THE BEST CARRY HEROES IN FOR HONOR YEAR 8

THE BEST CARRY HEROES IN FOR HONOR YEAR 8 - FOR HONOR TIERLIST

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0:00 - intro
5:25 - Warden
7:38 - Conqueror
10:32 - Peacekeeper
14:14 - Lawbringer
16:51 - Centurion
19:06 - Gladiator
21:50 - Black Prior
24:16 - Warmonger
27:28 - Gryphon
30:33 - Varangian Guard
34:25 - Raider
36:14 - Warlord
38:22 - Berserker
40:40 - Valkyrie
42:31 - Highlander
47:21 - Shaman
50:32 - Jormungandr
54:21 - Kensei
57:08 - Shugoki
59:16 - Orochi
1:01:41 - Nobushi
1:05:09 - Shinobi
1:08:16 - Aramusha
1:10:33 - Hitokiri
1:13:25 - Kyoshin
1:16:38 - Jiang Jun
1:18:49 - Tiandi
1:20:56 - Shaolin
1:23:34 - Zhanhu
1:25:42 - Nuxia
1:28:33 - Ocelotl
1:31:04 - Medjay
1:33:57 - Pirate
1:35:42 - Afeera
1:38:42 - Tierlst Adjustments
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@Raijuri 3 ай бұрын

*KNIGHTS* 5:25 - Warden 7:38 - Conqueror 10:32 - Peacekeeper 14:14 - Lawbringer 16:51 - Centurion 19:06 - Gladiator 21:50 - Black Prior 24:16 - Warmonger 27:28 - Gryphon *VIKINGS* 30:33 - Varangian Guard 34:25 - Raider 36:14 - Warlord 38:22 - Berserker 40:40 - Valkyrie 42:31 - Highlander 47:21 - Shaman 50:32 - Jormungandr *SAMURAI* 54:21 - Kensei 57:08 - Shugoki 59:16 - Orochi 1:01:41 - Nobushi 1:05:09 - Shinobi 1:08:16 - Aramusha 1:10:33 - Hitokiri 1:13:25 - Kyoshin *WU LIN* 1:16:38 - Jiang Jun 1:18:49 - Tiandi 1:20:56 - Shaolin 1:23:34 - Zhanhu 1:25:42 - Nuxia *OUTLANDERS* 1:28:33 - Ocelotl 1:31:04 - Medjay 1:33:57 - Pirate 1:35:42 - Afeera

@johnsmith-dn8kv 3 ай бұрын

King

@slimdaawg 3 ай бұрын

this guy times

@SolidSol69 3 ай бұрын

B e a utiful thank you so much DarkHaxxorz

@Raijuri 3 ай бұрын

I gotchu friend. Keep up the awesome content. @@SolidSol69

@suzu8253 3 ай бұрын

@carlosvicenty-9856 3 ай бұрын

I would say Centurion is S tier because it’s not about winning it’s about sending a message it’s about showing that you don’t need hyper armor on all of your attacks or crazy hit boxes it shows that the power of Rome takes down all

@alt0799 3 ай бұрын

I really hate how normalized all the heroes have become. Dodge attacks, bashes undodgeables etc. Iused to main Musha but dropped him after the rework. He just didnt feel unique anymore.

@lesangbleu7545 3 ай бұрын

Like all the Heroes, it always seems that they are all the same since long time now

@thedarkprince6 3 ай бұрын

Tbh stamina drain and pause is one of strongest tools in the game.

@baldwinivofjerusalem47 2 ай бұрын

ROME IS CIVILIZATION ROME IS ORDER ROME IS POWER!!!!!

@ciscobriones5904 2 ай бұрын

If only they made a Rome game that's like kingdom come deliverance..., a true Rome simulator where you can choose to join the Roman army, even become a gladiator, a Roman hired thug

@SolidSol69 3 ай бұрын

Praise the holy emperor for giving me wonderful timestamp guy. Tierlist was fun and grueling to make so if you enjoyed it and want a goth girl, leave me a thumbs up 👍 lmk if this list fits with your experiences and if any of them need adjustments according to your experiences. Thanks for watching as always guys. Solidsol out

@carlosvicenty-9856 3 ай бұрын

He did it

@sebastianclaudio1715 3 ай бұрын

A GUY DID IT!! it’s pinning time

@wealthybone2990 3 ай бұрын

Now you gotta pin.

