He ain't that dude

@@themediumprofessor big facts

Naw he’s still only 25, it’s about to be him as these other dudes get past 30

The Celtics hate us just weird and old at this point but not surprising from you weirdos.

Bruno Caboclo 😂

booker will never sniff that level

they're just saying if the suns win the title, it's a chance of happening

Not as insane as him saying book is the best SG since Jordan

Facts. He is not even close right now. Give me a break

Right😂😂😂😂

Steph plays with other best shooter nba history, best defender in nba last 10 years, and #1 draft pick

STEPH CLEARS JOKIC

@@zbt62 6 seed and cant stay on the floor 😂 sure

You can say that about any candidate on a superteam.

Yes but we’ve seen Booker play to this high level or at least close to it without Kevin Durant. I know he had an all-time stink in game 7 last year against Luka, but the year before when they got to the finals, he was special. He’s actually been playing like their best player so far in these playoffs even though he does have the luxury of having Kevin Durant.

Chill man Wosny yells and rants wayyyy to much and can mess up the flow of the podcast A LOT.

Curry getting stronger over the years is not something that’s hard to notice or a unique take 😂 but his Joel one I do give credit for

That’s wild, everything he says sounds like regurgitated or half baked BS. I really don’t think he understand or really watches basketball to the level any of the best ringer people do. Feels very much like a he’s around because Bill likes him type of guy. Really bums me out Bill relies on him this much

@@jonathanleslie803 haha exactly it’s just regurgitated stale NBA takes, I’ve never heard a single unique insight from him. Feels like an affirmative action higher tbh lol

man also has some of the worst, he’s inconsistent segment to segment

Cmon now yourself lol. Steph had 3 teammates averaging 17+ PPG throughout the entire playoffs. That's huge. You can go back and look at those series. In all of them he had at least 2 teammates going anywhere from 18-22 PPG on great efficiency. The entire team balled out. Steph just got the praise because of course, he's the star of the team and he always managed to contribute a few points more than everyone else (but on more shots and often less efficiency). Steph plays little to no defense (and he's rarely guarding the opposing team's 1st to 3rd best players), Draymond runs the offense half the time, he doesn't rebound, his assist to turnover ratio is ok. Steph is crazy when he gets hot for sure. It's awesome to watch when he goes nuclear, but last year's run was definitely not proof of anything other than that roster having serious firepower and excellent wing defense. This first series vs the Kings, I think Steph reclaimed his spot at the top somewhat because he was head and shoulders above the rest of his teammates. We're talking 30+ PPG, nearly 50% shooting, playing 40 minutes a game, still no defense at all but he was 100% the reason they got past the Kings.

@@THE_BEAR_JEW in last years Finals Steph averaged 31 on 48/45/86 against an all-time defense. His second leading scorer (Wiggins) averaged 18 on 44/29/69. His third option (Klay) averaged 17 on 35/35 splits. Only one other player averaged over 7 (Poole) and he was benched every other game. Stop acting like these are the 2016 Warriors. He's the only guy without a weakness but people are scared to crown him in everything he does because he's 6'3 and it's never been done before. These talking heads can't comprehend what he does and how he effects every aspect of a game.

Now lebron, jokic/durant....we know he can beat lesser stars

@@THE_BEAR_JEW Every player needs help to lead their team to championships. Every team needs other players to produce to reach a baseline of points in a game, and no player makes it easier for his teammates than Steph does because of his gravity on and off the ball. He’s also become a GOOD defender who no longer gets hunted. They stick him on lesser offensive players to preserve his energy, but he’s no longer a liability.

@@zalemdreams I never said you don't need help. That's a given. However, Steph has had the MOST help out of any superstar recently. In 2019, Kawhi had 1 teammate averaging over 15 PPG in the playoffs. In 2020, LeBron also had 1 teammate averaging over 15 PPG in the playoffs. In 2021, Giannis had 2 teammates going for over 15 PPG in the playoffs. In 2022, Steph had 3 teammates averaging over 15 PPG through the entire playoffs. 1) Steph's defense is not good. It's passable, and that's being nice. He's never tasked with tough defensive assignments and even then he's just passable. 2) EVERY superstar has high level gravity to them. Steph is not unique in that aspect. And just as Steph's gravity makes it easier for his teammates, his teammates make it easy for him to get open. Draymond is constantly setting screens. Klay is always a danger. Wiggins and Poole can actually create their own shots. So it's not like Steph doesn't benefit from having these guys.

I got Kobe

Timmy D was a force

😂😂😂😂

Dbook dnt like double teams, cut the nonsense

They didn't say he was the best, no one said that.

I see against Denver lol

your listening comprehension is seriously questionable

Agreed!

