPINO

@jestfullgremblim8002 Жыл бұрын

Like most Shaolin styles (and even traditional chinese martial arts in general), Hung Gar is mostly a weapons martial art that uses grappling (and kicking) when unarmed. Most of it's "unarmed tecniques" found in it's forms are just weapon tecniques and grappling but people never realize that. Just like with the other Kung Fu styles

@hungsingkwoonusa650 Жыл бұрын

@@jestfullgremblim8002 when HUNG GAR uses the FU JOW, what weapon are they actually using (without weapon in hand)? When Hung Gar uses Crane Beaks, what weapon was replace by the Crane Beak? When Hung Gar uses ANY EMPTY HAND techniques, WHAT WEAPONS are the replacing with hand techniques? What i know you are failing to realize is, true gung fu is INTERCHANGEABLE. YES, we can take our empty hand techniques and put weapons in our hands and be very effective with it and vice versa. the comment you made makes me doubt you are a hung gar stylist. if you were, you would know that, and it would never be an issue for you to point out.

@MrGod47 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I also practice 八極拳 Ba Ji Quan, I can tell those throwing and wrestling techniques are very very similar to Baji and Sanda styles, and his punch is also Ba Ji style. If anyone claims they can't see any CMA technique, then they're either lying or completely clueless. And that ba ji quan guy is indeed not bad, his 身法、防禦 and situation awarness are all quite good, but his attack was not aggressive enough and he relied on wrestling too much, he definitely had chance to win the match, and to be honest I don't think he lost to Muay Thai guy by techniques, I think he lost mainly for match points / scores.

@mengmao5033 Жыл бұрын

How can you tell what's baji specific in the throws vs sanda? To me, it looks all like sanshou technique I'm familiar with. I have two specific critiques of his mid round kick catch and throw: 1) he should advance his grips on the caught leg so that at least one arm is ahead of the knee, to give the throwee less buffer room to wiggle the caught leg while keeping his support leg stable. 2) he should keep rotating through more once he sticks his leg out to block the support leg. With the leg out at a distance, the throwee is able to stand in place and let the caught leg swing without being forced off his base. So to muscle the throw home, thrower needs to turn an extra 45deg or so until the support leg finally has to move into the blocking leg.

@slicktricks88 Жыл бұрын

@@mengmao5033 it’s not Baji. You are right, its sloppy san da. Baji has almost no kicks and almost no head punches. Zero round kicks in the entire system, so they aren’t going to have a dozen round kick counters. It’s maybe one of the hardest traditional systems to adapt to gloved combat sport due to the body punching (especially short range punches) being blunted by gloves. A lot of the force (jing) used requires pre compression of the opponents body, especially chained body strikes. Gloves are designed not to compress and prevent knuckle to body direct contact. Nevermind all the palm strikes. Things like shoulder bouncing are effective for distance control (especially if you are a bodyguard) but will have no damage in a ring. Seems like the flavour of the month is to rebrand San Shou as “Baji” and claim CMA works (in the ring).

@jezzaboi2168 Жыл бұрын

Always happy to see my favourite style of kungfu

@mr.q337 2 ай бұрын

The Muay guy in Blue actually pretty good. His technique is sharp.

@ThailandTerry2024 Жыл бұрын

Both informative and entertaining. Thanks for posting it …

@shannybody6229 Жыл бұрын

Bajiquan is my favorite chinese martial art

@ryanliu494 Жыл бұрын

bajiquan and other styles incorporating throws defeats the conventional muay thai every day of the week esp in mma with ground and pound

@henryposadas3309 Жыл бұрын

So that is the reason why they didnt allow knees and elbows in a clinch this match?😂

@rags6318 Жыл бұрын

@henry Posadas baji also has a bunch of elbow strikes so the muay Thai guy isn't the only one who's limited by the rules

@henryposadas3309 Жыл бұрын

Seems the Muay Thai guy isnt allowed to use knees during clinch and elbows. But great fight and definitely the Baji guy had great takedowns.

