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Thanks to my good buddy Tom, I got behind the wheel of his incredible Porsche 911 997.2 GT3. Join me for a drive in beautiful Yorkshire, I compare it to the brilliant 981 Cayman GT4.
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@JoeAchilles1 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoyed the video guys 👊 What's your dream "driver's car"?
@E92M3 3 жыл бұрын
991GT3 RS or 997 GT2. But if money wasn't an option and i didn't care about resale value then Mclaren F1 LM
@nikolalolic2037 3 жыл бұрын
458 speciale
@ryancox3834 3 жыл бұрын
Gt2 rs or the Jesko.
@thembelihlephungula960 3 жыл бұрын
Porsche 911 R
@CaravanningwiththeCoxs 3 жыл бұрын
Cayman Gt4 or 911 GT3 Manual.
@fastflyer666 3 жыл бұрын
As per insta message, I actually bought a 997.2 GT3 Clubsport primarily off this review. Top work, keep up the great content.
@JoeAchilles1 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear man, hope you're enjoying it 👌👊
@nicholasjackson5237 2 жыл бұрын
@Jackaroo Did you have to debate yourself about getting the 997.1? Are you satisfied with the 997.2? I am currently trying to make a deal for a 997.2 after passing on a solid deal for a 997.1 Please let me know!!
@fastflyer666 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasjackson5237 997.2 was the only one for me. Mine is now sold. Wouldn’t buy one in todays market prices are crazy….hence why I sold.
@Ali_k20 Жыл бұрын
@@fastflyer666 how much did you net during the ownership? I’d love one, but can’t bring myself to drop that kinda of money
@fastflyer666 Жыл бұрын
@@Ali_k20 +15.2% Not bad for 9 months ownership and 3200 miles.
@christianfloehr 3 жыл бұрын
Love those cars!!! Dream Garage: M3 e46 CSL, (my) 430 Scuderia 🚗 and 997.2 GT3 RS... Life Time Goal!
@scuddryvr8784 3 жыл бұрын
that is my dream garage too. I too have the Scud. Funny.
@jimjohn9041 5 ай бұрын
Had the .2 RS, prefer the .2 gt3. The RS didn’t do it for me on the road. I can recommend the 996 GT2. Also, the Scud is awesome.
@johnmitchell2269 3 жыл бұрын
I love the proportions of 997's. IMO they are the right height, length and width of what I would expect a 911 to be. Some driver aids but not too many. Basic where you'd want them to be basic, advanced where you'd want them to be advanced. If you don't own brand new car(s) then they don't feel old. My all time favourite 911 is the 997 4.0 RS
@sandypatrol3457 3 жыл бұрын
I love how this car revs up to almost 9000 rpm.
@JoeAchilles1 3 жыл бұрын
Yep incredible
@MichaelM-zk7lc 3 жыл бұрын
Joe, I agree that peak enthusiast cars were 2010ish. I could own many cars, but I choose the BMW 1M and 997.2 GT3. The thing you forgot to mention, this is the last GT3 with hydraulic steering, to match the other heavy inputs. As you stated, you need to learn how to drive the car. You do not just jump in and drive fast. So refreshing!
@stefanjust1912 3 жыл бұрын
That story was oozing the level and quality of joy you had, Joe ! Doesn’t take much to be fascinated by your videos. Sheer driving pleasure is the story you tell - and you tell it so well !
@307skylake7 3 жыл бұрын
Looks perfected defintely! Just you can notice that the newer 911 GT3’s rev higher which makes me love them even more, although, this 997.2 looks AMAAAAAZING! Good to see you driving one Joe! Must’ve been amazing.
@alexbrightmore2100 3 жыл бұрын
Love how you were giving it a good drive throughout this vid. Thanks Joe, enjoyed that
@squarebody_swervin78_355 3 жыл бұрын
I've never driven one but in my mind this is the best porsche! 🤙
@dylanh1978 3 жыл бұрын
What a car, probably the best looking Porsche GT car in my opinion. That back end is unreal. Love the interior too. Great video.