@Alegocheeseburger 2 ай бұрын

Gladiator's punches ignore hito's hyper armor and so many more hyper armors, i've made people rage with a tiny ponch to the balls after they try hyper armor attacks

@BJ-Delresto 3 ай бұрын

Sol I’ve been sober since August but I’ve gotten addicted to this fucking game again please keep me in your prayers

@user-wo4xz6ri4s 2 ай бұрын

The cycle. Dont we all know

@Xciteable 2 ай бұрын

I was sober for close to two years and I just redownloaded it lol

@chiefbungalow Ай бұрын

I relapsed yesterday. Last time I played was when warmonger/gryphon came out

@mattmcdonald8348 22 күн бұрын

I was going about a year strong but my will was too weak, started back 2 weeks ago😭😭

@pluginmao4604 3 ай бұрын

Just got back into For Honor. Haven't played since 2020 and I'm so rusty it's basically like relearning the game. Helpful video.

@bubonic_bait2600 3 ай бұрын

Just got back into for honor as well. What made you take a break?

@pluginmao4604 3 ай бұрын

@@bubonic_bait2600It was a mix of feeling the turtle heavy gameplay wasnt going to change anytime soon and being dissapointed in Warmonger and Gryphon that I felt were just reskinned Warden and Lawbringer, which tbf I was wrong about, they are pretty different and the heroes that came after are way more unique. What about you?

@bubonic_bait2600 3 ай бұрын

@@pluginmao4604 the primary reason I left was mostly the toxicity. It kinda gets to you when you’re trying to play a game for fun and everyone’s treating it like there a million dollars on the line.

@pluginmao4604 3 ай бұрын

@@bubonic_bait2600understandable

@ShadowIYI 3 ай бұрын

@@bubonic_bait2600 I realised its hard to play this game just for fun too so I just stick with my teammates when I dont want to try hard

@Despresso-ht6ce 3 ай бұрын

Finally, time to get some chips and watch this movie

@Neil-wz5do 3 ай бұрын

Loser

@parkertulk7485 3 ай бұрын

I swore off chips in favor of cashews.

@Despresso-ht6ce 3 ай бұрын

reasonable @@parkertulk7485

@Bigblackhawk123 3 ай бұрын

@@parkertulk7485no salt right?

@parkertulk7485 3 ай бұрын

@@Bigblackhawk123 Yeah.

@cowboysamurai8192 3 ай бұрын

I can’t believe I’ve never played this until tonight, maybe the Eclipse made me do it… I didn’t realize the game was this deep and intense, can’t wait to get obsessed and reassess this 3 years from now!

@ThanatosXVL 2 ай бұрын

stay away from it before is too late

@l-ek2bs 13 күн бұрын

He fell into the trap 😞

@kristopherrice1465 3 ай бұрын

The OG knights have been forgotten by the new meta

@os8588 3 ай бұрын

Conqueror 😢

@Cristian_that_artist 3 ай бұрын

Good

@Cristian_that_artist 3 ай бұрын

@nuh_uh210 what are you crying about silly?

@MsErtwer 2 ай бұрын

@@Cristian_that_artist Seems like the crybaby is you here.

@SifsBestFriend 2 ай бұрын

⁠@@Cristian_that_artistwhomp whomp

@Mercer263 2 ай бұрын

I remember when this game first came out, Berserker and Nobushi were my mains. Glad to see this game has survived over the years and has aged nicely

@samjackson9717 2 ай бұрын

Somebody hasnt played the game recently...

@king_kai28 Ай бұрын

@@samjackson9717wdym?

@notoprahwinfree3471 Ай бұрын

@@samjackson9717what? nobushi and berserker are both great characters

@quill9648 3 ай бұрын

I love looking at good LB gameplay, you guys are MONSTERS, and despite LB being relatively simple in terms of combos, it's just so hard to break through once they get in a rythm.

