I love your videos and while I dont think anyone would argue that the red one is clearly inferior. I feel like when you put the yellow one together in your normal professional manner but as soon as you get to the red one you were like one of those folks on a bad infomercial that forgets how to do the most basic things, pretty disappointing TBH.
@juliojimenez99682 жыл бұрын
I saw it too
@thewayidoit88952 жыл бұрын
Sad, Jeff is a good man. It like your mom giving off those bad vibes when she doesn't like something
@mattyyoungcloudsart30082 жыл бұрын
haha! Totally felt the same. Obviously the cheaper one is gonna be inferior. Its about whether or not it'll do the same job not whether or not its better.
@michaelnoone15652 жыл бұрын
Yeppp. Felt like this was a sponsored video where he wanted to make the sponsor look good.
@lkripppler Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Saved me watching the video. I've had the Chinese one for 4 years, done around 6 houses with it and still going strong.
@ironmanonaninja30254 жыл бұрын
I bought a similar lift from Harbor Freight, works fine.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
I have been seeing a lot of good comments about the harbor freight model. Anyone buy the amazon unit? I am wondering what your experience is with that one. cheers!
@publicmail24 жыл бұрын
Had a cheap Chinese one on site we lifted a load up about 10 feet albeit overloaded it snapped and decapped a worker, his head rolled down off the landing and fell to the first floor out the door and into the street! A delivery truck ran it over and then a blacktop crew using a bomag roller ran it over. We call him headless Joe, he's still collecting workers comp.
@kakakmen9994 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY I`ve used a very similar model to the red one on my home renovation/DIY project for almost two years. It has worked fine for my use, although I`m cautious of not overloading or over stretching it. Would defiantly not use it day-to-day and lug it in and out of a van, but for the 150 USD I paid for it, it`s done reasonably well.
@gummislayer19693 жыл бұрын
@@publicmail2 Buuhahahaaaa!!! Good one!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@kenwhittaker49722 жыл бұрын
@@publicmail2 Yes!!!! I needed this comment!
@JCBuild4 жыл бұрын
Ive had the cheap version for 6 years now. Still as good as day one. £170 and i have used it on builds and conversions, around 1000 boards lifted and fitted with it.
@thewayidoit88952 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@michaelnoone15652 жыл бұрын
This felt like a hit piece more than a comparison. Like sure the American made one is almost for sure better. But I didn't see anything immediately wrong with the Amazon one for the average DIYer. It would be more useful to actually test these to failure to show inadequacies. Or even test them with actual drywall panels on them! I think you can do better.
@esexavo Жыл бұрын
they are 199 in amazon, I got one it wells for 399, i got it new for 120 from facebook market place, I am building a house, it wasn’t as cheap as this one, the wire was thicker, wheel was bigger, it actually locks very tightly , you really have to muscle it out of lock which i like, metal frames are thick and heavy. I hung a 1900 sqft home with one of these, now i have one for my next build
@oakoliver7183 Жыл бұрын
Definitely a hit piece. Just bought one for $200. Went together easily and helped me up up a dozen sheets of drywall by lunchtime with no help. Not a single problem and the thing will last longer than me.
@cambiumguy4 жыл бұрын
Diasppointed in your bias. THese are 2 differents machines for different market pro vs homeowner. I have used a homeowner version purchased at Rona for under 200$, It is solid, worked well for drywall and even plywood. I have used it probably 20 times in the last 15 years. I stored it in an heated barn and it has no rust,still works great and beats the 800$ of rental fees I would have paid. Almost seems you were paid by the American made model.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Not a bias. Homeowners face this dilemma. buy cheap or rent. I am trying to show the options so they are not disappointed with the purchase.
@franccamaj4882 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY -I have to agree with Cambium Guy. These units can still be purchased for around $200 today at Home Depot. I have a version of the red hoist and is just now breaking down after 20 years of use (25-30 projects). That’s a way better for the average diy’er.. you did come across as if you were paid, it literally went from how wonderful everything was with the yellow one to everything wrong with the red. The red CRUSHES the yellow for value.
@streetfiremkv124 жыл бұрын
Dramatic much? Lol. The one I rented from homedepot had the same lifting mechanism that te Chinese one does. I used it for days an had 0 problems. For real I think you were super dramatic about the chinese one. I would use that no problem
@1971mav4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisZomboid Grrrrrr. I'm angry about some stupid video.
@yrulooknatme4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisZomboid ...Hey like he said, You've been warned... Pros don't need to take chances..I new a big man who was on one of those cheap ass extension ladders working on a gutter, single story construction. The ladder buckled and he spend the rest of his days watching life from a hospital bed in his living room. The heavy gauge metal on those telepro lifts make them damn near impossible to damage. ( not to mention the steel is better and the welds are much stronger.) It's only wise to work as safe as possible... I doubt if you could legally take one of those chinalifts on a real job. I imagine Osha would not be very happy.
@dh664 жыл бұрын
@@yrulooknatme OSHA doesn't have a say in the equipment you use unless it's a safety device or was modified and is unsafe, ie: guards removed etc.
@Jrfusion084 жыл бұрын
@@dh66 Not entirely true. A vehicle isn't technically a safety device or would qualify as an item that's been "modified" but OSHA standards still apply. I think the poster is implying many of the Chinese products wouldn't meet the safety standards of OSHA and thus would be flagged on construction sites as unsafe to use and subject companies to lawsuits. Therefore, OSHA does have "some say" in what you use as it has to meet safety standards (regardless of whether it's a safety device or been modified).
@yrulooknatme4 жыл бұрын
@@dh66...I didn't know if that type of equipment needed certification.. That makes sense what you said ... thanks..
@AJ-ds5gf4 жыл бұрын
stop making it about america vs china. One product is just over-engineered and the other isn't. One is $1000 and the other is about $200. The inexpensive red one is completely fine for DIY use. No need to exaggerate the dangers.
@jonblakeman66364 жыл бұрын
Exactly this. The USA company also makes the cheaper one and it's their best seller so the US vs China thing just makes it look like that was the sole aim of the video.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
that unit from amazon is dangerous. they just did a recall on it. too many injuries! I am not exaggerating. If you want a better deal then go to harbor freight.
@jakeschroeder15534 жыл бұрын
I see how the yellow one would be safer however plenty of tools use cable/chain under tension (winch, come-a-long, load binder). They all work. Bottom line, you get what you pay for.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
It was the relative small gauge of the wire that scared the heck out of me. Cheers!