@Sarncho 3 жыл бұрын
Always dreamed of owning a GT3. One day. Have had a passenger lap in a 997.2 GT3 and it just sounded unreal.
@MrKenn93 3 жыл бұрын
This video helped inspire me to get my 997.2 C2S. Absolutely in love with the car... the Akrapovic exhaust fitted to it certainly helps!
@grezza3421 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite model and generation of 911 ever you lucky man. The way it sings is just pure music.
@thedrugdealer4541 3 жыл бұрын
So blessed and grateful that I am one of the lucky few and it always bring a big smile on my face every time I take her out.
@mprinsgsxr 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Joe and Tom, this was Awesome. Personally think its more special when it is not a press car and one has to be careful when highlighting negative things :-)
@hpman911 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the review Joe and in essence you summed up the car very well. I enjoyed my 997.2 GT3 from new but sold it last year for a 991.2 Turbo S.I live in London and found the clutch in traffic a real challenge not to mention the ground clearance and very hard ride. On the traffic free open road you featured I agree the car would completely come alive and of course it shines on the track. Such a shame that for so many of us those kind of road conditions are a dream rather than reality in 2020. The GT3 is a fantastic car and I really appreciate how lucky I was to be an owner for nine years and 25,000 miles. I just felt it was time to move on but if funds had allowed I would have kept it in my "forever" garage !!!
@davidmoore6172 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Joe the sound is just pure intoxicating, manual gearbox natrulaly aspirated heaven. 👍👌💪🇩🇪
@olliemorgan974 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure this was a thoroughly enjoyable car to drive, and I agree, such a sweet spot in terms of driver's cars were the late 2000's/early 2010's. Great video as usual Joe!
@ofautomotive 3 жыл бұрын
It is by far my FAVOURITE GT3 of all time ! there is something really special about the 997.2 GT3
@NAVMAN987 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this review. i miss my 2010 GT3 and regret having sold it. Now I have to make do witha 997.1 C2S with X51 package with aerokit. Its 60-75% of how i remembered the GT3 was. The 997s are the last of the analog Porsches.
@pjmoody 3 жыл бұрын
Well done Joe. Fantastic review!
@Youtubedotcomma 3 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes! Achilles + Porsche = 100% AWESOMENESS!
@adamkhan5274 3 жыл бұрын
Bout time mate. Best vid on one of these. Time has favoured these cars.
@andrewstevenson6540 Жыл бұрын
That's the perfect car for me if only I could afford one. Well done to it's owner for acquiring it and looking after this beautiful machine.
@mongrelwinter2735 3 жыл бұрын
Joe is my favorite car guy, love from Switzerland.
@1ongava 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Joe, live this gen of 911, and that's the pick!
@fastlanediaries6593 3 жыл бұрын
This was the screen time highlight of my weekend 🔥🔥
@gfig515 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first 911 I ever drove. And how thankful I am for that experience. All the other 911 seem to lack something...
@danielwarren2355 3 жыл бұрын
Love it joe 😍 and Tom is obviously a top guy 😎
@sydslice 3 жыл бұрын
Really good content again Joe 👏
@johngoodall7097 3 жыл бұрын
Your reviews of cars are much more in depth and thats a good thing so many others want to short bursts of acceleration and rev the nuts off the cars. Yours are so much more interesting so keep doing what you are doing and we will keep watching jJoe Thank You.
@JoeAchilles1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks John glad you like my stuff, really appreciate the kind words buddy 👌❤️
@johngoodall7097 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoeAchilles1 Joe I really appreciate good works, and you would take some beating, in a good way of course, by the way did you see Petrolpeds tonight two Astons what a racket on the GT12!!!
