The Best BMW E46 Rear Subframe Reinforcement?! Part 1

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6 жыл бұрын

In this video I begin to address one of the most crucial weak points of the e46 chassis, the rear subframe mounting points. The chassis is known to crack due to excessive flex and lack of strength in the rear floor and there are a few methods used to address this issue. The Vince Bar seems to be a promising way to eliminate this issue by tying in various components of the rear chassis and strengthening the subframe mounting points. This video focuses on an overview of the kit as well as the prep work to install the kit.
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@ericroske5161 6 жыл бұрын

This channel makes me want to work on my e46. Keep it up!

@BurrNinja 6 жыл бұрын

YAY new video!!!!!!!!! was waiting, you finally uploaded. Thanks for the content!

@daviddaniels6645 6 жыл бұрын

Finally a new video! I got a 93 325is coupe project because of your vids. You inspire!

@boxpimp 6 жыл бұрын

I've got the same kit (welded) with a mason rear x brace and reddish plates and all akg poly bushings in my M3. did the whole thing over the course of a week. Vince is awesome and offered lots of advice and support

@andyor3114 5 жыл бұрын

Jason Bover is mason x brace alone not enough?

@mrphiscal 6 жыл бұрын

Glad your back

@2009kdt 6 жыл бұрын

Yes!! You are back! :)

@rond3367 6 жыл бұрын

You kids rock if I was in Cali def bring my car to you guys. Big fan of the work y'all put in. Much success

@Joel.Invictus 6 жыл бұрын

Good stuff. I look forward to the follow up.

@erikruiz681 6 жыл бұрын

Great video keep up the good work

@ziaantaljaard7760 6 жыл бұрын

Yeahhhyyyy finalyyy a new vid😍👌

@HeritageCarStyle 6 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to do this in my M3 ! subbed

@betterwatchsaul3597 6 жыл бұрын

Perfect just the video I needed

@NicholasZak 6 жыл бұрын

i would always weld over epoxy any day! especially to strengthen and tie in the read Sub frame issue

@samsaasen4922 4 жыл бұрын

Smooth is Fast! Do it then. That’s why both options are offered. Not everyone owns a welder or has experience

@pack-a-punched2404 6 жыл бұрын

Been lookin for a video about this

@justin6604 6 жыл бұрын

very cool. different from other subframe reinf ive seen. interesting video!!

@markt9438 6 жыл бұрын

Nice Job !

@jhoyn001 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! First one I've seen for a thorough look at the VinceBar install. When do you guys plan on posting a follow up video on ShopLifeTV?

@reapersmagfed1837 6 жыл бұрын

Sometime to get more clearance you can use a socket and an extension with you tape set up.

@RY3ER_ 5 жыл бұрын

Hey, Selena - thanks for filming this, gives me a closer look at what I'll have to be dealing with ! I'm going for a 330cd and it'll get remapped to 300bhp for starters, so lots of torque (around 500lbs-ft) and I'm kind of worried the car's RACP panel won't handle it without any sophisticated bracing/reinforcing, Redish plates+ CMP bar with fronts or Vince bar with fronts/ Mason Engineering's X-brace and etc. Have you inspected the car recently for any new cracks that might have appeared elsewhere or any side-effects from the bracing ? Would appreciate any feedback, thanks ! :)

@sasngang 6 жыл бұрын

Selena, any news on where to purchase this kit? We need to make this repair soon. Thanks for the great content...

@chrislangdell117 2 жыл бұрын

Cool project. Some advice for you. Before you try to drill out spot welds. Like your seat bracket. Use a center punch to mark the center of the hole. It also keeps your drill bit or spot weld cutter from walking all over and slipping out of the center. Next before you start sanding and grinding the paint for your epoxy. You want to use acetone or brake cleaner to clean up all the spray lubricant you used while drilling metal. If not your surface will be contaminated with oil and nothing will bond to your bare metal no matter how much you sand.

