Anyone on PC struggling with the Iron Sights being awful. You can mostly fix the issue with the Crosshair Remap mod! Pretty much a must have to use them effectively! I use the "Dot" on mine.

Whoever designed the iron sights on this gun should be made into a servitor

Biggest problem with them is that you have to wait for the animation of you switching them on when you switch to them making it hard to swap to quickly for a quick shot on a special while melee fighting a horde.

Fun fact. A charging bayonet (sprinting) does increased damage

The buffs to the bayonet on the luscius helbores make it so good now, it really offsets the pullout time if I can just stab to death the annoying bruisers who spawn behind me

I dont care that the MK3 is the most damaging, its slash bayonet attack is a deal breaker for me. The MK1 and 2 have comparable damage with a stab that lets me deal with the ragers when they get close

as someone who just came over from Vermintide 2 with the Gamepass release of Darktide, Channels like yours are really a Blessing to take it all in...really appreciate your hard work (and the Empereor probably does too)

Excellent video! The Mk2 was my favorite for a good long time, but when I realized the Mk1's charge time was almost indiscernibly longer with higher punch, I started falling in love with it instead. Significantly less efficient, but the more generous breakpoints really sold me.

In Lore: The Helbore Lasgun can overheat from over use In Game: *Helbore user rapid firing it non stop into a crowd, while the plasma gun user is crying in the corner about to explode*

Excellent info & production quality.

This earned my subscription. Ive always wondered the difference between the Helbores and you laid it out so perfectly. Thanks man! Keep it up

Great vid, and i gotta say I really respect the credits in the description, even the meme that you used got credited.

You are literally my favourite Darktide content creator. Just wanted to let you know. You present valuable information in a way that's pleasant to listen to and is easy to understand, which I find to be the exact opposite of other content creators for this game. Keep up the good work, I'll try to make a decent Hellbore before I lose my mind to the crafting system.

What I’m reading here for the Mark 2 is that it allows you to drop the Onslaught perk which is a must-take for the other Marks of Helbore. That gives you more options as a player and may even be the ideal Helbore you want to take if you aren’t using Volley Fire

Would love to see some more guides like this in the future, keep it up!

I use the Mark 2 because of the bayonet attack, my gun is ironically my best melee weapon for target elimination missions because it just shredded the shields of the boss at the end, it also makes hitting headshots more satisfying, and I really like the sound the charged shot makes

I'm astounded that you don't have more subs. You earned a sub today, thank you my friend :)

Thanks for this. Now I can build my marksman vet!

Hanz here! Good Video, up to Krieg Regulations! And always remember, in live shame, in death atonment!

this was very informative, i've been feeling like my hellbores are missing something but now i know what rolls i should be going for and what i should be using each variant of it for. thank you!

Unbelievable this is needed, no one at fatshark sat down and thought. "it might be nice to include a scope on the games-only sniper". especially when you are fighting enemy snipers who can quickscope you across the hive.

Nice editing, i can see you put a lot of effort into your videos 😃👍

interesting fact most people are unaware of , I can only find this written in one spot in the game. On the Mercy killer blessing on the knife it clearly states " enemies that have bleed stacks are weak spots ". Soooo if you have the serrated blade perk in the talent tree your bayonet will make a followup hipfire to the chest the same as shooting the head. Makes all your weapons get a flat 30% increase if you take the talent perk for weakspot aswell, so long as you melee the target first.

Watching this while consecration a 378 roll. Got tier 3 and 4 on surgical and onslaught respectively. You granted me the luck, thank you 🥹

Great video, thank you!!!

That hearty chuckles at the ene of the video is so wholesome, heck. But it's a fact though, all you do here is tell us the pro and con as by the end of the day you have to choose it yourself.

I always used hellbore when i first started the game it was always good enough but there were always better weapons to use. After patch 15 with the build i got i literally never run out of ammo even if i use the gun from start to finnish i just have to get occasional ammo but thats too rare. From my perspective it all comes down to player for me mk2 was the best because of the fast fire rate. Latetly i tried to come back to mk1 and mk3 and there is 1 bad thing for each of them. MK1 has decent speed and does more damage then mk2 but it doesnt matter that much when you can shoot it all you want and do the same damage in 2 shots with mk2. For mk3 and i really tried to love this gun both because of the sound and the damage it has. Problem is when it shoots i sometimes doesnt charge you have to manually look at it or feel your left click to make sure your charging it and this is not that much of a problem for normal difficulties but when you try it on auric damnation it becomes a problem. Best way to use mk3 is like a sniper but in the same time you have to watch your back all the time because if a group comes at you without you realizing it your dead far away from your team and they have to come back to you and this means a horde or a special horde might come at that time and we risk the teams winning. So it goes like this for me mk1: Has everything but doesnt excell at any of the things other 2 do mk2: Has really fast fire rate with really nice damage and a lot of ammo so you just have too shoot everything at it until it dies. Only downside is after using it for a long time you realise your not even trying to aim you just spam it until it hits and this affects your gameplay with other weapons mk3: Hard hitting long range occasional weapon not charging problem is the big issue for me maybe its just a skill issue. Fire rate is a problem against a room full of gunners you have to land all your shots and be really mobile when its needed. Last note: I dont know if its because of the build or the powers my mk2 has its bayone 1 shots almost every unit and i can stab muties 3 times and they are dead its a really good melee. Worst out of them for me is mk3 its melee is slow and hard to land.

