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The best place for STOL? Darrington (1S2) - Gravel Bars, Camping, Water Skimming (MSFS)
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Күн бұрынLots of action, plenty of takeoffs and landings. And even a little water skimming and camping! Having reviewed the FreedomFox by Parallel 42 yesterday, I decided to challenge myself with a STOL tour of the area surrounding Darrington Municiple (1S2) by Orbx. No script, just the joy of adventure! This beautiful scenery is in Washington State - the Pacific Northwest. It was a favourite of mine in P3D, but now even better by default in Microsoft Flight Simulator. I hope you enjoy - don't forget to subscribe! And Merry Christmas!
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@Profolly 2 жыл бұрын
Darrington has been one of my favourite airports for several years. Great choice for bush flying.
@cgaviator Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I hope they bring out Skagit because Orcas and Concrete are also great to hop between
@dillank3240 Жыл бұрын
Pacific Northwest scenery is my favourite. My childhood home is just north of the border about 330 degrees from Darrington. This looks like home!
@cgaviator Жыл бұрын
I’m utterly jealous! I plan to visit at some point
@timothybird7450 2 жыл бұрын
Those Rotax engines have some nice looking stats. 1.4 litre, turbocharged, and a 135 max continuous horsepower. They do have quite a high rpm, but it's worth noting that is only at the engine. The power goes from the engine, through a reduction gearbox and then to the prop. Bit odd to turn the engine over, especially if you're used to O-360 engines, due to the gearbox. They did look nice and easy to work on though.
@dfgndfghdfghdfgh 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is definitely one of the best msfs channels.
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, appreciate that 👍🏻
@kittealand 2 жыл бұрын
"not dropping on its nose" - that is what I did in a taildragger on my very first landing on my very first solo. 10 minutes later I was up in the air in another plane. "That's what flying club insurances are for", is what the instructor told me...
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
That’s where experience comes from too! 👍🏻
@Retset 2 жыл бұрын
From a quick google, it looks like the engine is geared down before the prop by about 2.5. I think this is because they are car engines. I love playing with STOL stuff in the sim and will have to try that area instead of sticking with the UK all the time. Fun video! Glad you squeezed in a run and break!
@Tom_Hadler 2 жыл бұрын
Love this! Have seen some of these American "Bush flyer" types, seemingly cavalier but they're real airmen. This video and the sim really capture the essence of it, and the tent is a bit of fun too! Had a laugh at the "flaccid" windsock, exactly the word I'd have used too. Those internet connection warning messages are ridiculous, should not be happening, you nearly crashed. If such pop ups must appear the least they could do is pause the sim
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and yeah, thankfully I think I’ve found the cause of the disconnects (my end not MSFS this time!). I’ve fully bought into the bush flying. May have to include it in my retirement plans!
@Cambone13 11 күн бұрын
16:11 😂 cracks me up
@cgaviator 3 күн бұрын
Flaccid is a well used meteorological word in my book! 😂
@northcoaster76 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! I love this type of flying. I used to do it in FSX with a supercub that I'd found and some freeware scenery that introduced me to some of the most infamous bush strips in Idaho (Dewey Moore, Soldier Bar, Mile Hi) and I highly recommend checking those out in this aircraft. I've flown every bush plane addon that I know so far for MSFS (Carbon, grravel, Bush league legends xcub variations, the taildragger 172/152, bushkit 172/152, the L19 bird dog, the Asobo Husky, Asobo Savage Cub, Asobo Xcub, the porter, the CH701, the caravan, and I have every intention of purchasing the 42Fox tomorrow. Oh, I guess I haven't tried the Kodiak out yet, might purchase that one eventually as well. I would've bought the fox already but I needed to redo my simming setup so I've been out of commission for a few days. For claiming you don't really know what you're doing in a bush plane you seem to be doing just fine. High AOA, slow speeds, and rather rapid descents are all key. The stall horn is just there to tell you that you're going slow enough to land now :) Another addon worth checking out is the gotgravel stol scenery, it adds a number of landing destinations (not designated strips, just worn in areas from frequent bush landings) that are all very fun and challenging.