@JoeAchilles1 3 жыл бұрын
@@johngoodall7097 haha thanks! I haven't seen that video yet, will hopefully see it at some point tomorrow eve 👌
@mybizuk 3 жыл бұрын
Just a quick note.. a m2 comp is 1 second slower than a 997.2 GT3 60-100mph rolling. The m2 comp also is over 2 seconds slower 0-125mph.... SO the GT3 gains another whole second 100-125mph, and the gap will just keep increasing. This is of course if you can drive properly, The 2010 GT3 can do 11.6@122mph 1/4mile!!
@76sagman 3 жыл бұрын
Tom is a gent, but clearly wants his car to be enjoyed which is what it's all about. Great car.
@jamescarter4346 3 жыл бұрын
When you coming for the evo to have a blast of Blakey ;) Epic video love seeing the local roads!
@1970boggy 3 жыл бұрын
Never owned a GT3 but it’s a car I’d truly love to have ❤️👍
@darrenwarrick8865 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as usual, love the 997, what was the main road you were on? Happy belated birthday..
@peybackthis1596 3 жыл бұрын
I own one. Superb machine. It’s just mad!
@clarkbritton3052 3 жыл бұрын
Dream drivers car, great video as always 👍🏻
@JoeAchilles1 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👌
@jwljwljwl 3 жыл бұрын
man like joe! lovely spec on this gt3
@shaheenevans 3 жыл бұрын
This or 991.2 gt3 manual for me JA - love the noise and the right manual gearing !
@davida8713 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love it if you could one day a review on a Z4M Coupe
@samwisee 2 жыл бұрын
I have one of these. Swap seats with my friend’s 997.2 turbo S. He said this is the most fun he’d ever had in a Porsche
@taforth 3 жыл бұрын
I had a ride (‘fully sent’) in a 997.2 GT3 in white (ie same as that one) around the Nurburgring back in 2014. I came away very impressed, especially at how composed the car felt going down into the bumpy Fuchsröhre section @230 km/h. I have to say, although I’ve never driven one, I find it very hard to believe that the 981 GT4 would feel anywhere near as composed in those circumstances. It certainly wouldn’t have that Metzger howl at 8500 RPM!
@ghowells5433 3 жыл бұрын
Great car and great review. Try the gt3 4.0 991.2, love mine best 911 I’ve ever owned.
@henryhealy 3 жыл бұрын
It's great to see you in some Porsches Joe. Hopefully it's a sign of things to come! Porsche would do well to have you review some of their cars instead of some of the people they give them to.
@JoeAchilles1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Henry! Yeah, like many manufacturers in the UK, I can't believe some of the people who are on their press car lists, hopefully one day mate.... Thanks for your support 👊
@gregsimpson9391 3 жыл бұрын
What a sound! The only sound that came close for me was when i had my B7 RS4 - 8500 for a NA v8. Handling nothing like the 911 though!!
@andyohara1393 3 жыл бұрын
The first Porsche I ever drove was a 997.1 GT3 Club Sport spec and I vowed one day I would have a GT Porsche. That was back in 2007, it has taken me a good few years to buy my first Porsche, a Cayman 981 GT4 in Club Sport spec with 918 carbon bucket seats and having come from a 2017 OG M2 the GT4 is in a different league. The M2 was a great car but the 981 GT4 is fantastic. Yes the gear ratios are a bit long especially 2nd & 3rd but you do adjust to them. The GT4 is not silly quick compared some modern cars but the way it handles and delivers its power is enough for our roads. I did look at a couple 997.2 GT3s but couldn't justify the £100K price for a 10 year old car.
@PaulBrown-et5ne 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid Joe! IF they were same price what would you have This GT3 or M2 CS?
@Inazuma68 8 ай бұрын
I drive a 996.2 GT3 Clubsport. Great car, no nanny traction control. But still it puts the power easy down to the street when driving in good weather with Cup2. Narrow body is great and helps on twisty Swiss mountain roads. Just have to drive it whenever possible
@martinboulden3540 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see you in a 911 !