@lespotter43523 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a yellow version myself. Agree the red unsafe and cable too thin
@js93904 жыл бұрын
I actually bought the Troy version from Amazon for $120 USD delivered, and so far I have had no issues putting up 5/8 drywall (8 foot sheets) in my 750 sq ft basement I'm finishing. To rent one for a week was going to be $165 from the big box store so this has been a steal. It's obviously not as nice as a commercial unit, but for a one time job it is working well enough for this diyer. I even have a buyer lined up when I'm done for $50, so my total investment will only be $70.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
First off if you rent you only need it for 12 day for an entire basement. That is like 40 bucks. so lets talk apples to apples!
@js93904 жыл бұрын
Home RenoVision DIY my local rental price was $35 a day or $165 a week. But I will say is that the other benefit is that I can do this on my own time ( which helps a ton when I'm working an hour here and there with a 1 year old baby in the house!)
@js93904 жыл бұрын
@Home RenoVision DIY side note, thanks for all the videos! With your help I have been doing everything in my basement finishing project by myself!
@alecbosse64254 жыл бұрын
I have one of the Chinese Styled Ones that I bought locally at a hardware store in Toronto for about $200. It is a bit scary to use at first, but it worked out fine for me on several projects including rooms with 11ft ceilings. I personally think I got my money's worth from it. Would I prefer the higher quality one? Sure. But with care, the other was a good investment as it was less expensive than renting one for several times I needed it.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that info Alec, did you get it from Amazon or some other source. please let us know the brand name on it. not all Chinese products are the same.
@publicmail24 жыл бұрын
Had a cheap Chinese one on site we lifted a load up about 10 feet albeit overloaded it snapped and decapped a worker, his head rolled down off the landing and fell to the first floor out the door and into the street! A delivery truck ran it over and then a blacktop crew using a bomag roller ran it over. We call him headless Joe, he's still collecting workers comp.
@misplacedface27524 жыл бұрын
@@publicmail2 this is real?
@publicmail24 жыл бұрын
@@misplacedface2752 Yes tragic isn't it?
@whodat924 жыл бұрын
@@publicmail2 how many times you gonna post that overused comment that is low level funny?
@jessebuck904 жыл бұрын
I have a similar one from Harbor freight, but much better built, extra safeties built in, 150 bucks. Did my whole house with it. Still works awesome. But it's heavier gauge steel construction, better crank wheel. Still cable drive, but doesn't have rubbing issues. If you spent 400 on that you got the SHAFT.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
No doubt that was why I was so not impressed with it. I decided to buy it so that I could see what you get. The picture on Amazon seems so enticing. Now I know a picture can be very deceitful. cheers!
@stich19604 жыл бұрын
Same, as a general contractor I have put it through its paces, I dont do enough drywall to make the 1000 make sense. The cheap ones take some getting used to but I feel safe using it even with 12 footers. 400 was a rip off, maybe check out princess auto (I think they are the same as Harbor Freight)
@RRachwal214 жыл бұрын
I bought one similar to the red one at Harbor Freight for about $200. It works well. Now if I was doing this more often I would have bought the better one. However I have no complaints about the cheap one.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Robert the consensus is that the HF unit is definitely a better unit and worth the investment. Cheers!
@hubberjub4 жыл бұрын
I bought one of the $150 jacks off of Amazon to help while I renovated two apartments in a building I bought last year. It looks just like the red one in your video. The only major issue with mine was the latching mechanism on the base doesn't lock the wheels into place. Honestly, it's been great for me because I work alone, and doing ceilings is a PITA. I know it's not a professional tool, but it has more than earned its keep.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
This is not a paid product placement. Just Me trying to help you protect yourselves from a bad investment!
@publicmail24 жыл бұрын
That was obvious, as if it was paid at least from the china one, you would've had nothing but positive things to say. Just joking of course. But all kidding aside, you should make a gag reel of the chinese one, like supports swinging around and hitting you in the head, stuff like that, and then blaming it on product, it could be hilarious because no one would expect it from you.
@onebook48374 жыл бұрын
They stole a lot of our technology. They just changed a few things to make it seem original.
@DCHOY14 жыл бұрын
I've used both but I have a better China made product and cheaper than the one you used. China can make whatever quality you want cheaper but its the importer who decides what they want built and at what price. All in all a great clip but emphasizing or suggesting China made items are poor is not proper.
@pierre-marcrioux50154 жыл бұрын
@@onebook4837 Only thing comes from China... Fireworks. Period. They don't invent, they steal, cheaperize it and invade the World with those cheap knockoffs.
@tomawboss75134 жыл бұрын
I have the $200 Harbor Freight Lift. Works well, easy to put together. I felt you were playing to the camera while installing the "Red" lift in order to make a point. Any awkwardness in operating it or putting it together, if any, is worth it. There is a break on the lift and will only come down when the break is off, even if the cable snaps. Further more, there is not enough tension on the cable to "slice you right open". When the cable starts to show wear, replace it. I've been using it for years and will continue to do so.
@pmdude4 жыл бұрын
My local rental place rents a cable-pulled lift for $113.00 a week, while I was able to buy a used King for $100 off of kijiji. I have about 20 sheets to put up in my basement that I plan on putting up over the span of three months. (Empty one room at a time, clean, install drywall, mud and tape, paint, replace furniture, move on to next room) The expensive chain-driven one makes sense if you're a pro doing this day out or day in, or if you're ready to do the job in 2-3 days. I live in my fixer-upper, so the King was a better deal. PS. I'm not an idiot, I inspected the cable, I understand how it works, and will replace the cable or scrap the unit if it gets too damaged. P.P.S. You Overpaid! The King and Hausmann can be had in many places for $200 CAD taxes in. (Even Home Hardware has a $259.99 version.)
@natejm4 жыл бұрын
PM DIY - I agree that you made the right decision for you circumstance. I do think he oversold this idea you have to rent the expensive one, especially because most of the consensus is that the rental places only rent the cheap ones anyways... One thing you have to take away from this and all of his other videos though, is that they are directed at the common every day DIYers. So maybe some of his safety concerns he talked about will shed some light on some things to look out for. We use cable driven jacks to lift beams into place during major renovations, and it’s just instinct to inspect cables and operations before using these tools, where it might not be for average joe. So hopefully that’s a takeaway from the video. Another thought is that he mentioned it was $400 delivered to his house... if the product is truly that cheap, you’re paying a lot for shipping. I think I kind of lost where I was going with this... but maybe due diligence is just the bottom line. Read the manuals too.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
I totally get it. I am not saying there isn't room for a lift like that. Just saying in most cases it makes sense to rent than buy!
