EDIT: The long awaited follow-up video to this is now live, the Acaia Lunar review: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rp9oabKBz9nNYoU.html Hey Acaia if you see this, feel free to send a review unit for a proper side-by-side ;) Comment below what scale you're using!
@coffeewithcarl17793 жыл бұрын
Acaia pearl model s, but I don’t do espresso. Would definitely buy this coffee scale if I did :)
@loinorn3 жыл бұрын
I use TANITA KJ-212. Even 0.1 grams of this scale can be measured. Quick response. I have some unuse scale...
@garciatony3 жыл бұрын
The Amazon scale looks like a great option. I purchased the Rocket Appartamento from Whole Latte Love and with their rewards program I was able to get the Acaia Lunar for free. So have no complaints.
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
Wow for free? That's awesome!
@jdraven08903 жыл бұрын
I have an Escali that I need to replace, It's just not accurate enough and was clearly the weak link in my process. And now I know what I'm getting thank you.
@furiousbane3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone is saying that it makes no sense to pay this much for a scale!
@taroman7100 Жыл бұрын
It's just chic.
@tommyboy4128 Жыл бұрын
I have the Lunar and absolutely agree with him…. Way overpriced for what it is and what it does. Save your $ and look for other alternatives like the Greater Goods. It’s sheer snobbery honestly to waste your money on the high end scales
@fromtheflightdeck2526 ай бұрын
I didn't pay too much either, on my coffee channel ebikeCNX7239 I use a $27 Wacaco Exagram. Only $27 uses 2x AAA batteries and is accurate to 0.1g with a timer function for my espresso shots. EbikeCNX7239
@greysuit176 ай бұрын
Value for something despite the $$$ is in the eye of the beholder. What may seem ridiculous to you may not be to someone else. Price is not always the defining factor.
@DuBstep1159 күн бұрын
@@greysuit17value is production costs - msrp = profit. If scale costs 30€ to make and you sell it for 300€, its not good value
@acupandpages46423 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree. When I worked as a barista, I got a chance to use the lunar and besides being water-resistant(not officially) it's not any better than many other scales out there. I gotta admit, it's a good looking scale though.
@anthonyalles18332 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I bought the scale you recommended and you're right, it's pefect for pulling my espresso shots. I sent back a much more expensive scale I had bought previously. It had a lot of nice features, which may well be useful for folks with complicated pour-over protocols, but are not at all relevant to just pulling espresso shots; it was also too big for my espresso machine!
@MrCakers3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. Never saw the logic on dropping so much on a scale. If you browse all the reddits and go deep in youtube most people just use scales in the 10$ range.
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
the only time I could justify that is if I had an LMLM with the custom cutout drip tray that fits the lunar 😂
@dsmpampis3 жыл бұрын
Right on point Xris! I have also a small scale that cost 25€ and it has a timer too! Better to spend money on a naked portafilter, a milk pitcher, a good tamper, a precision basket and a shower screen and you still have money left to buy a fellow atmos and a bag of coffee 😉!
@athenasblueprint2 жыл бұрын
I love my Greater Goods scale! I got a different model for about $22. Larger black scale with nice bright easy to read display, and it's big enough for me to do pourover and measure cold brew on including water. Been using for 6 months with no issues and haven't even changed the batteries yet.
@toneadk46er463 жыл бұрын
Hi, Xris. Just getting started, researching home espresso, and I find your content to be very useful and enjoyable. Keep it up!
@JonneytheKiddАй бұрын
I have this exact scale. It works really good. Just make sure you don't get it wet, i ruined mine and had to order another one. Very responsive and zero to no latency.
@givemekape24183 жыл бұрын
Bought that amazon scale after seeing once of your videos. It absolutely gets the job done, and so far I see no reason to spend $$$ for a nice one
@jackieliu12323 жыл бұрын
I used this scale for more than half year now, it kinda half broke after the first few weeks after i spilled coffee on it, It still works but the numbers are extremely hard to read, I need to turn my iphone camera flashlight on it in order to read its number, there are no other way for me to read it. It’s not the best but it’s still an amazing value for what it does. I put up with it for couple month and finally had enough and just purchased the timemore scale to replace this couple days ago
@damianhbk13 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this upload. I was trying to convince myself I needed to get a $200 scale but couldn't justify the pricetag! I already have an affordable scale that works like a charm but this would be a great back up if my other goes out! Thanks again! Cheers!
