Worth noting another key difference between the ATC guide and alpine guide is that the alpine guide works better on thinner ropes (best for ropes 8.1-8.5mm but works with ropes up to 9mm) whilst the standard is better on fatter ropes (works from 8.1 to 11mm) :)

Thank you for making such a good video explaining all of the features of these belay devices

I take the Edelrid Micro Jul over any of these for skinny doubles. I've also found the BD Guide to wear faster than the others.

DMM for me plus the CT Alpine up for belaying the leader, works well for ice climbing too I find & gives that added security of locking off.

Wild Country Guide? Great on all rope sizes, singles or halves.

I use ATC indoors because it works better with thick ropes for me. However, I prefer to use a bit thinner ropes outdoors and then I use Reverso. Both are excellent devices.

how come no giga-jul?

Honorable mention: GigaJul and Kong Gigi

Did you not include the MegaJul because it has an assisted breaking mode?

Giga Jul. The end.

Hello "EpicTV Climbing Daily"! Thank you for showing us such a wonderful video! I feel so happy! I'm looking forward to your next work! Have a nice day!

As I recall the original ATC was a slick tuber device before they added the guide function. The reverso added the guide function first. So why the generic ATC term like it’s a hoover? TBH I use an ATC and prefer it to the Reverso, but fair is fair… they are either guide plates or reverso type devices, surely.

I still don't get why somenthing like the CT Alpine up is not popular and there's like 1 video about it, when it's basically an atc but with at least a secure on it, for what i understand it has both the advantages of an atc and the one of a grigri

Mammut Nordwand is the standard I compare every other device to. No cabling, instead a metal plate which means an easier time keeping the anchor in place if the route wanders or you’ve set the anchor in not quite the best direction. Steel inserts for the device to last forever with no loss of function or grooving to occur. Plus, the forward hole for lowering, the A Hole, is large enough to accommodate most keylock noses for much easier lowering. Bout the only other device to compare to is the DMM Pivot which has the obvious namesake advantage. Practically every other two tube device… they’re all the same with no specific reason to use.

Why didn't you review the edelrid Gigajul is amazing

Kong GiGi? Lowest belay friction of all. Grivel Scream? Micro-sized ropes down to 5mm diameter. Edelrid Jul products? Double rope guide belay, and geometry assist lead belay. Mammut Nordwand? Small and lightweight with steel inserts so it never wears out.

Own basically all of them! 😅 Reverso is my go to device on trad, haven't used the pivot yet but have it ready and the ATC (sport non-abd) for sport / indoors

The pivot fucken rocks !

DMM is better than all it's competitors hands down. 💪

Love from India

Similar one: CT BeUp..

Kong Robot ...

Where's the megajul?

It is a gimmick unless you are lowering a child.

5:03 that looks like a non-locking carabiner...

Beeeeeeelay LMFAO is it so hard to say belay