The BEST Beginner Telescope | Sky-Watcher Skyliner 10" Dobsonian

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Helena's Astrophotography

Helena's Astrophotography

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Hey guys! Today's upload is a little earlier as I have other commitments that I have to attend to later on this evening. I've had my telescope for almost 3 years now, and thought it was about time to review it on my channel. If you have any questions, please feel free to leave them in the comments below and I'll try and get back to you as soon as I can!
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@JaySott
@JaySott 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review Helena. Great to see your interest in Astronomy and passion for the night sky!!
@wildbsc
@wildbsc 5 жыл бұрын
This must be the best or nearly the best informative video on Utub e Well done you deserve to go far! Pun!
@richardmorgan1588
@richardmorgan1588 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully detailed and articulately explained review of this telescope and what can be realistically expected from its use! Thank you so much! I agree with you that it would not be a particularly portable scope!
@Mike__G
@Mike__G 2 жыл бұрын
I had one of these and used it happily for several years to learn the sky in depth. Only one small issue: the mechanism to tighten the scope in altitude is a handle that you tighten. Typically you need to aim the scope a tad above the object you’re observing because the scope settles a bit. Also, the stock finder is fine, but I found investing in a Telrad (a zero power finder) a must. This scope is a very good value.
@LunarJim69
@LunarJim69 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Helena!
@nikolixjack
@nikolixjack 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I just pulled the trigger on this telescope. Thanks for the nice info Helena :-)
@Toogoodtobetrue458
@Toogoodtobetrue458 5 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Nice review. I was out planet and moon gazing also on a Orion 10” dob this past Friday. Got to see Saturn as well.
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome! Glad you made it out with your scope ⭐️
@Misigun99
@Misigun99 4 жыл бұрын
You've just won a subscriber. Nice review, very helpful. I've been considering buying one and retiring my 70/700mm refractor. Greetings from Hungary.
@TheUrbanAstronomer
@TheUrbanAstronomer 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review!
@wizardofaus8473
@wizardofaus8473 6 ай бұрын
What a delightful human being. Thank you for the review Helena
@kingcee3642
@kingcee3642 2 жыл бұрын
Your observations are very helpful and spot on!!!! Thank you young lady👍👍
@carlgerhardbusch1535
@carlgerhardbusch1535 3 жыл бұрын
Good reviewExcellent review Helena
@epickcrom5606
@epickcrom5606 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I also have a 10 inch dobsonian, it's the only scope you will ever need. Unbelievable views
@patrogers6297
@patrogers6297 2 жыл бұрын
Very good review! You’ve covered so many of the questions I have and so clearly. I’m new to astronomy and thinking about getting an 8” or 10” dob for my cabin in the mountains (6700 ft elevation and limited view due to tall trees) but need to seek out a club or star parties first to get a real idea of whether I am truly motivated. The pandemic has shut so much activity down that it is hard to make connections. Really looking forward to seeing your other videos. Thank you.
@Mike__G
@Mike__G 2 жыл бұрын
As a proud Canadian, might I also suggest one of the best books written for the beginning astronomer: Nightwatch by Terence Dickinson.
@uglystrawberry
@uglystrawberry 3 жыл бұрын
great review .. i am gonna buy it !!
@scopesinthecity9985
@scopesinthecity9985 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great review
@Kentworlds
@Kentworlds 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you so much.
@jayhill174
@jayhill174 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your channel. I've enjoyed watching and really enjoy your explanations along with your passion for the hobby. I have an Apertura AD8 on its way to me next month which I believe is pretty much the same scope. What are your thoughts on attaching an AS224MC to this scope?
@bigedslobotomy
@bigedslobotomy Жыл бұрын
I find your videos very informative! Hello, from Helena, Montana (USA)!
@NOLASkaGuitarist
@NOLASkaGuitarist 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same scope, ended up putting a Moonlite focuser on it. Great light bucket!
@cpdudeyt
@cpdudeyt Жыл бұрын
I own a sky watcher 8 inch dobsonian and I can confirm that the 8 or the 10 inch is not good for beginners. I mean it's great for advanced people but I have the 8 inch and it's sooo hard to manage or control. But it's worth it! So for a beginner I recommend buying a small refractor or a 5 or 6 inch reflector.
@tiggandsoot
@tiggandsoot 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks
@ExoticGenius2098
@ExoticGenius2098 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Helena!! I saw this video a while ago and considered this scope after my 6” SW Dobsonian. Guess what I have now? A Skywatcher 10” dob 😁😁 Thanks for the help!!!
@wittyboy64
@wittyboy64 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Planning to buy a skywatcher telescope
@--Artur--
@--Artur-- 4 жыл бұрын
Love the video! Thanks
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 4 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome! Clear skies.
