Came for bikes. Stayed for goats. what's up from alabama
@CarFreeinTennessee Жыл бұрын
You are my exact target audience, welcome aboard 🤝
@enlightenedpreparingep4006Ай бұрын
I wanna see a video of him riding with thebgoats boxed on the back like he's in Bangladesh or something. 😅
@liketheduck29 күн бұрын
This was great, thank you! I appreciated the thoughtful, subjective quality rating.
@hoganmaps6 күн бұрын
I think your 3/10 for the lectric is spot on. Pros: - Excels at the basics, - Good range (batteries have to charge separately), - Great load capacity (have been comfortable moving 400 lbs of load multiple times), - Free good accessories - VERY upgradeable/common parts Cons: - Very heavy (130 lb wife cant operate it) very well, to the point where she is afraid of it especially with a kid and cargo added to it. - Dangerously wobbly kickstand/often breaking the kickstand bracket welds, (We rectified with a custom milled top plate, and a specialized haul lt kickstand for $170 that some amazing people on facebook figured out/orchestrated a group buy) - Bike needs more frequent maintenance for cheap parts (handlebar stem goes loose every 20 miles, everything creeks/squeaks and requires constant messing with, - Every part being a budget choice means your $1600 bike is going to become a $2200 bike after you upgrade things yourself Overall - this was an AMAZING purchase for us, and has proven the cargo bike is a lifestyle change for us and not a hobby, and I look forward to giving this to a family member when I can afford a higher end bike (I really like the Tern's, and the Bakfiets that are in the 5k to 8k range look amazing, too, if i can swing it). We are about to pull the trigger on a tern quick haul p9 which you can get for 2450 here with a state ebike subsidy.
@LightsOnMultiMediaMindArts8 ай бұрын
I bought the Globe Haul ST just before Fathers' Day this past year and I couldn't be more pleased. I've put nearly 900 miles on it carrying groceries and doing other everyday around town chores. The carrying capacity of the rear rack was misreported and has recently been updated to 132 pounds. The overall carrying capacity is 419 pounds (the weight of the rider and the cargo but not the weight of the bike). I now have a set of four "cool cave" panniers, a wire rack on the back and a rack on the front. It's a short tail so carrying a bail on hay on the rear isn't practical as you pointed out, but the few times I've need to carry something bigger I've pulled a Burley 2-wheeled cart. The short tail is better for me because I often have to lock it up or store it in tight quarters. Specialized now makes a Long Tail version, too. The warranty on ebikes especially is an important quality. I bought an ebike before the Globe Haul and the motor failed one month after the one year warranty expired. I lost an entire summer riding it trying to get the manufacturer to either fix it or replace it. Which they eventually did after I kept nagging them. The Globe Haul has a 2 year electrical warranty and a lifetime warranty on the frame. Tern makes great bikes. I'll be interested to see how yours works out for you.
@travisrose Жыл бұрын
Loved this video, you earned at least one sub 😅 I tend to use a similar weighting score in my decision for an eBike. Congrats on your decision to purchase the Tern! Really looking forward to seeing your long-term review. 🙌
@nospamallowed489011 ай бұрын
Appreciated the truly independent review and subscribed only to help you out, even though these models didn't work for me, mainly because the traditional bycicle seats tend to be painful for me (the recumbent style of seat fits me better). My use case is also not as extreme as yours and would be mostly for "retiree" exercise and nearby grocery shopping, all over mostly flat terrain. So far I have not seen a single bycicle, trike or quadricycle (powered or unpowered) that fits the need and justifies the price they sell for. I might just have to separate excercise to a bike and continue doing grocery shopping by car. Or... build my own. Good job on the video and keep going.
@williambarney2874 Жыл бұрын
Those goats are funny and look very happy! Nice video 😎
@marksadventures3889 Жыл бұрын
Here's one more subscriber. I'm going class 1 but in the UK no accelerator allowed and 15.5mph - max motor 250 watts ( apparently there's a 350 watt version that looks very much like the 250 people get). Self build due to price, mostly for camping, wildcamping.
