The Best Guitar Hero FC You've Never Heard Of

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Guitar Hero and Clone Hero have ran the gauntlet through countless iconic FC's that still remain in the minds of its most passionate followers, and has even entered the mainstream at some points. While not all FC's make it to this level of success, an FC that was once thought to be impossible sought resurgence in a small pocket in the community after the most technological breakthroughs the game has ever seen came through, and its methods that follow along are nothing short of groundbreaking either.
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Music used:
Liphe - Almost Tomorrow
Homestar Runner - Trogdor
Donkey Kong 64 - Cranky's Lab
Donkey Kong 64 - Fungi Forrest (Bonus Room)
Donkey Kong 64 - Funky's Armoury
Badsummer - Still Shining
Warrant - Cherry Pie (Wavegroup Cover)
GaryOAKland, Chill Select - Guitar & Coffee
Heart - Crazy On You (Wavegroup Cover)
Alexander Nakarada - Anemo
Kiss - Strutter (Wavegroup Cover)

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@aWiseMoose 2 жыл бұрын

My jaw about hit the floor when I first saw Cal's ingenious frankenstein guitar that makes this possible, that's some serious 200 IQ shit. I followed this project closely and I'm so damn happy that he was able to pull it off, it's a well-deserved accolade.

@Jammert 2 жыл бұрын

so did his

@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 2 жыл бұрын

He cheated 🤦‍♂️

@s0vnds 2 жыл бұрын

@@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 proof?

@ItsKryptick 2 жыл бұрын

@@rastas_4221 that would be modded software though. Modding the guitar is literally the only way that this song can be FCed on NTSC on unmodded software.

@chrispy780 2 жыл бұрын

@@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 damn you didn't listen what the video said. It's impossible bro without slight modification and he confused the system to think it's a xbox360 controller, and you still think it's cheating. That's like me plugged in my mouse and keyboard to my Xbox so I can can play PC games like wtf are you trying to say

@itskmillz 2 жыл бұрын

To put into perspective how long it took for this to be accomplished: GH2 is older than somebody who just got the 2nd ever Soulless 6 FC lol

@wtfsong3 2 жыл бұрын

The work behind the FC itself is just as, if not more impressive than the FC itself imo

@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 2 жыл бұрын

Nope. The skill is more impressive. One man did what an entire community couldn’t.

@notmac1853 2 жыл бұрын

@@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 Nope. Wrong.

@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 2 жыл бұрын

@@notmac1853 Oh to the contrary, I’m 100% objectively right.

@awsomestleaperd78 Жыл бұрын

@@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 calling a community bad because they couldn't do something that wasnt humanly possible is pretty stupid lmao

@crimson-foxtwitch2581 2 жыл бұрын

2:47 Clarification: Some parts of Japan use NTSC, namely the western half, while others use PAL, but software was generally developed under NTSC, and standardization started to switch to 60Hz around the time PAL60 became a thing: which was coincidentally during the PlayStation 2 era since hardware was no longer just raw-downclocked for 50Hz rendering.

@zavtparticles6828 2 жыл бұрын

Japan also has the thing where they use different electrical rates in different areas, like whyyyyyyyy

@MasterAnimit 2 жыл бұрын

@@zavtparticles6828 That's because first instalations were done by two separate firms: in 1895 German AEG (50 Hz) started in Tokyo, year later - American GE (60 Hz) started in Osaka. Later their systems were developed and finally, when it become nationalwide - costs of changing it were far too big. And decades later tsunami hitted in Fukushima nuclear power plant, as a result of wave almost half of Japan lost their power and second half couldn't help them but that's another story...

@rosettastoned5002 2 жыл бұрын

Man. I’m really sitting here, listening to this esoteric guitar hero history and completely immersed in it, as per usual. Kudos once again 🙏

@monkeyjumbo48 2 жыл бұрын

Cool pfp

@rosettastoned5002 2 жыл бұрын

@@monkeyjumbo48 appreciative of the image you know where it’s from

@usefulidiot3776 2 жыл бұрын

Is your username a tool reference? 😎

@rosettastoned5002 2 жыл бұрын

@@usefulidiot3776 yessirrrrr

@LOLzum101 2 жыл бұрын

How's it esoteric its literally explained in full

@tiddly5 2 жыл бұрын

the fact that cal could even kinda play with that controller is impressive by itself lmao

@AspergerPlays 2 жыл бұрын

Im astonished someone would FC an impossible song like that, even more considering the guitabomination created. Just legendary.