@bowenwinterbottom
@bowenwinterbottom 5 ай бұрын
I just bought the collapsible “flex tube” version of this scope! Very excited, however a bit nervous about learning to collimate the mirrors
@damienmortimore6784
@damienmortimore6784 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Helena, I’ve just got this telescope 😊 I was just wondering about eye pieces and what you would recommend? Also is it best to go for the more up market and expensive and how much difference do they make?
@andrews5723
@andrews5723 2 жыл бұрын
When transporting the scope do you run into any issues? Do you detach it from the base or keep it as one?
@ngm1237
@ngm1237 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I just purchased the same scope second hand (I'm a novice btw) but I haven't picked it up yet. Lemon or bargain? I'll update soon but if it's as good as yours I'll be very pleased.
@billyray323
@billyray323 2 жыл бұрын
Very good presentation young lady, I'm looking at a smaller Sywatcher, however your information is transferable Thank you 😉✌🏻🇬🇧
@PatSeguin
@PatSeguin 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! Great video, I was wondering if you know the difference between the 250px and the 250p. Is there one better than the other?
@arunangshub
@arunangshub 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review Helena. I’m new to stargazing . Just wondering if sky watcher 6’’ dobs will be good. Please let me know your views
@marvingates3045
@marvingates3045 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Helena, One more question. When researching the Skywatcher 10 inch Dobsonians, I keep seeing multiple types. I was looking for one that is not a flextube. I have found them both as the 250p and just the classic Dobsonian, not finding the px which I think is a pirex mirror. Is there difference between the types? I can't seem to get an answer to this in my online searching. I have even called a telescope dealer here and they couldn't answer it. Any help would be great. Thanks! Difference between the 250p, 250px and classic 10 inch.
@sunjay-_-perera
@sunjay-_-perera 3 жыл бұрын
What’s better overall a 8 inch dobs or a 10 inch. Can they both see the same stuff? Is a computerised one better? Does it run of batteries, if so how long does it last before i dies. Manual or computerised one who you recommend?
@astrocactus4097
@astrocactus4097 3 жыл бұрын
Hello miss, do you think that the smaller versoin of this the s11600 6 inch is also good? What would u be able to view with this? Thanks!
@jimdean294
@jimdean294 2 жыл бұрын
Wow kido, nice go.. So overall this wouldnt be a bad buy for my 2nd scope? (I had a 4 5 celestron)
@Kira28720
@Kira28720 2 жыл бұрын
my favorite astronomy channel (after astrobicuit)
@osrictentaqclesmin
@osrictentaqclesmin 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there. thanks for making this video. Seriously considering buying. Yet the ones I find only come with 10mm and 25mm eye pieces and no infra red etc. Where did you purchase yours
@josefmatus8904
@josefmatus8904 3 жыл бұрын
great reviw :-) love you passion
@aaron-massey-5511
@aaron-massey-5511 3 жыл бұрын
Hiya, i have a little question. Is this telescope good for deep space objects? Like: nebulae or galaxies
@harsh365286
@harsh365286 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have the same telescope and need help. I cannot see anything. Even the moon is hard. Please could you recommend a moon filter that I could use and fits on the 250p. Also any thoughts on how I can see the planets? Do I need a filter or some add on to view them? Thanks
@sergiodibella7533
@sergiodibella7533 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Helena, very interesting video :) but I have a question if I can.. i've been seeing a lot of video on KZfaq to choose a telescope and often youtubers show what the can observe witb their telescope but often planets are like out of focus, with no details, something like that.. I could Be interested in this 10" telescope but I am scared about spending a lot of Money and see planets or comets with no details or not Sharp.. so I would like to have your opinion. thankyou
@TorshovG
@TorshovG 3 жыл бұрын
How do you collimate your telescope? Do you use a laser a collimator?
@racheltgal
@racheltgal 3 жыл бұрын
thank you another great video USA Maine
@Antares1982
@Antares1982 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Can you tell me the Diameter of the Bottom Plate? How are Plossl Eyepiece on this Telescope? Thank you!!
@td6935
@td6935 3 жыл бұрын
What are those filters for ? Is it for planets moon and nebulae ir what are those
@nordmende73
@nordmende73 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@emilylyons2683
@emilylyons2683 3 жыл бұрын
Do you disassemble the base from the optical telescope when you carry it? I am going to have to carry whatever scope I get a little ways, plus down my front steps, to get to open sky. I would like to get a Dobsonian, but am worried about that bit.
@Mike__G
@Mike__G 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. You move the scope in two pieces - the base and the tube. The process is more awkward than heavy, but quite doable for a healthy adult.
@casper2yall
@casper2yall Жыл бұрын
Great video, I just bought my first telescope :)
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography Жыл бұрын
Congratulations!