@DiecastShowCustoms 6 жыл бұрын

*very cool*

@eduardosandoval3514 6 жыл бұрын

I love your attitude and your smile, but I love the BMW more. 😊

@BMWselena 6 жыл бұрын

Me too lmao

@javierl.5097 5 жыл бұрын

Do you have a link for this kit...i might need to reinforce my subframe...great video

@PRAGEETHKARUNADHEERA 6 жыл бұрын

I think you should have tapped from bottom to top, so that newly tapped threads properly align with old thread.

@redlinepaul410 6 жыл бұрын

U could of use a angle bar 4x6x3/8 where the cross brace and welded a 2 inch round tube on the strut towers and tie it all together with round tube to the button angle bar to get better resolutes and yes a little more work to do it. No body flex using angle bar and round tube.

@stylerunner2959 6 жыл бұрын

Would this eliminate the need to using plates in the rear and prevent prior cracks from spreading? Just curious on your thought

@johnDe5tr0yer 6 жыл бұрын

What is the brand of the strut bar? If you may, please include the info in the description in the future :)

@charlesdefrancisco5056 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Jason...I think that’s your name..but anyway ..several wagon tool sales have a inexpensive set of sockets that will drive all tap sizes using a 3/8 ratchet.....really works great for just what you were doing

@emmanuelsoto7216 6 жыл бұрын

Love that shirt. Do you have it available for sale?

@mromagachi5194 6 жыл бұрын

Missssss youuuuuuuu :))))

@howardryan64 6 жыл бұрын

Where did you buy the kit from? can you share a link to the sales web page?

@1975pagan 6 жыл бұрын

Nice

@javierl.5097 6 жыл бұрын

Where can i get the same reinforced kit

@wjohnsonism 6 жыл бұрын

Wow, there's a BMW logo on back seat sound deadening ? Did not know that.

@TonyRomeNewMoney 3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure this kit does a great job of preventing cracks, but there's just too much hacking up of the car. I will do it IF my car develops cracks. For now, it just the subframe reinforcement brackets and shock tower brace.

@josevv2620 6 жыл бұрын

I so wish you guys put a ls in a wagon

@zacharyclement8100 7 ай бұрын

Where is this Vince Bar available too be purchased??

@THENUBANDIT 6 жыл бұрын

We has to reinforce the rear as well. We made our our reinforced brackets and welded them in. I would also recommend you do an m3 diff. If you haven't already. Great videos tho, keep it up.

@BMWselena 6 жыл бұрын

Yea I am putting in a m3 diff but thank you :)

@ismetinanccc 6 жыл бұрын

love you

@_chow17 5 жыл бұрын

Where can You get the VinceBar from

@eugeneowens82 5 жыл бұрын

Hey just a quick question. Can you post site for ordering Vince bar.

@zacharypowell5574 6 жыл бұрын

Just out of curiosity how much would it cost to have a shop say shop life tv, do this swap?

@juicewrldclips6523 8 ай бұрын

Where do I get this Vince bar???

@mariogonzalez8825 6 жыл бұрын

Then I better check mine, I have a 2005 E46 and I’m concerned since I do hear a clunk sometimes. However, this clunky sound comes from the right front when I move forward or in reverse but not always. Thanks for the heads up!

@thepincushionman7063 5 жыл бұрын

Dude get your lollipops replaced and check your subframe.

@davidramez6219 6 жыл бұрын

Part 2 part 2 part 2 part 2..... :)

@bimmer46projects34 Жыл бұрын

Can you pls send me link where can i get this kit?

@armandohilario 4 жыл бұрын

I need help I have BMW X5 2002 3.0 E53 I don’t have pressure on rear brake I change brake hose bleeding the system i change the abs control module and nothing just i have pressure on front brake

@mikaelt3241 6 жыл бұрын

"Bilar"(Cars) best candy ever

@sharkk001 6 жыл бұрын

great video. By the way what part of cali are you guys located?

@BMWselena 6 жыл бұрын

thank you and Alhambra, CA

@Joe-nx7nj 6 жыл бұрын

How much would you charge to do this to my m3.. I am in san Diego.

@ronvelasco9530 3 жыл бұрын

i think mig welding those metals that you cut to make it stronger, and weld those plates instead of rivets and epoxy...