@pankard8480 Жыл бұрын

Knee n elbow😢

@rags6318 Жыл бұрын

Baji also has a lot of elbow strikes

@iROChakri Жыл бұрын

You want Kung fu dude dead? Many martial arts today learn Muay thai techniques but Muay thai fighters still use elbow strikes the best. In this video, the Kung fu dude is like 2% Kung fu and 69% Kickboxing and only 29% Wrestling. I wanna see IP man one punches and eagle claws lol

@junichiroyamashita Жыл бұрын

I am very interested on baji and the other northern styles,because they make heavy use of body strikes,an elements that nobody seems to focus on today. How come i have never seen anyone trying to incorporate those in MMA?

@FightCommentary Жыл бұрын

I think baji has not gotten the exposure in the west. Once we give it more exposure, we’ll see more of baji in standard MMA.

@junichiroyamashita Жыл бұрын

@@FightCommentary yet,it appears often in fighting games and martial arts media. It is certainly much more known than other styles. I feel quietly optimistic in saying that it would not be long before we see something. Ever seen Xin Yi Liu He Quan? I heard that one was another lethal northern style focusing heavily on body and shoulder stikes.

@arcfide Жыл бұрын

Any ruleset that gloves the hands of strikers is going to encourage more head strikes. Body strikes become more prominent in any striking competition that requires bare knuckle. Historical western boxing also was heavier with body strikes when it was bare knuckle. The shift to gloves directly led to an increase in head strike focus.

@junichiroyamashita Жыл бұрын

@@arcfide i meant strikes carried with the body,like shoulder and hip checks. Like the famous Tien Shan Kao,i know that Chen Taiji has them too

@unmessable12 Жыл бұрын

@@junichiroyamashita Those are becoming more and more prominent in MMA as time goes actually. Shoulder strikes and such have been incorporated pretty well lately in clinch fighting. I think a lot of close range kung fu techniques that you see in chen taiji and baji will come out of the woodwork as clinch fighting in MMA continues to evolve, even if they won't look exactly as they do in the form.

@rawr2u190 7 ай бұрын

Not sure about twitch muscles, but apparently reaction times go down after the age of 24: (Over the Hill at 24 by Thompson JJ, Blair MR, Henrey AJ (2014)) I was a bit disappointed that the baji guy didn't use the classic charging elbow strikes or shoulder strikes common in fighting games lol. But the muay thai guy seems to control distance too well for that kind of thing to be viable.

@juliannah8187 Жыл бұрын

Origin from muay Thai is Western Boxing and Savate , for traditional Muay Boran etc is Kalrypayatu and other Indian martial arts

@henryposadas3309 Жыл бұрын

😂

@heryantochang 5 күн бұрын

ware is powerfull Bajiquan elbow strikes?! can not use in octagon?

@EthanNoble Жыл бұрын

I'd like to see baji medium spar someone without the gloves

@tv64738 4 ай бұрын

Gotta love the little stopkick around 6:45.

@viper23x 4 ай бұрын

The way he parry that kick is so smooth asl 4:50

@YamabushiSpirit Жыл бұрын

Baji guy gassed out after 1st round, he has almost no hands after that and he starts throwing these slow, single, power punches. Muay Thai guy didn't gas, and was pretty good at keeping the pressure on and never let him recover.

@THEANPHROPY Жыл бұрын

Brother: thank you for the upload. The roundhouse kick that you refer to at 01:55 is not different to angles used in muay thai! There are many instructional videos that demonstrate this exact same kick. Also checkout roundhouse that go vertically then horizontally just before impact!!! :::)) Peace & Love!!!

@SakanLam Жыл бұрын

Seems to me the Muay Thai fighter is a professional, while the Baji fighter, while capable, is still an amateur / hobbyist. Sooner or later it will all boil down to conditioning and experience.