@hafcat 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely genius to basically force "gamepad mode" with a non-guitar pcb/chip or whatever, but make the strum bar trigger the fret presses. I'm honestly blown away.

@logman314 2 жыл бұрын

You know you've made it when Etienne makes a documentary of your accomplishment. Amazing video for a mind-boggling FC.

@AbyssionQC 2 жыл бұрын

Cal is our lord and savior

@DrTacoPHD665 2 жыл бұрын

17:17 The "WHAT?!" every gamer can relate to.

@matthewdrury6443 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing. I remember the debate on the Scorehero forums like, almost fifteen years ago, about the possibility of this. One question that remains: why exactly is that condition in the code about the guitar controllers implying a strum limit? What purpose does that serve?

@AbyssionQC 2 жыл бұрын

There is no definite answer because Harmonix quite literally denied the existence of the strum limit and pretty much told people to get better at the game and stop coping (there's an interview somewhere on youtube, it's pretty hilarious in retrospect). Many believe it was implemented in the early phase where the controllers used for testing might not have been very reliable. It would effectively prevent overstrums on bad hardware. It's just a theory but it seems the most viable.

@prime98k4 2 жыл бұрын

@@AbyssionQC but weirdly enough the strum limit is also present in early Rock Band games, maybe they were worried about easy over strumming

@AbyssionQC 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think they intentionally left the strum limit when they reused the engine to make Rock Band.

@Prism019 2 жыл бұрын

Did the strum bars on early hardware have Schmitt triggers or debouncing capacitors? If not, it would make sense to have a strum limit like that. Instead of retooling the hardware, retool the software.

@ExoKiller4 2 жыл бұрын

It's likely there to eliminate phantom overstrums caused by shoddy hardware.

@kingleanie 2 жыл бұрын

I remember back in the day arguing with LocalH and Fyighfreak on whether Obsidian was possible to FC, and Scott said himself "The only FC that is truly impossible is Trogdor on NTSC." this is definitely one of those accomplishments where along with being an iconic fc, it's a "mystery solved" type situation with how an fc like this could happen.

@Zuxtron 2 жыл бұрын

This is just crazy. How the hell do you come up with something like that? The GH community must be really dedicated to create this Frankenstein monstrosity for the sole purpose of getting an FC on a single song.

@hata1499 2 жыл бұрын

Good video to get your mind off the Schmooey betrayal

@NunoVH 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent explanation! It's nice to hear the full details of the grind.

@helious_music 2 жыл бұрын

ngl i clicked on this video only anticipating to watch the first 2 minutes because i have stuff to do right now but the pacing, editing, and story telling of the video kept me engaged the ENTIRE time (whoops). what an absolute banger video 11/10

@spawncampingnoob 2 жыл бұрын

haven't even watch 2 seconds in and i already know it's sixstringcal's trogdor 360 fc lol

@oriolgonzalez9328 2 жыл бұрын

That guitar-fightpad frankencontroller is just GENIUS! And the video editing is top-notch!

@JolsCH6 2 жыл бұрын

You really make the best rhythm game breakdown videos man, keep up the good work!

@bassslinger8191 2 жыл бұрын

I hope your channel explodes man. This was a great watch. Top tier gaming documentary.

@zarhle1 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video! Always love when you cover CH / GH content.

@121597Luke 2 жыл бұрын

Just keep proving you're the best and most dedicated rhythm game content creator. Keep it up my man

@mrtoast244 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine the nerves trying to fc this classic impossible Trogdor (NTSC) chart

@carsonperkins7351 2 жыл бұрын

All the support for guitar hero content, keep doing great work yo :D classic gh2 strum limit

@MirageLuna 2 жыл бұрын

i remember when the fc was uploaded, i was in complete shock lol. great video

@siokedelic 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, I remember super in depth discussions about this on SH back in the day. Awesome the community came up with that solution to solve that issue!

@iceyroo 2 жыл бұрын

Love these FC documentary videos!

@V0lt1j 2 жыл бұрын

We now interrupt score progression: soulless 4 to show you the best guitar hero fc you’ve never heard of

@Imaproshaman7 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing! I love these GH history videos!