@aaronsunderland8838 Жыл бұрын
Yay 40th subscriber Send this man all the cargo e bikes now! :)
@JohnstonRobare7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great video! A couple notes: as someone else pointed out, after your video was released, Specialized re-rated the rear rack on the Globe to 60kg/132lbs, so that's a nice touch. Also, Tern does rate the Quick Haul with a GVWR (bike+rider+cargo) of 150kg/330lbs, but the 190kg/419lbs rating for the Specialized is just its carrying capacity (rider+cargo). Its true GVWR must be ~227kg/500lbs. In other words, if you could somehow strap it down, the Specialized could carry an entire max capacity Tern and still have 90lbs left over for a small rider 😅 No wonder its so heavy!
@enlightenedpreparingep4006Ай бұрын
Very helpful conment thx
@CatMeowMeow2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this overview! I've been stuck between the quick haul and globe as well. I think I'm going with the quick haul over longevity and repairability concerns. I like that ebikes with a Bosch system have such a seemingly large and stable market for electric part replacements whereas if the electrical system were to fail on the globe I don't know how I'd start to fix it.
@ex0stasis72 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video! I'd recommend looking into whether the ebike has a hub motor or a mod drive motor. Mid drives are better for mountain bikes for going up constant steep hills, but hub motors are more efficient, simpler, more durable, and cheaper. One of the classic benefits that is no longer exclusive to mid drive motors is having a torque sensor instead of a cadence sensor. But now, I've been finding hub motor ebikes with a torque sensor combining, in my opinion, the best of both worlds.
@hackman882 ай бұрын
I have the AiPAS A6-D. It's a dual battery class 3 cargo bike and very similar to the XPedition. My main issue with it is high-speed wobble. The step through frame is flexible and the slack head\steering tube angle results in a significant wobble at ~23 MPH and accelerating. It takes at least one hand firmly gripping the handlebars to control it. The bike is fine if you keep it set to class 2 and under 20 MPH. You should test your cargo bikes for for high-speed wobble. I have heard that it is a common issue with long cargo bikes with slack head angle. The slack head angle is intended to make the bike more stable by increasing the self-correcting force on the steering, but sometimes results in oscillation. The slack head angle can also cause what feels like overly aggressive turn-in, but you quickly get used to it.
@enlightenedpreparingep4006Ай бұрын
I'm about to buy my first Ebike & I'm leaning heavily towards the AiPAS A6 there are 3 others that have my interest as well so more diligence needs done. You say AiPAS A6 "D" does that imply there is a A,B, & C
@hackman88Ай бұрын
@@enlightenedpreparingep4006 The "D" designates dual battery. They sell the single battery version as the "A6". The wobble I mentioned above is the main con. The 2nd biggest con is it reduces power ~25 MPH making it difficult to get to 28 MPH. I usually top out at 26 MPH on the flat. The BPM F-16 is a similar and cheaper option. I've never seen one in person and there are very few reviews on KZfaq, but the specs-per-dollar value looks very high.
@enlightenedpreparingep4006Ай бұрын
@@hackman88 I bikepacked 800 miles last fall on a OVERLAODED 30 year old Aluminum Peugeot averaging 7 mph so I'm not as concerned with the top speeds and I found some woble issues myself but as I stated I was over loading the bike. Which truly preformed well. I'm gonna do it better this time sorta 😂
@matooleyobrien29187 ай бұрын
The Xpedition is actually the Best ..It's not as Refined as a Tern bike ..BUT It's More powerful, Higher Load Capacity,Frame was DIN Tested and Actually withstood about 600 Pounds with frames being stressed Literally Over thousands & thousands of times by machinery.. the double Articulating folding handlebars are excellent and make transporting inside a SUV easy.. quick release pedals .. I personally have had OVER 450 pounds on this bike numerous times and it Handled it with Zero issues and was easy to manage maneuvering and braking was surprisingly good even with all the extra weight I'm a good 300 pounds and with both Pannier side bags loaded resting on floorboards and some stuff on rear rack the Xpedition has surprised me with it's Quality and ruggedness. The dual batteries will average me throttle only about 50 miles .. however most of that is on paved/crushed limestone bike path with few hills traveling to parents..I only have 1 20% 1/4 mile hill to go up on this route..
@PsychodeguАй бұрын
It looks to me like the Aipas A6 is even better, basically a Xpedition with less motor noise and a front suspension.
