After the Silver Age, the Bronze Age is my favorite era in comics. It's the era where I first was aware of comics so it has a special place iny heart. It was nice to hear you guys talk about this creative explosion in comics. A great era in comics. I'm a subscriber now.
@cujobyte Жыл бұрын
1983 Music: Blue Monday (New Order), Every Breath You Take (Police), Separate Ways (Journey), Bowie, Echo & The Bunnymen... Yeah you're right, never realized how much great music came out that year! Great Vid Guys!
@FrogBrawler Жыл бұрын
The MCU should take note, Valentina Allegra de Fontaine might be put into a laughing fit if you put a Pez dispenser on display during a piano performance.
@SuddenlyComics Жыл бұрын
Richard watch the last episode of Sandman - I agree with John !
@bronzevillecomics2581 Жыл бұрын
Love Joker's mud baby. Wait until he gets his own HBOMax series!
@Paper_Abyss_Comics Жыл бұрын
Darkhawk has held on since the 90s :)
@charliedogg7683 Жыл бұрын
Hi Richard and John. 1). The pregnant Joker story reminds me of those wacky Silver Age stories like Superman having the head of a lion - just a silly idea played for laughs. But the mainstream press (perhaps understandably) wouldn't be aware of this heritage. What annoys me though is how many reports show that the writer had not read this Joker story because the so-called pregnancy is explained as Joker ingesting a part of Clayface when Zatanna grinds Joker's head into the mud with her foot. So there is a logic to the situation, however zany. 2). Everything I learned about preparing for the zombie apocalypse, I learned from The Walking Dead. 3). Doctor Doom has always carried himself with a sense of nobility that many other villains lack and this, coupled with his emotional vulnerabilities, lend much weight to the view that he is Marvel's greatest villain. 4). I love The Sandman on Netflix too John and even watched "A Dream Of A Thousand Cats" with my cat, perhaps a risky thing to do in light of the episode's premise. 5). Iron Fist's first series was good but really peaked near the end; I guess that with nothing left to lose, Claremont and Byrne gave it their all with Sabretooth in #14 and the X-Men in #15.
@dosscomics5571 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice on the polybag for UF4.. I have been on the fence about removing my copy from the bag.... beings that it came shipped from marvel in the bag.. but thinking about it... the book can not be graded in the bag... so it (the bag) really serves no purpose. Both of your reasoning about the damage the bag can actually cause pushed me off the fence... my UF4 is now out of the bag... I'm pleased to say there is no crease... though one corner is not perfect.. 9.6 at best . still awesome :) Thanks for the advice!
@BronzeAndModernGods Жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@nowherebound2908 Жыл бұрын
Missed the live, but catching the rewind! John, LOVE the MST3k tee! Richard's tee too!! Great stuff, guys!
@ferdbirdthenerd Жыл бұрын
really good stuff, loved this episode.
@jerryp7721 Жыл бұрын
Agree about the modern age. Have a solution. Modern from 1992-2010. Ultimate fallout 2011 begins a new age Millennial age? UF 4 is so significant it needs to be the start of a new age.
@AstonMonks Жыл бұрын
My favorite album of all time, Pyromania, came out in ‘83
@kevinrcolvin6301 Жыл бұрын
Changing the 25-year rule to the 40-year ("Old Fart") rule was a nice switch. It's great to hear your reminiscence on books from the early 1980s, which were markedly more interesting than those from the late 90s IMHO.
@gregmcphersonii5477 Жыл бұрын
Here’s a rule that’s way past its prime; first print or no print. When I was a kid collecting in the 90’s, this was commonly accepted but post 2010, the opposite is often true. Anyway, thanks for another fun show.
@timothymarkin4481 Жыл бұрын
When you mention 1983 as a year for music, no argument there. However, my all-time favorite artist Billy Joel released An Innocent Man, which was a massive hit sales wise, but as a fan of his work, my least favorite album. Part of it may be that it homaged an era that was not dear to my heart, but it was also overplayed to death. Needless to say, my favorite songs on that album were not radio singles and thus, not ubiquitous on the air. (I do agree with Richard about 1978; that year is my all-time favorite in pop culture in general. Music, tv shows, comic books, etc. I was 10 and love that era.) Another comic with the Tattooz is Fantastic Four 252, the infamous sideways issue.
@alancarr7718 Жыл бұрын
Good afternoon Gentleman good afternoon community. Ah the Bronze Age, what a time of marvels! Great show as always. So today's question John, as you are the music man, why do we not look on comics as per Music via the decade, Discard the ages! You have touched often on the link between music and comic culture, pop culture. My music of choice begins in the 60s and continues still. But music triggers the memories from each decade. Just asking is all? We all have our favourite decade. Keep up the great work in Twenties Cheers the Gold Key Four Color Kid from Downunda!
@ScoutReaper-zn1rz8 ай бұрын
Don't forget Let's Dance by David Bowie in `83.
@River.Rambler Жыл бұрын
Sabretooth has his own book, Sabretooth and the Exiles. He was cast into the island for refusing to play by the rules of Krakoa. His motivations to hate the X Men are in full force in this new light.
@BronzeAndModernGods Жыл бұрын
Good to know!!
@brychology Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys, really enjoy your content! What do you think about the Thunderbolts that appeared in Daredevil #69?