@LarsAndersenFrihed
@LarsAndersenFrihed 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I'm looking to buy the 8 inch version.
@cpdudeyt
@cpdudeyt Жыл бұрын
I have the 8 inch its same as 10 inch absolutely worth it
@upcycleengineer7825
@upcycleengineer7825 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought mine 20 minutes ago. It’s because of your review young lady. Thank you so much. Good luck in your endeavors. And God Bless.
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 4 жыл бұрын
I am so happy that you found my review informative! If you need any help with the scope, don’t hesitate to message me 😊
@lamx9687
@lamx9687 2 жыл бұрын
i just found this exact thing in the basement and its missing the filters which is very sad but insane cuz i was just looking for budget telescopes before i found it now i have good scope with out spending a single dollar
@alfiel.1213
@alfiel.1213 2 жыл бұрын
Hey where did you get that Blue 🔵 shield 🛡️ ....how much did it cost
@martinainguis1
@martinainguis1 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review , what is the price for the set up have now !
@Miguel_Noppe
@Miguel_Noppe 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, just found your channel (trough the Esprit unboxing vid) i'm a fairly new astrophotographer too, as i just bought my first scope at the end of 2017. I also chose the Skywatcher 10" dob, you can't go wrong with a dob. There's a lot to learn when you first start out, but i'm confident you'll get there. The community of Stargazerslounge was very helpfull for me, maybe you're already on it, if not be sure to check it out (i'm Miguel1983 over there). Keep going and clear skies !
@JenhamsAstro
@JenhamsAstro 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks. Aside from the need to re collimate when it’s moved, how portable do you find it? I assume you carry the OTA and mount separately but even so I’m interested to know if the movement is difficult, moderate or quite easy. I’m undecided between a 10” and an 8”. Clear skies!
@Mike__G
@Mike__G 2 жыл бұрын
i didn’t have issues with portability. The mount would go in the trunk of my Toyota Corolla and the scope would lay across the back seat. It generally held collimation, only needing realignment once in a while. A consideration is that a 10 inch scope is very forgiving.
@LordVulcan93
@LordVulcan93 3 жыл бұрын
I have an opportunity to buy one of these for $300 in great condition. Is it worth it? Optics are clean and in good condition.
@savtheastroguy
@savtheastroguy 3 жыл бұрын
So I bought a classical 10 inch dobsonian and it will arrive in December and I was wondering would I be able to see bright nebula like the orion nebula with my own eyes, no camera? I know it would be colorless but would I be able to see it's form? Same question for globular star clusters, are they visible from this telescope?
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there! Yes indeed. Not similar to something you’d see after a few hours of integration time but Orion, for example, looks like a large purple and pink splotch (dependant on the lens you can make out some detail). You would also be able to see objects like the great globular cluster in Hercules and even the andromeda Galaxy! :D
@savtheastroguy
@savtheastroguy 3 жыл бұрын
@@HelenasAstrophotography Yeyyy, thanks for making this awesome videos and I'm going to sub you right now.
@marvingates3045
@marvingates3045 3 жыл бұрын
Helena, I am trying to find the exact scope that you have. From the reviews and videos including yours, your scope is the best for the price. The one I saw online said F/4.7. Another one I saw said F/5. What does the F/4.7 and F/5 mean? Also, what are your thoughts on looking at deep sky objects with this scope?
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there! F/4.7 and F/5 are also known as the F/ratios. These are the scopes focal length divided by the scopes aperture. To put it into simple terms, the smaller the ratio, the faster the scope collects light but there isn’t that much of a difference between 4.7 and 5.0 :)
@marvingates3045
@marvingates3045 3 жыл бұрын
@@HelenasAstrophotography thanks for the reply.
@Mike__G
@Mike__G 2 жыл бұрын
I spent several years with this scope and saw a good number of DSOs with it. In my opinion,10 inches is the sweet spot between portability and utility. You can easily see all the Messier objects with this scope and many in the NGC catalog including quite faint objects as you become a more skilled observer. One caveat: get thee to a dark site. This scope performs at its best well away from light pollution.
@alanrobinson2229
@alanrobinson2229 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a difference between "P" and "PX"?
@williamferreira5798
@williamferreira5798 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Helena. Is it possible to watch Uranus and Neptune with this 10'' dobsonian ? My interesting is to watch the planets and I have doubt between reflactor ou refractor
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 4 жыл бұрын
I do believe you can watch Uranus and Neptune from a 10”. They are the two farthest away planets in our solar system though, so the bigger the mirror on the dobsonian, the bigger the light gathering power and the more detail you’ll grasp. I’d maybe think about going for a 12” or a 14” but 10” would still be great. It depends what you want to do - whether you want to observe or whether you want to capture images. Hope this helps!