@Mercmad 6 жыл бұрын

I hope you bought a quality rivet gun. Nothing worse than fighting with chicom crap in the middle of a job.

@l34052 5 жыл бұрын

If I was going to all this trouble I'd weld it, that way it's guaranteed not to fail.

@realisrealite5554 5 жыл бұрын

just dont buy a defective from a deceptive company.

@mariogonzalez8825 6 жыл бұрын

I’m just wondering, did BMW reinforce this area in later E46 models? I think only early models had this subframe problem right? Please let me know if this is correct. Awesome video!

@BMWselena 6 жыл бұрын

No they did not

@apodski 4 жыл бұрын

They only put foam in them, which helps, but is far from the comprehensive solution of this. The 330s can break with the foam, but it isn't all that common, depends how well the driveline has been maintained, probably wheel size and suspension stiffness. I have a 175k, 99 328i, it only had one tiny crack.

@joeboxer5106 Жыл бұрын

Would never let this dude touch my car 😂

@TheOpenAirGarage 6 жыл бұрын

This kit is pretty comprehensive.

@tunerballs28 5 жыл бұрын

Where can i get that kit

@tuanas458 16 күн бұрын

wait, you were seriously able to cut that sheet metal with that small dremel? LOL.

@zerotohero7449 6 жыл бұрын

Where did you buy that shirt? I want one

@azizrahman2 6 жыл бұрын

Love your videos, you forgot to give your shout out.

@IIIrandomIII 5 жыл бұрын

17:52 oh my gosh 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@rbmwiv Жыл бұрын

Tip for next time you use a tap is find a socket that fits it and use your rachet.

@750foo2 6 жыл бұрын

Tutorial on the suede???

@rnotah5748 6 жыл бұрын

There my baby

@soundseeker63 5 жыл бұрын

This is making me sure glad I chose an E39 and not an E46!.....not sure I could be bothered with all this work just to make the chassis stay in on piece! lol she must really love her car.

@edgardomartin4292 6 жыл бұрын

How we can get this kit reinforcement rear subframe BMW E46?

@realisrealite5554 5 жыл бұрын

The real question is why did Bmw sell a vehicle that they knew had a weak subframe?A weak subframe and the s54 inferior rod bearings would've surfaced during testing.The fact that they sold defective vehicles leads me to believe they dont test their vehicles or they do test knew about the problems and unloaded junk on their customers.

@Flow-it8qe 4 жыл бұрын

build it😂

@rubencordoba379 6 жыл бұрын

Donde puedo pedir esa barra???

@ghostvardy6693 6 жыл бұрын

will i need this if i already have a roll cage in my e46? welded bar across the rear strut mounts.

@BMWselena 6 жыл бұрын

yes because the failure point is at the subframe mounting points

@ghostvardy6693 6 жыл бұрын

can you send me the link to purchase it, im doing an ls swap on an 05 e46 325ci body.

@De3toto89 6 жыл бұрын

Where did you buy your kit?

@075browar 5 жыл бұрын

www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?18871-VinceBar-Sub-Frame-Reinforcement-Kit!

@emanueladamache7034 6 жыл бұрын

Didn't BMW do a recall on the e46s and did the structural foam?

@DailyELI5 5 жыл бұрын

A year late, but not really, they settled a class action lawsuit by saying they would inspect and fix affected cars (within 1 year of the settlement date), it prevented the need for a true recall. They did repair it with a mix of metal weld ins and structural foam.

@TheProjectDprojectd 5 жыл бұрын

🙌👏👏👏👏👏👏

@fcknhellmate 6 жыл бұрын

Where have you bought your tshirt ? Also good to have you back at youtube ;)

@greatpix 6 жыл бұрын

Instead of cutting it out for good couldn't you have notched and then rolled the edge behind the tire compartment also? I'm no expert but I figure that way you could get a better fit.

@younginfamou6053 4 жыл бұрын

Yo can you do a video on ur interior? Like the headliner n stuff?