@LeedleLeePatrick 3 ай бұрын

The fact that it's 90% gankers and super armor spammers in S-tier speaks a lot as to how this game is designed to be played vs. how it's actually played lol. You'd think BP, Warlord, and Kyoshin would be sitting right next to Varg

@ausleyl6151 3 ай бұрын

Was just watching your last tier list video this morning. What a blessing this is! ❤️

@SPARTON0Weezy 3 ай бұрын

Had the hardest time learning but once you become even an OK Black Prior you become SOOO CRAZY bruh. Her survivability due to the flip and perks is crazy

@unsubme2157 3 ай бұрын

Easy mode

@tbtnr9851 2 ай бұрын

Conqueror: *survivability you say?*

@SPARTON0Weezy 2 ай бұрын

@@tbtnr9851 just fought a Conq in 4s and yes that man literally last stand popped revenge like 8 times and cycled through everyone cuz they thought they could take em haha

@tbtnr9851 2 ай бұрын

@@SPARTON0Weezy facts, never underestimate a conqueror

@VSN-wb2ly 2 ай бұрын

I love to bait BP players into GB

@sunshot444 3 ай бұрын

Bizarre how all the samurai (Except Kensei) are all top characters while half of my knights are butchered.

@lotuslife3239 2 ай бұрын

Cause Boobisoft likes weebs more than straight men. I still love Orochi tho

@hectorjarachairez1168 Ай бұрын

What can I say, playing anything else but knights is being gae 🗿

@Winter_Maus 6 күн бұрын

anti white propaganda

@Yannis88s 3 ай бұрын

You have done a nice work with this video !

@RavenWolfGaming 3 ай бұрын

Sol! ❤ Another amazing & helpful video.

@havelthejock3761 3 ай бұрын

If you don't use shield basher as conq, you can actually use your shield bash light attack to clear minions in a really big 360 after each bash. If you use shield basher, the bash kills the minion targeted and you can't do the follow up

@kanomi_official9519 2 ай бұрын

i only have 2 problems with this tier-list Shugoki being behind Nobushi and shaman not being higher purely because her Bleed healing in 1v1s and team fights after nail bomb or such other than that it is quite a damn good tier-list thanks for making it reasonably precise.

@SirBeck0621 Ай бұрын

The fact Warden Kensei and Raider are not good shows the issues in the game right now.

@draioc892 3 ай бұрын

FINALLY IT IS HERE

@therml3719 3 ай бұрын

I love when you make your tier lists. And your videos always make my day. Love the content. ❤

@howdy9517 3 ай бұрын

finally. A tierlist i can totally agree with

@Kimahri01 Ай бұрын

I love that you say every character can be good. I play for 1 year at release date, and I love the game. Then life 🥺. But I start to play yesterday and everything look so pretty 🥰

@yahboispirit4180 3 ай бұрын

The thing i think makes varangian guard really good is even if she misses her unblockable because you dodge attack it she can just insta full guard your dodge attack, making it almost impossable to hit her 😤

@nebula9964 3 ай бұрын

Hito might be slightly OP, but I got into for honor all because of her when she first dropped. That event was fire.

@eonstar2441 3 ай бұрын

You can sometimes external crushing counter as warden in team fights buts it’s not reliable

@KnightGamingVipOfficial 3 ай бұрын

finally you did it

@rixyl7475 Ай бұрын

I would move BP up personally, maybe at extreme skill levels it makes sense but as someone thats maybe avg/ below avg that Hero is so easy in a 4v4 sense its incredible. Your fullguard options, tankiness and mixups are easy to use/ understand and even if you just sit there and spam your flip in a gank you can seriously mess up an enemy teams tempo in a fight. If you put maybe 3-10 games into BP and figure out timings the Hero will genuinely carry you. Though if you think I'm wrong I'm down to talk about it, but from my current experience struggling with all my higher Rep characters just to pull PB out and casually rack in wins I feel like that character is VERY strong for 4v4s.

@SolaireofAstoraFH 3 ай бұрын

Babe wake up Solid sol made a tier list

@solus7319 3 ай бұрын

Could you do a skill tier list? I have just come back to the game (sadly) and don't know much about recent reworks

@Lightning-wv5vy 3 ай бұрын

My boy with the Rep 71 Kensei really feeding revenge like breakfast and collecting deaths like figurines

@level_1_crook 3 ай бұрын

Sol, what about agis, vengeful barrier, and last stand. I'm actually just curious because I know bastion doesn't stack with last stand so you have that 10% damage reduction until you hit critical health then you have the 40% but with Agis when you do get revenge and your In critical health you have 20% more shield in revenge and you get that 25hp + 20% shield when exiting revenge, and the last stand damage reduction also applies to your shield. And (if you block properly) you can stack vengeful barrier multiple times. That's my thought process on it tho, it's worked pretty well for me. what do you think in your experience?