@ai-fx2st3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I was the same until I saw this video today. Acaia out!!!
@jkdelrio3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Ive been searching for something and cant possibly justify the Acaia price!!! Going right to amazon and purchasing. BTW -- who would DISLIKE this video or saving lots of $$$ HAHAHA people with deep pockets or Acaia sales reps? LOL ♥
@EvanEggnog3 жыл бұрын
This video hit all the reasons I don't want to spend over $200 on a scale, and also recommended something that will fit under the group of my apartmento. It was also pleasing to the eye, and passive aggressive af. 10/10 subscribed
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
i strive for pleasing and passive aggressive
@HappyAccidentVideos2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to espresso, it’s more about if the scale skips decimal points of a gram in order to keep up with the speed of the shot. With a good scale, you’ll be able to see the numbers change by .1, whereas a cheaper one might go from .1 to .6 in an instant.
@erwinjosue54372 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. You don’t need an expensive scale just to get a good espresso. A simple scale and you timer in your phone (w/c every has one) is all you need. You can also find an app that can do countdown timer.
@jfiazy2 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this bro. all love from sydney Australia. never understood why everyone uses such ridiculously high priced scales for no reason just fancy branding.
@DustinVang3 жыл бұрын
this scale works so well, so simple and at such a small price. I love it. Glad I used your link to get one :)
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the support!
@stevegee2183 жыл бұрын
The one I use - Amazon - Weightman Espresso scale with silicone bowl $15. The Scale sits in a silicone bottom case, so the backsplash dose not hit the scale from under the drip tray when 3-way valve triggers. It dose have a timer start/stop function button also.
@miketaylor39472 жыл бұрын
Thank for this vid! I've been considering upgrading vs using the scale that I have. Two points, good luck measuring anything out to the tenth of a gram so in my mind the purported tenth of a gram precision is overkill. Second, another easy tare solution is to just remember the weight of your portafilter and cup and do the pre-school math to know what an 18 g dose and a 36 g shot is (assuming an 18 g double shot basket in the portafilter).
@erikvasquez99975 ай бұрын
Been looking for a nice little scale for my home espresso bar, was using an old amazon basics one that for the most part has worked like a charm for being $9 but due to it's shape and size stuck out a lot when placed under the machine so wanted a nice little scale and this ticked off all the boxes, looks like the price has gone up to $23 bucks but had a $10 amazon gift card so I ordered this right away, can't wait to try it. Thanks for the recommendation!
@MikeFLHT3 жыл бұрын
Well said! I bought one off of Amazon with a timer and it's fantastic. 12 bucks also.
@MisterDevin2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.. for ending a several hour long quest to find a great and affordable scale that would fit my needs without sacrificing accuracy or quality.
@leightonpitman5193 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing how quickly it measures!
@iainmartin97242 жыл бұрын
Mate. I’ve been looking for a fast scale for brewing with the PicoPresso when travelling. This looks perfect. Ordered today. Thank as always.
@Kraize923 жыл бұрын
Two things to keep in mind, water proofing in case something spills (will be hard to clean oils out of this scale) Some more expensive scales have a better way of handling how the weight "plate" and "base" works which allows for either more accurate reading depending on where you're putting in. For example, cheaper scales use 4 corner points on the bottom instead of using the full base + plate to calculate weight.
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
While I'm not sure how this scale functions with regards to the 2nd point, I have spilled water on this scale and its held up!
@ChristopheLimpalair Жыл бұрын
@@itsxris even if it doesn't hold up to a spill, just buy another one lol. You could spill and have to re-buy 5 times and it'd still be cheaper than some of the other scales out there
@ai-fx2st3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Xris. My sentiments exactly. I had been looking at the Acaia for a while now and just couldn't justify dropping $200 plus for a scale. Just ordered the $12 scale via your link. I am currently using my Vitamix branded scale and needed a smaller one for my espresso machine. :-)
@Jason-lp1rx3 жыл бұрын
I remember an app (I forget his name) that detects the sound of the coffee machine, automatically starts the timer and automatically stops it.