@seanr63144 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching your videos and I think they are great, but this one looked like a corny infomercial. Overly acted on how bad the cheaper version was. I’ve used the cheaper one, mainly because I only needed it for one basement ....and it worked fine.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
There are cheaper ones out there. But this one specifically is for sale on Amazon. It is junk. I would suggest buying the cheaper one from harbor freight. it has good reviews from our community. Cheers!
@ssmoot784 жыл бұрын
I’ve bought a similar one from Amazon, except it was yellow and the pin on the crossbar wasn’t painted. The bar definitely weighs more than 5lbs. I agree it’s a scary tool that feels like you could lose a finger if you’re not careful. But for me? A DIYer that only needs maybe a couple dozen sheets total? Totally worth the $169USD I paid for it. That’s gotta be much cheaper than renting as I renovate room by room over the course of months. At $400 there’s no way I’d consider it. And if I were a professional using it on a regular basis, then I’d get the quality version of course. It’s only a matter of time, and $1,000 is a lot cheaper than trying to get a finger stitched back on in the US.
@MohamedAli-py8lo4 жыл бұрын
You're right
@ahmedabuseyam23544 жыл бұрын
I did got one and it's $180 from harbor freight tools and it's working fine
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Cheers, I have been hearing good things about the harbor freight unit. not the same thing!
@o0Avalon0o4 жыл бұрын
My old boss would always ignore my advice and make me buy cheap tools (like this) for our team to use; after a younger guy got hurt, we started load-testing them before they even left the shop. The boss eventually learned it was cheaper to buy the better tools than buy multiples.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the benefit of not having workplace injuries. cheers!
@tonywagner48362 жыл бұрын
i did a 3700sq ft building using the cheapy model with the extension that allowed me to do a 14' cathedral with no problems . it is clearly not as well made as the pro model but it does function . you do need to be sure that your sheets are centered on the lift. The chance of ever snaping that cable at 150lbs is zero. The real issue is stability at height with long (14') sheets and the wheels not always lockimg up properly and having the lift creep a little out of position. especially on sloped ceilings. Both issues are manageable. Having said that, in hindsight, i would have saved time using the pro model. This week, i have two one room drywall projects and will use the light weight version.
@charlesherr10273 жыл бұрын
No bias there! I love the lame comments and hand movements that show the feigned frustration with the cheap model. Cable snap!? You think 50 to 100 pounds is too much for that cable? I certainly subscribe to the notion that if you are a professional doing that kind of work everyday, all day long, you should get the best equipment. If you are Harry Homeowner doing one small room, one time, rent or buy as you feel you must but, the lesser cost equipment is certainly viable.
@douglasmoore99183 жыл бұрын
Huge bias. Perhaps the yellow one is a sponsor? He is way too good at so many other things to be that incompetent in assembling a cable hoist. These "lame comments and hand movements" certainly show he wants to show his bias. What about products he wants to conceal his bias? I'd prefer an honest effort to make each one work as well as its respective limits allow. I cannot believe he doesn't know that the strength of 3/16 aircraft cable is well over the weight of a sheet of drywall of any dimension. (p.s. breaking strength is 3700lbs).
@stevena33332 жыл бұрын
True, especially being a safety second kind of guy.
@dolphinarentfish4 жыл бұрын
I used the Chinese one two weeks ago that I bought for $170+tax brand new here in Toronto. Had to lift a cut a 4x12 sheet of 1/2 around a wall and used 2 4x8 sheets of 3/4 plywood to support the drywall so it wouldn't snap at the cut out notch for the wall. It lifted all that plus about 30 pounds of zip tied water bottles I used for balancing not problem so I'm pretty sure it would be totally fine for an average DIY looking to lift 4x8 sheets of drywall 8 or 9 feet.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. I have no personal experience with this model. Nor do I have any plans of ever using it. Glad to hear that it works.
@bridgetsmith8474 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Jeff, you’ve joined Winnie the Pooh on the prestigious list of Banned Names on the Chinese Internet!!
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
That is fine with me!
@bridgetsmith8474 жыл бұрын
Home RenoVision DIY it should be! China number wan!!!
@chrissimon84034 жыл бұрын
I've had the cheap lift for 12 years and the spring is fine. They are absolutely worth the small price tag!
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Good to know. Was it the unit from China sold on Amazon or harbor freight?
@dlodge49664 жыл бұрын
chris simon I bet 12 years ago it was better quality
@chrissimon84034 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY It was purchased from King Canada.
@chrissimon84034 жыл бұрын
@@dlodge4966 Actually it is the same one.
@dagodone87144 жыл бұрын
I'm using the same exact one for the past 25 years not a problem not a loose screw bent anything
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
I call BS. Amazon wasn't around that long ago! Cheers!
@DoneRightReviews4 жыл бұрын
I love your channel, but the LOCATION of manufacture does NOT define the quality of anything.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
In this case it does. The American Company that designed it years ago has always been building a quality unit in America. This knock off was designed to look the same in a picture and is pure junk. If you want a lower cost option then but the harbor freight unit. it seems to get good reviews from our viewers. cheers!
@longwildernesswalks4 жыл бұрын
Well, it does. There's a reason why 'Made in China' resonates in the back of your mind as 'pure crap'. It's because they take American (and the rest of the world too) designs and 1/4 ass re-engineer things to the bare minimum. That's how China is as a society too. Just enough, is enough. No more beyond the absolute bare minimum.
@Psychlist19724 жыл бұрын
Not sure why the agenda against Amazon. They also sell the Panellift 439, "Made in America" chain-driven drywall lifter, delivered. Took 2 seconds to find it. My local hardware stores carry cheap stuff for rentals. It's typically pretty abused as well. Retail, they sell both the expensive one and the cheap ones. Importantly, they also sell the one from the yellow brand that is identical to the cable-based chinese ones in design and construction, and it costs almost $850. That design is what the manufacturer claims is the "original drywall lift", and they still sell it. Same manufacturer as the chain one. Presumably, it's the version the other companies copied. Point is, though, that whatever you say about the Chinese one here, also applies to the Panellift one that costs twice what you paid for the red one.
