The BEST BALISONG TRAINER for $60! 👀🤔 better than a Nabalis Vulp though?

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Jon's Balisong Blunders

Jon's Balisong Blunders

5 ай бұрын

@BalisongFlipping recently did a video on the Zenith trainer by Flytanium. he made some bold statements and then came out with another video saying that it's not really what he meant. I think he did actually mean this was the best balisong ever made on the face of the planet in the history of butterfly knives. wow that's not true at all I do agree with him this is a great beginner balisong and it deserves some conversation.
is this better than the Nabalis Vulp?
not better but different! I do think it is competitive and offers a different experience if you're looking for something that is not as standard as a Vulp, which has more familiar feeling size of handles granted the material is not as good and as a little more slippery.
where does it beat the vulp?
I think it does a better job on the material which is 7075 aluminum versus the Vulp's 6061 which we all know is absolute trash and should never be used for any knife (this is my attempt at humor😉.) The machined grooves on the zenith add a ton of grip as well as the speed channels on the side.
where does it lose to the Vulp?
The vulp is better with its t10 hardware which will not get stripped the first time you try to tune it like the t8s will on the Zenith. the vulp also offers you a more comprehensive beginners package including loctite and bushing oil which I don't think make it more valuable but it is nice that it's added for a beginner.
which should you buy?
this all comes down to preferences. I think if you want to support Will because he is an awesome content creator and leader of the community the best way to do it would be purchasing one of his balisongs whether it is the Vulp or Vulp Pro. if that's not as important to you and you want something that offers a different experience than the standard you should totally check out the Zenith because it's fair priced at $60 for what you are getting with the t8 screws being the absolute worst of it but the tuning is not the best either and we'll see how that holds over time.
if you actually read any of this description thank you You deserve to win either the vulp or the Zenith. I plan to give away each of them as I reach some milestones so make sure you subscribe and keep an eye out for when I do that! planning on giving away the Vulp at 500 so get ready!