@williamferreira5798
@williamferreira5798 4 жыл бұрын
@@HelenasAstrophotography Thank you. You realy help me.
@phoenixalexander8310
@phoenixalexander8310 4 жыл бұрын
How tall are u... I just wanna compare the size bc I’m 5”10
@HenrikUK
@HenrikUK 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Helena, My 7 (almost 8) year old daughter has shown some interest in astronomy, and we've viewed the phases of Venus through some 20x binoculars, seen Mercury a week or so ago etc. I want to get a telescope, so that we can view planets better (e.g. I'd love to be able to show her the rings of Saturn). As she is quite young, I don't think astro-photography is the way to go just yet - if she is to maintain interest, I think it needs to have some kind of wow-factor, and easily accessible. I've been thinking of an 8" dobsonian, but I thought I'd pick your brain before committing. In your experience, would you say you can make out the rings of Saturn, bands on Jupiter and maybe some features on Mars using your dobsonian (I know it's a 10", but that's realistically too big for us to store at the moment). If the dob is not "good" enough for this kind of visual stuff, then I will look into some more exotic SCTs, MAKs etc, but it feels like a dob might be easier for a child (and me...) to play with initially. I basically don't want to spend close to 500 pounds and then end up with something that isn't interesting enough for an 8-year-old to look through, although I'm sure I would have fun with it myself anyway. Any comments appreciated - Love the channel so far :)
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for the comment! I think you’ve got it in one. She needs to learn the night sky first and roughly where things are (planets and a few stars etc). A dobsonian is perfect for this and I would 100% recommend one. 8” will be grand for planets up to Saturn and you’ll be able to make out faint nebulae such as M42. If you’d like to see the Andromeda galaxy, I’d move to the 10”. It has much more room to grow. If you purchase either, get this lens with it. Absolutely mind blowing for Jupiter - you can even make out the moons! Hope this helps :) amzn.to/2ZLTjrO
@HenrikUK
@HenrikUK 4 жыл бұрын
@@HelenasAstrophotography that's a great answer - thank you very much :)
@jeremy87turbo87
@jeremy87turbo87 2 жыл бұрын
Serious question I am 100% going to buy a 12" dobsonian which brand should I go with or are they virtually all identical
@cpdudeyt
@cpdudeyt Жыл бұрын
I recommend sky watcher or appertura
@timbrown6599
@timbrown6599 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! In my youth, I was interested in this hobby but life distracted me. I'm 66 now. Yesterday I purchased Celestron's 20x80 binocs to see this month's jupiter/saturn event and see what I can see before I dive into a scope. I have been convinced that I wanted to start with a Celestron Nexstar 8se, but having watched AstroBiscuit's videos I am reconsidering. Lots of money on "goto" electronics when you want to see as much as you can. I'm now considering a Dobsonian. My main concern is the difficulty of collimizing the scope. I live in town so I would need to transport in my car to get away from the light pollution for the best views. How big a deal is collimizing? Thanks!
@warsquirt
@warsquirt 3 жыл бұрын
Im not Helena, but I just wanted to let you know that collimating a telescope can sound intimidating, but once done a few times you will quickly get a feel for it. Just like anything in life it just takes a little bit of repetition. You can even buy a laser collimator to make it easier. If you're looking into getting a dobsonian I recommend a 6, 8 or 10 inch. Nothing larger or smaller, anything smaller and you will be disappointed with the views, and nothing larger because it's unnecessarily expensive and the mirrors take way too long to cool down. Having a telescope that is at the ambient temperature of outdoors helps greatly in your views. If possible stand next to each of the sizes and compare the weight of them by lifting each. If you're going to be transporting your telescope I recommend you buy the Orion(Brand) telescopes that are much lighter in weight compared to the offerings from other brands. 6 has a weight of 34 lb 8 has a weight of 42 lb 10 has a weight of 52 lb 52 lb may not sound like much, but these are awkward shaped things to lift. 52lb in a sack of rice sounds easy. 52 lb in a long tube with a base can be very annoying and might discourage an amateur astronomer. Yes you can break it down into two pieces but the weight starts to add up quickly, and any little injury in life can damper our hobby. A simple wrist or back injury might make you take a few months off of astronomy in a 10-in, but maybe in a 6-inch you feel like it's something you can still do through the injury. Keep that in mind also. If you choose an Orion dobsonian, I recommend you purchase their plus model versions. You know they are the plus model because the tubes are painted a blue instead of black. The reason being is that the blue "Plus" models have screws that can be tightened and loosened by hand making collimation even easier and with no tools necessary. They also come with a better focuser, better eyepieces and a few extras. Telescopes look a lot bigger in person than they do on your screen. Keep in mind if it's too big you might not always want to use it because it's going to be a bother to get out and haul around. Then it just becomes an expensive dust collector. You should know that a 6-10in dobsonian all have the same length of optical tube. Which means the focal length drops the bigger you go. When your tube grows in diameter but doesn't get longer the focal length starts to drop and you get something called Coma. Basically it means your view in the eyepiece won't be as sharp and start to blur towards the outside of your view. Collimation is also easier and more forgiving on a longer focal length. The 6 will give you a slightly sharper and crisper image and will be more forgiving of poor collimation. The 8 and then the 10 follow suit, each one getting ever so slightly more difficult to collimate and Coma will increase. For most this isn't a big deal, but it might be for a newcomer. Remember