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I pick up bits here and there. The manual for the kitfox was pretty decent. I have checked the got gravel scenery, good fun. 👍🏻
@AV8R_1 2 жыл бұрын
This has been one of my favorite spots since ORBX released these sceneries in FSX. The whole area around darrington, or if you go north to concrete (3W5) then west to Skagit (KBVS)That river has tons of bars. This fox is great! Land it with full aft trim and full flaps and it’s a dream!
@spatialpro 2 жыл бұрын
Flaperons 😉👍
@johnwicks4936 2 жыл бұрын
This plane looks like a crap ton of fun!
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Oh it is… brilliant!
@razerrc778 2 жыл бұрын
awesome plane the doors fall off in flight now if you open them
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, wouldn’t be surprised
@WilhelmvonFahrvergnugen 2 жыл бұрын
Buckets of fun. Brilliant. Thank you. The Fox 2 alternate AC that comes with the // 42 DLC also has a Stage 2 monster of an engine. The GG comments in the engine.cfg are particularly good. Multiple other liveries, as well. Might want to check out Idaho Backcountry flying!
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, lots more playing to do with this, not enough time to do it! 😅
@Harsesis1 2 жыл бұрын
If you really explore this area you can find some amazing scenery. Mountaintop lakes and a bunch more cool areas.
@volkerjansen3901 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video, cool scenery, cool plane :)
@MrWave58 9 ай бұрын
5500 rpm are engine rotations. Rotax engines have a gearbox, so the prop spins aprox. half time.
@cgaviator 9 ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏🏻
@MrWave58 9 ай бұрын
@@cgaviator You are welcome. The ratio is 2,27271:1. Weired because of resonance reasons.
@Pete_Harris 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this Chris and even though it's not something I'd normally dabble with I think I'll give it a go! Thanks for all of your great vids this year. Have a great Christmas and all the best for the New Year.
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, much appreciated! And the same to you 🎄 🍺
@megatech1966 2 жыл бұрын
Looks really nice. I will buy it when I’ve paid off my Visa card
@symie8 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas by the way Sir. Hope its a good, safe one wherever you are 🎅 🧑🎄 🤶 PS - and all the best for the season to your subscribers as well 🙂👍🏻
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you… you too! 👍🏻🎄
@paulphibbs5362 2 жыл бұрын
You can display the wind info on your PFD. Thanks for the video, must try out the area.
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Good point! Need to mess with the PFD setup 👍🏻
@xxFormula1989xx Жыл бұрын
I performed a short landing in the middle of Busch Stadium! Came to a stop right up to home plate! In case anyone wants a STOHL challenge.
@cgaviator Жыл бұрын
Yes, I frequent the stadiums in Seattle quite frequently!
@EdgcumbePhoto 2 жыл бұрын
If you get a chance to come out this way, do so. The fly in at Concrete is usually a great thing to visit. Plenty of visitors from around the region and a great backdrop for a visit.
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
‘Come this way’ meaning you’re local to the area? I’d love to!
@EdgcumbePhoto 2 жыл бұрын
@@cgaviator yes, a Brit abroad! In the Seattle burbs and not too far from this area. Does the scenery have the land slip at Oso near Darrington. Very sad event a few years ago.
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
@@EdgcumbePhoto I’ve not seen it. Bing maps aren’t the most current though.
@EdgcumbePhoto 2 жыл бұрын
@@cgaviator It’s along the main road west out of Darrington. The whole side of the hill collapsed and took out a small town and blocked the river causing flooding. it was before we moved here but the scar on the hill is very apparent when you drive by.
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
@@EdgcumbePhoto I’ll take a look on my next flight from Darrington
@sendark001 2 жыл бұрын
So cool! I would love to see that in real life
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the Trent Palmer channel. Not sure if he flies here though.
@brandonalguard3367 2 жыл бұрын
I live here. It’s beautiful
@willhewitt4890 2 жыл бұрын
The Kitfox has a Rotax 915is engine. Rotax typically have around double the RPM of Lycombing engines :) loving the vids
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect, thanks for the info. That’s quite an RPM!
@willhewitt4890 2 жыл бұрын
@@cgaviator small displacement, high RPM. See a lot of Rotax engines on kit built / experimental types.