@Jrfusion084 жыл бұрын
I can almost guarantee you that Panellifts model is not "identical" to the Chinese one, similar but not identical. The Chinese cut corners at every point and have low quality materials whereas American companies have stricter standards that have to be met. However, the Chinese model does the job and is cheaper and for most homeowners that, unfortunately, will always be the determining factor.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Hi Pete, the Panel lift cable lift is a much better quality machine and uses a much thicker gauge airline cable. I am not hating on Amazon, just not impressed that they sell such cheap quality products. They seem to have no standard when it comes to what they sell. They would sell their own mother if it was allowed.
@SharpestBulbs4 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY hey. Just wanted to chime in here. Amazon doesnt actually sell anything other than amazon branded items. The rest of the site is just like Ebay without auctions. Many different sellers including chinese companies. You might know this but from your context, I'm getting the impression that you may not.
@cliftonshultz22534 жыл бұрын
I don't think the reference to Amazon is intentionally negative to the purchase, Amazon is one of the most used delivery suppliers that people refer to.
@jonblakeman66364 жыл бұрын
As I mentioned as well, the American company also sells an imported version of the cable operated lift, as in identical in every way to the cheapest version. Surely they would not sell a dangerous version if they thought it would harm their rep in any way. The test should include both/all versions from the USA company to be fair, not just be an obvious attack on foreign made products.
@landdon244 жыл бұрын
I guarantee you that most of the rental places have the cheaper one. So, rent the cheaper one, or buy the nice one, or buy the cheaper one. For me, I'm not going to hang drywall more than twice in my entire life. I buy the cheap one.
@ericwhite2654 жыл бұрын
Drywall is one of those jobs that if it's more than a couple sheets it's probably cheaper to just hire someone to do it. They'll knock it out in a fraction of the time and it'll look 100x better. It probably won't cost much extra either. I've heard from a few different people in different areas of the US that the cost installed was within anywhere from 5%-15% of what they would have spent on materials alone.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
I call BS. There is no way you can hire help to install for less than the cost of renting a lift. You are not giving enough credit to the homeowners skill set here.
@taichi72543 жыл бұрын
@@ericwhite265 typical install in Philadelphia region is ~ $8 - $15 sqft.
@scottgleason5724 жыл бұрын
I think your being way too Paranoid about that cable if you realistically look at what that size cable is rated for and also that cable will not have enough energy stored in it to come back and cut your arm off 🤦🏻♂️. All our rental places around here that’s all they have is cable ran units. Not as cheaply made as what you have there but same design yes chain driven is much more superior but the cable driven isn’t a “death trap”
@pierre-marcrioux50154 жыл бұрын
Maybe not an arm, but it will snap a finger off. Imagine if it gets to your face... Right into your eye... Rent one, it's just safer and cheaper on your wallet.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
if that lift has a sheet of 5/8 x 12' long 10 feet in the air you are darn right it will cause you some serious damage.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Hi Pete, elevators have breaks and I am pretty sure the cables are a wee bit bigger!
@jbonegw4 жыл бұрын
If you think that cable looks unsafe I hope you never work on or near Morgan scaffolding. 🙈😬😂
@Psychlist19724 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY I watched some videos about elevator hacking, some time ago. They mentioned that there are only a ton of cables in an elevator to give people peace of mind. Most only need one or two of them to lift and lower the elevator because the cables are stronger. It's exceedingly rare for the cables to break in any case. Luckily, they have all sorts of other safety mechanisms like brakes and soft landings and whatnot. But the american-sold cable version is just as vulnerable as the Chinese one. You made a bunch of arguments against the entire idea of cables in that specific use. Now it seems you're, pardon the pun, pulling back on that and saying "well, the US one has a better cable". I haven't seen it made, but I'll hazard to guess that cable isn't made in the US.
@michaelbock89084 жыл бұрын
Got one at a box store a few years back. $79.00+ tax. Chinese version. Take your time assembling and it works great. Watch that the cable doesn't bunch up on one side then slip. Will give you a heart attach. Dropping and locking the wheel is a pain. Mine seem to be better than the one shown here. $79 vs $1000.
@alecbosse64254 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had to learn the hard way to keep an eye on the cable position when winding. The first time it skipped, I just about had a heart attack. 😳 But once you are aware, the cable-driven one works pretty well.
@nman25634 жыл бұрын
It was way cheaper for me to buy the Chinese one for a two week job than rent one. It has really saved my backside and works well. Incidently it shipped from a store in Canada. I can sell it and make most of my money back.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
You might not have bought the same unit. Buyer beware the unit for sale on Amazon is a lower quality unit than a lot of other budget friendly options out there.
@FreeDumb1014 жыл бұрын
My uncle bought the one on the right from local hardware store (Menards) for $150 and it worked fine. He put up 30 sheets without a problem. I borrowed it and put up 3 12' sheets and 2 8' sheets without a problem. For the average homeowner or DYI'er, the one on the right works just fine and is worth the $150. It never felt cheap to me and if steel cables can hold up a bridge, I'm pretty sure it can hold drywall. If drywall is all you do then yeah, spending $1000 might be worth it on something a bit more sturdy. And who needs to go 16' high?? Most people aren't going to be building lofts...
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
I get it, however if the good product is available for rent at a reasonable price wouldn't you rather have used it!
@tomahack14 жыл бұрын
Paid 179$ for a king Canada at a major hardware store in Quebec. Works fine no problem.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
King is light weigth. don't call me when it cuts off your arm!
@tomahack14 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY The King is 100lbs versus 109lbs for the Panellift. Not exactly light weight. They also sell a cheaper model similar to the King at 3x the cost.
@str8shooter2904 жыл бұрын
For $400.00 I can hire a helper for 3 days.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
depending on where you live you might get a whole week out of that money!
@bridgetsmith8474 жыл бұрын
I uh, don't think that's legal anymore ...
@CorkKNIFE4 жыл бұрын
@@bridgetsmith847 $10 an hour? That's a lot more than some people make and if that's the only job you are paying hem for, you don't have to take tax out, they get the full $400.
@vanderumd113 жыл бұрын
@@CorkKNIFE then they get hurt and take your house. Happened to my uncle. Guy cut his hand with a skill saw .... Boom lawsuit
@CorkKNIFE3 жыл бұрын
@@vanderumd11 Well, you do have to pay for insurance to cover the workers but the insurance premium goes to the insurance agency, not the worker.