Grats on the 5k subs boss! Sadly I don't think the psykhanium will be able to handle 5 thousand of us this time 😂

I still feel these need some love. Just isn't competitive with how wild the Director is currently.

Literally perfect timing on this video, i was just making a krieg build

Been wanting someone to make a good comprehensive guide on the Helbore for a while now, since release I have been wanting to cosplay as a kriegsman with a Helbore and a perfect sapper shovel. I have a near perfect shovel already( +25% Unarmored +20% Carapace, decimator and Limbsplitter with a 378 base stat) but have been struggling with the direction to take the Helbore, and this guide was very helpful.

Love the deep dive. Appreciate you.

This was a great video. Informative and entertaining. Thanks for making it!

Super odcinek edukacyjny. Dziękuje.

Awesome video again 😎👍

Im using almost the exact same build as you except I use a krak grenade, the fireteam aura, and that longshot perk up top. Glad

Well my mind it blown, I learned alot, and I need to do this

The one thing I don't see anyone ever mentioning is that Mk II has much higher sway than I and III. You can mitigate it with the Deadshot perk, but I don't really like to use it with Helbore. Usually it's not such a big deal, but I occasionally miss a shot with Mk II when sniping distant targets if I have to shoot quickly.

My godrolled mkIII helbore is my baby. It's so fucking good to use

a rule of thumb I have is; the worse your aim the faster the weapon the you need. its the reason I never unequip a braced autogun cause i am terrible at getting 1 tap headshots

If this beast came with the infantry lasgun rds and a flashlight, I'd be set with the mk3. My favorite maps are the ones with power outage modifiers, so i really like getting to use my torch. I just wish the charging for this thing was less finnicky on console, sometimes the gun kinda just jams up on you. If it could automatically precharge each shot or maybe do so when ads-ing like the plasmagun it might be better

good video, i would love a video for every weapon. can you do recon lasgun next?

Helbore + chainaxe (build for damage and precision, with some of the NICE melee buffers {bleed, brittle, etc you really just need 2}. If it's a special or normal dude, bayonet. Are they far away / dangerous, shoot. Are they armored, frag grenade for CC + chainaxe.

For me i opted to go for Focus target Key stone because of wait time of the markman's focus is pretty bad and can't move much Focus target is kinda like on demand damage buff and squad wide too

i was a braced autogun man until i got a god roll on a kantrael infantry las, am currently moving to the hellebore for the bayonet and sheer stopping power.

Loved this video

good job !

I prefer the mark 3 purely because the sights on that thing feel a lot less cramped then the ones on the mark 1 and 2.

besides the iron sight, you have to flip the safety every goddamn time when switching to the gun which is also painful to use. i like the bayonet though

Seeing my char (Hanz) pop up in the clips caught me offguard XD

I'm running a Mk III with +5% crit chance, +10% crit damage, Surgical and Infernus. Talent making crits with lasguns not take ammo just makes my charge shots awesome, I barely use any ammo and I deal tons of damage.

The closest thing to a sniper rifle in game at the moment.

Any regular lasgun is better. At least by having clear sight. But versatility is also much better.

i wish darktide higher tiers jsut allowed like fashion for weapons but as a zealot player im stuck either 1 shot hammer or zippy dagger, i just wanna use an axe so bad

I see I'm not the only one ignoring the lacklustre new keystones.

Mark 2 is on my favourite list 👍🏻

Please make a video about recon las gun

i dont know if anyone pointed out that bayonet kills do get the bonus and count towards executioner stance

I mainly wanted to make a bayonet build and the Mk2 has worked the best for me so far with that. I might try the Mk1 tho.

maybe try the best range guns for all classes

My mk2 got 80 on everything but ammunition which is 60 tier 4 onslaught and surgical and tier 4 flak and maniac

Usually i stick with the mk3 because my guns go low polly once in a while...hope thats fixed for console soon

Ive looked it up multiple times Ive watched this entire video I still cant remember which hellbore is which

wait wait wait how did you get those stats at 4:36 i would LOVE THAT HOW

BRAVO 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾

I'm so confused, did they take the onslaught blessing out of the game?