@JoeAchilles1 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I could get my hands on them more often 👌
@curtiswaynethomas3304 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoeAchilles1 DO A 996 MK2 GT3 NEXT
@SterlingMess 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoeAchilles1 If I'd known you were doing this one you could have borrowed my white 997.1 GT3 CS to compare and contrast!
@wuandy1 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, great video on a legendary car. I also have a M2 but with the N55 engine. Would you swap that for a 997.2 911 GTS.
@Shawshank00 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, may I ask which location you use to test cars. Especially the road where you did a launch. Whereabouts is that?
@jolark2259 3 жыл бұрын
Proper car, fantastic💪
@2candan1 3 жыл бұрын
Never driven either but for me the 991.2 GT3 looks a bit better and sounds a bit better too! I would not be complaining if someone gave me either, both are stunning!
@jameshoward9700 3 жыл бұрын
Working hard there, eh Joe?! Great review. These are one of the 'great' cars. The last of the 'great' Porsches. Raw, focussed mechanical: very very special. So hard to find a low mileage one now. But if you could, wow. These will be regarded as the pinnacle of ICE cars. Slight assistance, modern safety, road threadable, huge speed. But feel, feel, feel. Jealous! You have to learn to drive one, build a relationship: trail brake! 991s- are faster, but less feel and not raw. Electric will be faster than everything anyway, so feel's what you want.
@ACKWV 3 жыл бұрын
Just got a 981 GTS. I remember when these came out. What a special car. Great video.
@netcrashYT 3 жыл бұрын
A C same here, what a car eh? Can be driven almost at full tilt without it killing you either!
@ACKWV 3 жыл бұрын
netcrashYT I’m not quite there yet but slowly learning it. The sound is absolutely incredible.
@phil.i.am2 3 жыл бұрын
I've had 981 Boxster with PDK and thinking of stretching to the GTS - did you guys go for Manuals?
@netcrashYT 3 жыл бұрын
@@phil.i.am2 i went from base Boxster w manual to GTS w PDK, you can almost see the logic in it. But also I'm in an urban area and love driving it and not garage queening it. If I had a huge garage and wide open country roads it would have been a manual again.
@ACKWV 3 жыл бұрын
Phil yeah mine is a manual. It’s my daily and I do about 10,000 a year. I looked for a manual for ages, I called Porsche and specced a 718 4.0 but they were a bit useless at phoning me back etc so I ended up buying a 16 plate 3.4 with 10,000 miles on it, which incidentally saved me a bit of money 😂 It’s a really nice car, definitely go and drive one. The sound with PSE is incredible, it’s one of the best sounding cars I’ve ever driven bar a V12 Vantage S. It’s comfortable, not too bad on fuel and people really like it, literally all my immediate neighbours were out chatting to me about it the day after I picked it up. I think I’ll keep this car a very long time unless something temps me away but that would have to be really good.
@chriskelsey2628 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and agree 997.2 GT3 & 981 GT4 are quite different cars, the GT4 has the front suspension from the 991 GT3 with mid engined balance but the GT3 has that engine and those looks. I have a GT4 and think it’s probably a better handling car but I would have the GT3! However, the GT4’s are way cheaper!!
@DailyisRaceCar 2 жыл бұрын
997.1 GT3 was the last narrow body. The .2 here was the first to carry the wide body from the 4s/turbo. Nice review, lovely car
@hmk911 Жыл бұрын
.2 is also narrow body.
@damindra 3 жыл бұрын
What a great vid again Joe! Got to ask it that the Brecon Beacons? Would like to know the location as can be part of a road trip for me and my work mates! Great camera work as well!
@robro911 3 жыл бұрын
Gods own county, North Yorkshire, Blakey Ridge from Hutton le Hole, fantastic drivers road, but watch out for the sheep ! ps. go on a week day, it's much quieter
@gregbutterworth5020 3 жыл бұрын
Just to correct you the seats are NOT the clubsport spec and the carbons brakes were still an option on the clubsport spec of which 15 can to the uk....the RS also had the same body with extensions and NOT a a turbo body...Aside from that a sublime car and I speak from experience as a CS owner...sublime !!! Every petrol head needs one at some stage in their journey...