@michaelhall9138 6 жыл бұрын

A girl working on a car wearing nail varnish... 👍🏼👍🏼

@nathanchalecki4842 6 жыл бұрын

Lol worst spotweld driller everrrrrr

@Giggidygiggidy12 6 жыл бұрын

E53 3.0i best BMW ever built after this quality went way down

@samsaasen4922 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah and the cayenne is the best Porsche ever built😂

@k24accord73 6 жыл бұрын

I had a jetta at one point...german...got rid of that thing

@sergiufilipescu5821 6 жыл бұрын

💖💖💖💕💔💔💔💓💓💓💋💋💋

@jewllake 6 жыл бұрын

invisalign??? Selena, you already look perfect :)

@Chuckjohn12 6 жыл бұрын

what about a coupe

@andyor3114 5 жыл бұрын

Chuckjohn12 I think mason x brace is better. At least for coupe. I need one for my m3

@TheJakeHam 6 жыл бұрын

Bilar is cars You got car candy

@drakrc15 6 жыл бұрын

See you didn't need help with the spare tire this time lol

@BMWselena 6 жыл бұрын

hahaha you remembered lol

@joelsattentiontodetail665 6 жыл бұрын

Why the candy was there lol?

@summicron90 6 жыл бұрын

Joel, Its just attention to detail! A lot of retailers are doing that now to show customer appreciation.

@emilepapillon2275 2 жыл бұрын

All this to save trunk space? Mason X-brace FTW. Get the groceries with the beater, not the bimmer.

@nathanchalecki4842 6 жыл бұрын

Lol glad ya gave up with the tiny grinder

@BMWselena 6 жыл бұрын

we didn't lol it is still needed you don't want to cut the back section by accident

@thepincushionman7063 5 жыл бұрын

Different strokes for different folks

@fakiirification 5 жыл бұрын

why would you epoxy when you can get a welder at harbor freight for like 200 bucks? Weld that shit brah. its not rocket surgery.

@MrJdubbya36 4 жыл бұрын

Mind posting the VIN of this car so nobody ever buys it?!

@Birdhouseboi810 Жыл бұрын

Epoxy and rivets are not the way to go.

@mlsmithjr 5 жыл бұрын

This is definitely not as DIY-friendly as using welded reinforcement plates. Way too much metal cutting, drilling, tapping.

@realisrealite5554 5 жыл бұрын

Reinforce your brains for thinking Bmw is a good company.I've never seen so many people happily buy defective cars and love them.If you didn't know about the subframe failure or the rod bearing failures apologies,but if you knew I have a fountain of youth.

@jayycorona4387 6 жыл бұрын

give me a shout out 😉

@callumpreston3013 4 жыл бұрын

Your making a mess of that

@LauS0 6 жыл бұрын

you should learn how to weld

@BMWselena 6 жыл бұрын

there's two types of kits weld and epoxy. A lot of people prefer epoxy since it has a greater contact patch and it puts less heat stress and potential warpage.

@samking4179 6 жыл бұрын

Selena are you located in North Carolina and Jason is in California? Great video on the Vince Bar. I think a lot of people were waiting for someone to do a video on the install. Thanks!!

@liviu7017 5 жыл бұрын

so many holes driled to your car selena...must be a hint from that guy ;)

@martinkenyon7640 2 жыл бұрын

quality of the work in appalling lol

@A46648 6 жыл бұрын

My Subframe was cracked i put some mud on it and sold the car..Life is to short to do all this work... new bmw are bullshit never going to buy a bmw again plastic engine parts with all that heat and oil come on bmw

@petarpetrovic8744 6 жыл бұрын

Much cheaper and much more reliable is to buy another E46 in good condition. I'm not sure how safe and reliable a car with a cracked subframe can be at all to put this much work in it.

@BMWselena 6 жыл бұрын

My subframe isn't cracked this is to prevent it from happening. Especially with the added power the LS will bring

@petarpetrovic8744 6 жыл бұрын

It makes sense :-) I'm curious though, why you don't like the restyle version, it is so much better in terms of build quality. Or is it just me :-)

@thepincushionman7063 5 жыл бұрын

Cracked subframe is common problem with e46. Many have been repaired. I had all my e46's reinforced before any cracks started. It's a must if you abuse them.