It’s crazy people ever considered a dude that can’t shoot the best player in the world. He only has a ring because the entire nba was hurt that year basically. He has too much an explotable offensive weakness to ever be the best player. It was ridiculous and low Iq that he was considered the best at all

​@@sitonmuhdeckasshole You are such a casual lmao

And this after getting injured, lol its not like all this happened and he played the entire series healthy. Excessive is the correct word, that or "bored".

He was hurt so needs to take a bye this year. Really unfortunate about that fall and the spin contusion. But staying healthy is part of of being a champion.

Naw he folded

and yet if he knew how to make some free throws his team would be in round 2 right now.

It’s the way he lost man. Free throws ain’t no back, Kobe made 2 with a torn Achilles. Open jumpers bricked. Can’t get a iso bucket in crunch time. OVERRATED. Skill MATTERS.

@@dusttaker Yeah he didnt

They had a double digit lead in the 4th of the last 2 games and lost both of them stop it

Nah

the problem is giannis shooting ability. that's a big, glaring problem that severely limits him... i mean, just look at what happened with ben simmons for crying out loud. giannis is way too aggressive to fall that far, obviously, but not being able to shoot in the modern NBA is a real problem and basically precludes you from being the best in the league, or honestly even realistically being in the discussion.

Not being able to shoot doesn’t preclude you from nun.. he averaging 30+ .. a dpoy 2x mvp 1x finals mvp can’t be in the discussion

the dude can't shoot. if you're missing 13 free throws you're in ben simmons territory.

@@bacardibum good point bacardibum. I think he’s a complete flop too. He’s only won a championship, a finals MVP and 2x regular seasons MVPs… 🙄

@@AlexBrown-xp7mt missing that many free throws is a glaring weakness

He was mentioned. He was the 5th guy Bill brought up.

@@TheMilapMehta Didn't watch to the end.

To be fair, they acknowledged that it's basically just optics, where Jokic looks worse defensively when he gets beat.

It’s not fair to say he isn’t more vulnerable to being exploited defensively than the average super star of his level.

@@doktarr I agree these three offered nuanced points but the talking heads on Espn keep repeating the “he doesnt play defense” line

Because Giannis was injured

Jokic has a sick defensive IQ, like everything else. But he has no athleticism and suffers from that. But being 7 ft helps. Plenty of top tier stars play D. Heck, CURRY plays D, though he still suffers from being small. But Giannis? Butler? Jordan did. LeBron did something other than blocks from behind at one point, though he was always a guy you could blow by. Duncan did. Dream did in spades. But sure, there were guys like Dirk. Again, lack of athleticism. Peak CP3 was a great defender. Peak Kobe. Garnett. All the guys on this list plus a few were very competitive defenders.

So the guy born in turkey who wrote multiple papers denying the armenian genocide just happens to name his company after the regime that murdered 1.5 million armenians. nothing to see here!

lol he isn't going to play vs the celtics and has a shitshow of a series vs Nets who cares if he avg 30 ppg against the Hawks they still lost

had*

Embiid's ppg is at 20, not 30.

Bro u can’t go 10-23 from the stripe

EXACTLY, Middleton wasn't himself and they need a stopper on the Wing

​@@aharonmccall9529 Middleton had 33-6-6 in Game 5. He was enough of himself. And don't blame it on injuries when Miami had their second best offense player missing

Khris Middleton was done for in defense. Couldn’t stay in front of nobody.

@@ianballer6153 that's not it cause every superstar has flaws his just happen to be free throws. Shaq was the best player from 2000-2002 and he sucked at free throws.

exactly, like their giving him praise for beating a depleted clippers team. Nuggets have size they are going to give booker hell just like the Celtics do cause Tatum and brown gives him nightmares

Guy is 20-25 and 14-18 against Denver the last two games. So it ain’t just the clippers

@@ceceroxy2227 yup, proved me wrong for sure. But i did say this comment before those games ha

Horrible take. It’s not the 80s or 90s. If not for guys like him everyone would say that the big man is an extinct position.

@@ObiAmajoyiSrMD You can call it whatever you wanna call it. The guy has yet to get a team pass the second round. Giannis is an NBA champion and even Jokić was able to get a team to the conference finals albeit in the bubble. The intangibles don’t equal the talent up to this point

This is a pretty damn good response from a birds eye view. No qualms on my part. The people below that will disagree with you are just splitting hairs and quibbling over details.

He just proved what you said again last night in game 3 too. I mean he went insane last night man 80% from the field for 47 points. He can’t be stopped right now

@@jeremyroberts8822 Yeah I think 3 days off did him a lot of good

kendrick perkins disagrees. can you guess why?