@chrisglover2133 3 жыл бұрын
Recognised one of those bends... near Pocklington!
@grahamtricker4103 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video.
@machtschnell7452 3 жыл бұрын
I like GT cars with which one can travel across continent. Luggage room is mandatory as is a comfortable cabin for cruising. Liked our BMW 2800CS especially. Like my BMW 335is. Newer more powerful GT are nice and desirable, but many struggle to get past 20 mpg and all are too fast for US highways as quite frankly is my 335is. Once outside of Texas, the highways seem like slow moving escalators patrolled by the revenue Gestapo.
@EVILGT 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely considering buying one of these 😍😍😍
@gixxr88 Жыл бұрын
This is peak 911, don't get me wrong still have immense love for all the gt cars, but there's just something about the 997, will definitely be one of the most collectible ad the years go by
@polattanoglu756 3 жыл бұрын
Definition of a real car.
@hovanthecool1995 3 жыл бұрын
GT3 997.2 is really clean. 😀
@karlisrubenis 3 жыл бұрын
I just realized you kind of sound like Tiff Needell, at least to my American ears. Another good video.
@luxuryviplifestyle9494 3 жыл бұрын
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@malph9216 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Joe...as usual. But driving this car just shows how much enjoyment EVs are stripping out of actually driving a car. You'll never be able to engage with an EV like you can with a car like this Porsche! That noise is something else.
@JoeAchilles1 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers! And yeah agreed although the owner also owns the Taycan I recently reviewed and they both compliment each other quote well
@jimtiernan2782 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear your comparison of a 997.2 Carrera 2 and your M2C, as a low mileage Porsche is similar price to a lightly used M2C
@juzefzoozoo 9 ай бұрын
That is the best driver's car ever made.
@Themazcorner 3 жыл бұрын
How shocked I was when a purple colored one (don't know exact age but one of the older 997s) turned into a neighbours house yesterday :)
@freddysheppard6410 3 жыл бұрын
Them Metzger flybys 🤤 The 981 GT4 is a tough one to beat, I bought a gen 2 R8 V10 Plus to replace mine but ended up selling the R8 after a month and keeping the GT4! You’d be more than welcome to have the keys to the GT4 for a day to make a video bud, just drop me a line!
@jamest5149 3 жыл бұрын
Joe, you can ‘go in fast’ in a 911 if you trail brake 👍
@rob5521 3 жыл бұрын
Owned a 997.2 GT3 , currently own a GT3 Touring. Surprising how different they are . The 4.0 liter engine in the Touring , suspension set up and 4 wheel steering moved the Touring onto another level. But the engagement of the 997.2 , it’s assault on senses makes it one of the best drivers cars I’ve come across. If I had to choose which is the better ( if it is a valid benchmarking ...) i would have to say 4.0 liter engine in Touring gives it the edge.
@sultandhahi3046 Жыл бұрын
Own both and I completely agree.
@brianhimmelman420 Жыл бұрын
own 997.1 GT3 RS and 991.2 GT3 Touring with lots of mods -100lbs plus each … love them both
@dennisn.9583 6 ай бұрын
What feels better and more like a race car? The 997.2 or 991.2 gt3? I am not sure what to buy.
@schmuck6 2 жыл бұрын
Did this GT3 have lowered gearing as a standard gt3 gearing is pretty much the same as a GT4.... you get over 80 in 2nd gear easily?
@TobiasHenreich 3 жыл бұрын
I need one in my life 🙏
@thamil1365 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, a real car... Not that BMW Audi Nonsense 💪
@MotechPerformance 3 жыл бұрын
One day !! 😍
@ciko_pancho8982 3 жыл бұрын
Love my 997.2 Carrera S, however the GT3 is the dream. Prices are just far too ridiculous these days.
