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Jonas himself said that he climbed better than ever. I think Visma did the right thing. Your assessment of Visma's tactics is bang on. I have been following cycling since 1983 and I have never seen a cyclist like Pog!

I agree that Remco has exceeded expectations. He is having a good tour!

What an amazing climb. His pharmacist is truly exceptional.

The only cyclists who win back to back mountain stages = massive doping history always shows that! I can’t believe that the climbers who took it easy on the Pau to St Lary couldn’t keep up for the stage yesterday…

Not only were climb records smashed, they were climbing Plateau de Beille after climbing 4 cat 1 climbs! That's just crazy!

Going in, I think most people thought Pogacar would win. But, people were less certain about Vingegaard and if the race would be competitive. To me the most pleasant surprise of the tour has been just that, Vingegaard may be losing, but he is doing great and the race is competitive which makes watching it far more entertaining.

It's those low PSI tubeless/hookless aero gains, combined with integrated cables which obviously drive these natty gainzzzzzzzzah.

I am really impressed by Remco so far. Didn’t thought he could be that consistent, really looking forward to his future grand tours.

I like these comments a la "todays nutrition and equipment is way better". So much better apparently that they don't have similar times as those riders who were doped as crazy but they even beat this times by minutes!!!!

I think the UCI wised up and followed other sports. You cant ban your stars and expect to bring in revenue. They just turn a blind eye to doping. Same like the NBA and soccer.

You've been missed on commentary Dan. Hope the third week somehow manages to match the first two for enjoyment!

Pogi was eating and drinking on all those climbs including during Jonas's attack. He wasn't about to bonk.

I don't know what's funnier: Evenepoel being a faster climber than Pantani, Vingegard riding the greatest climb of his life 3 months after that crash, breaking the record himself, or Pogacar smashing the record by almost 4 minutes after dominating the Giro. At least Pogacar was honest when he said he rode the greatest climb of all time.

I am celebrating winners of each TourdeFrance 10 years after victory.

Very impressive from Pogacar for sure! But Jonas did the performance of his life too, towing Tadej up a significant portion of that last climb. There's still a lot of wind protection benefit when you consider that these guys go faster up a mountain than us regular people go on the flat 😜

“The last thing I’ll say for the people that don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics, I’m sorry for you. I’m sorry you can’t dream big and I’m sorry you don’t believe in miracles...” -Lance Armstrong.

When was the last time we saw such climbing feats? Let me see, oh yes, Lance Armstrong. Tadej breaks LA and Pantani's climbing records on consecutive days. This after dominating the Giro. This is not just better bikes or training. He is the new "Golden Boy" of cycling, so nothing to see here. I really enjoy all of you at GCN. I am just very skeptical of the cleanliness of Pogi and the rest of the peleton.

You can't ride the Tour de France on mineral water. “Jacques Anquetil”

Amazing performances, it's just like the 'good ole days' of the 90s...

Clean as a whistle! What a f@cking joke. Tour de Farce.

This isn’t possible! How could everyone close their eyes and ignore this unreal performance! I think Pogacar and his Danish counterpart are in a good medication… I can’t celebrate this guys… if I looked in the faces during the climb the most impressive fighting performance was in Carapaz eyes… he really showed pain and power and the willpower to win this. He has my respect

clean as a whistle those guys. Bread and water :D

Cycling news media needs to STEP UP and GET SOME INTEGRITY. Unless you're openly accusing these mutants of doping, I don't want to hear it.

Evenopoel is riding a smart race. Knowing third place and a stage win is a huge win for him

Man the pharmacology of today is even better than the EPO era. I think we all need to give a round of applause for the scientists that have given us these amazing results!! 👏🏻 🎉✊🏻

Everyone used to say Lance was clean

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Not suspicious at all to be 10% faster than anyone did on EPO and all the other doping they did back then. Without even looking particularly tired. Totally clean I'm sure.

I believed they are all juiced out of their minds. The greatest cyclists ever + most advanced bikes + TONS of PEDS = Record times. No doubt about it.

Pogacar eyeingup the vuelta too?? Absutely zero sign of fatigue after a giro win and 16 stages. . Just unbelievable...

Dan I love your race analysis and thoroughly enjoyed you when you called races like the Giro this year. You are clear and concise and give interesting information without the fluff. I think you belong in the booth calling all the races.

Must have been the 165mm cranks

faster than all the drugies from the 90’s. Thats kind of hard to believe

I struggle to understand how someone can do a 40 minute max effort after a day of insane racing, get off their bike, speak normally and look like they've done nothing... I've been following cycling for over 40 years. I understand the improvements in nutrition and equipment that have resulted in faster times. But the watt per kg numbers are out of this world....

It'd honestly be insteresting to know what kind of sauce they're on to get such performances.

