The Best Beginner Camera in 2023

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@mattih
@mattih 7 ай бұрын
The BTS of how they filmed the event is out 🙌🏻 go and watch 😊
@sandrovitalini1629
@sandrovitalini1629 7 ай бұрын
They used the Blackmagic app tho 😅
@2424rocket
@2424rocket 7 ай бұрын
That’s right… They didn’t even use final cut. Because final cut is a joke compared to resolve. And if you noticed they tested the light levels and made the light levels perfect for the iPhone. Try doing that in real life.@@sandrovitalini1629
@NetvoTV
@NetvoTV 7 ай бұрын
Not sure if the Blackmagic app is intended because what will it be if it never released and will they still use iPhone to film it or they know it's coming?
@JacquesCoetzerAU
@JacquesCoetzerAU 7 ай бұрын
@@NetvoTV It's definitely intended, it's in the video
@JacquesCoetzerAU
@JacquesCoetzerAU 7 ай бұрын
@@sandrovitalini1629 What's wrong with the Blackmagic Camera app?
@PeterMcKinnon
@PeterMcKinnon 7 ай бұрын
I need to make a video with this phone and test that footage quality. Craziness!
@WiseOwlTree
@WiseOwlTree 7 ай бұрын
It's not intimidating at all to have my very first KZfaq comment posting now sitting in-between @MattHaapoja and @PetterMckinnon Comments...Haha
@moishyneulander
@moishyneulander 7 ай бұрын
I asked myself where is @PeterMcKinnon iPhone 15 videos.
@alexSpunkt.
@alexSpunkt. 7 ай бұрын
And go outside to take photos please 🙏
@TheSpacemanSpliff
@TheSpacemanSpliff 7 ай бұрын
I tweeted about Apple not using an iPhone 15 to film the 15's launch. It's pretty awesome they came through this time and at least did it for this. Kudos to the them!
@jammaschan
@jammaschan 7 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure they actually did, but just didn't announce it, judging by the quality of the presentation. Their older presentations were probably shot on cinema cameras, while the past two presentations were iPhone quality.
@noblecomments4009
@noblecomments4009 7 ай бұрын
I’m not sure if it was you or who said it years ago but, they once said, “Any camera is good under right lighting” that’s the key, the thousands dollar lights and panels 😅
@smarthousetech8593
@smarthousetech8593 7 ай бұрын
And the Magic of Final Cut Pro on an M2 or M3 Pro Mac amd thousands of dollars of equiment and accessories.
@techkernels
@techkernels Ай бұрын
@@smarthousetech8593 pretty sure it was on davinci instead of final cut pro and they used bmc design's pro video app
@ssaaffuu
@ssaaffuu 7 ай бұрын
can't wait to see this vid clipped and put in another montage next year much love Matti what a time to be alive
@thedownloshow
@thedownloshow 7 ай бұрын
Cool thanks for recommending the LUTs! I could use more
@MarcoRoman89
@MarcoRoman89 7 ай бұрын
I would actually take the DJI Pocket 3 Creative Combo over an iPhone 15 if I was just beginning. You get a 1" sensor, a gimball, a mic, tripod, a very usable 2" screen plus all the benefits of the custom shooting modes. So far for me, it's been a great camera.
@jayesh_15
@jayesh_15 7 ай бұрын
Nice. To the point 🎉
@pandero93
@pandero93 7 ай бұрын
With an iPhone 15 Pro Max you can not only shoot excellent footage, but also you can make phone calls. Isn't it fascinating?
@uptoyou2399
@uptoyou2399 7 ай бұрын
Sounds great 😉🙃
@MiguelAngel-og3ww
@MiguelAngel-og3ww 7 ай бұрын
😲😲🤩🤩
@michaelwoolcock5600
@michaelwoolcock5600 7 ай бұрын
Who knew?
@jammaschan
@jammaschan 7 ай бұрын
With a car not only can you drive, but you can also listen to music. Isn't it fascinating?