@zilliq Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that the display is on the side, it's a neat feature ! I wish somebody made USB-C version of this model, we're getting rid of batteries altogether in our house so I can't justify buying this
@NANA-gy7yx Жыл бұрын
The first scale I bought from a tea shop in Malaysia.. it was around 10usd. Been using it for a few years now... I dropped it countless times and even had water in it to the point rust formed on the battery ends! it is still working and very accurate ...it even measures 0.01g. The only issue is the max load of 200g. I bought another one, which is basically the same scale but with different branding and I think it is 500g. I have two more that are more expensive and geared towards coffee users, I never use them, I'm just using the accurate cheap scales...oh and they are really fast and don't take up space.
@MyHam-os4bq2 жыл бұрын
I stopped thinking about it right at the app part. Apps are not needed for every single electronic product or appliance. Thanks so much for this review!
@wfujay3946 Жыл бұрын
One problem I've noticed with these cheaper scales that seems to be common is scale drift.
@ChristianPeper2 жыл бұрын
Haha I love your commentary man! Rock solid and on spot! "while most people will look weird at us while we measure weigh and time every drop coming from a machine" :D So true... so true. thanks for this review, exactly what I was looking for as I'm about to participate in the Dutch Brewers Cup 2022 prelims 😊need to practice making 3 brews at the same time. well almost at the same time, cascading. so I need 3 scales. 3 x 225 = heart attack whereas 3 x12 = very doable
@sevenday74043 жыл бұрын
You are so right. You can also complicate the whole thing unnecessarily
@langzhi18733 жыл бұрын
I bought a small $10 scale & a $10 timer that can magnetically attached to my machine and they work great. No need to fork out $200 more for such a simple set up. I also have a $25 scale that has a timer built in for pour over, works perfectly as well.
@natevirtual2 жыл бұрын
Hi would you please link both scales?
@sunvalleydrivemusic3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’m gonna try this scale. The only thing I would add that attracted me to the Acacia is the waterproof aspect. I’m on my second cheap Amazon scale in as many months because the scale has gotten wet under the machine a few times and bombed. So, there is a case to be made there. Not a $250 case…but let’s see how many of these scales I go through.
@athenasblueprint2 жыл бұрын
Greater Goods has a larger black scale that comes with a thin silicone mat cover to protect it from most liquid spills. I've spilled on mine before and although I cleaned it off quickly, it's been working great ever since.
@DonkeyBuildingWarchest10 ай бұрын
I use the scale for the last year also and it's perfect. Funny to find this video. I was completely confused as to why people are spending $150+ for what are often bulkier thicker scales.
@aryah1513 Жыл бұрын
Put the cup on the scale before you turn it on to auto-tare. Not sure about that exact scale but mine does it.
@kellypg3 жыл бұрын
I really felt that the bit where you kept misspelling espresso in the Google search 😅
@peaceful3250 Жыл бұрын
I've been using this scale for about 2 years and it has never let me down. The only thing that I'm wary of is that it isn't waterproof.
@hooka2k3 жыл бұрын
Glad to know I’m not the only one who stores my frothing pitcher in my snake plant 🪴
@thesoundpurist3 жыл бұрын
Aaah ah comment of the day!
@okayfrankie2 жыл бұрын
😭💀
@duyman81983 жыл бұрын
Been in the espresso game for over 5 years and i have come to realize whatever accessories related to espresso are overpriced af
@doc81253 жыл бұрын
Ok, a few counter arguments here. Firstly, the lunar is way smaller, which is needed when you use something like a flair or other lever machine that has limited space for scales. Second, the flow rate tracking is again quite useful for lever machines as they are much more inconsistent, so it would be a good tool to know "ok, this shot was very good with this flow profile, so I can try and replicate it next time". Third, it pairs with the smart profiler for lever machines and decent espresso machines (the brand decent), when you combine an acaia scale with these setups you can get the most accurate profiling of espresso shots, especially on lever machines where you can actually get as consistent with these tools as an automatic machine. These are of course niche usecases, moreso to do with lever machines and profiling shots, and this would make for a ridiculous setup for like a flair (200 dollar scale, 400 smart profiler, all for a 200 dollar machine) but with something like a olympia cremina I could see someone dropping 600 bucks more to get more precious on features out of their machine
@sandymacdonald48102 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Clear, concise and informative 👍
@XeonX__ASMR__METAL-experiments2 ай бұрын
Great Mentions
@evanbouchard7853 Жыл бұрын
I agree with this whole heartedly. I was thinking about the acaia at the beginning of the year, but found a $4 kitchen scale with timer from aliexpress and thought I'd take a chance because it was so cheap. I've spilt water on it, dropped it, and tossed it, haha. Still works perfectly 10 months and 200ish pourovers later.