@catscradle1921 Жыл бұрын

On the lethwei angle, I reckon Thai boxing is far superior despite the more permissive rules of the former. Mostly this is due to how much more pervasive Thai rules are and how deep the talent pool is. When you look at the Thai in one FC, which I would offer is the current pinnacle of 1vs1 striking, and you look at the highest level guys like David Leduc in lethwei, to me there is just such a massive disparity in level. The Thai boxing and K1 style kickboxing systems you see on the world stage just seem to produce far better talent and I think if you put pro Thai fighters into lethwei rules now in 2023 they would murder the top guys there.

@funlover4207 Жыл бұрын

When I think of Bajiquan, I think of Virtua Fighter & Akira Yuki

@headlesshorseman7062 Жыл бұрын

Interesting example. But I have few questions. Baji guy seems to be limited in his techniques. Was it because such techniques are not suitable for this type of confrontation or their usage is restricted by the rules? You know, like, elbow strikes, shoulder-back strikes. Also why didn't Baji guy used Fǔ rèn jiǎo after he successfully catch the leg few times? His school doesn't teach Fǔ rèn jiǎo or I don't know something? Please, enlighten me.

@rodgerbane3825 Жыл бұрын

They need to use MMA gloves and rules for these matches, it would make it much closer to how at least Baji is meant to be used. IMO.

@dajen0265 2 ай бұрын

八極拳在哪?

@HardHardMaster 6 ай бұрын

Those throws are quite universal. How is that specifically baji?

@Chronicskillness Жыл бұрын

Definitely lots of Baji techniques and principles.

@1HistoryDragon 9 ай бұрын

Tobe honest there is Nothing Bajiquan in it.

@iROChakri Жыл бұрын

Muay thai conditioning isnt built differently from other styles at this point. Muay thai has been studied by other martial arts for a long time now, and Muay thai conditioning has been adopted into many styles today. For example, I can see that this Kung fu definitely doesnt try to do speedy slapping, one inch push, or eagle claws. Good for him. All he has to do is to condition his body more. Keep stupid Kung fu movie techniques out form his sparring and he will be a good fighter but ... does that still make him a Kung fu fighter or a normal Kickboxer today? Well, give it another hundred year and all styles will look the same. No more fancy techniques because they dont work.

@combatsportsarchive7632 Жыл бұрын

That is ironic. Those "fancy" techniques appear in MMA fights as shown in two of my recent videos. In case you wonder, the title for those videos are Kata Applications in MMA Fights.

@kaidi223 Жыл бұрын

Pretty lucky muay Thai fighter can't knee had him in trouble with a few clinch positions.

@poorkwamoi Жыл бұрын

I think the Baji guy lost due to(and these are just my humbled opinions): 1) smaller and older 2)not as good conditioned as the Muay Thai guy(but this could be due to biological and training and resting vs the actual martial art itself) 3) not able to adapt as quickly as the Muay Thai guy As far as style goes, Baji guy didn’t leap as much as the way Baji is practiced...baji is also good from striking from a longer distance as the stances are practiced to leap sideways and further. His elbows placements were great though. Protecting his liver with the right elbow and using the right to swing employing Pigua principles.. Also, Baji fists are hindered when wearing gloves as Baji fists are shaped more like a leopard fist than a closed fist so his striking may not be as effective... Overall, I also think the Muay Thai guy is a bit more athletic and actually stayed relaxed along with better conditioning... The grand master Liu Yun Chow who was the body guard to Chiang Kai Shek was also a Praying Mantis practioner and the influence is there as we see monkey steps and hooks in the Baji guy's take downs. Style to style, I don't think Baji guy lost... Person to person, age, conditioning, adaptability, talent were Baji guy's disadvantages.

@Purwapada Жыл бұрын

cool fight

@Qtip855 Жыл бұрын

I saw no TMA sorry. I saw kickboxing. I applaud your attempt to find relevance in Chinese Kung Fu though👍Please don’t get mad at me Jerry I love your channel BUT to say someone is using their “Style “ we should see DEFINITIVE techniques applied. Just my humble opinion.