@SolidSol69 3 ай бұрын

That would be interesting. Id like to try one day but the reason bastion is so good is that it starts even when you are full hp. In order for aegis to be helpful, youd need to get revenge, get sinister shield, or protected revive, and these things arent a common occurrence to rely on consistently. Bastion you just need to be on a point 😊 Its the lazy way of getting damage reduction but if youve been getting success, thats great

@c1nnthecreator 3 ай бұрын

Took you long enough for this vid boxman

@obin8927 2 ай бұрын

I feel like gladiator skewer is fine since it’s all bleed damage on an unblockable, especially when nobushi can get the same amount of damage off of an undodgeable mix up heavy, and inflicting bleed on someone is so easy to do

@alikhosrojerdi7323 3 ай бұрын

can you please make a video about best executions for each hero❤️❤️

@deariencrowell6054 3 ай бұрын

You Ik I didnt realize u were the Valkyrie on the map shard. I was the Shoki. Bruh I literally was like give them hell Valkyrie. Good shit!!😃

@revan6441 3 ай бұрын

What if you could dodge cancel out of guard break? You know when you guardbreak an opponent and another goes to hit you? What if you could block, dodge, attack, without any delay? For all Heroes I feel as though it would make the game feel less clunky. But not sure how it would affect the game overall.

@DukeCyrus 3 ай бұрын

I played the beta and all through year one, time to see whats changed

@blazedice9392 3 ай бұрын

22:56 i try to listen to what you say but this version of song of the ancients is COOKING

@bryanandersonmt 3 ай бұрын

I haven't even gotten to them yet, but i imagine BP and Warmommy are high as always, but i hate how i'm always having to restart their chains. I'm not asking for infinite chains for them, no way lol, but like, when you compare them with Gryphon he's got a much better flowing moveset. I wish Bugisoft would do some small reworks to BP and Warmonger just to make them flow better (tbh that could be done to more heroes too)

@shadoe5673 15 күн бұрын

1:13:31 I’m still wondering how he made his kyoshin look all black like that, SOMEBODY PLEASE

@Phantom-dc9qv 3 ай бұрын

I think thick skin is under-rated feat on zhanhu because ya little fire bomb is cool and big damage after first hit its cool but when u one fight 1-2 and more enemies because ur teammates die, this feat can save ur ass. I understand this after 70 rep on this character 😅

@michelchaman6495 2 ай бұрын

I seen a black prior flip 2 ppl at once and all i could think was wow, he doesn't skip leg day.

@hectorjarachairez1168 Ай бұрын

You can flip the whole enemy team if they all are kinda braindead and attack at the same time. I've won a few times in 1v3 thanks to the profundis. Sometimes it's way better going for the flip than the parry, mostly against UB heavies

@schishne7546 2 ай бұрын

Been sober for a year till I found out that they released a fcking Varangian Guard, one of my favorite absolute units from historic depictions and descriptions (except a few little things ofc but its for honor afterall).

@guyperson7487 3 ай бұрын

I don't get why ubi is allergic to have a really good knight. The best they get is "it's aight" currently. ANything a knight can do, someone else can do better

@hectorjarachairez1168 Ай бұрын

They just weebs.

@SoullessSociety27 3 ай бұрын

Subbing because I’m trying to get back into this as a noob who quit

@cherrycola4476 2 ай бұрын

No one talks about Lawbringers 20 damage top heavy or that you can light him out of his top unblockables

@SPARTON0Weezy 3 ай бұрын

HATED Nobushi then I played with her and GEEZ bruh she is strong as heck once you get used to her flow charts. Shes fun to play as not against.

@rage_tv4493 Ай бұрын

only thing for Pk that i think would greatly benefit her would be to let her zone attack be kinda like glad zone. or make the first hit unblockable. then i think she would be perfect

@seventhkishin3830 3 ай бұрын

Bring back the old sol, we miss him

@Lalo-td2ol 12 күн бұрын

Ocelotl es mi favorito, representando perfectamente mi cultura, también me gusta mucho Medjay ⚔️

@slimdaawg 3 ай бұрын

4:20 in and this seems to be a good one. i hope he dont hate kensei aka #1 top boss

@chickenchaser6284 21 күн бұрын

23:05 I love this transition

@NobleAK 3 ай бұрын

W song of the ancients addition

@redfinite27 3 ай бұрын

The moment when you can run shield up because you have a friend who has speed revive and rising dawn

@suarem4311 3 ай бұрын

Wow!