@AndreSjoberg
@AndreSjoberg 7 ай бұрын
BUT!!! You can’t make a phone call *while* filming video - which is insanely stupid! If I’m filming b-roll, and don’t need audio, and disable the mic in the video app, WHY can’t I answer a phone call? Or listen to an audio book? Filming a 30 minute world world wide campaign video? Suuuuure, but talking on the phone while filming a video without sound? Nope, sorry, that’s too heavy maaaaan …
@travel9to5
@travel9to5 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree, the best camera is the one you have in your pocket!
@watts4reel756
@watts4reel756 7 ай бұрын
Are you going to make a video over the DJI pocket 3? I’m curious how this compares to the iPhone
@WiseOwlTree
@WiseOwlTree 7 ай бұрын
Having just done my very first KZfaq short video this week using a 13 year old Nikon camera that does 1080p video, now having got the KZfaq creator bug, i was thinking of getting a newer camera or iPhone 15 Pro due to doing videos in Raw format....Thanks Matti for the video upload, maybe my next KZfaq video is a iPhone 15 pro unboxing
@REVIEWSONTHERUN
@REVIEWSONTHERUN 7 ай бұрын
Cool!✌️
@jny2956
@jny2956 7 ай бұрын
does the apple watch live feed works when using the blackmagic camera app?
@wavensdorvad
@wavensdorvad 7 ай бұрын
I would like a good setup for the iPhone to use with video monitoring without expending much more
@CodyMadewell
@CodyMadewell 7 ай бұрын
I need the 15 sooo bad. saving up
@lifeladderpodcast
@lifeladderpodcast 7 ай бұрын
I’m pretty impressed with what an iPhone can do. The ability record to SSD is a pretty sweet feature. They can still overheat pretty easy, but this is a nice camera that can also be a phone 😂.
@Eyeofkamau
@Eyeofkamau 7 ай бұрын
I’d say it’s a nice phone that can also be a camera - it is a phone first, after all lol
@PlanetImo
@PlanetImo 7 ай бұрын
Wow!
@d2suarez
@d2suarez 7 ай бұрын
I just watched the behind the scenes. I was also struck that they edited it with DaVinci resolve, they had it on the screens in the background and thanked blackmagic at the end. What does this say about how apple sees Final Cut Pro?
@asledzinski7
@asledzinski7 7 ай бұрын
where the dji pocket 3 review?
@alrizo1115
@alrizo1115 7 ай бұрын
Missed the opportunity to shoot it in iphone while doing the talk then revealing it at the end with just the text. But still, your point is spot on. 🎉
@martykauffman
@martykauffman 7 ай бұрын
So are you tell me this is better than the Sony ZVE 1?
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 7 ай бұрын
Incredible. I can finally do a whistlindiesel style durability test on the Alexa now that I no longer need it 😂
@viveksuryavanshi6165
@viveksuryavanshi6165 7 ай бұрын
how does regular 15 camera compares to 15 pro ? huge camera real-life differences?
@BelindaFarage
@BelindaFarage 7 ай бұрын
You said a mouthful! Story is still King. Lighting i everything. And the right camera for the right project. Don’t apologize for using a phone if thats all you have right now. Go for it! Stop wasting time thinking and DO!
@stevemuzak8526
@stevemuzak8526 7 ай бұрын
It's a proof that your shots needs to be well-lit.
@jammaschan
@jammaschan 7 ай бұрын
I noticed a couple of minutes in that it was probably shot on iPhone. It was good enough for me to doubt myself though, until they confirmed my suspicions at the end.
@RobBibby
@RobBibby 7 ай бұрын
It's all about lighting. simple as that. my biggest issue with this whole "shot on iPhone" is they don't show people the insane amount of light needed for that tiny sensor to look good
@prashants387
@prashants387 7 ай бұрын
i had the same thought 😅 the camera gear used with 15 promax for apple event was so expensive
@NickSlater
@NickSlater 7 ай бұрын
How do you explain the low light intro then?