@fazares Жыл бұрын

Exactly...its the usual sanda stuff...nothing more

@user-om2tl8cx1t Жыл бұрын

他的接腿摔抓得很精準.但不會運用.我看過散打的接腿摔.有對手防守時勁道方向不同.產生不同的摔法

@THEANPHROPY Жыл бұрын

They also use Wu chin chaun ti ji quan in the Imperial Court as the Emperors main & personal bodyguard!!!

@THEANPHROPY Жыл бұрын

All of these throws are classic Sandai techniques. Also: Sandai an individual & complete combat system that is found in all authentic gong fu combat systems & is not to be considered an amalgamation of other systems! Sandai is stylistically different within different combat systems: you also have Military sandai!!!

@henryposadas3309 Жыл бұрын

Actually he already made a video on Sanda history interviewing one of the original creators of Sanda. Suprisingly they incorporated boximg, Karate, Tea Kwondo and Muay Thai techniques. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hKp_nrN_37Grcps.html In another video (ill have to look for), all the Chinese fighters lost when they first met Muay Thai fighters.

@jestfullgremblim8002 Жыл бұрын

@@henryposadas3309 that would only be true with the sport that we now call Sanda. The original military Sanda which had these techniques and more was based around Kung Fu. Wushu Sanda is also just Chinese martial arts.

@jestfullgremblim8002 Жыл бұрын

@@henryposadas3309 and why do you call him "one of the original creators of Sanda"? He isn't. They did use other martial arts as reference but they had most things already. Kung Fu always had the kicks present in Muay Thai and Karate, but they still had a look at them just in case. Same thing with boxing, and as you can see, Sanda fighters do not punch in the same way that boxers do while fighting. They take reference from pther arts but have their own techniques.

@henryposadas3309 Жыл бұрын

@@jestfullgremblim8002 I saw this a long time ago so I wrote what I said and looked for the video link. Regardless my point is Sanda did borrow other techniques from other arts because they lost everytime they fought abroad. This was someone who ia more than qualified to talk about Sanda history. But yes originally much earlier military Sanda did comprise of Kungfu techniques. Am I saying kungfu techniques are useless? No. Am I saying Sanda is inferior? No. I am merely stating that other arts also contributed to modern Sanda.

@des6853 Жыл бұрын

Not sure that's an accurate description yo. Sport Sanda is totally a mix of these styles.

@ch0wned Жыл бұрын

Baji had it until they got cocky and took that axe kick to the back of the head. Lots of lessons for everybody here.

@dmytoe5679 5 ай бұрын

There are no "twitch" muscles. There are fast twitch and slow twitch muscle fibres.

@PazCristo Жыл бұрын

八極is developed by a guy who used to master in回跤， so it has the base of throwing and grippling, typical 北派武術.

@TheGreatgan Жыл бұрын

I waiting to see baji infamous elbow.. but i dont see knee or elbow, probably not allowed?

@juliannah8187 Жыл бұрын

Hema ist the origin from modern combat sport.

@horizonblack6503 6 ай бұрын

Those throws work better if you focus on leverage. I would love to see an American or Steppes wrestler learn those throws.

@segaisthebest8106 Жыл бұрын

6:56 could have been a Baji elbow attempt, he had the timing right too, but I guess elbows were not legal in this bout

@user-ct7ln4qp5p 2 ай бұрын

These guys look tough! Just saying!.

@christianvaixco196 Ай бұрын

Bro... muay thai IS WUSHUKUNGFU! Comes from Kungfu.

@brianchin9130 Жыл бұрын

the muaythai conditioning and smacking are good because tbeir system target is to smack the opponent to severe injury which generally allowed in their rule . But for most other martisl arts their rule chsnge to 'tame' mode for many decades which causing severe injury is very forbiden.Thats why even in kickboxing match those sanda origin guys are more timid in executing ko. While for the musythai guys ko is always (maybe cant say mostly ,should be all)their highest target.When they have such target of course they grnerslly more eager to train themselves for that purpoee, to bring you to hospital..It became the muaythai general training as its their tradiition way target is to bring you to hospital.