@StepSisSara 3 ай бұрын

time to get the popcorn for this one!

@WorldFullOffLies 3 ай бұрын

Warlord still needs sum love tho👐🏽

@Herodotus888 3 ай бұрын

Next vid guide on how to play with my monitor off please.

@duofhidfasf2559 3 ай бұрын

I LOVE YOU CARTOONZ

@iwantcider 3 ай бұрын

We're close to having a full viable roaster, just need some work on pk and nuxia. shaman is a B, what are you doing boxhead?

@May101Fever 3 ай бұрын

I kinda feel weird after the reworks I gained the ability to light parry after not playing for a few months.

@haechin13f3 3 ай бұрын

As a shinobi main, if i execute enemy i get full health

@user-pg6kp1im6w 3 ай бұрын

My main is the warden, but my second is Orochi

@irishbearsfan12 3 ай бұрын

Yahhhhhs 🎉🎉🎉

@Haxis3 3 ай бұрын

Wym, warlord in A!!!!! That’s literally wild. In no world is his hyper armor, crushing counters, chains or anything about his kit more useful then a c…

@Booty_WarriorGaming 3 ай бұрын

Health bar and good defense options

@themadyuno6454 2 ай бұрын

I still play pk ever since the game cane out and yeah if your not super cracked at the game she is hard to use in team fights. But for me I love to team fight with pk. A extremely good pk in breach is hard to deal with and last laugh feat is always fun to use

@KingCrimsonRequiem336 Ай бұрын

i thought Conq used unblockable a lot until i played with pk with bleeding afflicted

@ThaddeusBloodRaven 3 ай бұрын

I’ve come back to For Honor after not having played since the first couple of months. I’m currently a rep15 Black Prior, rep9 kyoshin, and my K/D really isn’t all that great. I played Hirokiri for just one game last night relying on variable timed heavies ALONE and I got more kills and less deaths than I have ever on either of my mains. Don’t get me wrong - I have great games where I can go 15-1 on black prior, but I went 11-1 on Hitokiri without even trying. I love playing every character but I’d like to max rep one character in particular. Which character would be recommended to max rep that you feel would teach valuable and transferrable skills?

@Mercer263 2 ай бұрын

Glad to see a veteran getting back into the game. Just curious but how was it after getting back into the game after so many years? Right now I’m just chilling in dragons dogma 2 lol

@ThaddeusBloodRaven 2 ай бұрын

@@Mercer263 it’s fun coming back to learn all the new matchups. I had a ton of playtime on orochi and it’s been interesting to see all the ways the changes the character. I’ve been playing pretty consistently and I’m trying to become a carry in my dominion games but I’m also looking to improve in a general sense. I don’t see anything but maybe battlefront kyber2 pulling me away anytime soon.

@FaultyWires 3 ай бұрын

reasonable tierlist but afeera and shinobi are 100% the best. especially if youre good as shino, hard to beat them.

@MsErtwer 2 ай бұрын

18:09 the enemy zerker got them sneakers on.

@theguy9041 2 ай бұрын

I'm one of the rare minion lane enjoyers. I love watching like 6 dudes fall from a single swing of my weapon.

@MyThelema 3 ай бұрын

I feel like I have to sweat so hard on Warden to destroy dominion games compared to most heroes. He is the most rewarding character imo though

@hamzazoudah7040 2 ай бұрын

Can we have the background music?

@JLNS0KU 3 ай бұрын

1:32:24 DAWG YOU CANNOT IMAGINE MY SURPRISE SEEING MYSELF APPEAR

@Nijletonyllatot 3 ай бұрын

1:33 literally just describes Varangian

@aisuyukii 3 ай бұрын

That orochi clip right before the feat listing was so disgusting LOL

@Bobdamilkman420 2 ай бұрын

I think that if you know how to play shugoki then he’s above S. The amount of health plus hyper armor and hugs makes him OP

@AnonYmous-ni5cv 21 күн бұрын

Brand new player, should I try out Shaolin or Orochi?