Жыл бұрын
Link
@raduszilagyi6055 Жыл бұрын
Can you offer the link? I'm searching for a scale, and don't want to spend much money. 4$ seems free if it's good
@cmnhl132911 ай бұрын
try using a timer with a flair and profiling your shots. My pressures and scales are all synced via bluetooth to my iPad pulling turbo shots and its variants.
@sztigirigi3 жыл бұрын
I think it's quite simple. This was for a time the only scale that is capable of measuring flow rate. Together with machine like Decent or with smart pressure profiler you are able to track what happens with your brew. If you have Decent or SPP you need this kind of scale. That said there is a competition now. It's called Skale 2. Never tested it but I think it does pretty much the same. For fraction of the price. Final note. Acaia is not a scale. It's a flow rate measuring device. If you need a scale buying this product is a waste of money.
@granthamtn2 жыл бұрын
I've had my Gaggia classic for about a year now and I've never used a scale because everything I've seen has been $150-200. I just ordered two of these scales from amazon, will compare them to see if they are accurate. Thank you for this video!
@charliechan5782 жыл бұрын
i just got my gaggia classic yesterday, just pulled my first shot. how are you measuring your grounds at this time sans scale. thanks!
@granthamtn2 жыл бұрын
@@charliechan578 I’ve just been grinding until the Portafilter was full, which was very inconsistent and had some good/some bad shots. I definitely recommend this scale, and a dosing cup. I grind the coffee into the dosing cup, then put the grounds into the portafilter. Works like a charm!
@JJ-mf8ru3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video Xris! Just bought an ECM Classika and was thinking of getting the Timemore because it’s cheaper than the Lunar. But this one’s an even better option and smaller too. I already own a Hario scale but was worried that the water from the E61 drain valve could damage the electronics, since the Hario isn’t designed to get wet, unlike the Lunar or Timemore. Is this scale safe from getting wet? How do you deal with that?
@outlawmusic4963 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!! Ur the man!! exactly what I've been looking for lol
@inhong742 жыл бұрын
Very good point you bring to the table, as i am embarked on a journey to find me a decent coffee/brewing scale. Just to nitpick, water resistance? does this scale offer a degree of water resistance? because not all of us are so handsy as baristas. I tend to spill from time to time. but I agree, water resistance to a degree, as a acaia offers does not justify the over 200 dollar price.
@asselinpower2 жыл бұрын
I had this scale and bought a Félicita ARC on AliExpress. Still, you are 💯 % right. Totally useless to pay 10-20 times the price to have that flashy scale. What maters is the result in the cup , and the scale changes nothing .
@brandingforces3 жыл бұрын
I see the point you make, however, when I drop 3k+ on a machine, I might get a sexy looking scale with it ;) Plus the Lunar has flow mode as well, counting the preinfusion time when pulling the lever. It came with one of their recent firmware updates.
@abueloraton3 жыл бұрын
Useless "flow mode"
@MrMarki1343 жыл бұрын
Xris, as always, great video, but I think it might be good to mention somenthing: I think that for this particular hobby, this video touches a delicate matter. I agree that the lunar is way overpriced for what it is, but think of it this way: You changed your Gaggia for the Rocket because you wanted more steaming power, that you could get by waiting a bit more between drinks, and for more thermal stability that you could achieve by dominating the temp surfing technique. At one point you could say, is that worth sending 1200$ more when just a bit more patience and elbow grease would do the trick? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you made a bad investment, I think that it is perfectly fine to spend a lot of money in your hobby if it brings you joy and happiness, and that the rocket is a machine that has a very good value for the money. I think that in this hobby in particular it is weird to use the tone you used when talking about the features of the acaia because those arguments could easily be used for things we usually think are OK, like upgrading because we want more steam power to make more drinks instead of waiting a bit more time between steaming two pitchers. But then again, great video, looks as nice as always, and I agree with you (would never buy an acaia).