@simmo2745 3 жыл бұрын
this or a GT4, saving up now!
@shaheenevans 3 жыл бұрын
So would you get 981 gt4 or this for 100 000 pound? That’s what I’m weighting you JA?
@rubengomes1223 3 жыл бұрын
My dream car
@grantfergusson231 3 жыл бұрын
Do u prefer a manual box in a porsche?
@rokstaz 3 жыл бұрын
how lucky are you... can Tom be my friend too ;) so how does that differ to the more recent GT3 RS which I saw one race by me heading to Goodwood last year :D
@rustystuff 3 жыл бұрын
WOW 😮
@curtiswaynethomas3304 3 жыл бұрын
DO A 996 MK2 GT3 NEXT...
@marcusoutdoors4999 7 ай бұрын
For me it is the GOAT. 430bhp from such a wonderful engine with that fairly low weight is perfect. Post the 997 the 911 has lost its way getting too big and synthetic. For me they should split the 911 model range and create an analogue model which is smaller, manual only, normally aspirated with real dials only and no ABS or traction aids. As it is I think I’ll be keeping my 997 for ever.
@horismainza7808 3 жыл бұрын
Joe how does this car compare to the m2cs. I have always believe if you compare car phylosphy to super cars. BMWs are Porsche and Mercedes are lamborghini's. especially if consider bmw emphasis over engineering the chassis compared to the available power Mercedes looks at the same problem differently giving cars power and engineering the design or chassis to accommodate the power
@JoJoJoker 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car. GT3 has the GT3 body. Cab, C4 & GTS also use this body. GT3 RS 4.0 has the Turbo/GT2/GT2 RS body. Got it?
@hmk911 Жыл бұрын
GT3 uses the narrow body with 1808mm width.
@laurencegibbs3640 3 жыл бұрын
Now a 996 GT3 is probably just a smidge more than your M2 CS . I'll just leave that here. Sure someone will lend you one to try 😁
@marcducati 3 жыл бұрын
I laughed when he said how the car felt small. 🤣 I have a 993.....
@000GunterGabriel000 3 жыл бұрын
Have owned and are still owning a 997.2 GT3 RS, 981 Spyder, 993 3.8 and a GT3 Touring. The 997.2 beats them all. 981 doesnt come close. Dead steering, mushy rear axle, long gearing, no real race pedigree. 993 comes the closest but would have to mod to bring it's best out more. Gearshifts are a pain in the a.. in the RS and i plan to switch to the 4.0 Clutch etc because Porsche softened and optimized it quite a bit it seems. Regarding the steering and your seating position i assume you were aware of that you can pull the wheel towards you?
@sultandhahi3046 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@sabihbeck885 3 жыл бұрын
Would you choose 997.2 gt3 or 997.1 RS? Coming from a gts and loving the wide body.
@000GunterGabriel000 3 жыл бұрын
@@sabihbeck885 Tough choice. Havent driven the .1 RS but i think it's even more pure and raw. I guess i would go purely after te looks, if the RS isn't too much in form of wing and such i would take the RS. The RS may also outperform the GT3 when it comes to future prices.
@sabihbeck885 3 жыл бұрын
@@000GunterGabriel000 thanks! The euro rs also has the plexi glass. Tough choices but both amazing
@000GunterGabriel000 3 жыл бұрын
@@sabihbeck885 Some say the 997.1 RS is the best of all RS and i can see their point. Perfect power for the road, raw and refined overall.
@dabbadoodle 11 ай бұрын
This is the one...
@swiss889 3 жыл бұрын
This or a BMW M2 cs?
@zzhughesd 3 жыл бұрын
Minge content. As good as content Gonna get surely.
@RealOlawo 10 ай бұрын
The GT3 here is not a club Sport, as it has no roll cage and the seats have leather. CS would have carbon seats with textile.
@ScottPC 3 жыл бұрын
Where are these roads!!!??
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