@dulow4 жыл бұрын
EVERYTHING SHOULD BE MADE AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE, NOT SIMPLER” - ALBERT EINSTEIN
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
I don't listen to advice form foilks who died before the technology age. Cheers!
@deanwilliams88574 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY That's a good point!
@takahm63684 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY so ture
@anthonysilva50154 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY I think you missed his point... The Chinese one is made simpler; reasoning is that it works but it isn't very well thought out... The meaning of the quote is to make it as simple as you can and it still be a good (whatever you made). If you make it simpler you end up with something that pseudo works but isn't that great. MikeTrack is defending your choice of which is the better.
@MrRondonmon4 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY No, that was good advice from an intelligent man. Einstein used sarcasm to make the point. In other words you could say the same think about a multi million dollar Jet, make it as simple as possible "not simpler" [THAN POSSIBLE], to be safe. If one has to spend 200 million to make it safe, spend 200 million, not 170 million {simpler}. I wouldn't use it either unless it was an emergency, I would rather grab a couple friends.
@andrewcarr24314 жыл бұрын
I rented one today for $30 for the weekend....did 6 ceilings with it, doing walls tomorrow....$30 is a heck of a lot cheaper than hiring 2 strong guys to lift drywall. Plus I can work at my own pace....I'm with you Jeff, that chinese knock offs in this case are not worth the free shipping you get from them
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
#notalone LOL, Cheers Andrew. I felt like I was talking common sense here but some guys need to put their safety at risk to save a few bucks. I think Rental is the way to go
@alexill4 жыл бұрын
A bunch of drywall fell on me once, I got *plastered* #cheers
@deanwilliams88574 жыл бұрын
That's funny! I hoped you didn't nailed as well.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Al! did you get plastered before or after?
@alexill4 жыл бұрын
Home RenoVision DIY lol nice one
@jboyd852 жыл бұрын
As another Jeff from Ottawa working as a contractor, commenting here feels a bit odd, but here I go: I inherited a similarly-made panel lift (Rona's Haussmann brand) from a retired contractor through Kijiji. He didn't even want my money for it. I then built a 1400sqft fire-separated walkout basement apartment with 12' sheets of 5/8ths. Even with 7'8" ceilings the process was terrifying. Now, it did the business and I'm grateful to have had it. That being said, nothing that lifts a 105lb panel overhead should need a pair of vice grips permanently installed over it's pulley to keep the cable from slipping off. What's more, when tension gets high, the wheel tweaks over to the side: you need to bend it back in line to keep the steel cable from fretting on the handle screw at every turn. If ever you need a piece of junk to stand between the other two lifts, let me know. I'll sell it to you for exactly what I paid ;)
@duncsindevon2 жыл бұрын
I agree, Jeff great instruction but way too biased against the cheaper version. Had one to plasterboard a 4 bed house with 3 meter ceilings and yes it was a cheaper alternative but with some minor modification and mechanical knowhow it was perfectly adequate for the job. Certainly don't need to go for a Rolls Royce solution unless you are doing this for a living
@shoey644 жыл бұрын
I have used the red lift just the other day. My boss bought it years ago. It seems to be safe we use it all the time. Have fun with the drywall.
@joemodley79344 жыл бұрын
I bought one use for $100 and have used it to hang sheetrock in three houses... it has been great, no failures or accidents so far
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, do you do this for a living?
@joemodley79344 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY I work as a carpenter for a contractor and flip houses and remodel my own rentals in my off time. I actually retired a little over a year ago, but had too much time on my hands so i gutted 3 of my rentals and rebuilt them, then decided to go back to work.
@jonblakeman66364 жыл бұрын
I got one very similar to the cheap one but only $120 (big box store). I'd never seen a panel lift before and had absolutely no issues putting it together (after perusing the manual) or using it many many times without a single issue over the last year. I usually like your vids but this one seems to have an agenda. Obviously the cheap one won't be as nice to use nor as longlasting I shouldn't think... but I wouldn't expect a Geo Metro to drive the same as a Rolls Royce (I've never actually driven a Geo Metro). But they'll both get you down the road.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
A;ll I am saying is, the danger involved is not worth the risk. I am usually a safety second guy bit this thing scares the hell out of me!
@willschultz54524 жыл бұрын
I have driven a Geo metro, only a 3 cylinder, not a bad car and very economical but pretty slow going uphill with the AC on LOL!!😂😂😂😂
@jonblakeman66364 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY But there is very little to no risk if used properly with some common sense.
@zhichen24634 жыл бұрын
Both functionally similar, but the yellow one seems operating smoother. I cannot comment on its safety because I have not use either. But the narrative was biased from the beginning.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
I am not a journalist. One look at that thing and you would have a biased opinion as well.
@ae1ae24 жыл бұрын
My sense was that the review was *informed* based on experience using the products before the camera was rolling. Yeah, there's *always* some bias, though we don't know which direction that bias goes simply from the final review. Maybe Jeff was really excited about the lower priced one (biased in favor of it), but then was deeply disappointed in the quality after he became experienced in using the product.
@JMaulding874 жыл бұрын
You guys are lucky to have options! My local rental place charges $70/day (additional $20 for insurance if it breaks while you have it) to rent the cheap version in this video! I rented it once, and it got the job done though.
@davidgoodman582 Жыл бұрын
I've used the Red one for years with no issues. If I was a sheet rocker who did it everyday I'd say Yes, buy the best. But for 20 sheets a year or less, I am very happy with the red one. It does have a secondary safety! If the cable breaks, 2 pins snap in to prevent it from falling. I have never felt at risk using the Red lift. I'm primarily a carpenter but I do it all. I took your advice on sound proofing a room for a commercial client and it worked great!
@pierredussf2 жыл бұрын
I just purchased the Troy BH1 for $200 from eBay fora home DIY job. I RTFMd. Limit is 150lbs and max sheet size is 4x8. I immediately made several modifications. A simple bolt, washers and nut hold the leg spring lock in place; there's no play. I may remove it and replace it with a through bolt; tighter. I braced to other two legs with angle iron; there is no wobble. I clamped the shaft to the base with a couple of hose clamps; no wobble. I checked the cable feed for rough edges; they are smooth. I check all cables and clamps routinely for wear; no breaks. I checked the brakes but also made chocks to lock the wheels in place; no slips. I put warning straps on all projections; no pokes in the eye. I wear a helmet; no bumps. I work with a partner; no hernias and no tip overs. You can work smart and safe or you can work stupid. I'm fine with it.