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
I see your point! That's why I mentioned at the beginning its the one thing that isn't its "premium" counterpart yet haha But at least functionally a more premium machine like the Rocket vs the Gaggia does have improvements, while with a scale (or these specifically) you're not getting added functionality of improvements over existing functions. I think the added functionality of the Rocket justifies x3 the Gaggia, but the features of the Acaia don't justify the x18 price. Just my opinion as always, but also thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@markmaterum3 жыл бұрын
@@itsxris I'm curious, would you say the same thing if you had a machine that could communicate with the Bluetooth functionality and could accurately replicate flow profiling like a flair with a smart espresso profiler or a de1+?
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
I think for a product like the DE1+, its got an incredibly niche target audience - so in that case the audience would be willing to pay that $3k+ price tag given that no other home machine like it exists Products like this definitely are aimed at a very niche audience that would probably use those features and pay for it But for the vast majority, this cheap scale is perfect imo
@reactionsok3 жыл бұрын
100% you don’t need a $200 scale. But you also don’t need a $1000 iPhone 12 I see you holding ;) great alternate product btw. As an Acaia pearl S owner I will say the apps are janky but the convenience out ways the negatives. Guys not auto taring is so convenient and I love the auto start for v60 and pour overs. Ever make a chemex brew? It’s like 20 steps! This scale runs us through step by step! What other scale does that?!
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
Argument for iPhone vs cheaper phones: if you're already in the Apple ecosystem (macbook, ipad, etc.) then it has extra benefits no other phone has - also if you're looking for iOS, its the only option I actually picked up an Acaia Pearl S recently, going to review it in a few weeks! I agree with your point for the Pearl completely, as that's the reason I picked it up.
@reactionsok3 жыл бұрын
@@itsxris I’m curious if you are able to use the pearl S in your “espresso” workflow and not just pour over. Looking forward to seeing what you can do with aeropress.
@LuckyDragon2893 жыл бұрын
In defense of the Lunar: I own a Lunar. I've also owned the Brewista Smart Scale II, and the AWS SC-2kg scale. And I worked as a barista and cafe manager for 6 years. The Lunar isn't essential for the home user, but it's a nice luxury. Keep in mind that this scale was developed primarily for use in a commercial setting; it's the most responsive and sensitive scale at that price point (you can set it to 0.01g precision if you want), it's very sturdily built, it has a rechargeable battery (that can last for months without recharging, with home usage), and most importantly, it's *water resistant*. Speaking from experience, a $20 Amazon scale will last for about a month of a commercial bar before its display succumbs to water damage from moisture ingress. I also had to replace the batteries in my AWS scale every month. The auto-tare and auto-timer features are also directed more towards cafes; the workflow is much faster-paced than your half-awake average Joe at 7am, and it's not an uncommon workflow to set the cup on the scale (auto-tare) and engage the pump (auto timer start) all at once. I have my Lunar set to auto-tare and start the timer at first drip, myself. My machine has a timer built in to the PID, so I can already time from engaging the pump. Knowing the time from first drop is also useful if you're playing around with flow or pressure profiling, and have long preinfusions (e.g. taking 30+ seconds before the first drop hits the puck). Tl;dr The Lunar has convenient features, but it's not a need-to-have.
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
That I definitely understand, as with 99% of things in this hobby - a lot of it is a luxury (especially my Jibbijug milk pitcher I'm surprised no one has called out yet haha) I've seen it in commercial use (at bluebotte) and totally makes sense in that setting! The scale I have definitely wont last a commercial setting but 10 months of home use and its still going strong.
@LuckyDragon2893 жыл бұрын
@@itsxris Yeah I used my AWS scale for 4 years and it's still in my drawer. Display is a little wonky but otherwise still good. At the cafe I worked at though, it really did only last a month!
@juanpoy1013 жыл бұрын
bought a $10 and a $20 scale.. but did not last long enough i would suggest with your next video to buy $10, $20, $50, and the Acaia to compare.. the $10 i bought was changing weight from time to time the $20 is not accurate both are battery operated so I need to buy when it's out of charge already. I dont own Acaia, and definitely will not buy one. I have the Timemore black mirror. It looks like Acaia haha but cheaper costs around $40-50 it is rechargeable :) dont need to buy batteries and maybe can save mother earth it has autotimer fast response water proof accurate no delays those $10 and $20 i bought dont have any warranties the timemore, the acaia, and the other expensive brands have. I think you should be considering that Also, putting all features into 1 device is cool and better than using several devices like what you are showing. You invested in an expensive espresso machine, why not buy the best one out there that is within your budget? also try buying different weights, compare with other scales if it measures the same, fast response (no delays), accurate I think the higher the cost, the good technology it has update us after 1 to 2 years if your scale is still good
@yashgupta86333 жыл бұрын
@@juanpoy101 My AWS suffered some liquid damage (in 4+ years of use)and the tare function stopped working. I have opened it up and cleaned it and gotten the buttons to be less sticky but the tare still won't work.