that the telescope itself is only half of the work. You could have a huge expensive telescope but if your eyepiece is of poor quality then it's going to give you the same views as a cheaper telescope with a better eyepiece. This hobby gets very expensive very quickly and you will realize once you have a telescope that you'll want better eyepieces, next thing you know you're going to want some filters and maybe a better finder scope and then you're going to want to buy books and a comfortable chair. One last thing to keep in mind, most 6in dobsonians will come with a plastic focuser and starting at 8 will come with a metal focuser which is of much better quality. Whatever you decide I'm sure you'll be happy with, if you have poor eyesight I recommend you go with an 8-in or larger as more light will help you see better. There's a reason the 8 is recommended as the best beginners telescope, it really hits a sweet spot with lots of different needs and want. Just like no two people are alike and not everyone likes the same toppings on their Pizza. A telescope is really more of a personal preference. One telescope might be loved by most but that doesn't make it for everyone. Only you know what you want to spend, how serious you are, how strong you are, how healthy you are as well as committed to this. I'm only saying this because a lot of people quit astronomy after a few months, especially if it's not something that comes easy to them or it becomes bothersome and they feel unimpressed with the sights. Many people spend lots of money on a telescope just to finally look at something and think, I spent all that money for this?! You're not going to be seeing anything truly amazing unless you're in very dark skies and have really good eyepieces. Be careful because it starts to add up, and we'll get very expensive before you know it. Unless you have several thousand to spend, in which case, buy a huge telescope with great filters then you can just sit back and relax from your own backyard with a cigar, while others have to go on to mountains in the pitch black of night just to get a good view out of their smaller scopes. Good luck and God bless.
@timbrown6599
@timbrown6599 3 жыл бұрын
@@warsquirt Thanks for all the input...it is deeply appreciated. I had been thinking of a 12" dobsonian but will take your advice into consideration. I would expect (at this time at least) to be storing it in the garage when not in use so temp changes wouldn't be a real factor as I understand it. I have a 7 passenger van it will fit in with the rear seats down. But still, I'll keep what you said in mind. When I was convinced I'd be getting a Celstron 8se, that set my expectations at $1200 or so for starters. It would be good to see a video comparing and contrasting the 10 and 12" dobsonians. I've yet to find one. Today I received my smartphone mount for the binoculars (20x80 celestrons) that are expected soon. I have a 35mm tripod that should work. I'll see what I can see and photograph from there, get used to the various skyfinder apps out there. Again, thanks. I will be (re)reading your advice to make sure it all sinks in!
@warsquirt
@warsquirt 3 жыл бұрын
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@warsquirt
@warsquirt 3 жыл бұрын
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@warsquirt
@warsquirt 3 жыл бұрын
@@timbrown6599 Happy to help, Sounds to me like you are pretty serious about this, so I recommend you get a 10in or above just so you won't be disappointed with the views. 10in weighs 30lb for the tube and 23lb for the base, for a total of 53lb. 12in weighs 50lb for the tube and 33lb for the base, for a total of 83lb. Keep in mind the weight I'm giving you is for the lighter weight Orion telescopes. Other brands usually add somewhere between 10 and 20 lb to those totals. The 10in is considered large by most, but its really more the last step in the category of what I would call medium sized dobs, because it fits laying down in the backseat of most any car. The 12-in will not fit in any vehicle's back seat and requires a Van, SUV or Truck. The two compared have a very different height of the eyepiece. The 10in requires a chair for extended viewing because the eyepiece is lower than eye level, and the 12 almost always requires you to stand up because the eyepiece will be at eye level, unless you buy a tall chair. Both are great scopes. Either will suit your needs. Both are pretty much what you call a "lifetime" scope. It's usually only under 10in of aperture that people ever upgrade their scope to something larger. Ease of use and practicality are not factors to be taken lightly though. Tracking distant sky objects and moving the telescope all night in cold temperatures is much easier on a 10. You can get the hang of it all on the 10, and then if you truly want something bigger you might even consider something like a 14 or a 16 if you're still that serious later on. There is a reason the 12 is so often nicknamed the "water heater". Many a people's backs it has injured. But if you have a partner to always help you then the 12 isn't too big a deal. 12 and up is where a partner really becomes helpful only when transporting, so long as that partner is happy to help. But in defense of the 12, some people really like the height of the eyepiece being at eye level. If you're a bigger person height and weight-wise the 12-in might just be for you. If the scope is going to be staying at home, then the 12 won't be much of a bother, you can just put it on some rolling wheels and wheel it around. The 12 will give you slightly better views but nothing dramatic. If you're going to be traveling, and if most of it is going to be by yourself, I recommend the 10. And if you permit me to take your age into consideration which my dad's just a little bit older than you, but still a strong man for his age. I would feel comfortable with him handling a 10in and under, but not the 12, especially if you have to park your vehicle somewhere and carry that tube a good distance up hills or a rocky path. The best telescope is the one you see yourself using more often. Whichever one you pick, enjoy. Hope it helps, if I find any more good comparison videos I'll send them to you.