@ninjapwnsatlyfe 2 жыл бұрын

Back in the day we used to take non dualshock ps1 controllers and modify them into broken guitars because the up and down could be used as strum. Literally never once thought it was a beneficial thing other than just being able to play the game. As a 14 year old I didn't have money for guitars, so if a guitar died, I did whatever it took to play. It's wild to see all these years later there's a real reason to use it

@409guzzler 2 жыл бұрын

this editing is immaculate holy shit

@skylersop 2 жыл бұрын

it kinda reminds me of asumsaus

@Kerrmunism 2 жыл бұрын

@@skylersop i thought the same

@conjae 2 жыл бұрын

banger vid as always

@clindberg1 2 жыл бұрын

GREAT VID you're doing the lord's work. rhythm game records are HYPE

@kingk3245 2 жыл бұрын

I hope I don't see a trend of speedruns starting with an explanation done in a sea of wires and dismantled electronics for electrocution percent.

@coolstuffgaming 2 жыл бұрын

someone watches asumsamus :D you converted it great with your editing style

@rishi280 2 жыл бұрын

Your vids give me trun down for walt vibes. Thank you for all you do for our comunity

@ChangingFrets 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reminder that I have 3rd place on Trogdor! Gotta get that first place soon.

@diplogg6782 2 жыл бұрын

Etienne video on a cold rainy day, you bless me.

@ssaamil Жыл бұрын

What a legend. Wish I was in this community sooner, but never too late yeah? Cheers

@FancySkunk 2 жыл бұрын

This is insane. I hadn't heard that this FC happened, but I was around the GH community back in the day and knew that it was labeled as impossible. Absolutely nuts to know that it actually got taken down.

@giannamichaels9010 Жыл бұрын

Crazy acai recently just FC’d this too

@Rexzafi Жыл бұрын

on PAL.

@kpddog1962 2 жыл бұрын

Was this that fc that you were hinting at near the end of the gh2 score progression?

@zwingler 2 жыл бұрын

Having heard of this FC makes me feel like a true connasour of GH

@user-jk6rp5xh3n 2 жыл бұрын

Connoisseur 🤦🏽

@anemiapwns1 2 жыл бұрын

@@user-jk6rp5xh3n kawneusewer

@cofiddle 2 жыл бұрын

14:43 free f2l pair

@KarstenPHT 2 жыл бұрын

that wire looks worse than octopus wire

@anemiapwns1 2 жыл бұрын

This is so awesome! I definitely didn't expect this FC.

@gookoo416 2 жыл бұрын

Ages ago I managed a -1 on the solo in practice, since it was impossible to do any better I was happy with that.

@JashtheBrash 2 жыл бұрын

"Apparently, Trogdor comes at 3:11"

@GamingOverload 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad I guessed it was Trogdor before the video kicked off

@mrtoast244 2 жыл бұрын

The first time I heard this song was through theDooo, I never knew it had such a history in rhythm games

@PaddyRoon7 2 жыл бұрын

I knew what song it was from the thumbnail but assumed the video would be about PAL. Kind of in disbelief right now that this happened.

@FkFraps 2 жыл бұрын

The edit upgraded

@GrannySoupLadle Жыл бұрын

Lol i remember playing jordan with 360 controller and 5 people one person per button

@josegranola7 2 жыл бұрын

is something like that possible with rockband solo frets? AFAIK GGaHT still un-fced on NTSC

@SanicStudios 2 жыл бұрын

No. Rock Band (guitar) can't be played with a controller. All regular gamepads are used for vocals. This solution wouldn't work.

@thattonnatoguywithafez8246 2 жыл бұрын

@@SanicStudios Think he meant spamming solo buttons along with strumming normaly [so id ugess holding top fret, strumming, and spamming solo buttons tho i only see a 3 armed person doing that]

@josegranola7 2 жыл бұрын

@@SanicStudios If you didn't know on the Strat guitars from rockband, the small row of frets are called "solo frets" and those work the same as a controller during solo sections (you only need to tap them)

@Laddermans 2 жыл бұрын

just realized you changed your pfp anyways great video. i need to get back into gh and ch

@chambeet 2 жыл бұрын

God, GH2 was the best. I remember when it was gradually discovered that this was impossible on NTSC. So frustrating. So many of the top players like Lo7 or HellAshes had 63/64 FCs due to this song (I THINK that Lo7 got Beast and the Harlot, but don’t quote me on that).