Peleton lookin juicy again, multiple riders beating prime Pantani and Armstrong easily even after 5k meters of climbing. 😂

Having watched cycling through the 80s - 2010, I can;t help feeling that these "fastest ever" performances are as suspect as those in that era. What explains the sudden acceleration in terms of power / power to weight, speed numbers. I really, really hope I;m wrong, but I feel I;ve been here before. BTW, I;m a huge Pog fan in spite of the aprehension.

I dont understand how he doesnt look tired at all, hardly breathing just when he crossed the finish line. also when he talks about his performance, i dont feel it means much to him. this does not look good to me...

What a perfect thumbnail. There is new juice for a new generation, and the entertainment quality is just as high as it was under Il Pirata, the public is just out-of-the loop on how the solution is being applied.

Look at the last era of rampant doping, heroic seemingly effortless wins in grand tours, spectacularly fast spring classics. And what do we have today? Fastest ever Paris-Roubaix, record times on TdF climbs. There is a doping problem in 2024, the only question is how long until we know exactly what is being used.

I prefer it when the riders seem to be trying hard and are tired at the end.

doped to the gills

Pogi also has the Giro in his legs. 😆

So Pogi beat a doped up Pantani and Armstrong’s time but people think Tadej is clean🙄

Power from Pog was definitely historic, but at 24/26kmph, analysts of the TdF need to be looking at the effect of drafting on these climbs. Historically we wouldn't need to due to the gradient/speeds neutralising this, but this is going to change team tactics going forward. Jonas himself said this was his best climbing effort, but it was almost working against him because his speed was creating a draft for Pog to sit in and then go ahead to take the record.

I maintain - despite there being an element of luck, part of being a great champion is avoiding falling off or crashing. And avoiding falling off or crashing when riders who are good at that around you also avoid falling off or crashing. And having the physiology to recover well. Bike handling, reading the road, panache and nouse. Like Sagan. Unlike Froome.

I remember a Greg LeMond interview when he saw Armstrong smash it and leave Ullrich for dead. He said, he's not suffering. It was as clear as day. Then Pantani being told to cool it but then went balls out and stood out like a saw thumb. I hope for cycling this kids a genetic masterpiece, but fear that sort of effort followed by not being fazed or out of breath immediately after the stage leaves me fearing the worst.

As a new cycling fan, how does someone beat Lance Armstrong's ascent if he was doping so much?

thats is right..everyone playing down pog man like he is up against a sick injured man but jonas numbers are on par with what he produced last tour de france...nobody is mentioning that pog man came of the giro italia a tired man but still kicking azz..Pog did his highest numbers ever when visma was pulling with the american SO THOSE IN DENIAL PLEASE DONT GIVE ME THE JONAS SYMPATHY STORY

Based on the data / history, this was a good strategy for Visma. Pog just learned his lessons and I think prepared hard for both the Giro and the Tour. He has elevated his performance. Jonas has ridden great, no shame in his performance. He was just beaten by a better man.

jonas himself said that he put in the climbing performance of his life. that shocked me

Pogacar was faster than Pantini and Pantini was super doped. There is no way modern riders are doing it without doping.

Not normal.

Vingegaard with no Itzulia Crash '24 > Pogacar '24 > Vingegaard with crash '24 > Vingegaard '23 > Pogacar '23

It reminds of a similar rival in tennis between Federer and nadal. They dominated the sport, they were cordial and respectful with each other and other players. Players want to hate them cause they won everything but they couldn’t cause they were just nice people. This is definitely repairing the image of cycling this rivalry. Chuffed

Time to give Lance his titles back. 😉

Amazing performance but is anyone going to pose the question that we are all thinking - how are these performances possible with no performance enhancing drugs 4mins is alot "clean"

Plateau de Beille. for reference I did a virtual race through Rouvy on Saturday morning up this climb and it took an hour at a little under 4 w/kg. The elevation profile was the same. I was able to benefit a little from drafting and there was was no wind, no spectators throwing crisps, no flags or smoke bombs. I was giving as much as my body would allow - so yeah 39 mins is easily going to be around 7 w/kg. Now, if he had practiced beforehand he'd have known thhat there are two very short - maybe 100m each - descents during that climb.

❤❤no one expected Pogacar to smash all of the doped records of all time by over 3min. Smoked all of his predecessors records on this climb even though they were on epo, blood doped, and using growth hormones. Beat pantani by 3 and a half minutes, lance Armstrong by over 5min and countless others. This will almost definitely eventually go down as another tour of shame❤❤

Sepp Kuss not being part of the team at the tour has totally hurt Jonas Vingegaard. Sepp Kuss is Jonas key rider like George Hincapie was for Lance Armstrong. I believe if Sepp did not come down with Covid before the tour this tour would not be such a blowout and especially the past two mountain stages.

I hope he is clean but I must admit I’m a bit skeptical. He outperformed all the previous riders that we know were doping. Hmmm?

I want to see Tadej's actual power data. And Jonas'. If ASO required it released after stages, it would make the race more interesting.