@StephenProffitt
@StephenProffitt 7 ай бұрын
@@NickSlaterIt’s not pitch black. There are lights still being used, probably tweaks in post to look dark and noise reduction etc
@RobBibby
@RobBibby 7 ай бұрын
very easily, the magic of post production...@@NickSlater
@GrimTravels
@GrimTravels 7 ай бұрын
I would love to do a horror short film but I do not have any good lighting at the moment to film on my iPhone 14 pro. 🫠
@DreaMosTru
@DreaMosTru 5 ай бұрын
u r correct lighting is the most imp thing -- note "right" is a hate word so i use "correct" ("left" was seen as "dumb" c etymology)
@nemasnemasnemas
@nemasnemasnemas 7 ай бұрын
upgraded from iPhone 7 plus to iPhone 15 pro. Disappointingly expected the battery to be stronger than my iPhone 7, but it wasn't by a lot. Everything else bangs tho.
@beniamingherman2452
@beniamingherman2452 7 ай бұрын
Battery is pretty hard to get leaps in because the 15 pro not only gets a slightly better battery than before but gets stronger which means it kinda cancels out the new battery because it drains more juice so basically battery performance is at a halt right now unless they make it thicker
@ricci.hidalgo
@ricci.hidalgo 7 ай бұрын
Excellent video, I guess it was shot on a iPhone 15 Pro!
@gregmiller98
@gregmiller98 7 ай бұрын
Do you think that the 15 pro is a big leap from the 14 pro? is it worth to upgrade or you can make nearly the same quality videos on the 14 pro?
@Eyeofkamau
@Eyeofkamau 7 ай бұрын
14 doesn’t have Log, which makes a huge difference. But if you’re going to upgrade and soend money, you might as well buy a 2nd hand mirrorless camera like a fujifilm XT3, XS20, a sony a7siii. Despite the hype, the truth is the iphone 15 doesn’t come close to what real cameras can do, in terms of both image quality and utility.
@jsnmrry
@jsnmrry 7 ай бұрын
I only shoot and edit on iPhone these days. It just makes it easier and more convenient.
@jostalking
@jostalking 7 ай бұрын
I had the iPhone 14 pro max and upgraded to the 15 reluctantly, but honestly I feel like the 15 has better colors than the 14 and also looks less digital am I wrong? love your stuff Matti! Do you recommend a LUT for the iPhone Log footage?
@mattih
@mattih 7 ай бұрын
Yea I think it’s a big jump in image when it comes to using apple log 😊
@NetvoTV
@NetvoTV 7 ай бұрын
But iPhone and many other phone right now is like a single lens camera with others nice to have cameras on it because mainly the good decent quality camera is the main camera
@cyrilanne
@cyrilanne 7 ай бұрын
It’s strange because I’m excited about this, just to have a phone and not spending thousand of dollars in Sony a7s iii and lens and settings but I feel a bit sad too because less charming 😢 hard to explain
@DavidNakkila
@DavidNakkila 7 ай бұрын
I film all my videos on my other channel on iphone and quite a few on this channel as well. I sold my DSLR lol
@JarradShaw
@JarradShaw 7 ай бұрын
@SteveHowkins
@SteveHowkins 7 ай бұрын
This video and others (from you and others haha) has made me decide to ditch my A6400 and buy a 15 pro max. iPhone is simple and convenient. A6400 isn't and if i'm honest with myself the faff of setting up a camera and everything that goes with it has put me off using it. Useful videos like this are what youtube is about! Thank you.
@ADivaForLife
@ADivaForLife 7 ай бұрын
I still have the 11 humm maybe I’ll go 14 Pro Max and wait
@Eyeofkamau
@Eyeofkamau 7 ай бұрын
I think the best beginner camera is an actual camera, not a Smartphone that has a camera. In this event’s case, it’s Apple’s production, not the camera. They could’ve gotten even better footage with a used fujifilm XT3 for $500, which allows you to control basic settings like shutter speed without needing to download an app. A beginner can’t learn how to manual focus or anything with an iPhone, it’s a limitation. This is coming from someone that learned the hard way, starting out with Moment Lenses for my iPhone X, thinking it was all I needed. That event footage definitely looks like iPhone footage to my eye too.