@neilgillmore
@neilgillmore 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see young people getting into Astronomy. How did you get into it Helena? And can we see some of your photo's please ?
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 4 жыл бұрын
It all started from a school project I did when I was 7! Check out my Q&A video. Yes of course. I need to do an update on photographs very soon. Clouds aren’t leaving just yet though!
@neilgillmore
@neilgillmore 4 жыл бұрын
@@HelenasAstrophotography Nice... I remember my first telescope a reasonable'sh 3" refractor Tasco it was... Seemed like we had 3 months of cloud after I got it lol. I really sympathise with you on that issue lol
@junkfoodjunkie1
@junkfoodjunkie1 3 жыл бұрын
how tall is the telescope?
@bluelineaviation7122
@bluelineaviation7122 4 жыл бұрын
I am thinking about getting this. How much do the base and optical tube assembly weigh?
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 4 жыл бұрын
Check out my link in the description! You should get all of the specs there. Very, very good amateur telescope that produces some stunning results for visual and photographic.
@bluelineaviation7122
@bluelineaviation7122 4 жыл бұрын
Helena's Astrophotography wow I did not expect a reply that fast! Wow!
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a pleasure to help out! Did it help?
@bluelineaviation7122
@bluelineaviation7122 4 жыл бұрын
Helena's Astrophotography yes found out that it weighs 70 lbs and comes in 2 parts I might get it. Thank you!
@mahmoodulhassan7275
@mahmoodulhassan7275 Жыл бұрын
I am new to this field. But I have been studying astronomy. I want to buy my first brand new telescope. I am interested in Dobsonian telescope. The person whom I'm buying the telescope from has given me two options . Meade flexible Dobsonian 10 inches (726$) or 12 inches(1050$) or SkyWatcher flexible Dobsonian 10 inches (750$) You are a very professional person so could you please advice me on which is the better telescope. Very Kind.
@tsvetanpanov191
@tsvetanpanov191 5 жыл бұрын
Your winsome smile and charm lit up the place, I'm glad to see a young person being so passionate and excited about the stars! Keep on the good work and I promise you will come across extraordinary things that are yet to be revealed here on Earth! Always keep an opend mind and question everything you see and hear. High five fellow teammate!
@davysmith8759
@davysmith8759 4 жыл бұрын
Have you tried to look at things outside the solar system such Andromeda, the Milky Way, or other things such as nebulas?
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 4 жыл бұрын
With the Dobsonian, yes, I have photographed M42 (The Orion Nebula) however because the Dob isn’t a tracking telescope you can’t take long exposure images - this is where my new equipment comes in. I’m grasping the software and the alignment processes for my new equipment now which means I should be able to make it out on the next clear night.
@davysmith8759
@davysmith8759 4 жыл бұрын
Helena's Astrophotography Ok cool! Thanks! I want to start with just observational astronomy first before I move into astrophotography, which is my goal. I want to start with just finding the objects and focusing the image before I empty my wallet and buy the photography equipment. Maybe one day I’ll be as good at this as you or Astrobackyard haha.
@Stephen-gp8yi
@Stephen-gp8yi Жыл бұрын
What’s the difference between the classic and the skyliner?
@ulisessolis3182
@ulisessolis3182 Жыл бұрын
I think it's the same telescope, it's just how it's named depending on the country
@user-km1gq3qj8r
@user-km1gq3qj8r 3 жыл бұрын
What second mean?
@waynegarrett1614
@waynegarrett1614 2 жыл бұрын
can you move it on your own?
@MysteryMan101
@MysteryMan101 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Helena i want a telescope to view dso’s , so would a 12 inch dob worth buying for that purpose?