@spiderscomics1180 Жыл бұрын
ASM#238: I think the Tattooz situation is a lot more complex than what has occurred, which is CGC deeming it a green label and the community following their lead. There are at least 18 Marvel comics that have been recorded to have include tattooz. The closest sibling to ASM#238 is FF#252 which also had the advertisement on the cover - none of these books, including Fantastic Four, have 100% inclusion of the tattooz. The idea that every single #238 left the printers with an insert seems far fetched when we look at the haphazard approach to the other issues of that month Regarding the history of 'harvesting' tattooz (harvesting was mentioned by Overstreet at one point - pulling the insert from another copy of #238 or the aforementioned FF#252) once again, I'm not sure we've been steered right on this either; the urban myth is you pull them from a $3 FF252, throw them in and CGC give you a blue label! you laugh to the bank! However, as you stated the tattooz are inserted into the book and they align with the top edge of the book - straight. It's very difficult to find other tattooz books with the staples in the correct position so the tattooz can be inserted correctly into your ASM...which might have some really big staple pulls where the tatz where ripped out by a over-eager child! Great show and thanks!
@austincrafton178 Жыл бұрын
Great discussion.
@marktinant4514 Жыл бұрын
Hey John and Richard. I’m a big fan of your show and am really enjoying the Old Fart Rule segment as I was collecting comics as a teenager back then. I speculated on that copy of ASM 238 back in 83 and have a direct and Canadian price variant. Not sure what happened to my tattooz from my direct copy but they are missing. Oh well, 1 out of 2 isn’t terrible.
@marclapuma Жыл бұрын
Regarding SIKTC, I do think it is a great modern book to have in the PC. I believe the book was heavily spec’ed on when it was announced as optioned with Netflix, then another bump when the amazing writer/director Mike Flanagan (Dr. Sleep, Haunting of Hill House, Midnight Club) was announced as the show runner. The book’s value began to drop after Mike Flanagan left Netflix for Amazon to take on The Dark Tower for a series epic (which I’m extremely excited for, he truly is a modern horror aficionado although his style of storytelling isn’t for everyone as he tends to stay character-focused over jump-scares/gore). Regardless, I think there is a cache of great directors and writers that could take on the SIKTC project, with the book becoming a potential “Walking Dead”-level collectors item. Just my opinion, it makes a GREAT read. Maybe people just got jaded from all of the variant covers, especially once House of Slaughter dropped. Great content John and Richard 💥
@Cletusvandammm Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t alive in the 70’s so this isn’t some argument being made on behalf of the era I grew up in, however, in my opinion Music and Film both peaked in the early to mid 1970’s
@ScoutReaper-zn1rz8 ай бұрын
I would say from 1986 to 2011 should be it's own age (for DC)
@ganjjabarsmedium2347 Жыл бұрын
Variant Age is a good option. A new age is needed, I think the art of the last 10 years or so has set themselves apart from the Modern
@River.Rambler Жыл бұрын
Not going to lie, before clicking I thought of a list of books I knew you would talk about. How is it possible that Richard did not bring up Ahsoka’s first appearance in Star Wars Clone Wars?
@DocReasonable Жыл бұрын
When I started collecting comics in 1976, 31 years previous to that was 1945... imagine that span being considered the Modern Age at the time.
@richieannarelli5714 Жыл бұрын
Ultimate Fallout 4 first print you failed to mention the Newsstand the newsstand Edition and the money they're asking for that and the number of copies made thanks
@mykilfremn26 Жыл бұрын
Some people just don't have the ability to understand perspective the hand is supposed to be touching your nose that's how close it is
@mbcomer1 Жыл бұрын
RE: UF4 poly bag. I have one still in the bag. Can see a color rub so would never be a 9.8. I doubt I ever take it out because to me a still sealed copy is the book in its original form. As a collector I prefer it how I would have gotten it off the shelf. Does Richard who has every version still have one in a poly bag? I also have a 9.8 so maybe I’m speaking from privilege 😂
@ferdbirdthenerd Жыл бұрын
My buddy and I were basically stating the same thing on our show about modern age books. would be nice to have a new category?
@davidmacpherson770 Жыл бұрын
The cover for ASM 238 made me buy Spiderman and be a fan. It was all the cover.
@The_Troll_Lord Жыл бұрын
Hot damn! Love you guys!
@juliusmaloney Жыл бұрын
The Ms. Marvel titles were finally printed in Vol. 2 ‘Marvel Super-Heroes’ title issues #10 & #11. Sabertooth is on the cover with Ms. Marvel issue #10. As John stated it closed Ms. Marvel’s original run. Why they didn’t just print the last two issues under their original banner I’ll never understand. 🙃
@leeniren3706 Жыл бұрын
I am confused if it was an unpublished book, how are the stories public
@richieannarelli5714 Жыл бұрын
Walking Dead number one my local LCS has cgc 9.4 for $1,500 is that a good price
@CHAMPDOGZ Жыл бұрын
stop bro you said Miles Morales is going to be right up there with Peter Parkers Spiderman the only rival for Peter Parker's Spiderman is Batman hello there a reason Spiderman has been the top 1 or 2nd all-time favorite for idk over 60 years
@frankmaxwell2052 Жыл бұрын
Don’t agree with the definition of Modern. Most people would consider mid 80’s to early 2000’s to be the copper age; not modern.
@DocReasonable Жыл бұрын
I was reading Something Is Killing the Children, but it's become a bit of a mess storywise and the art is simply not good.