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@benshaminflips
@benshaminflips 4 ай бұрын
You have been really grinding out the videos! Cool to hear your thoughts comparing these two balis. I hadn't even heard of the Zenith before. The full twirl (also have heard it called the twirl ladder) is a good trick to learn next if you haven't yet! Also, I always read the description, but I also saw what you did to that Vulp at the end 🤪
@JonsBalisongBlunders
@JonsBalisongBlunders 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂LOOK the vulp is great to learn on and you're proof of that 👏👏👏 I'll look up the full twirl and try to learn that! Thanks for recommending and watching. Wasn't planning on recording today but this came sooner than I expected so figured get it out 🤘
@benshaminflips
@benshaminflips 4 ай бұрын
@@JonsBalisongBlunders That makes sense! You could also start with the basic twirl first, then the full twirl, then the extended twirl after that. If you ever have any flipping questions, feel free to hit me up 🤙
@SKMB4
@SKMB4 4 ай бұрын
I just got my zenith today. I upgraded from a boker mini that I got on sale. I picked the zenith for a few reasons. I love the design. I have some flytanium scales on some of my folders and they are fantastic. And lastly because it seems like the consensus is that you grow out of the vulp pretty quickly. With all that said I love the zenith so far. As a beginner that had a cheap Bali to start this is a huge upgrade. Already learned to Chaplin on it in an hour after failing on my old Bali for months.
@JonsBalisongBlunders
@JonsBalisongBlunders 4 ай бұрын
That's great to hear! I also like the design. It's not perfect but for what it is I think it's a great option and will get you a good ways for a budget. I was also recommended the orion 1.5 which is similarly priced but I haven't checked out yet. Enjoy the zenith!
@TheBuffnessFlips
@TheBuffnessFlips 4 ай бұрын
Another great video! Another win for consistency as well! Now that you licked the Vulp I’m sure everyone will want it even more😂 I want to give the zenith another try now. I only flipped the crusty prototype with trash tolerances at bladeshow and I didn’t really develop an opinion. As I see more vids on it I want to give it a second chance.
@JonsBalisongBlunders
@JonsBalisongBlunders 4 ай бұрын
Tolerances are def not great but it's also $60 🤷‍♀️. It does have some interesting balance but it's not bad. I'm currently more inclined to grab this over the vulp, but the vulp has a more familiar handle shape.
@tgafire87
@tgafire87 4 ай бұрын
Ordered the Zenith. I’ve had the Kershaw Bali for years and haven been but a few times. Getting a trainer will really help me practice more confidently.
@JonsBalisongBlunders
@JonsBalisongBlunders 4 ай бұрын
The Kershaw lucha is pretty heavy and tough to get comfortable with because of that. The zenith isnt perfect but for $60 is a great trainer to let you do a lot more than the lucha will. Enjoy homie!
@joshuagerber8362
@joshuagerber8362 Күн бұрын
Just got the Flytanium, sadly it has alot of play. Trying to adjust it like any other balison, no screwdriver i own fits. Any tips ? Thanks alot.
@JonsBalisongBlunders
@JonsBalisongBlunders Күн бұрын
So it uses a torx 8 bit which is what you need to tighten it. From there a dab of oil helps to make tolerances better. Was it like that out of the box? I haven't had any issues with mine.
@jtm94
@jtm94 4 ай бұрын
Probably gonna grab one, I got into the hobby with a Vulp and I kinda hate it, lots of people said I was just ass and needed more practice, well I've got some months in, picked up some other balis, and man.... The Vulp kinda sucks(for me). It feels extremely handle biased, is the slipperiest bali I own, and it chaplins by far the worst if at all out of certain tricks. It still succeeded at getting me into the hobby though. I wanna grab the Zenith just because it looks like a unique experience and I like some of the colors, thanks for the review there aren't many talking about this bali.
@JonsBalisongBlunders
@JonsBalisongBlunders 4 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy it! Way different feel that a vulp. However if you're looking for something a bit more premium I highly recommend the MachineWise Prysma Pro 🤘
@jtm94
@jtm94 4 ай бұрын
@@JonsBalisongBlunders A little pricey for my bones, but I definitely want one.
@brodiebiggs8102
@brodiebiggs8102 4 ай бұрын
great video. I have the Kershaw Lucha with Flytanium titanium handles, but looking for a good trainer...might consider this.
@JonsBalisongBlunders
@JonsBalisongBlunders 4 ай бұрын
While there might be better options out there I think this is a great choice for the price point and competitive for what it is. It will also allow you to start to identify what your preferences may be 🤘
@OwenGT15
@OwenGT15 3 ай бұрын
Is there rap or play. Maybe it’s the video but i’d does kinda sound like it had two. just wanted to make sure
@JonsBalisongBlunders
@JonsBalisongBlunders 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, if you want a great trainer that you won't need to upgrade from you should get a MachineWise Prysma or Prysma Pro. These will not leave you wanting more. The zenith is OK and will serve you fine, but you'll out grow it.
@OwenGT15
@OwenGT15 3 ай бұрын
@@JonsBalisongBlunders alright. good to know. thanks
@Goodbalisongflipper
@Goodbalisongflipper 4 ай бұрын
Zenith is the best “fight me” 😂😂
@JonsBalisongBlunders
@JonsBalisongBlunders 4 ай бұрын
🤼let's go 😂
@missilemagnum3106
@missilemagnum3106 4 ай бұрын
Is it better than the squiddy al?
@JonsBalisongBlunders
@JonsBalisongBlunders 4 ай бұрын
No clue! I haven't tried the squiddy Al and you may have a preference different than mine. Very generally speaking I think squid industries products are a little overpriced but they are generally good quality 🤘 I know a lot of people enjoy the squiddy Al and I think the design looks cool I've just never tried one so can't speak to how it performs
@m8mZ
@m8mZ 4 ай бұрын
i like the squiddy al more than most of my collection that thing is super unique in the best ways possible. zenith is better than the vulp fs tho. Al>zenith>vulp imo
@missilemagnum3106
@missilemagnum3106 4 ай бұрын
@@JonsBalisongBlunders makes sense, thank you!
@missilemagnum3106
@missilemagnum3106 4 ай бұрын
@@m8mZ alright thanks, I might just get some pricer like a prysma
@m8mZ
@m8mZ 4 ай бұрын
@@missilemagnum3106 anything from machinewise is gonna be better than most balisong ever made crazy value with it being a platform for all their knives making them interchangeable
@Darthflips
@Darthflips 3 ай бұрын
Man i dunno. That thing doesnt sound to bouncy. Sounds kind of dead. Maybe some lube
@JonsBalisongBlunders
@JonsBalisongBlunders 3 ай бұрын
Fair enough! I'll be honest after getting a Prysma and Prysma Pro I don't really pick this one up much 🤘
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