@kittealand 2 жыл бұрын
@@willhewitt4890 I got my license in an ultralight (the European version of the LSA class in US) weighting 265 kg with a 80 HP Rotax 912. You were airborne in about 7-8 seconds and it climbed like a bat out of hell. Lots of margins since you had so much power compared to the weight.
@spatialpro 2 жыл бұрын
Darrington = yes, STOL = absolutely, FreedomFox = only if/when in a Sale event (cost/benefit not great enough as-is IMO).
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that, but having flown it repeatedly I’m really warming to it!
@Flojer0 2 жыл бұрын
It appears the FreedomFox has a Rotax engine. The default Super Cub also has a Rotax with a similar sounding beehive.
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know 👍🏻
@grahamthebaronhesketh. 2 жыл бұрын
Better than the real thing because it is free.
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Free-ish! 😅
@grahamthebaronhesketh. 2 жыл бұрын
@@cgaviator Cheaper than a landing fee. I fly in VR all the time. Been round the world twice.
@Streaky100001 2 жыл бұрын
Hey cg, I'm now bush pilot, I'm no pilot, what I can tell you is if you want to see how the freedom fox is flown, you want to check out a youtube channel called "Trent Palmer", the freedom fox is his kitfox, he takes it out to gravel bars and mountain sides and what not.
@StrGzr101 Жыл бұрын
Yeah well, you sure seem like a bush pilot to me. Well done this.
@cgaviator Жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😁
@StrGzr101 Жыл бұрын
@@cgaviator I got the Kitfox last week and haven't really played with it. You helped me decide to warm it up tonite. It's a great day.
@cgaviator Жыл бұрын
@@StrGzr101 Kitfox is good, Wilga is good if you like a bit more old school and incredible attention to detail!
@StrGzr101 Жыл бұрын
@@cgaviator You got that right. I have both. But since I got the sim a few months ago, I spend almost all my time in the Zlin Carbon Cub. Really working on slow flight and playing with stalls. The Bonneville Salt Flats in Nevada is a great place to practice STOL. You can work on skimming and stalling two feet off the ground for five miles.
@supernovalabs 2 жыл бұрын
trent palmer eat your heart out!
@torandreweiseth4705 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Nice video. I fly an aircraft with the Rotax 912IS in real life. This engine is similar to the 915IS that the Freedom Fox has, but les powerful. It has a maximum continuous RPM of 5500rpm and 5800rpm for maximum five minutes.
@cgaviator Жыл бұрын
Well then, I'm jealous! lol. If only they made a 3 or 4 seater!
@HaydenGinz 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to fly with ya sometime. I fly a Maule in real life but when I can’t go fly in the backcountry in real life then I use the sim. I also can provide some wisdom on how to actually approach some of these backcountry areas the right way.
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Very kind, nice aeroplane! Sadly my time is sporadic! But I'd certainly appreciate some pointers on the best places to play?
@symie8 2 жыл бұрын
A landing is just a controlled crash after all, just when you say it's "sounds like you crash every time you land". 😉 I went for a first fly today since the update. Unfortunately my Trackir isn't working. I've taken a look online for a fix most are only temp, or if you look around to far it shuts off again 😒 A lot of peeps waiting for the next update. Just hope that's soon. Really good vid again though Sir. Need to practice skimming on a lake first before taking it to the rivers 😄
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
I get that. If it looses link with the tracker, MSFS switches it off. I assign a button to switch it back on. Minor convenience thankfully
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
I get that. If it looses link with the tracker, MSFS switches it off. I assign a button to switch it back on. Minor convenience thankfully
@symie8 2 жыл бұрын
@@cgaviator I can't even get the Trackir selection button to stay on! It instantly clicks back off again 😒 Gonna see if I can find a vid somewhere to fix it, or get it to the same state as your own one 👍🏻
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
@@symie8 I wonder if it’s losing signal a lot. Do you have much background lighting? Are you using the powered tracker or the basic clip?
@symie8 2 жыл бұрын
@@cgaviator I use the Trackclip pro. I've been using it now with all my sims for about 6 years now. Can't do much without it. Plus no back-light. Also was facing the camera the whole time. Apparently its something they 'incorporated' in the last update. They knew about it but didn't fix it! No worries though. I'll sort it one way or another 😊
@Slawek. 2 жыл бұрын
Can you test the updated version with the new propeller physics?