@TylerMedlin983 жыл бұрын
I’ve been searching for a good scale for coffee, I typically make pour overs and aero presses. The only thing about this scale that I’m not sold on is it’s small size. That’s great for espresso but I think my chemex would cover the whole bottom including the buttons. What insight do you have on that?
@xopheros2 ай бұрын
My only problem is that is too long for my puristika. Anything bigger that a puristika will work fine.
@SergeyKamenezki3 жыл бұрын
Not sure about all of the arguments. Been there done that. Started with simple scale and moved all the way to acaia. It's comfortable and it just works. Also it is more water proof in comparison to the one you're using. Apps are useless, the only good thing is related to firmware updates that adds some cool functions once in a while.
@Guenounovitch Жыл бұрын
what about manual machines, mesuring the flow is important
@scottklandl4882 жыл бұрын
Ps the cheap scale u show HAS An auto tare! Put cup on scale Turn on = Auto Tare
@codyDhanson9 ай бұрын
I got a cheep coffee scale with a timer for $25 on Amazon and love it and it super small I just don’t use the auto tare feature or the auto start timer feature I do both manually and love it can put link if asked
@sAmiZZle823 жыл бұрын
If you're like me and find you often leave phone in another room and thus don't have a timer, you could just buy a little magnetic timer to stick on the coffee machine and you'll still be saving a lot compared to the acaia!
@lukedaniel76692 жыл бұрын
I've got a clock on the wall with a second hand. Absolutely zero fuss, starts and stops exactly when you need it and totally hands free!
@bojanbugarski2 жыл бұрын
I am using Felicita - Lunar clone actually. In whole honesty it's an overkill :) but it's fast when it comes to measuring. Since I am also brewing beer I do use it for measuring hops. Let's say it's ok :) For the timer part I totally agree with you, you can get a cheap magnetic kitchen timer for 3-4$ The thing where these scales shine is I believe with pour overs where you can actually track the hell out of your coffee routine. For espresso - it's an overkill.
@brynybach77413 жыл бұрын
I bought the very same scales. $12 is a fantastic price but here in the UK it cost double that but still a great scale for the price.
@throwinafitz2 жыл бұрын
Dude this video had me cracking up... subbed immediately.
@marioz23973 жыл бұрын
Dude just got a new suscriber!
@coffeewithcarl17793 жыл бұрын
0:29 😂 Still waiting for that thumbnail tutorial :)
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
Haha I'll include it in next week's WorkflowWednesday episode
@prometheuslg Жыл бұрын
I like the way you approach this. However, I see an issue with the design of this specific scale. It does not really work if you want to put two cups on the tray. It's even worse if you want to steam milk at the same time. As you said, a lot of functionalities on high-end scales are useless for espresso. The key features are limited thickness to leave room for the cup, water resistance, and enough width to put the portafilter on it. Unless you can connect the brew switch of the espresso machine to the scale via Bluetooth or wifi, a timer is useless.
@skylerrussell6452 жыл бұрын
I work in a coffee shop that uses acacia scales and they are kind of infuriating to use. A lot of the smart features are way too easy to accidentally activate and they usually just get in the way. It’s a pretty scale but I definitely wouldn’t pay that much for it
@ThomasD35953 жыл бұрын
The Lunar is geared towards a cafe setting however has been adopted by home users. I agree it is massively overpriced however, the way it has streamlined my workflow is great. No faffing with my phone setting up timers etc
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
very true, paying a premium for sure for home usage
@jasonwilliams98523 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, just purchased a Gaggia Classic Pro & was worried the CJ4000 scale wasn’t going to have enough clearance with the machine.
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
this one definitely does! even fit my larger notneutral lino cup in the past
@emilmaier2953 Жыл бұрын
This machine is extremely easy to use and makes great cappuccino!