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 4 жыл бұрын
Hello! If it’s just for observing rather than photography, I would highly recommend a dob. 10 inch would be great but 12 inch would capture more detail. The reason I recommend these scopes is due to their deep focal length! Viewing the planets with this monster is ace. I’m going to send a link to an eyepiece you should consider purchasing with it, gives awesome views of planets but not only that, eases out detail on their moons as well! Enjoy it and let me know how you get on. You can obviously get computerised ones as well if you were looking to track them for imaging but that’s a whole other ball game. Here is the link to the eyepiece: amzn.to/3hKcXLm
@MysteryMan101
@MysteryMan101 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a quick reply Helena..Actually my prime target will be dso’s this time and i heard many people say 12 inch is minimum size to be in serious astronomy like dso’s..I already have a small telescope and couple of binoculars for planets and viewing other stuff like constellations..So this time i want something to last me for a lifetime as my previous scope shows me nothing more than some planets, moon ,m42 and few good stars and now i want to see more but it has it’s limitation.. So would you suggest me a 12 inch over 10 inch for that purpose .. Before i was confused between 12 and 16 inch but sheer size of 16 put me off from buying it..12 inch is not big for me and i can lift it and handle it pretty easily plus it fits my budget easily compared to 16 inch..So what is your view if you want to suggest me one?
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 4 жыл бұрын
Right got you! So with a dob and visual, you aren’t going to get the same results looking at deep sky objects as you would if you wanted to photograph them. However, through my 10 inch dob, I am able to see the faint fuzz of Andromeda and M42. Not as clear as photos you see though so bear that in mind! In order to get big, bright results, you must shoot long exposures. But yes, a 12 inch will be a little bigger than mine but not too hard to carry about. If you’d like it to last you a while, I would recommend getting a tracking dob. This way, if you want to see objects in their full light, you can by taking photos. Don’t worry about that though if you are certain you only want to do visual 🙂
@MysteryMan101
@MysteryMan101 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for writing to me again. I would like to get a 12 inch tracking one but then it becomes even more expensive than a 16 inch and a lot heavier in weight too. What about 12 inch manual tube dob is the one i was looking for as it sounds best bet at a decent price?
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good decision! Only reason I suggested tracking is the results you’ll get. Dobs perform better for planetary visual than deep sky visual but you’ll still get some awesome results. Hope that helps!
@bopapa_1979
@bopapa_1979 9 ай бұрын
Helena, you are just the absolute best. Me and the kids love you to death.
@davidbridges3292
@davidbridges3292 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there 🙂. How long after you observe the moon with that light bucket of yours before you can see anything ??? Perhaps you should caution your followers in regards being blinded ....😵😜
@stevelafrance32
@stevelafrance32 3 жыл бұрын
10" I wish
@MG-mm5fh
@MG-mm5fh 2 жыл бұрын
Can anyone confirm that you can see Uranus and Neptune through this scope?
@cpdudeyt
@cpdudeyt Жыл бұрын
Ofcourse Uranus or Neptune you need atleast a 60mm scope but for pluto you need a big scope like then 8 or 10 or 12 inch
@MajorBorris
@MajorBorris 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the Apertura A8 is hands down the the starter scope deal no one can beat.....show a better deal please!
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Christian. Thank you for this! I was just starting as I made that review so was the only scope I had and wanted to shed my opinion on it. In the future, I will have the chance the review other scopes, so stay tuned :)
@MajorBorris
@MajorBorris 4 жыл бұрын
@@HelenasAstrophotography oh hi there Helena, I guess I didn't mean for you to show me specifically I'm just an amateur 2. But if you did any comparisons I would check it out. For reference I have a Orion xt10i with explore scientific 82° eyepieces in the 4.7 8.8 14 and 24 mm range and adjustable chair and a laser that I mounted onto the OTA additionally. It's just my guess but comparing the 8in dobsonian to a 10 in dobsonian would mostly come down to portability. My next scope will probably be an apo triplet refractor in the 80 to 127 mm range with a go to mount and a camera. If I could do it all over again I would probably start with the eight and then an upgrade to a 12in might be more doable but much less portable. After some years of use I'm starting to realize where eye relief and magnification start to matter for instance my 4.7 mm isn't always usable due to seeing conditions but the 82° field of view is helpful and some might appreciate the long eye relief version at these magnifications(255x) as well. for the record I'm fine with the regular version. a dual speed focuser would also be a fine addition at higher magnifications. Things that I totally didn't get at first were true fields View and the arc minutes or the size of objects in the sky so how big the circle in the eyepiece is in relation to the object I'm viewing additionally exit pupil as related to a person's age and once again magnifications when they get higher for planetary having that high true field-of-view view is helpful to not push the dobsonian around so much .....maybeI would have got more bang for buck getting the 6.7 mm instead of the 4.7 mm as my 8.8 almost always shows a crisp View and the 4.7 is a little bit bigger and pretty sweet when the seeing is perfect but I wanted a bigger bang that gets used less I guess. I also messed up collimation a few times by doing the secondary before the primary mirror. okay that's a lot of texts but I guess if someone like you was showing the beginner dobsonian owner the things that takes a few years to figure out in a simple way a lot of newbies would like it. oh okay I see you got a 120 Ed added to your kit now we're cooking with gas. pretty much what I was thinking. P..S. girls and science are cool!