@loiccoquelle
@loiccoquelle 7 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Saying that anyone starting shooting should get an iPhone is nonsense to me. Get a good second-hand DSLR and learn manual settings, focus pulling... And as you progress you can even buy better lenses, which you cannot do with a smartphone. Learning how to operate a cheap second hand DSLR or video camera will teach you so much more than handling an iPhone. Today, you can even get a proper video camera like a Canon C100 with a 50mm for less than 1000 bucks. That's at least 500 less than an iPhone and you have some money left for lighting equipment. And you get to use an actual video camera which will teach you a whole lot more! And that's not to say that you cannot get good looking videos on an iPhone: my point is that it is simply not the best tool to learn video shooting if you are serious about learning it.
@Eyeofkamau
@Eyeofkamau 7 ай бұрын
@@loiccoquelle 100% agree!
@AivarsMeijers
@AivarsMeijers 7 ай бұрын
Let’s find that 2+ years old video where Matti said that iPhone never will be good enough for video :D
@Augusto0926
@Augusto0926 7 ай бұрын
Ughhhh now I wanna trade in my 14 pro max 😫😫😫😫😫
@RenatsMC1
@RenatsMC1 7 ай бұрын
I couldnt agree more i film all my videos and take all my images using iphone 13 pro max and sometimes i edit on mac sometimes i edit on phone. Also i used to use andorid for years and windows for yesra but for editing and video editing apple does better job.
@jammaschan
@jammaschan 7 ай бұрын
But also they had like 4x $26k Arri Sky Panels lighting the hero shot of Tim Cook, so it's kinda pointless to say that it was the iPhone. You could probably get the iPhone 11 or any flagship phone from the last few years and it would look pretty good too. 10bit Prores log might have helped, but don't expect to have good lowlight performance like they would have you believe.
@Eyeofkamau
@Eyeofkamau 7 ай бұрын
Also, You can get a mirrorless camera with a much larger sensor that shoots 10bit 422 internally for $700. No way is an iphone that doesn’t even allow to touch control basic settings like Shutter speed, Aperture and ISO without having to download an app the best beginning camera
@williamsolis1
@williamsolis1 7 ай бұрын
weak argument
@jammaschan
@jammaschan 7 ай бұрын
@@williamsolis1 ok, gimmie a stronger one.
@StephenProffitt
@StephenProffitt 7 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to see the same setup but with older iPhones
@cinemadonut7744
@cinemadonut7744 7 ай бұрын
Uhmmm, cant you get a FullFrame a7iii used For like $1.5k or a BMPC 4k or $1.2 + a m42 converter and 3 used old analog lenses for maybe a $100 more. I mean the Iphone is amazing and yes you shouldn't use gear as an excuse. If you already have an Iphone and dont have a camera, then indeed the Iphone is the best beginner camera for you. However, saying that its the "best" beginner camera is stretching it a bit. The premise of this video is good, shoot more and learn > Camera that you are using, but if you are looking to get your feet wet in video or photography, there are options that are miles better, which give you more learning opportunities that the iphone doesn't.
@jessecumberledge4530
@jessecumberledge4530 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. Matti compared the iPhone 15 to an alexa, but the BMPCC 4k has been out for 5 years and it has been used for years to cut perfectly with alexas. Plenty of cameras that are under 1k will work great and allow you to learn how to shoot. So basically, the iPhone 15 is now getting quality similar to a 7-year-old M43 camera. Which is fine, but I don't see why all these youtubers keep saying this.
@cinemadonut7744
@cinemadonut7744 7 ай бұрын
@@jessecumberledge4530 I think he was making a point of how you dont need good gear to learn and that sometimes "worse" cameras are better for your project/situation, which is a good point, but honestly braw on the Pocket 4k is not even comparable to the Iphone 15, the sensor on the phone is just too small, the whole image looks a lot cheaper especially when there are now drones with bigger sensors who get a cleaner image. Not even gonna mention the fact that the small sensor is going to get exponentially worse the darker it gets, I mean hell the Sony a6000 which is 400$ and is super old will still get you a cleaner image in low light than an Iphone and the pocket 4k is still being used today on huge projects as a crashcam/bcam because its just that good/cheap. You can practice composition, story telling, lighting and a lot more on the iphone but you cant change lenses, and god knows that at Iphone 24mm and a fullframe 24mm are not even close. All in all, its not bad to say the Iphone is amazing and that it DEFINITLY has its place in cinematography/photography, but "the best beginner camera" is just too much for me honestly.
