I made this when I was younger with less experience and less of a grip on how rally actually works, but I've got a better understanding now. Most of the listings I found for this video I pulled off craigslist or facebook marketplace, which are great resources for used cars if you know how to spot scams and money pits. If you want to get involved in ARA (American Rally Association), you need a car that fits their regulations, including all the safety equipment. Retrofitting a street car to meet ARA certification is going to cost $15-$30k when you factor in seats, harnesses, roll cage, fire suppression, etc. Most people get into stage rally by picking up a used rally car that's already been modified to meet the ARA rules (or a previous version of the ARA rules). The best sites I've seen to find used rally cars are www.specialstage.com/forums/rally-cars-for-sale.84/ and rallyanarchy.com/phorum/list.php?7. ARA is a great ruleset that runs on a lot of awesome stages all throughout the country, but it is a serious financial commitment. The cheapest way to get into rally is to find a rallycross organizer close to where you live and participate in some local rallycross. All you need is a street legal car, a driver's license, a helmet (but you can usually borrow one), and enough money to pay for registration (no more than $70). Any of the cars I mentioned in this video would be well suited to rallycross, and you could pretty feasibly pick one up and start running it. My buddy Nick and I actually have been taking the 2006 Civic featured in the thumbnail out to our local rallycross and it's been awesome, here's a video we made about our first experience: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iaePnLyrl6nQf2g.html We should have another video out that goes into more detail on how to get involved, but it's pretty straightforward. If you have any other questions, feel free to respond to this comment.

3 years later and still replies within 24 hours. Amazing !

@@jeff34566 I try to keep up with everything, even my old content, I hope you stick around and enjoy what I put out!

@@carpartsandexhaustfarts you sir have a life long subscriber

Thank you for the honest feedback! I'm glad you enjoyed my more creative options!

Thanks! Yeah this video took a lot of research, most of it was surfing craigslist honestly. I'm glad you hear you consider it reputable!

Thank you! No worries :)

Thanks man, appreciate the love!

Correct

Honda Fit is supreme. One of the quickest guys at the RX I compete in drives a Fit. Excellent value for money these days.

I feel that any option is viable with enough determination. The juke does have a higher center of gravity and it might not be the easiest to support but it's not the worst option in that class I can think of. I won't say it's a good call, but I don't think it would be undoable either.

Also a noob so don't worry about it. I think the first thing you should think about is protection/maintenance. Make sure your brakes, engine, trans, suspension, etc can handle the type of driving you're trying to do, even if all those parts are stock. Then, look into metal underbody panels, mudflaps, and other protective pieces to ensure you're not gonna do a ton of damage when driving. If you go into some actual rally competition, they'll have very clear guidelines for how you should set up your car.

That's awesome, you're lucky

I plan on it.

Can’t wait to see what cars are on the drift list. 😊

350z and G35 lmao the go too. But I’d recommend it it’s reliable as long as you watch oil level

Any mid 2000s bmw you can still find them relative cheap price, finding parts and community are easy

Can't go wrong with them

What model year exactly?

E100 chassis @@ammarisrar2005

Compact size and style points. In reality a coupe is just as viable and bigger wagons/hatchbacks aren't actually going to offer any benefits over say a sedan.

What a shame, I really wanna get my hands on one some day. I feel for you, what a tragic loss.

I agree my dude, but there aren't any events that are close to us. You should see me in George's 4 x 4 though, I rip it up.

Hit me up when you join an event. I'd like to see that

@@djsweaty2890 I will as soon as I can, I'm hoping I can get into the some small rallies in the coming years but we'll see. Illinois doesn't really have much that I can find, so it'll have to be in either Missouri or Indiana where they actually hold events. Plus I need a car that I'm willing to destroy, but obviously they're out there.

Car Parts and Exhaust Farts what events you they have in Indiana I live in Sullivan country and I want to try it

@@failfail715 Mostly just smaller local rally cross events. Unfortunately, they don't have any big stuff like the 100 Acre Woods Rally, which really sucks. I can't point you towards anything directly, but keep your eyes open.

If it can work, make it work lol

@@carpartsandexhaustfarts yeah no Hyundai did pretty go with the tiburon in rally stages, and currently with their new hatchback rally cars they been killing it on the podium 👀.

@@ThatBustedVQ Hyundai is one of those companies that I think gets sidelined way too often, I think they're got some good stuff going for them and some real potential.

@@carpartsandexhaustfarts yeah they really are growing much like Japanese companies started out as cheap cars people would laugh at. Especially with former bmw M division executive working for them now. They really stepped up the styling and performance with the N lineup, genesis, and now they are working on a mid engine sports car. Really come a long way from the early 2000s

A good option, I just couldn't find any for a good price in my area. They are still quite well known, and as such they do have a bit more demand than you might expect, so prices can be unpredictable. Certainly a great call, I just didn't include it specifically.