@cahallo5964 Жыл бұрын

Baji Quan is one of the fathers styles of karate no? There are some throws that I haven't seen in karate but the kicks are extremely similar and the mindset of just tossing the dude instead of trading hits is rather present in traditional karate.

@micahthecomfortablehuman1324 Жыл бұрын

Despite their similairities I don't think there's any relation to karate, but Baji is quite prevalent in Japanese pop culture, especially in fighting games. I think some of the founders of taekwondo did do Baji though.

@jestfullgremblim8002 Жыл бұрын

Nah, the one that does have a direct conection to Karate is Taichi (and therefore Shuai Jiao and many other styles like Bajiquan have an indirect conection). Taichi is really conected to Bajiquan so i can totally see what you mean.

@cahallo5964 Жыл бұрын

@@jestfullgremblim8002 makes sense thanks

@lps8966 Жыл бұрын

@@jestfullgremblim8002 not any of them you mention, karate came from tan sho do, which, they learn it from southern china, even until these days, you can see a lot of similarities with southern kf such as white crane, southern preying mantis, tai zu, weng Chun ( not wing Chun )

@jestfullgremblim8002 Жыл бұрын

@@lps8966 i know. I didn't say that Karate came from Taichi, now did i? I just said that Taichi has a direct conection because Taichi also comes from the White Crane Style which is where most Traditional Karate Techniques come from

@trumplostlol3007 Жыл бұрын

You need a lot of training to get that stamina. The Baji guy isn't trained for stamina.

@paulhughes5577 6 ай бұрын

You can't put boxing gloves on Chinese styles.

@canaldesugestoesa6651 Жыл бұрын

Two kickboxer fighter.

@magicman9552 5 ай бұрын

It's kind of a shame the Baji guy didn't just reach his foot behind the Muay Thai guy's heel before the throw. I think he would have gotten up each time if he had

@juliannah8187 Жыл бұрын

Sothokant and TKD origin in muay thai

@yo..9584 Жыл бұрын

Wait so why did he start speaking in Chinese in like a segment of the video

@Moodymongul Жыл бұрын

I do have a question: 0:15 If Bajiquan was used in the old Imperial court, by the bodyguards of the Emperors ..why is it using modern boxing and other 20th century techniques? It looks nothing like old systems. Is this revisionisum? Or, using an old styles name, with a new system? And, whats the 'oldest' filmed footage of this system? I'm guessing, there is not footage of it from the 60/70's

@joshuakusuma5953 Жыл бұрын

I'm guessing it's because Bajiquan is relatively new, created somewhere in between the 19th-20th centuries when the monarchy was still a thing and extensive contact with Europe made sure some knowledge of other styles was transferred. Another reason could be because the style went through changes and modifications, just like every other style in order to increase effectiveness.

@Moodymongul Жыл бұрын

@@joshuakusuma5953 Thanks to my family, I'm aware Ming Chuan was the base style used by the Emperors personal body guard (for hundreds of years). Not liked by the Chinese public though, because of what Guangxu Emperor used his bodyguards for ;) Don't google the style, probably lots of 'not Ming Chuan' out there :) Peace.

@MaxPowers2.0 Жыл бұрын

I hate how whenever the chinese kickboxers go up against the thai boxers they only seem to want to counter the kick with throws

@ken244 Жыл бұрын

why is the Thai fighter wearing shin guard's

@juliannah8187 Жыл бұрын

Judo origin in Wrestling, Kushti, Mongolian wrestling

@michaellovric9975 Жыл бұрын

someone is trying to point a laser in the thai fighter's face

@emptyemptiness8372 Жыл бұрын

Bajiquan is a martial art that seems to be largely ignored in the west which is a pity because it has devastating close elbows, throws and body strikes.

@bigfatfoot Жыл бұрын

the baji guy could catch his kicks so many times. If he could just lie on top of his knees and slam his body weight on the ground, that could hurt.