@jessecumberledge4530
@jessecumberledge4530 7 ай бұрын
@@cinemadonut7744 Fair enough. My point was, all these youtube want to compare this $1300 IPhone to very expensive cameras, while you can get cameras that are cheaper that will get better quality. Also yes I agree the BMPCC 4k kill the IPhone, I was more so meaning to compare it to a GH4.
@PWingert1966
@PWingert1966 7 ай бұрын
I cancelled my purchase of a new Cannon R-series mirroless when I realized how good the iPhone 15 is!
@renhearttaja
@renhearttaja 7 ай бұрын
I thought you also shot this on an iphone, that would be so funny.. 😅 but yeah it’s a7siii.. 😂
@rayanknezic8682
@rayanknezic8682 7 ай бұрын
Its still over a 1000 dollars though. So beginner friendly yes easy to use but expensive
@HantuBorneo
@HantuBorneo 7 ай бұрын
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@jaydeeppatel7715
@jaydeeppatel7715 7 ай бұрын
I thinks apple should collaborate with arri to get that colour and skin tone of alexa
@GiannisBak
@GiannisBak 7 ай бұрын
I 'm the 1000th like... not that anyone cares... Nice to know they did that. I knew the iPhone is good at videos and I did my fishing videos with my iPhone 13 Pro... I know it is just my that I haven't mastered video making in anyway and they come out mediocre, and not my lack of gear...
@Electricspeedking
@Electricspeedking 7 ай бұрын
Well done on the 1000 like. 🎉
@EnriqueArmentaR
@EnriqueArmentaR 7 ай бұрын
I been working with and iPhone since the 7 Plus, i don't care about Alexa or Sony or Canon.
@OlegMoShi
@OlegMoShi 7 ай бұрын
This CINELUTS = your CINEMA LUTS?
@josephmarkallen17
@josephmarkallen17 7 ай бұрын
iPhone 15 Pro OR iPhone 15 Pro MAX?! I like the size of the pro... and not sure if I want the size of the MAX… Thoughts?
@abhaybhanote
@abhaybhanote 7 ай бұрын
am confused about the same stuff, not sure what to do 😢
@josephmarkallen17
@josephmarkallen17 7 ай бұрын
@@abhaybhanote I was hoping the experts here would shed some light!
@abhaybhanote
@abhaybhanote 7 ай бұрын
@@josephmarkallen17 exactly , am continuously looking for reviews
@Benjamin_Jehne
@Benjamin_Jehne 7 ай бұрын
If your style is a through and through sharp image under very controlled light, then your claim is right. For the rest, sorry, but no. Even under normal conditions, you alwasy have to deal with recflecting light. These conditions in the video where so extremely controlled. No spotlight, nothing. Why should I work with a lot of workarounds to let the image look the way I wanted, when I can get something that works immediately. This is to much hype for an extremely closed camera. If someone can't afford an SIII, go for an A6700 with some sigma lenses or what ever. But that is a better invest than an iPhone.
@JayGee1
@JayGee1 7 ай бұрын
With a starting price at 1300usd I wouldn't even consider it as a beginner camera.. Ridiculous to call it a beginner camera. IMHO
@gainde1137
@gainde1137 7 ай бұрын
If you also need a new phone, herewith ypu have 2 for 1. A Ricoh GR III or any other good compact camera is also pricy.
@interpoliandotv
@interpoliandotv 6 ай бұрын
Any VZ1 is better than iPhone , MFT camera , crop sensor camera is cheaper and better too.