@Brackett084 жыл бұрын
I used one that was almost identical to the Amazon one - but was from a local hardware store. Finished the basement with it without it breaking. Big issue is that while you are lowering it, if your hand slips off the wheel and the break is not engaged it goes into free spin. 1 minor hand injury from the handle on the wheel spinning too rapidly.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
you got lucky!
@mikesmith23834 жыл бұрын
I’ve used something like the cheaper version there. I think it was from Harbor Freight. Used it finishing a basement. It was a little cumbersome, didn’t seem really unsafe, at the time anyway. Would definitely rather rent the better USA built if it was close to the cost effective option.
@zahrazahraa48974 жыл бұрын
👧👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇲🇦
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
IO have been hearing a lot of good things about that harbor freight unit!
@timbro89113 жыл бұрын
I have Been using the red one for 12years now almost everyday np.
@LosmiPZS2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever had a problem with it? Thinking about buying a cheap onr
@martylts4 жыл бұрын
I bought the American version and haven't regretted a second! I've used it for lifting a lot more than just drywall. My brother-in-law who is not a contractor rented one and put up all the full sheets with it. He then did all his cuts/partial sheets without the lift. If memory serves, he only rented the lift for one or Maybe two days. You only need enough screws in a sheet of drywall to hold it in place and then you can come back later and put the rest of the screws
@1971mav4 жыл бұрын
Looks like the cheap one they sell at Harbor Freight for just over $200.
@KenGettingerRealEstate4 жыл бұрын
You nailed it. I just saw one for $129 online.
@ernestpaul24844 жыл бұрын
It is. I got mine from a guy that after buying it realized he had 14' ceilings in his shop he was building. He put it on Craigslist for $100 NIB and I was at his house 30 minutes after I hung up the phone with him. It has been a back and time saver to say the least.
@jessebuck904 жыл бұрын
I have the Harbor Freight one. The design is similar to this one much MUCH better built and has more safeties built in.
@hansjensen78234 жыл бұрын
Now I have ‘right out of the gate’ stuck in my head, wonder how many times I will say it tomorrow? 🤣
@jasonwomack40644 жыл бұрын
The harbor freight model is built better than this cheap one, and is half the price at about $200.
@thewayidoit88952 жыл бұрын
Love ya Jeff. In 2022 now I bought a lift for $200(USD) It's mine, I don't get billed if I don't return it Yada Yada Yada. It lifts drywall. Worth every penny even if I send it for scrap at the end.
@sheilam49644 жыл бұрын
I like comparisons like this. It's not something everyone can do for themselves. It's nice that you can to this comparison for us. Thanks.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Sheila, just trying to give some perspective on things. Amazon has no quality control on the products they list!
@reagannelson52643 жыл бұрын
I just used the cheap one to put all the drywall up in my new shop and it performed well. It was the only type my local rental company carried. Even Home Depot rents a cable style lift. Your review seemed very biased. It is like comparing renting a Cadillac to buying a Chevy Malibu, both get you where you want to go, but the Malibu will do it for many years. I agree that if you are a professional, you should invest the extra money in the better equipment, but your channel is targeted toward the DIY bunch.
@emergency564 жыл бұрын
i own the cheaper one. i payed 150$ and put maybe 300 sheets of drywall on ceilings for the many years ive had it, not much but so far its done the job. i knew what i was buying and i am kinda amazed it held up so far. still going strong. but its not gonna do 100 sheets a week nor am i... lol
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
I don't think you have the same thin metal one that I bought then. This one seems to be ilt just for sale on Amazon. The picture looks comparable but I think someone is making a lot of money by putting people at risk., Cheers!
@iamamish4 жыл бұрын
IMO it's not really an American-made vs. China-made, it's a simple difference in cost & material quality. Where the product is made is a bit of a red herring. Appreciate the thoughtful reviews though - made me realize that I'll probably just rent one for my next project. I made the mistake of doing my kitchen ceiling with my uncle just holding the drywall in place. My arms ached for days afterward.
@bobtribe2 жыл бұрын
He's got some infomercial acting skills... "Are you sick and tired of drywall lifts that are difficult to put together!?"
@50Druiden4 жыл бұрын
I love how China is portrayed for crap quality, they manifacture for different qualities. If someone in China builds a quality product its gonna cost about the same as a good american product. But then there is added shipping, special manufacturing since US dosent use metric as the rest of the world and fees to export it to the USA. Thats why you rarely see really good quality from China. They do make them. Look at your electronics , batteries etc
@stans52704 жыл бұрын
Iphones are made in China.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
They make products in 2 different situations. quality and cheap for those looking for a deal. Do you want to risk it?
@WYnWest4 жыл бұрын
The misconception is China is crap. The truth is stuff is made to order. The marketer decides they can get away with fewer rules in China, less oversight, and harder to sue. Marketer has no assets, just go under and come back tomorrow. The local (American or Canadian) company has worker safety rules, minimum wage, name and brand to protect, reputation, minimum standards, etc. Buy quality not junk, except for that truly throw away item such as any clothing I wear while I do diy!
@jonblakeman66364 жыл бұрын
And the USA company that makes the more expensive one also makes the cheap one and imports a version of the cheap one. If they thought they were dangerous or not fit for purpose they probably wouldn;t have them listed as their best seller. Maybe a fairer test would have been to test the two versions from the same company!
@stans52704 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY If you buy an $80,000 Mercedes, no one expects the quality of a $17,000 Kia, but when you buy a Kia, it still functions WELL, at Kia standards. Your usage of "You get what you pay for" is problematic when you say that while providing FREE content.
@Lindenjohnson4 жыл бұрын
I bought one similar to this at Menards, been using it for 10' 5/8 and it seems to be working well. Definitely going to be paying more attention to that wire though.
@underscr0e11 ай бұрын
I have a cheap wire one….have a 12’ piece of drywall sitting on it right now waiting for some materials to continue. It’s been working fine so far, I am not a professional but it does the job just fine….u r right…the wire sketches me out but it works.
@MakeWithMike6 ай бұрын
Mine was 150 delivered 11ft have a test video i just posted as my last one as if this vid,good demonstration and compassion of comparison! 👍 👌 🆒️ 👍 Only using for one job
@Troupster4 жыл бұрын
I fell off my chair while watching this video and got injured because of that red monster. Don't buy it!