That was a Peugeot 206 but yes indeed the driver was VERY close to not surviving but he did and got to thank god for that

Sure you could, but there are a number of factors to consider. Could you slap some knobby tires on and rip it down some dirt roads? Sure. Could you do that safely? Probably not. Could you enter it in competition? Depends on the competition. SCCA RallyCross (where most people get started with amateur level rally) generally requires that cars have a low rollover risk since cages aren't required, but I have seen a Chevy Blazer and an old Ford F1 truck out at a few events, so SUVs aren't explicitly prohibited. HPD ran a Honda Passport for a little while in ARA and did quite well with it, so you can totally run a compact SUV in stage rally and get away with it. Keep in mind though, if you want to do stage rally you need to invest about $15k in safety equipment and the like to fit the regs, so you have to ask yourself if it's worth it to put $15k into a Jeep Patriot for stage rally (not to mention the additional costs of ARA). I'd imagine you're not asking that question with serious stage rally in mind though, I'd imagine you're asking because you've already got a Jeep Patriot as your street car and you want to have some fun on the weekends. If that's your situation than yes, it's feasible. Race what you've got, have fun and enjoy the community. SCCA RX is a great way to get involved. I will say though that it's probably not the best option. Jeep Patriots are pretty notorious for reliability/quality issues, and those issues will all be massively exacerbated by intense RX driving. I personally would be a little worried about rollover risk as well. If you want to do RX or rally more seriously and not destroy your daily, I'd look into a well used Subaru or some other cheap second hand option that you don't feel bad about destroying, but still has enough life left to hold up to some serious abuse. If you're interested in learning more about my first time with RX, I made a video about it you can watch here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iaePnLyrl6nQf2g.html Good luck and have fun! (P.S. This is all coming from the assumption you're thinking about getting involved in American Rally, if you're from EU or another market I don't have enough good info to really tell you much.)

@carpartsandexhaustfarts The jeep is my daily, so I probably would be better off buying an old Subaru. Thanks for the input!

@@tbmavenger71 Of course, my pleasure! I hope you're able to get out there and have fun!

I know, the owner didn't realize what that meant I don't think. I know for a fact that that was a GT though (you can see "GT" on the bumper and it's listed as having a V8) and the mustang has only ever came in rwd. So I think the guy who was selling it just made a mistake.

Technically there was a FWD Mustang back in the 90s but it failed.

Oh my bad, I should have been more vigilant in finding the right footage. Thank you for the correction.

That's solid

We talking shoestring budget, who wants to spend 5k just on the car to crash?

Fr tired of seeing 10k and 15k as budget cars on list lol

Very true, I was just factoring in the initial cost. The long term conversion/maintenance that is required to make a rule compliant rally car is far more expensive than the cost of purchasing the car.

Excellent option, but they always come up just a little more pricey than I'd like, plus the civic is so similar for so much less.

Lancer's great but most of the cheap ones are FWD and pretty beat on in my area. Evos are a $30k ordeal where I live so no way I'm taking that in a budget list over a cheap Impreza. If money was no object than the Evo would be near or at the top of the list for street cars you can build for rally, it's a beast. The base FWD lancer just doesn't beat out the competition given it's price/the availability of parts I'm afraid.

I made this list before I had any real world experience and I didn't really have a clue what I was talking about, but you do see some pretty successful front engine rear wheel drive cars in rally with some relatively heavy motors. Michael Hooper and the River City Rally crew run the Lexus IS350 which has a relatively hefty V6 up front and they've been doing quite well overall (competitive with R5s and the like). I know there are a few Foxbody mustangs that hold their own in ARA too. I imagine the big Windsor/Romeo V8s in the SN95s would carry too much weight up front to offset the lackluster power they'd be delivering in the rear though, so I'd imagine they wouldn't be too practical. I was really just in the "what's the cheapest RWD car you can reasonably get" mindset.

Tragically, most of these were pretty unrealistic to begin with

I'm glad you liked the video. I made this some years ago before I had any real world exposure so I was pretty oblivious, it's just for fun. As you mentioned, there's a number of reasons why you don't typically see big displacement motors in competitive rally. River City Rally's IS350 rally cars with their 3.5 L V6s tend to do quite well, but they do get very loose and while you occasionally run into V8s like in Pat Moro's Chevy Sonic they aren't that common in top categories. This video is very much for hobbyists though, and I think there's some room there for bigger displacement motors if you accept their inherent limitations.

Subie gang for life

Certainly not anymore