@IlyaHawx
@IlyaHawx 7 ай бұрын
Matti: Gear is an excuse. Look at Apple. Apple: [Shoots their presentation on iPhone... rigged into an enormous gimbal while the scene is lighted with giant light sources etc. ] ... Nah, you're right anyway, another excuse :)
@Garnett.
@Garnett. 7 ай бұрын
I upgraded from iphone x to iphone 15 pro recently
@mattih
@mattih 7 ай бұрын
That’s a hugeeee jump
7 ай бұрын
Same here. Really pleased with the 15 pro. Hope it last as many years as the X did.
@1venukrish
@1venukrish 7 ай бұрын
First comment
@iConspicturez
@iConspicturez 7 ай бұрын
Actually matti i dont think the iphone is the begginer camera it kinda deserves the pro title. 🎥😅 i mean woow look at what they shoot with it.
@mattih
@mattih 7 ай бұрын
Haha best pro camera? 😂
@iConspicturez
@iConspicturez 7 ай бұрын
@@mattih yes matti one of the best pro cameras ever made. 😅
@Photises
@Photises 7 ай бұрын
Nop xdddd is so expensive and you cannot use a real lens and get the image effect that the differents lens give you
@marklholloway
@marklholloway 7 ай бұрын
BTS confirms Shot on iPhone 15, edited in Premiere, graded in Resolve. Poor FCPX 😢 No reason they couldn’t have at least edited in it
@ARITRAGHOSHFilms
@ARITRAGHOSHFilms 7 ай бұрын
I don't get it..I mean that iphone 15 pro is expensive enough not to be a beginner's camera. Beginner's camera budget is half of that Price.
@AllTorque
@AllTorque 7 ай бұрын
This is entirely nonsense though. Any decent sensor will give a great result with 300 dollars of lighting and an expensive gimbal and drone or on a full steadcam rig. It's ok having a 1500 dollar camera ... if you need half a million dollars elsewhere to get the result. It's like me buying a 1980's Skoda and putting a Formula 1 engine in it ... of course it will be fast ... but it will no longer be cheap.
@8lec_R
@8lec_R 7 ай бұрын
Unless you don't already own one. Then get a used black magic camera.
@baekmedier
@baekmedier 7 ай бұрын
No.. dont go there :D What happens if the phone rings while you are filming ? :P Either you lose the client who is calling to book you... or you lose the client that you are filming for because your "professional" video camera aka your phone is biiping and ringing all the time :P
@jamesmcintoshjr
@jamesmcintoshjr 7 ай бұрын
nope, it's a DJI pocket 3.
@JaroAtry
@JaroAtry 7 ай бұрын
I would argue that the DJI Pocket 3 is a better camera for beginners than the iPhone.
@carl_joyce
@carl_joyce 7 ай бұрын
And it’s half the price
@StephenProffitt
@StephenProffitt 7 ай бұрын
Agree, although you still need another device to edit, post etc
@carl_joyce
@carl_joyce 7 ай бұрын
@@StephenProffitt but who doesn’t have a computer already and DaVinci is free to download, buy a £50 set of ND’s and you’re producing pretty decent quality video from a £450 camera
@AlainKapture
@AlainKapture 7 ай бұрын
That’s why the event was only about 30min, the storage was full!…
@SurflexxYT
@SurflexxYT 7 ай бұрын
@alemattosbr
@alemattosbr 7 ай бұрын
When I see filmmakers start using iPhone in paid jobs, I'll start to believe this propaganda.
@everyoneyoutube
@everyoneyoutube 7 ай бұрын
Not good 😂 his own video suit using using camera 📸 awesome Jockey 😂 he tell awesome story 😜
@tyler3201
@tyler3201 7 ай бұрын
Paid for by Apple and made by a guy that knows nothing.
@gegeamid
@gegeamid 7 ай бұрын
primul
@jamiewanders5790
@jamiewanders5790 7 ай бұрын
Iphone 15 pro sucks as it crashes very often
@pandero93
@pandero93 7 ай бұрын
With an iPhone 15 Pro Max you can not only shoot excellent footage, but also you can make phone calls. Isn't it fascinating?
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