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
LOL, feel better soon. cheers!
@sonnynguyen80123 жыл бұрын
😂
@MrWizards19743 жыл бұрын
Check your facts. MythBusters proved that even a cable under several thousand pounds of tension could not "slice you right open" You're making that amazon lift out to be way more dangerous than it actually is. Maybe read the instructions before ham handedly thrashing about. "Be sure to read, understand and follow all the safety rules that come with your tools. Knowing how to use your tools PROPERLY will greatly reduce the risk of personal injury." -Norm Abram.
@abadgerardo4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the Safety warning. You are correct , checking on Safety is priority # 1 before using any equipment.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Cheers, taking some heat on this video. Not sure why folks think I am getting paid to have an opinion.
@paulchalk26554 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff. I agree with you, the US made lift is the best joice for a contractor/builder, however, having used the other imported one and being a DYIer I would buy the other one. It works and will only break if misused. The other point is a contracted can expense the lift, a home owner can't. Money means much more to a home owner.
@carverdahlin27283 жыл бұрын
We have an an older American yellow model that's the same brand as your new one. It is a cable system, the same as the red Amazon one, it works great. I think the chain system is nice but I don't like how bulky and heavy it is. I don't like the second wheel either, find it gets in the way.
@bradmaas68754 жыл бұрын
I bought one from harbor freight. Did my 1800sf house, no problems, no issues. Worked fine and easy to carry up and down stairs. If I were doing it as a professional I might spend the money on the heavy duty one..
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Cheers, the harbor freight one seems to get a lot of respect, curious about the amazon experience. since it is a different model.
@bradmaas68754 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY HF lift looks a lot like the Amazon version. lifts 150lbs to 11'5". Getting ready to do my garage with 10' ceilings next. Not sure who might climb on it though.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Brad, turns out the HF unit has a safety catch on it. A much safer unit for sure. Cheers!
@maxrybold15314 жыл бұрын
The red lift works perfectly fine, for DIY projects and the yellow one is over kill for such projects. Also I used 5/8" 4 x 12 with the red left and it worked fine. The contact of metal on metal is alarming but then again its good to know/see that the wires are twisted... Also yes the cable could snap but one could say that the chain could derail and _____________.
@kylezeiger76724 жыл бұрын
I bought the same one on amazon for like $175. I did about 25 sheets with it and when the project was done, it was just flat worn out. It seemed to be lopsided, parts were bent, it was just garbage. Probably wiser to buy the higher priced one if you hang drywall
@markmckinley59894 жыл бұрын
I paid $126 delivered for similar. Cable does not rub if wheel extended to proper location. Yes a heavy duty tool is better but how many folks go much higher than 10 ft? Heck of a lot safer and easier than 2x4 tees in my opinion. And when my project done I can sell for very close if not more than I have in it. I get that you have to promote in return for free tool but the scare tactics unwarranted.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, There was no deal to promote this tool in that way. I decided to buy the amazon tool and do this comparison since i was hearing from the community that they were buying it instead of renting.
@yrulooknatme4 жыл бұрын
The old telpro used the cable too and I used mine alot and owned it for over 20 years. I never had a problem with the brake or the cable or anything on that. You can load a sheet and hang 12 ft. walls. That's what those two little rubber feet there keep it in position. The new design with the chain looks good. They are very sturdy unlike the knock offs.. and when I sold mine It was ridiculous trying to get a good dime outa it because of the cheap ones... finely found a buyer who paid me a little better but not near what it was worth and he knew he was stealing it from me (cause he told me so). but that's okay ... He was a pretty good guy and he was just starting his business up. Probably more than just heaver gauge steel but a better quality steel too. Man that thing was strong and stable. I think this is great content.. Anybody that thinks those cheap knockoffs are a good deal must not have seen an accident on a construction site. Those cheap ones are like a guy driving a motorcycle... It's not if he's gonna have an accident , but when!!!
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
That is all I am saying. don't be fooled with the picture. it is not the same thing. Cheers!
@jonk8994 жыл бұрын
I bought a red version (King Canada, under $200 all in, watch for sales) lift five years ago. Used it for at least 20 different ceilings and I am totally confident using it. It follows me to each house I renovate. I have saved thousands in rental and transportation costs. Spend your money on a nice vacation rather than worrying about expensive tools. It is a pain to store, but it is a good unit to have to lend to buddies, trading/lending tools beats renting. The cable will break after 2500 lbs. Not an issue.
@MrJohnweez4 жыл бұрын
I think my safety is worth the extra money.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
say that! Not a lesson you want to learn the hard way!
@michellecsiernyik52004 жыл бұрын
That shldve been the title of this vid!
@thompsonmaclean8824 жыл бұрын
had mine for 10 years and love it
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
From Amazon or harbor freight?
@teemo1222224 жыл бұрын
Bruh, I don't even renovate but here i am taking in the information like a sponge.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
soak it up. the world needs to change its buying habits!
@fd38714 жыл бұрын
meh, this is one tool I never see a homeowner needing to buy at all.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
That is why I suggest to rent instead of buying the cheap one. it is enticing to own tools but this one is just not worth it. Cheers!
@audisoundproductions2 жыл бұрын
He’s is totally right, I’m a drywall installer and I did use the red one few times, very poor quality, mine broke quickly, the cable got tangled and stuck, i had to buy the good one (yellow) to after 2-3 jobs, dont waste your money
@jackgoetz14044 жыл бұрын
Bought the ARKSEN brand Chinese one on amazon a few years ago. Have used it quite a bit. Yeah, the cable is a bit sketchy, but it's worked quite well. I try to be careful with it so as not to cause the cable to stick or slip. Definitely worth the 136 bucks I paid for it (currently looks like it's 170 on amazon). Mine was yellow, the current one is red. Only real problem I had was with the initial assembly. Some parts took a bit of persuasion to go together the first time (probably paint overspray).
@bhnn79913 жыл бұрын
Just a note on the PanelLift lifts. I have a very similar PanelLift Model 138-2. It is cable driven however designed such that if the cable should break (which with the design of my unit is highly unlikely). Just like the PanelLift model in this video, the load will not drop. My PanelLift Model 138-2 cost around $700 so is a little more reasonable for a homeowner like me that wants Made in the USA quality and doesn't mind paying for it. Thus far it has been a great unit and is very stable and well built.