@tjsho417 Жыл бұрын

Sanda could easily match Muay Thai in terms of “most formidable” kickboxing, if Sanda was more popular.

@colemanstarr5404 Жыл бұрын

On " the street," any of those first round strikes would have ended it. Ba ji also has some powerful strikes. But of course a striker who fights pro will have the edge in conditioning and timing

@lawrenceworrell591 Жыл бұрын

Why is the muay Thai guy not teeping

@felipe636 4 ай бұрын

Sanda is not a mix of anything outside chinese kung fu

@angelloakira Жыл бұрын

I don't think. It had anything to do with age

@nelsonwilliam242 Жыл бұрын

lethwei Myanmar Traditional Boxing can beat Muay Thai easily❤❤

@FightCommentary Жыл бұрын

Show me!

@nelsonwilliam242 Жыл бұрын

Search the match of lethwei on google and another platform

@FightCommentary Жыл бұрын

You said Muay Thai loses to lethwei. I’m asking you for that. Not just lethwei. Everyone knows how to find lethwei footage on its own.

@iROChakri Жыл бұрын

Sure, bring Lethwei fighters to ONE or K1. We need them so badly because they're unicorns.

@truth-12345. 3 ай бұрын

That Baji guy need some lung training.

@Sergey_Lazarev77 Жыл бұрын

Bajin - win.

@agusherwanto6609 Жыл бұрын

I can't see kungfu bajiquan here, it's just kickboxing..... 😂

@iROChakri Жыл бұрын

That's exactly why the Kung fu dude lasted 3 rounds

@chrislee8734 6 ай бұрын

But without the ramming elbow it doesn't seems like ba ji is at it'd peak level. I thought ba ji wanted to be super close quater for ramming and take down. The world of martial art sure provide alot to be learn, i'll still be learning until the day i die.

@teofeo333 11 ай бұрын

i will say it again- real kung fu and real muay thai are not allowed in the ring. we will never know who or what is better because its always in a controlled environment with rules

@ShenChang Жыл бұрын

Baji guy forgets the strategic principles of the style here 00:25 when he suffers the first low kick by agreeing to play with his opponent according to the rules they will never allow to traditional styles to be effective. From that moment on it becomes a full-fledged kick boxing match and he takes refuge in the fake safety of his Sanda (which he certainly practices together with the Baji)

@fazares Жыл бұрын

Exactly...as usual i cant see any baji here.....only sloppy kickboxing.....lololol

@ShenChang Жыл бұрын

@@fazares the problem is that if you practice martial arts you can't afford to play with your opponent by following his rules. this is the biggest limit in a sporting comparison

@sugarshawn9244 6 ай бұрын

Again, takeaway Muaythai knees, Elbows, clinch and claims one to be better than another😂

@juliannah8187 Жыл бұрын

All is Western Boxing and Savate !

@railynmansor9431 Жыл бұрын

Kulang pa kayo sa power..train more

@MustAfaalik 4 ай бұрын

BS Bajiquan without full body strikes! Real Baji would have shoulder slammed the boxer to kingdom come!!!🤪

@ricardomachado6792 Жыл бұрын

Muay Thai came from Kung-Fu , Karate came from Kung-Fu . Choy Lay Fut , Northern Shaolin Traditional, Hung Gar, they can fight. The problem with Kung-Fu is many styles nowadays don't train foe.real fights.

@asamiyashin444 Жыл бұрын

I don't see any Bajiquan here. It is poor kickboxing. No stomps, no explosive elbows and body charges in the short range...

@gertruidagertruida3920 6 ай бұрын

why though? baji is not for sports like this, many texhniques cant be used because of rules so what's the point?

@hysterical5408 5 ай бұрын

That's a very bad way of looking at it. The majority of very good martial arts like Muay Thai and BJJ were also originally made to hurt people outside of a sporting context. Why should Bajiquan be any different?

@splendidmonkey 2 ай бұрын

Bajiquan doesn't lend itself to this ruleset. Strong first round but has poor punches and couldn't really keep up in exchanges beyond a single punch or kick.