@MasterAnimit 2 жыл бұрын

16:18 Me watching this after 181280128 notelocks in Osu: *i know that feel bro*

@DarkCrushr 2 жыл бұрын

i saw this fc thx to the clone hero rewind 2021

@sirisaac6125 2 жыл бұрын

Absolute madlad

@Blustride 6 ай бұрын

That padhack guitar is sick.

@Ashelrod 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, that's amazing, but I still don't understand Harmonix's desire to implement Strum Limit in almost all of their games.

@bigluxury9045 Жыл бұрын

fuego!

@darkgel Жыл бұрын

This is interesting, in my case I wanted to add an autostrum button to my ps2 controller just for fun but I didn't know how to, and I guess he would know how.

@TougherLoki 2 жыл бұрын

SixstringCal doesn't believe in no win scenarios.

@edyu69 2 жыл бұрын

I fucking love Calvin

@sharktheprez 2 жыл бұрын

15:54 Etienne playing some melee lets goooooo

@shoopy44 2 жыл бұрын

when does the dreaming part come in

@dyorgewiltonspassos183 2 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to fc this on a controller?

@hamiltonics 2 жыл бұрын

The legend

@WolfAeterni 2 жыл бұрын

3:17 very small correction: it's a 16.6666 (rounded to 17)% difference, since it runs at 5/6 the framerate

@mariotaz 2 жыл бұрын

Thus is great

@ryansmock2717 2 жыл бұрын

Oh so that's what Schmooey's guitar looks like

@driftafk6653 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video

@FkFraps 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice

@V0lt1j 2 жыл бұрын

@@FkFraps very very nice

@obelius_ 2 жыл бұрын

@@V0lt1j Very very very nice

@V0lt1j 2 жыл бұрын

@@obelius_ very very very very nice

@sovulken 2 жыл бұрын

welcome back

@Vitorzz 2 жыл бұрын

what a legend

@LolWutMikehSM 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like I'm having deja vu...

@fjollesmoll 2 жыл бұрын

Does this mean its possible to patch a Guitar Hero 2 ISO with the strum limit removed for guitar controllers? That would be legendary.

@Cirnology 2 жыл бұрын

new ettiene video lets fuckking goo

@tiaraguy7705 2 жыл бұрын

Love my gamepad brothers

@dbeast03 2 жыл бұрын

So this controller made gameplay somewhat of a weird hybrid of all strums and all taps. Interesting. . .

@AbyssionQC 2 жыл бұрын

If you play clone hero, there is a setting called gamepad mode (same menu as note speed) which is essentially this (though I believe it behaves like GH3 and not GH2, there are differences in what can and cannot be done between the two).

@DT_Worlds_Strongest_Goth 2 жыл бұрын

6:26 I'm one of the idiots who wasted hours on this solo. got to around the last note of the "human limit" zone on NTSC twice in MANY hours of attempts. At the time, I couldn't understand why this solo was so hard.

@guitarclassicgame98 2 жыл бұрын

Love the random DK64 music in this video 😆

@Dracula_sb 2 жыл бұрын

Yoooo Melee 😳💪

@mutantfrogs 2 жыл бұрын

heard of it

@Loitsu 2 жыл бұрын

Pyrocynical reference in the title

@fusion4460 2 жыл бұрын

I thought you knew there was no strum limit on gamepad?

@crookycumbles 2 жыл бұрын

Could this not be performed on something like an arcade stick then?

@Avriel_Mimiga 2 жыл бұрын

the first FC i think about is the Soulless 6 FC

@flleaf 2 жыл бұрын

Thinking space

@ifroad33 2 жыл бұрын

What about the parallell universes?

@Juno-sj8on 2 жыл бұрын

we need more taiko on here

@salteeth Ай бұрын

All of this happened because Kaizer from California wanted to see an internet cartoon character draw a dragon. Humanity is amazing, actually.

@mikestion4629 Жыл бұрын

*_TROOGDOOOOOAAARRRRRR!!!!_*

@triledink 2 жыл бұрын

My first guitar hero was 2, and in my opinion Guitar hero 2 is the greatest guitar hero game ever made. I own every main title guitar hero game from GH1 all the way up to WOR and everything between, while GH3 is considered the best and have improved from gh2 greatly. I would still say that gh2 is my personal favorite since the songs are way better and hitting notes were a bit more satisfying.