@xPentag0n3 жыл бұрын
I got a different cheap scale, which works fine. My concerns are just the consitency and accuracy of the weight. I noticed mie weighs different at some places (Not torque free). But this can easily be measured with a measuring standard). Also critical could be, and that's why you have always the same measurement, that it saves the last 10 measurements, and if one is pretty much equal, that it uses the same result. Which could be verified by measuring randomly the known measuring standard weight. And that it needs longer to turn on. But this concern are relatively easy to verify.
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
imo after 10 months of having it without issue, that for the price its perfect from a technical standpoint I'm sure the Acaia is much better, accurate, faster, etc. but also at a x18 premium that tbh I just think isn't necessary
@SwissplWatches Жыл бұрын
Now this is a good video comparison.... making the point perfectly "why spend $225 for a digital scale". Amen!
@Elimnio3 жыл бұрын
you are so right! But, I think the point isn't that it can do more than others. Why shouldn't acaia by making that expensive scale if so many people do buy it. I think people buying an 3000-dollar espresso machine just don't want to use a 12 dollar scale along with it.
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
this point was brought up to me before and I asked on my Instagram whether expensive espresso machines warrants buying expensive gear and the result was 76% said no from roughly 100 votes but i do the point and would absolutely use a lunar if I had a machine like the LMLM or GS3!
@derekec3 жыл бұрын
Problem for my setup is the drippy pressure overflow and drippy steam want will be right over the controls. Gonna short out.. But thank you
@justinbouchard Жыл бұрын
where's the part that you talk about the bluetooth
@chevpowr3 жыл бұрын
acaia needs to come out with a scale that is not full of recipe/ software enhancements!
@JamesWoodNarrator3 жыл бұрын
AGREED!!! I would love to see a 'stupid' Acaia Lunar - all I want is a small, accurate scale, with a timer... it really doesn't need to talk to my phone
@arictjlover2093 Жыл бұрын
you just got a new subscriber!
@edwarschilka84112 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm, I have the same scale but found it became unreliable after a month. After taring with an empty cup and sitting perfectly still the read-out would start displaying fluctuating weights. I had taped up the battery compartment for waterproofing and then made a little splash guard for when the pressure release spits water out the bottom near the scale when you stop a shot. I ended up going back to my ProScale XC2000
@hakunasomething67853 жыл бұрын
I have this scale but i don't have a cup to catch the grinded beans. I am trying to find something that can weigh the whole PF
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
I think Decent has something like that
@grn4rnr3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just what I was looking for. Question regarding when to start the timer if manually timing the brew with a scale like this: If I added 3 seconds of pre-infusion to the shot would you say that the timer starts after 3 seconds or start as soon as the switch is flipped? Keep up with the content man. Really appreciate them.
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
thanks! imo just keep it consistent - if you consistently pull good shots timing it from before or after pre-infusion then I'd keep doing that
@bigglyguy84293 жыл бұрын
I say go for the switch method, as that is always the start. Why time from something which is variable? That's like using an elastic tape measure.
@dyvel3 жыл бұрын
Just because you don't understand the auto start mode doesn't mean it's not helpful. It's not about starting the timer whenever you put your cup on the scales. Put your cup on the scales and tare. if you're doing a pour over the timer starts whenever the water hits the coffee for a bloom. If you're doing an espresso the timer start when the first drops hits your cup. So I would argue it's more helpful in the former case, but still useful in the latter. I can't see it that it's worth hundreds of dollars, but making decisions about things you don't understand is not helpful. It wasn't that hard was it?
@mmortada1978 Жыл бұрын
Waterproof
@sunriseshell2 жыл бұрын
The Acaia is kind of crazy, but what about the Timemore? Only about double the price and is designed to prevent liquid from entering the housing. Should one have a spill or overflow incident I wonder how this little one would fare?
@dantonypaula6514 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. 12 bucks for 10 month. Even if it breaks, it was a dollar and cents / month 😬. Buying it. Couldn’t justify Acaia, long story short it was the last accessory Im getting. Couldn’t justify 225 in my mind.