@akquicksilver4 жыл бұрын
My wife and I were using one of the lifts made from Chinesium to hang the ceiling in my shop. She was manuevering the lift while I was up on the ladder (10 ft) and the brake released, dropping a 4X12 5/8 sheet down on her head. That was 20 years ago and she still has pain from the bulging disc in her neck. If it hadn't been borrowed, I would have dropped it off at the dump.
@miketalley5054 жыл бұрын
Thank for pointing this out
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Mike!
@chodge83664 жыл бұрын
bought one from Harbor freight. the cable is a little sketchy but there is a safety mechanism at the rear that locks the shaft as it rises and you must disengage it to lower it,
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
At least there is a safety latch. Cheers!
@chipb11934 жыл бұрын
Here in the US they have that same (or very similar) lift for $140 on sale at Northern Tool. The question is how to modify/fix the flaws of the unit. Could you make a guard to cover the cable? Could you put a better guide system in place? Remember steel cable is used to pull 4000 lb vehicles onto flatbed trailers (different thickness obviously). Owning vs renting is the difference between having to finish and wanting to finish. If you’re doing projects in phases, your rental cost could get quite high. Honestly, looking at the flaws of the unit and what I’d try to correct them, I’m more interested in the cheap unit after watching this video. Cheap Harbor Freight type tools often need modified.
@vrjersey4 жыл бұрын
It’s $165 on Amazon and has 4.5 star rating.
@MariuszChr4 жыл бұрын
If we talk about renting vs cheap stuff (otherwise no sense for diy) - hell yeah, totally agree. I was thinking about buying one of these but I asked myself - where the phoque I am going to store this afterwards?! I rented good quality, heavy lift in popular store for 40 bucks for 24h and did 3 rooms with it... I mean, entire project ;-)
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
That is the conversation.I agree you can install a lot of ceiling panel in 1 day for cheap. Cheers!
@coasttocoastaffordablehome69552 жыл бұрын
Yeah I got one from Harbor Freight it works perfect I love it
@roypeters15454 жыл бұрын
Harber freight sales them for $200 work fine but 4x8 sheetrock was as big as I used on it
@dh664 жыл бұрын
Jeff, I respect what you do for the DIY community and I've learned a lot from you.. However you're way off base on this one and the sponsored content makes you look like a shill. I'm disappointed in this one. FYI, a 1/16" aircraft cable has a breaking strength of 480 lbs while the cable in that machine has a breaking strength of a whopping 6100 lbs.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. However It was my idea to buy the amazon lift and show the difference. I was not paid to do it. I wanted folks to have a better expectation of what it looks and works like than just a picture. Cheers! I stand behind my comments!
@fliporhold4 жыл бұрын
Wow.. Thanks for the warning
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Not a sponsored video!
@WesCameron-lx9xh2 ай бұрын
I bought a similar red lifrer at adss building supplies. Worked for 2 years with it as an installer before 1 of the wheels broke
@davidscottshaughnessy3588 Жыл бұрын
Feels like a lot of the comments overlooked a main theme he was advocating...."if you are only using something very infrequently, RENT the easy and safe one vs buying (and storing) the knock-off brand.
@berto316life44 жыл бұрын
6:19 looks like you caught a fish 🎣 😂
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
LOl, Cheers!
@brokassqcislander4 ай бұрын
Have used many, the American made version I used was best, it was cable driven and went up 11… the cheaper ones have smaller plastic wheels and thin metal, the extension arms will bend over 1-2 moderate sized jobs, it will lift a 16ft sheet of 1/2” but a 12’ sheet of 5/8” fireguard will scare you with amount of tension on system… generally leads to bending both the extension arms and the main spool. The 16’ lift version you show here is a beefed up model. Most have an 11 and 16 option which is just a longer cable and another lift telescope… if you are just doing one job for yourself w 1/2” board maybe the snackmaster version is ok😅 but if you buy quality tools that last, spend a bit more and look for the traits I explained and you will have it for years… my 2 cents. Thanks for the review… these lifts are very good, worth every penny if you buy a nice one… one person can pick up a 16’ in the center and load it onto the stirrups, and board a ceiling by yourself, they can also be used to board the upper walls, and last sheet goes in down low and lifted tight w yer foot lift… that’s how the pros do it…
@TalonGaming_YT2 жыл бұрын
I bought the Metal Tech model from Princess Auto for $330 or so. They also have a cheaper model. In any case, the construction seems much better, although it still does use a cable driven system.
@patrickqueenan46692 жыл бұрын
I bought the cheap one. Use it once a month. Works fine. The other one is to heavy to move from job to job.
@worldline7147Ай бұрын
I would argue that it generally isn't feasible (or affordable) to rent a drywall lift (from Home Depot, et al.). You'd be better off just buying one of the Chinese-made lifts - no mad scramble to finish hanging all your drywall, with stress, at top speed, while saving a great deal of money. This is what I did while constructing a genuine (not a contractor "soundproofing" reno, cough-cough) optimally-soundproof studio that required a lot of drywall, in layers. The lift performed just fine.
@paulstone76553 жыл бұрын
The latch at the top (which stops the lift going up) is there for during transportation.
@technosaurus38054 жыл бұрын
I just use 2 furring strips with long skinny nails/screws down the center. Put one furring strip in place with just enough space to slide the drywall in (use a scrap piece to gauge it). Use the 2nd furring strip to lift and screw it in place. Remove the 1st and repeat. It's easier if you're tall but normal height ceilings can be done this way with a small step ladder (I may or may not have used an upside down bucket once or twice) or a full size step ladder on taller ceilings if you are really athletic or have a helper. I have access to a lift, but this way seems to go much faster, so I never use it. I'm sure a lift is safer, easier on your back and probably required by OSHA, but quick and dirty gets the job done.
@vernonjustus85293 жыл бұрын
actually bought the one from harbor freight. used it once and had no problems. have plans to use on 1-2 more rooms and then our ceilings are done. paid under 200 and will put it on facebook or craigslist and take what i can. certainly not for professional use but would do it again if i only had a few times i needed it. rental of the one you recommend is 4080 per day here in okc. home depot has it for 750 to buy
@NancyBryantIdeas4 жыл бұрын
I am with you on this, That cheap one does not look safe.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY4 жыл бұрын
Turns out is not available on Amazon anymore. Too many injuries!!!!!!!