@psycho6713
@psycho6713 3 жыл бұрын
Can you see uranus and neptune through this telescope?
@PrayForSoul
@PrayForSoul 3 жыл бұрын
Yep absolutely, under bortle5-6 where I live, saw cassini division with a bresser 8inch dob
@commediaDollArte
@commediaDollArte 4 жыл бұрын
How is it for looking at stars and constellations?
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! So because of its large focal length (1200mm) the field of view is quite narrow and therefore it is best at planetary and lunar observing. Stars are perfect though and with a wide field eyepiece you should be able to see parts of constellations - maybe even full ones if they are small. Hope this helps!
@commediaDollArte
@commediaDollArte 4 жыл бұрын
@@HelenasAstrophotography Thank you for getting back to me! Would the 8" one be better? I'd like to look at dim constellations such as Cancer, as well as clusters such as the Praesepe (Beehive) Cluster and Messier Objects such as the Whirlpool Galaxy and the Eagle Nebula in Serpens. I know that Messier Objects won't have colour via observation, but what would you recommend for observing those things?
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 4 жыл бұрын
Well if you’d like to observe galaxies as well as constellations, the galaxies are going to come up super small in the fov because it’ll be filled with the constellation. For galaxies the 10 inch dob would be great but for constellations I think you’ll be looking along the lines of the 8” yes. Does this make sense?
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 4 жыл бұрын
Hold on! I’ve just checked my fov simulator. Yes, the 10” would be grand for constellations. Check the link in my description for the best deal on the product.
@commediaDollArte
@commediaDollArte 4 жыл бұрын
@@HelenasAstrophotography Brilliant! Thank you so much!
@GarnettLeary
@GarnettLeary 4 жыл бұрын
Drop a webcam in that monster and get some planets. That’s totally not beyond it’s capability. Skywatcher is an awesome brand. That scope has an impressive mirror. Great review. Look forward to the next.
@3ccdmike
@3ccdmike 3 жыл бұрын
There's no place like dome !
@omb6488
@omb6488 4 жыл бұрын
Veruca salt
@patterdalezipsuzilil
@patterdalezipsuzilil 5 жыл бұрын
Get a dual speed focuser on it
@Toogoodtobetrue458
@Toogoodtobetrue458 5 жыл бұрын
erics vids I need a dual focuser for those fine micro adjustments
@spa5e
@spa5e 4 жыл бұрын
Cute😅
@propfella
@propfella 4 жыл бұрын
Please Helena the Em's get a bit much almost every third word is an Emm, at one stage Try to relax and speak normally and not in the monotone manner. There's no race to finish first , I love the little observatory. I'm thinking of buying one of these scopes, but my only problem is I'm 71 and not able to carry such a monster to the garden whenever I want to use it. Being in Australia the sunshine would ruin the scope very quickly, How hard is it to move? Obviousky you don't have to, but can your actually lift it? The one I'm looking at is the Sky-Watcher 10" f/4.7
@HelenasAstrophotography
@HelenasAstrophotography 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for getting in touch. This is one of my earlier videos and I like to think that I have improved regarding my presentation. Thank you for the feedback though. The 10” Dob comes in two parts: the scope itself, and the stand. The stand comes with a handle to carry so it’s relatively easy to lift and the Dob is awkward but surprising light. If you were to get the Dob I’d recommend looking at carrier cases for it (not the stand) as that might help with transporting it. It’s a great starter scope and I love it. I had to move it about quite a lot when we were making the observatory water tight and I did that without any issue. Hope this helps and clear skies.
@barlow2976
@barlow2976 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with her presentation, the Scots do a fair bit of emming in everyday speech, totally normal and doesn't bother me. I bet as an Australian you have an annoying uplift at the end of your sentences, which we in the U.K don't like. I thought it was a great video, everything well explained, thanks.
@notation254
@notation254 2 жыл бұрын
You're selling me on the 10"! It's either 8" or 10".....
@cpdudeyt
@cpdudeyt Жыл бұрын
Even the 8 inch Is for advanced...
@felipe11745
@felipe11745 Жыл бұрын
No entiendo nada ❤❤😘😘
@hooper365
@hooper365 Жыл бұрын
It looks like you got a whole observatory going on much luck in your views
@michaellawler3016
@michaellawler3016 5 ай бұрын
Stop saying Awsome
@00Regista
@00Regista 2 ай бұрын
AWESOME
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