@versus0234 ай бұрын
the part where the coat is rear ending the other one in repetition is very funny! I Will resume my viewing of the reveiws
@jeffreyastjohn4 ай бұрын
The Globe Haul’s rear rack is good for 132 lbs (60kg). They admit on their site that it’s mis-labeled as 40kg. With a lot of these bikes they’ll list pretty high cargo capacity but when you take into account rider + bike + accessories you’ll never be able to hit the max weight of the rack before you’re over the GVWR.
@rich331711 ай бұрын
I’m just about finished with building my own cargo bike. I’m a power junkie. It’s built to carry easy 3 adults. Hub motor is a qs 205 5T / 300nm. 18” rim. Battery is huge. 96v 5.3 kWh 20s 12p Rear brakes are Motorcycel brakes. 32fox front. I will be selling these as custom built per order in the near future. Good luck with your KZfaq channel. I in joyed it.
@stephenstetler332411 ай бұрын
... and on the high high high side, there's R&M Multitinker! Great stuff, I enjoy riding 28 mph on the roads during the day, but at night no way. The more I ride in the evening the less Class 3 matters for safety. Thanks for the information!
@jcolt847 ай бұрын
It's wired freedom or nothing right now for me. Yes, I want something that I can take my daughter with me as a passenger, and pick up little odds and ends that I need around the house, but I think I'm going to get tired of an e-bike that doesn't go over 25 mph pretty soon after buying it. If I did get one I mean. I just don't want buyers remorse!
@alejandrodelavega1063 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, and I think you made a good choice. I recently bought the Abound, but I think for your requirements (Class 3), the Tern makes a ton of sense. Plus, give your commitment to being car free, it makes sense to buy something high quality since its a true car replacement.
@applechili28482 ай бұрын
Test rode the Specialized, very quality & fast for its category.
@WildfireWhiz-bangs5 ай бұрын
I’m not certain if it was out when you posted this, so possibly thats why you used the Haul ST instead of the LT, but I’m curious if the Haul LT wouldnt have won this comparison?
@colleenwright-kakkar6384 Жыл бұрын
I live in East Tennessee and am trying to change my life style by riding more and driving less. I have an lectric midrive and love it. I am adding different Accessories so that I can do my weekly shopping.
@CarFreeinTennessee Жыл бұрын
That awesome. I'd love to hear about your experience -- let me know if you'd be interested in chatting sometime (on or off camera)
@colleenwright-kakkar6384 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Let me get some time under my belt. And I will let you know how it is going.
@enlightenedpreparingep4006Ай бұрын
I live in NE Ohio and rode my 30 year old aluminum Peugeot LOADED TO THE MAX to Kentucky Lake last fall. I'll be there next weekend for a party y'all should come if you can. kzfaq.inforLd8I3RKszc?si=I4NiyIYxeG4Fat2k I should be peddling right now but I've got to much undone stuff to do to hit the road but me and my Donkey(Peugeot) will be there. One of us has to grow some wings but we will be there.
@user-us3xp2tg1d8 ай бұрын
Check out the FERLA LAGOM. It is a great long tail cargo bike. Not a well-known company.
@tedbellWRV4 ай бұрын
Good attempt - but the "according to science" needs improvement. First of all, some of the data is mixed up - for example some bikes have motor watts mixed up with battery watt-hours. For example, the Tern (spelled with an "e", not "u") Quick Haul, has a 250 W continuous rated motor (which is rated in accordance with European standards), not a "400 watt motor". Its battery is 400 watt-hours, which is smaller than most and range will be limited. Some data is just wrong. For example, the Tern HSD S11 has 75Nm of torque, not 80Nm. As an aside, and for science, the motor watt ratings are virtually meaningless. They are typically peak ratings made up by the marketing department and are usually representing the motor watt consumption, not motor output to the wheel. Think LED 10 watt bulb light output vs an incandescent 100 watt bulb. Torque, (Nm) is the only motor measurement that has some kind of meaning. But, you should realize that the mid-drive motors can use the bicycle's gearing to multiply the torque, vs a hub drive which drives the wheel directly. So a less powerful mid-drive might out climb a hub motor of the same torque rating. You did not get into it much, but the weight ratings usually include the bike's weight, so a bike rated at 330 lbs sounds like a lot, but really isn't once you deduct the 70 to 80 pounds for the bike weight. Personally, I'd not buy a cargo bike with a weight rating of less than 400 lbs. I do think your final result is decent. The Specialized Globe Haul ST is a pretty darn good cargo bike for the money. But it is pretty heavy. The Globe Haul has been on sale recently (as many of these e-bikes have been) so an even better price.