@SlaveofAllah__ 19 күн бұрын

Shaolin is abit complicated but once you get familiar with him he’s unbelievable

@pedroromarhernandez6554 3 ай бұрын

Black prior weakness is esentially skillisue

@j.d.4697 3 ай бұрын

Sifu Hidden Stan is really strong. Mainly cause nobody knows where he hides.

@Javyenn13 2 ай бұрын

I feel nuxia should in a higher spot, I main her only because no one do. How do you fight someone who you barely know, I seen hard spammers get scared thanks to the trap technique, a fast light attacks & being able to push enemies anywhere with her hooksword.

@havelthejock3761 3 ай бұрын

The warden cc is actually useful in team fights. If you see someone externally using a dodge forward attack on you, you can use your top crushing counter on the right timing and do the 35 damage cc on whoever you're locked onto.

@kristopherrice1465 3 ай бұрын

It’s 20 damage and it’s trash be honest

@NoNamesAreAllowed 3 ай бұрын

@@kristopherrice1465i think he means with the guaranteed follow up light, which makes it 33 i believe.

@kristopherrice1465 3 ай бұрын

@@NoNamesAreAllowed ahhh fair enough, I didn’t think it guaranteed the second light but I’m probably wrong. Which is funny because I have 29 reps on warden, and have used his top CC maybe 10 times😂😂😂

@eonstar2441 3 ай бұрын

@@kristopherrice1465 the follow up light isn’t confirmed but 9/10 out of ten you get it

@ethanpeeples6187 3 ай бұрын

It confirmed if it ccs not if it's from neutral

@shadoe5673 Ай бұрын

1:13:31 HOW DID HE MAKE HIS KYOUSHIN LOOK LIKE THT?!?

@w2rdog 3 ай бұрын

BP, JJ and WL in A tier is crazy, I wouldn’t even say VG is better than them

@Warmerfaun 3 ай бұрын

Hear me out, conqueror gets a new feat where if they throw it out and someone is dodge-rolling away he can throw it and stun them like the gladiator bola or the ocelot scorpion hook thing, but this only effectively stuns them if they are dodge rolling and it stuns them for like a solid 5 seconds, and I would make it a tier 3

@charliemoreno6772 3 ай бұрын

My dad told he’s gonna go buy milk after he heard me watching a for honor video

@mattybobatty525 3 ай бұрын

I am shocked, appalled and disgusted to see Shaman in the lowest tier in any for honor tier list

@samtismeify Ай бұрын

Love this community and game so much. Even tho I found this late I’m so excited to learn and get better and give back to this wonderful game and community of smart talented peoples !

@bobe2497 3 ай бұрын

love you

@user-jx8vs8oc7w 3 ай бұрын

FOV？

@zsolthegyi4156 Ай бұрын

i love you

@byronfredrick1280 Ай бұрын

I remember when og shinobi had under 4 bars of health

@ddrakcorviss9166 Ай бұрын

Always a rush when you win a 1vs4 while playing BP

@xDijon 3 ай бұрын

Why orochi not get nerfed ? Like that’s actually crazy

@Slaps10 3 ай бұрын

I don't know how to use orochi he still hard for me to learn😅

@atynniehawke9341 3 ай бұрын

BP has no recovery on unblockable and if they dodge attack an opener heavy by reading you won't be able to flip in time, either by feinting or by fastflowing. A is fine but I woyld say only in 4v4, in 1v1 he's B at best

@Ale_G1191 8 күн бұрын

a for honor tier list in 2024????

@skkiien1824 3 ай бұрын

o my lordy lord

@Shanex250 Ай бұрын

The most polarizing thing about this list is how you say for a lot characters that you need to have "game knowledge" to do well but you ain't carrying anything if you have no game knowledge. I don't know if this list was made for the brain dead but the only thing it serves really is just characters that are just simply easier to get into but carry? You aint carrying anything unless you know the game. It's much better to be able to survive and do decent, just means you are one less team member your team has to worry about but I have seen people "carry" with the wildest characters. I still remember a nuxia winning a 1v3 several times, it was absolutely insane, but to your point they know the game. "Carrying" is a little missleading, I would say this just a list of characters you don't need to be a for honor scientist to play, which is why most people play these characters.