>Make a long-barreled weapon clearly made for sniping >No optics thanks fartshart

I like the idea of sniping but that draw time is so annoying

Man I heard the helbore was a great rifle and I picked up a mk 3 and hated it. It was slow and the overhead strike I didn't like then I rolled a mk1 that out classed my mk 3 dang thing is much faster can roll out the melee faster and charges are faster currently mk1 is my go to other than the infantry auto those are beast to me atm

Now all I'm missing is the abillty to change the voice of my Veteran to mute. The Cadia Voice seemed awesome at first, but now .. Kinda annoyed by it 2bh

3 lasgun with melee attack not badly at all)

Ill probably run the fastest one with marksman focus. Man that talent is a lot of fun but its not very good if your gun isnt a braced one or if it has middling damage!

I rolled a Dual Teir 4 Onslaught / Surgical with this wpn, the bast wpn rating being 360 - dmg at 79 and charge at 79.... But dang, this weapon was still meh in a lot of situations... Maybe its just the way I was playing but is it just me or does this wpn not have enough pierce power? I do land a decent amount of my head shots but in big moments, the Mark Ia Lasgun just seem to deal with hordes and punch through things much more efficiently.

Prefer my Mark II for rapid fire, quick charges with lower power then I-III but drains less ammo..I dont get the struggle with the iron sights..it's set for headshots asap.

the thing about this weapon class that sucks is that it suffers from the lack of lag compensation the game has. trying to chain together shots with the mk3 is very difficult, since you'll run into latency related jank. other points of contention are the stamina consumption and swap-to speed. why bother when the plasma gun can do the job better?

I hate how the charge works. Instead of constantly holding mouse button to charge shot it should have a been a release, charging automatically while not shooting.

If it isn’t full auto I can’t hit anything so, I need muh 15 rd boltgun

How do you feel abput gaining stacks of marksman on the base skill with no camoflauge on the hellbore? My problem with the skill is that the whole weakspot kill and no moving requirements makes gaining stacks harder on slow firing weapons...ironically. I have way less trouble with the stacks on the infantry or braced guns were you can just blaze away into a horde at head level which is kinda the opposite of what the keystone name would suggest lol.

Can you make a video on the flamer ?

I love my Helbore Mk II (for whatever reason, the Mk III doesn't seem to visually fire/charge despite what the crosshair charge says), but I often opt for the far less ammo efficient plasma gun on account that the main drawback to the Helbore is that your fat bozo Ogryn teammates (that the matchmaker will seemingly always prioritize pairing you with should you equip a Helbore) will invariably find a way to block every freaking shot you make. The plasma gun shots, by contrast, pass through your teammates.

Who needs ammo when you got the bayonet to fix your problems

Alright, how'd you get the stats spreadsheet 4:37 lol

I’m still going mk1 all the way

Lucius lasgun + mod for scopes = better experince, yeah fatshark?

I prefer the MK3 but i do use a mod that allows customizeation

not really a fan of any of the helbores, since enemies make so many micro movements when they're getting hit or adjusting, it just isnt fun trying to line up a shot just for them to react to in some annoying manner. i think the guns wouldve been better if they didnt have a charge time at all and just different rates of fire.

My main issue with these is that the iron sights are horrible

Persnoaly i want to love these "snipers" , but i cant. I get too overwhelmed with hordes so i could focus on key units.

I feel like most of your videos are tailor made for me.

Recon next?

Is there a good way to calculate crit chance?

is that end of mission player breakdown a mod or something i can enable in vanilla? i hate that there are so many quality of life things just missing that were in vermintide 2

Do you think the mk 2 would get use from the higher stagger on weak spot hit and or the higher damage on staggered targets. It's fire rate may make that pretty reliable for fending off bigger targets or potentially reducing some 3+ shot breakpoints.

How does this compare vs a bolter? Not been impressed by it in game do far.

Got any info for a shotgunner vet?

Where can I see the stats of each player after the game ?

Is there a way to build this gun with a dagger + stealth for support

What mod do you use to see stats at the end of the game?

Every person I see try using this lasgun dies quickly since they keep getting swarmed in higher levels.

gotta disagree on the blessings, surgical + weakspot crit damage is best combo. guaranteed crits = guaranteed 90% extra damage (if you aim good, but non weakspot hits with lucius are a waste of ammo)