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
I did a video with it recently. I haven’t compared side by side, but it ‘feels’ good
@Slawek. 2 жыл бұрын
@@cgaviator Thx. I had found that video. I had missed it first.
@FUBBA 2 жыл бұрын
Chill fun place to go. I just recently got into this game after 20 years. Times and graphics have changed
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, leaps and bounds!
@TonyTheCaptain90 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful airport, thanks for the recommendation, heres one for ya, very cute - 4S2 :) enjoy
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I will check that out!
@paulsleighty 2 жыл бұрын
I think the server dropping is something to do with the last msfs update, as im also frequently getting it, but only since the last update.
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know, but frustrating!
@nejc_sever 2 жыл бұрын
Camera transitions inside the cockpit are so good. Not sure if you're using VR headset or did you just master the camera moving shortcuts?
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
TrackIR with shortcuts assigned to camera modes and panning around 👍🏻
@nejc_sever 2 жыл бұрын
@@cgaviator Thanks! First time hearing about TrackIR 😅 Happy holidays!
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
@@nejc_sever same to you!
@kittealand 2 жыл бұрын
@@nejc_sever TrackIR and VATSIM is what took my flight simming to a totally different level!
@matodd100 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, this is a result of the global base pack from orbx?
@cgaviator Жыл бұрын
Erm, no, this is all default I believe! The Darrington scenery is there but I’m not sure how much of the surrounds it does 👍🏻
@MojaveHigh 2 жыл бұрын
On the second time you skimmed the water, you had an outside view. Did you insert a replay? If not, how were you able to fly so well from outside the plane??
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
No replay, just a lot of hours spent messing with sims! 😅
@lucywucyyy 2 жыл бұрын
you gotta go slower man, i can land a citation at those speeds, try approaching with more throttle and more back stick, i managed to land a cessna 208 at 25 knots ias in this sim lol
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
😆
@WarrenPostma 2 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if you would tag msfs videos as msfs. I know it’s lovely also that you turn of the HUD to get maximum scenic value and lack of clutter, but it does make it hard to figure out what’s going on. The specular highlights sure look like MSFS, I thought. Until you have technical problems with MSFS internet/server stuff, it’s basically hard to id what’s going on and in what. It was interesting to me that people buy Orbx for MSFS since the default scenery in MSFS is so good already.
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, missed this one. I like the added immersion from Orbx scenery. But I don’t fly with HUD I’m afraid.
@Kinder-zr3zm 7 ай бұрын
beef it
@cgaviator 7 ай бұрын
Could you translate into old person speak!? 😂
@russellharris5072 2 жыл бұрын
I've also had these disconnections,This is down to server overload and a gross underestimation of potential traffic.This of course was foreseeable with the advent of the Xbox user's inclusion in the sim,but apparently was ignored.It's not the only problem either,My version chugs along happily @ 30/45 fps until it gets even a sniff of an air/strip/field/port and suddenly drops frames down as low as 9 fps.I've checked with task manager and find that A) I'm uploading data far more than I receive it and B)I'm only getting Kb p/s not Mb p/s.Whereupon my vocabulary is reduced to a chain of passionately delivered very rude expletives.depressingly,I don't expect to see a major server upgrade anytime soon...................................
@cgaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely put! Maybe they’ll get a new server for Christmas! 🎄 Still, it’s good they’re actively upgrading the sim. Fingers crossed the hardware gets a look in next year!
@russellharris5072 2 жыл бұрын
@@cgaviator priority one should be more and better servers to share the load.It might even be better to put the Xbox users on separate servers..................
@3housephotodotcom 11 ай бұрын
Rotax engines aren’t designed from the ground up to be aircraft engines, they rev higher and require a gear reduction box. The reason for this is because if the prop spins too fast, the tips of the prop will break the sound barrier. This is why aircraft specific engines are designed to be lower revving. The pay off is the power plant is much cheaper as opposed to a certified engine built from the ground up.
@cgaviator 7 ай бұрын
sorry for the late reply, I've been away! thanks for the info, I did hear that after posting this. Crazy fast rpm!
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