@TheGrandMug3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I will say though, as an owner of a Lunar, I don't think youre giving enough credit to overall design. The Lunar just looks cleaner. A E S T H E T I C S matter. And after thousands of shots, the built in timer is HIGHLY appreciated. Fiddling around with a phone is okay for a while but you won't know what you're missing till you have it built in. I do agree the other auto detection modes are fairly useless though. The Lunar is also big enough to serve as a damn fine pourover scale, which I take advantage of every day. I wouldn't be caught dead trying to balance my v60 on the little scale in this vid. Add to that the rechargable battery, never having to worry about those damn AAA batteries again. Also with the app I can change the units from grams to ounces, which is huge for me since I'm a coffee roaster as well and pack my coffee in 10 oz bags. And finally, customer service - After my battery experienced bloat and rendered my scale useless, I just hit up Acaia's customer service team and they replaced the battery free of charge. So basically, the Lunar is a 1 scale solution to all of my coffee needs.
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
I agree with all your points, especially AESTHETICS 🤙🏼 But the "thousands of shots" part sounds like you're using it for commercial use? At that point I don't doubt the Lunar is 100% worth it!
@DaveZigars2 жыл бұрын
Thank You for this video. I've probably purchases 3 or 4 scales for this purpose and was trying to justify in my mind a $225 Acaia or another maybe $55 dollar product and your video has convinced me otherwise. What I am looking for is something smaller, accurate, and simple to use that is reliable. My machine has a shot timer, so that's a feature I absolutely don't want or need. Great stuff. Thanks!
@trannel733 жыл бұрын
Well. I guess I saved at least some money with watching your video. And I seem to like this scale even more than the premium espresso scale designs. Thanks. 😇
@jeffli4802 жыл бұрын
Hi I was wondering what are the dimensions for this scale? I can’t seem to find info on that anywhere…
@adamhartman43123 жыл бұрын
The only purpose for getting an acia scale is if you have a decent machine and connect the two in order to get auto stop at a weight
@renphie3 жыл бұрын
When the ending shot popped up (the pic of you staring intently into the camera), I thought it would be neat if that was slightly animated, like a high FPS, slowed down clip of you taking a sip? :)
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
haha maybe when I have a higher FPS camera at some point
@noyarttt2 жыл бұрын
Anyone that know where you can buy the scale in Europe?
@Shadowguy4562342 жыл бұрын
It seems Amazon US will ship it to the EU, unfortunately not here to CH. For me, fortunately I'm visiting the US in a month ;)
@MarssraM2 жыл бұрын
Waterproofness IS a quality which is missing in your - and mine - cheaper scale. This is imo a important quality; especially with espresso and naked pf (leaking etc.)
@ChrisWilliams-vm1do2 жыл бұрын
People who buy a $200 scale for making coffee probably also have a closet full of designer purses, an expensive watch collection, or a car to drive for every day of the week. That, or they have bad spending habits. When money is no object, or you’re just really impulsive, the coffee industry knows just how to capitalize on your desires.
@pearlosibu21 күн бұрын
I love this
@nedboulter91873 жыл бұрын
Decent scales are so hard to find. I bought like 3 and had to send them back, bc they would measure different weights when I re-weighed things. That's why acaia is so popular I think. However, change is starting to come about, I'm currently using Timemoore scales on Amazon, they're not perfect, but they're the best I've had. The scales you're using look great!! In summary, I think acaia had a monopoly for a while, but they're gonna have to seriously reconsider their price some time soon.
@nedboulter91873 жыл бұрын
Specifically a monopoly on scales that are: Fast, Small, *actually* accurate to .1g not jumping around. One of the main things, is to have a capacity that is *relatively* decent as well.
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
I've heard a lot bout the Timemore ones too, those look great. Acaia definitely has the best scales, no question, but yeesh that premium price you pay for it
@VinceM7973 жыл бұрын
@@itsxris can you do a comparison to the time more?
@itsxris3 жыл бұрын
I would if I had one! Unfortunately my channel is not big enough yet to ask companies for review units nor big enough to start a patreon to fund videos haha, everything I have is paid for out of pocket
@LadyTigerLily2 жыл бұрын
Not just Acaia. The Brewista scale is $90 and that's beyond ridiculous for how crappy it feels. My long-time dream has been for Acaia to release base models of their scales. I don't care about bluetooth, I don't care about apps or the firmware. I don't care about half the modes that the Pearl, Pearl S, or the Lunar has. But I have never found a scale that feels as good for bar workflow as Acaia's scales, especially given that they're water resistant, the perfect size for multiple uses, and are ultra responsive without much, if any, weight drift. Acaia would sell TONS of units if they just stripped down to the weight-only and timer/weight modes while keeping the style, responsiveness, and water-resistance that makes them preferable to other brew scales.