@enlightenedpreparingep4006Ай бұрын
That's a very helpful comment thank you for taking the time to type it. I have thousands of miles on bikes going all the way back I'm researching to buy my first Ebike & comments like yours help. Dual battery cargo is what fits my needs. I'm leaning towards the Aipas A6 but there are 3 more on my radar as well. Anyhow thanks again
@markb6295 Жыл бұрын
18th sub You have to remember me when you hit 1 million
@fgh275611 ай бұрын
Cali class 3 bike owner. I usually stay on the street. If I ever am on the sidewalk, it's usually at 12mph or slower. I don't use trails or bike lanes divided from the main traffic.
@butchie27523 ай бұрын
The abound is currently $1800 and includes extras including an extra battery. I want to do cargo in an emergency. Otherwise just tooling around. Speed over 20 is not important to me. I have a bigger faster bike that I’m probably keeping. I think it’s a pretty good deal right now. What do you think? P.S. I ignore paid reviews and can smell one a mile away.
@mikarpman2 ай бұрын
You list the Lectric Xpedition bike as having a range of 150 miles and a price of $1,699. I think you're a little bit confused, because in order to get the 150 mile range you must buy the dual battery version which is close to $2,000 in price
@jancoetzer99412 ай бұрын
Unless you have to carry the bike up some stairs or something, I wouldn't give so much weight to the weight... (see what I did there?). The (MUCH) bigger motor of the Globe Haul should more than make up for the bike's weight. I did this same matrix, and nothing beat the Globe Haul, in my opinion...
@user-jg8fq6pg4u5 ай бұрын
What about the Benno Boost Speed? That would be a good one for you :)
@stevenwalker23211 ай бұрын
Great job!
@toddpacker705811 ай бұрын
I have the Globe Haul, it’s awesome, and fast.
@tuppytheducky Жыл бұрын
subscriber 60 checking in
@frankiealbritton9381 Жыл бұрын
I like it already when is the milking
@urastus920211 ай бұрын
re load capacity on the rear; the actual weak point is generally the axle. Check out the axles; they need to be big and beefy.
@thrallingFRglory Жыл бұрын
Would the quick haul d8 be able to comfortably carry an adult of around 55kilos? I’m considering it as a primary means of transport for carting me and my wife around the city. HSD and GSD aren’t options unfortunately
@vlady8me Жыл бұрын
now Car Free in Ternessee?
@CarFreeinTennessee Жыл бұрын
So true
@user-do7rw5oi2h Жыл бұрын
Dude, where's Anioki on your list? He has 11/10😂
@beerandbrat9 ай бұрын
according to lectric's website the expedition is a class 2 not a class 3
@octagonPerfectionist10 ай бұрын
have you taken a look at the long tail version of the specialized or was that never in the running?
@octagonPerfectionist10 ай бұрын
i saw someone say that lowering the tire pressure to 10-15psi would help with the lack of suspension forks
@robenglish416 Жыл бұрын
Yuba Fastrack $3999?
@emittingtenseyelps77328 ай бұрын
i have TERN S 10 IT ISA KEEPER
@ellenmbbingham5332Ай бұрын
Pedego Stretch
@ellenmbbingham5332Ай бұрын
Love the goats!
@mohamadmansor227911 ай бұрын
Y u show a 🐐 not good vedio
@SolarizeYourLife11 ай бұрын
I only recognize specialist bike, all others never heard of before....there is too many bike manufacturers...
@robertbrooks7936 Жыл бұрын
This is a very disappointing video. You seems to look more favorable to the more expensive bike.
@CarFreeinTennessee Жыл бұрын
Are you surprised that the more expensive bikes have better features? I tried to provide an honest evaluation of the bikes I found based on my experiences and the available information. Please share any bikes or thoughts you have!
@ST-oq9wx11 ай бұрын
Don’t forget, the Globe Haul LT is now out which is a much better fit for your use case. The Tern is great though I just prefer the look of the Globe Haul, it’s accessories and the dealer support (this cannot be overstated enough) - so much so I ordered an LT to compliment my Haul ST. I also think the Haul ST deserved a higher quality rating. Also, Specialized just confirmed the rear rack can handle 132 pounds for all STs.