"numbers" would suggest Jimmy Butler is barely top 20. End of the day the sport isnt numbers

Luka is out of the conversation for this year. He missed the play-in. He allowed his team to just give up for those last days even though they still had a shot at the play-in

But the thing is Jimmy does this every single playoff run. Im a Heat fan, and i dont think hes the best player in the league but his dominance in the playoffs has to have him in the convo

Listen to his explanation. If he gets through the gauntlet he would need to get through, carrying a bad Heat roster to a championship, there would simply be no argument. He doesn't have the title now, but the path is there.

@@magicnoah1579 it’s a fair point but I guess the part I disagree with is we can say that about nearly anyone. If the Knicks win a title will we crown Brunson or Randle the best player in the league because it will take a Herculean effort to get that done. I just feel like we get recency bias pretty easily. Two days ago AD was arguably the best player in the world and after one bad game people are back to he is a Robin to Lebrons Batman. I love Jimmy butler and think he’s one of the most underrated players ever but I think we have to view him on the entirety body of work which is why I won’t write off Giannis because aside from this year he is always available and gives it everything he has and changes the game in so many ways.

@@catman-du8927 I think it’s fine to have him out of number 1 but dont forget it’s a team game and the kyrie experiment was not going to work. Only one ball and two guys who are very ball dominant and a team with no defense.

Book does not have the heart at all 😂 all bag but no bite

@@CptRexFilms987654321 na lol hes a killer he just doesnt finish at the basket easy and cant just rise up over every1 so he gets tired

Did you watch Booker last series? He played elite defense and the best of any player in the entire post season thus far.

@eldenwolflord he played a a clipper team with the 2nd best player not playing and the best player messing up his knee.. Kwahi doesn’t hurt his knee, phx already eliminated.. but don’t worry Denver finna sweep him

@@HahaHaha-km4sm Clippers G leagers would kill your arse. I know that much 🤡

Because he's missed 1 1/2 games in the playoffs and is only averaging 20ppg.

Because Bill's 1, 2, and 3 were Jokic, Curry, and Butler respectively. Embiid was the 5th guy on his list and they didn't want to cram the graphic with every player who would be discussed.

His body betrayed him in the 2010-11 season. Dirk gets my vote But 2006-2010 for sure.

@@nikosvault that’s fine too I think 2011 is weird bc Kobe played bad and got swept and Lebron played scared in the finals for whatever reasons but 06-2010 it’s Kobe bc Lebron wasn’t LEBRON yet but was still a beast

Klay? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@WheresWaldo05 you don't think Klay has a better resume than Booker? What part of Arizona do you live in?

@@DaBaltimoron He is way older so it's irrelvant. Get back to me when it's an apples to apples comparison for resumes. And i could give 2 shyts about the suns. 🤡

If he wins the championship and wins finals mvp by averaging 45 a game. Why not.

He did not win with westbrook...? And he was never the best player

KD played with a young Westbrook, LeBron played with an old Westbrook

No, it means you don't watch enough games. There are tops 2 or 3 better defensive PGs in the league and he is the best offensive engine in the modern era

There is team defense and 1 on 1 defense. Got to see the stats to prove if Steph is a good defender

What Dirk did in the first 3 rounds of the playoffs was more impressive than anything Wade and Lebron did together or separately in 2011. And then he sonned them both in the clutch.

@@nikosvault he didnt son either of them in anything, well at least not wade, if lebron doesnt LITERALLY have the greatest superstar collapse in nba history hes doesnt get that ring, it was right time right circumstance's for dirk

@@nikosvault game 4 in that finals miamis up 2-1 the game was decided by 3 points, wade dropped 32 and 6 on 65% shooting he flat out outplayed dirk, and lebron gave him 8 points, if lebron gives him 12 or 15 they win that game.

For that matter, he wasnt as good as wade, Wade shouldve made first team all nba ahead of kobe that year but it was more of a name value pick rather than actual performance

@@josh0253 no

@@josh0253 I think Dirk is about the same level of player Wade is, that season and all time

Wheres that defensive weakness? Suns are having trouble "exploiting" it. Denvers Defense, and Jokics, has been amazing. Sorry, try to watch the games.

I agree! I’ve been saying that Jayson Tatum is overrated. He has superstar talent but often doesn’t play to that level especially in the most important games.

There is an argument for jaylen brown being better or just as good as tatum

Lebron wasn’t the best player in 07 he didn’t become the best player until 2011-12

If you have the 2010 Celtics and 2011 Mavs meltdowns inside of you then you were never the best.

Dwyane???

@@noahlakatosh1941 should have two MVPs min

The Lakers and Clippers wouldn't even be in the play in tournament if they load managed down to 40 games. You also need to develop some level of chemistry to win a title.

True, but gotta make the playoffs for that 🤷‍♂ Hope the Mavs figure their roster out

not with kyrie lol

@@MrJoeBreezy every star has missed the playoffs

@@JT82DETMI casual