Thanks Dan and crew...what a race !!

Pogacar is on a different level this year

No mention of drugs or mechanical doping in the discussion. Bizarre omission when Pantani was doped up to his eye balls when he did his time. Surely this performance can’t be down to training methods, equipment & diets 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ great to watch but there will always be a big question mark for me ⁉️

Pog is unreal, what a ryder! we love u Pogi u the best of the best...

Anyone else hearing that burp at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="586">9:46</a> ?! 😂

This is a big margin back to a doped cyclist. Pantanis hematocrit was high 50,s...to beat his record he would need equivalent and this cannot be achieved naturally. If you have ever been involved with doping you know this.

Thank you for the tactics overview. Indeed, a posteriori, it doesn't look great, but it was probably their best chance. Without a chaotic event, Pogacar wins; with a chaotic event, he probably still does, but it's your best shot regardless.

I knew he was doped when Amstrong put in performances like this. The facts just didn't add up. If this wasn't doping; I'd be very, very suprised.

Admittedly I am not a Pogacar fan. Dan you forgot to point out that Roglic, and Kuss are not there, and Wout is not in top shape. Having watched Pogacar in the Giro, and now the Tour. Something is not on the up and up.

If all those guys were faster than an elite doped rider (who was clearly the world's best climber in the late 90s) then you know what that means . . .

theyre on the good sauce !

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Pogacar now appears more dominant than Armstrong ever was

Why do I feel like it would be a good idea to be skeptical about this? Doping? Motor doping? I hope not, but there is so much cheating in pro bicycle racing.

This show is so great. Daniel is just a natural, the scripts are concise and on-point, the video editing is crisp and unobtrusive, and it's just calm and civilized. We're lucky that these episodes exist.

I appreciate you..great information..thanks!

I became a big fan of road cycling because of the last two years of tour de france. But these numbers are just crazy. They are definitely juiced. Over 3 min to pantani 😵‍💫 This stage unfortunately destroyed a lot of my trust into cycling, the tour and pogacar. These numbers are inhumane. Especially if you consider the giro and the covid infection not long ago. Same for jonas with his crash.

Still the same doctors/DS/staff from Rabobank and Saunier Duval 😉. Still I agree on the progress made across all variables. But not to the extent that the improvements are solely because them.

7 minutes faster than the doped Lance Armstrong ! LOVE that.

The tactics the other years have worked because of the team. (Vingegård Roglic, Vingegård Kuss) This year Vingegard have to do more him selves. Pogi only have to pay attention to one rider.

I really want to believe this is all legit but breaking records of known dopers by that much. Sigh.

Faster than dopers? 🤔I think something rotten in the state of Denmark

Solid argument and explanation regarding what happened on the stage... and what is happening for the remainder.

Faster than pantani yesterday on P de B by 3 minutes must be the bikes 😂

10% Better than the most well-known dopers in the sport’s history. Hmmmmm….

Give Pantani today's bike, nutrition and updated juice 😂 Pog and Jonas are using and he would have done it in 35 min

I honestly don't understand why people come to the comment sections just to slack off cycling as a sport and claim it is the hub of doping, unlike other sports... I am not saying that I believe Pogacar is clean, but people should also remember that cycling is actually the sport with the highest rate of doping controls in the world! One of the reasons we know about all the doping scandals is exactly that. Please imagine they would start doing such rigorous testing in Baseball, American Football, maybe even Football. It's ridiculous to believe all these athletes are clean. On top of that, people make it sound as if Pogacar and other cyclists just turn up to a race, take some drugs, race fast as hell, and don't sweat doing it. Doping doesn't turn a donkey into a race horse. This is still incredible performance, no matter what they take. It requires a daily dedication and hard work that is unbelievable. I would love to know which sports all these people watch and celebrate - because I am pretty sure that none of them are more 'clean' or 'unproblematic' from a health perspective

"Pogacar DQed and banned for X months/years for doping violations" is a headline I won't be surprised to see in the next while.

I think Poggi just need to loose time on purpose before it’s become a joke

Funny to think that Pogie would have dropped L.A. & Il Pirata (M.Pentani) had they been riding...😂 Simply put : Astonishing...!!😳

10 percent better drugs today then those days 😂

pogacar looking extremely fit. He’s looking the most fit in the peloton and that’s translated into performances

So let's see, we are meant to believe that Pogs ride that's that much faster than Pantani contador and Armstrong who were all proven dopers is a clean ride. Pull the other one 😂

From @muradtalukdar: “The last thing I’ll say for the people that don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics, I’m sorry for you. I’m sorry you can’t dream big and I’m sorry you don’t believe in miracles...” -Lance Armstrong.

I also think Remco exceeded expectations the most. Dude is riding HARD. Tadej and JV better watch out next year.

DOPED UP TO THE GILLS

So better pharma or worse tests ?