Don't forget that Mudragon not only protects itself, but by making it fire; the fire deck cannot target their own fire monsters.
@ianwentz66176 ай бұрын
Yes, however as he stated they can just Fire King High Avatar Kirin to destroy it basically for free, as Kirin does not target.
@lmr44036 ай бұрын
@@ianwentz6617 Like Josh already said: this is not killing a field on its own, it is in combination with other cards. I don't talk specifically about Fire King but fire decks in general. Since for the other variations with mudragon fire on the field by example makes it that princess in grave can't activate. For simplicity, consider the most obvious spoly deck: Branded. Branded lost on field before the superpoly would make it that flam+princess in grave won't proc, or branded opening in grave would protect the mudragon, or a calledby. Making it good trades for most their interactions.
@nightwish70746 ай бұрын
The only card that matters with is Princess, nothing else targets
@lmr44036 ай бұрын
@@nightwish7074 Princess is naturally the main reason, but naturally there are other cards depending on the version and tech; some run circle or sky burn which both are then also dead.
@Federico18716 ай бұрын
I think spoly into mudragon discarding opening is the goat play. Then from there you puppet the fool
@brasil29076 ай бұрын
Ghoti’s banishing interactions and the fact that they can always play on your opponents turn (nice follow-up, anyway shif eff to synchro?) makes it seem like a really good sleeper budget pick for the format
@lasoren5 ай бұрын
Negate shif. Oh no, anyway, Paces effect to synchro?
@strength51495 ай бұрын
They are legitimately really good this format, went almost undefeated through five rounds last time against mostly snake eye
@CGTradez5 ай бұрын
@@strength5149same & I 2-0 every voiceless player, Deep beyond puts fear into their soul😂
@roguesheepygo5 ай бұрын
They’re missing consistent starter pieces and versatility
@PyroniumZ5 ай бұрын
The deck only needs 1 more wave of decent support to actually be good, like many tcg exclusives, but konami forgor or will just give some horrible new synchro that helps with nothing
@ashikjaman19406 ай бұрын
I still find it so funny that the Fire King Structure literally came with Droll
@Extendia5 ай бұрын
Watcha mean?
@SwagMaster8245 ай бұрын
Why? The card needed a reprint
@imnotacat52995 ай бұрын
It makes sense, it's a very popular card at the moment
@OsirusHandle6 ай бұрын
Something you didnt mention: Droll is great vs many of the non snake decks... until they drop shifter and its useless.
@NicholasHatley-el4gl6 ай бұрын
Poor ash, you use it and then your opponent will just steal it with hita if you don't add back to your hand😭 it's crazy that fire decks can play through like 3 hands traps. Such a resilient fire meta
@OsirusHandle6 ай бұрын
To be fair you only go into hiita if you have too, usually you go sunlight wolf.
@rasta93aa6 ай бұрын
Immagine give him a lava golem and It can still have 2-3 interaction 🥲🥲
@shadowersm6 ай бұрын
right? like you give em lava golem to take out their amblo/heatsoul and their I:P and they still have princess, kirin, garunix, flamberge, ponix, ash, oak as interactions on "your" turn
@OsirusHandle6 ай бұрын
@@shadowersm half of those arent actually interactions they just add stuff back
@Ragoodtama6 ай бұрын
why a lots of complain in here? last time fire deck were meta when fire fist still a thing, which like 10 years ago, also this is the first time pyro getting a solid support. Is refreshing when dark and light are not the top deck atm.
@maxthebear77656 ай бұрын
I think the solution might have something to do with Necrovalley.
@ItSpooling_6 ай бұрын
Necrovalley dragoon
@alexanderspassov47596 ай бұрын
Love this style of content from Josh
@sladevalen21206 ай бұрын
The more they keep doing this the more i want to just all in on a stun deck. If hand traps and board breakers arent enough to beat them might as well go to floodgates.
@josephcourtright80716 ай бұрын
I feel like D. Fissure deserves a mention here. The fire king and the snake eyes cards must go to the graveyard in order to get their effects. D. Fissure prevents anything that is exiting the board from going to the grave.
@chaosinfernoid90085 ай бұрын
Or Soul Drain and Deck Lockdown are awesome.
@aaronallen53075 ай бұрын
It is a great card unless you deck is relying on graveyard as well for the grind game
@somerandomweeb48366 ай бұрын
I love how he tries to defend the fire decks. 1. The mirror 2. If they misplay
@chucotownchino28036 ай бұрын
I mean there's also the factor of your own deck too. If you drop 2 or 3 hand traps and stop them, but die to 1 hand trap in return its gg yeah obviously because your deck isn't as resilient
@OsirusHandle6 ай бұрын
Honestly its a fun deck to play with and against IF your deck is similarly powerful.
@somerandomweeb48366 ай бұрын
@@chucotownchino2803 Is this supposed to be an unrelated statement or a counterargument? The fact that other decks aren't resilient while the fire deck is doesn't help it's case .
@GutiTheJ6 ай бұрын
I think konami has thrown balance out the window officially for money
@Lawler504316 ай бұрын
@@OsirusHandle And that's the problem: the other options just aren't as powerful.
@OsirusHandle6 ай бұрын
Crow is also nice if you draw as 6th turn for princess and garunix
@dovydog150b55 ай бұрын
Really helpful for someone wanting to learn interactions with board breakers, thank you :)
@zjweele136 ай бұрын
Silent Graveyard if you can afford the discard or Gravekeeper's Inscription could be good against fire decks
@TheMeetymeet5 ай бұрын
Honestly wouldn't be bad with the upcoming archetype Tenpai. It does shut down their Synchros, but if you know you can put out enough damage to OTK, that doesn't matter.
@chimeratcg076 ай бұрын
Those Euro print cards are gorgeous.
@TiredEastCoastLakersFan6 ай бұрын
Isn’t Imperm and effect Veiler not great because they could have the Kirin to dodge? Or do you think the value of removing the snake-eye from the board still value enough?
@zweis6 ай бұрын
If they use Kirin to dodge Imperm they won't have a Snake-Eye on board to summon Flamberge. Poplar can grab Original, but if you summon Oak off Original you can't grab Ponix. It definitely makes their line way more awkward if you hit the Ash.
@TiredEastCoastLakersFan6 ай бұрын
@@zweis appreciate the feedback!
@nonadqs6 ай бұрын
@@zweis actually they just promethean bring back ash.
@asdfjkl39445 ай бұрын
@@zweis No. Imperm only vs ash kirin is completely losing. There's plenty of different lines but one of them ends on heatsoul ip princess with fire king setup and both kirin and flamberge in hand.
@zweis5 ай бұрын
@@asdfjkl3944 Shhh don't tell people about the Duelittle line
@HiImTylerr6 ай бұрын
Magical Spring is another really good side card. You draw 3 or 2 discard 1 against Snake Eyes. That paired with Phantazmay and Tactics you will actually be able to draw into your board breakers and also keep up with card advantage going second.
@TheVidens456 ай бұрын
I'm so iffy with Magical spring because myself ends only on Masq in Mp + field spell, playing pure SE. So if I see Magical spright I just have to use Flamberge and my opponent will draw discard , putting him -1
@HiImTylerr5 ай бұрын
@@TheVidens45 thats why you should always chain to flamburge instead of shotgunning it
@Destrudo53595 ай бұрын
It's ass
@OctyPFI6 ай бұрын
His take on Evenly is all nice and stuff… but then they keep flamberge to pop it with promethean and I just Ns Robina and they are like: Dude!😮
@BlackHeronTCG5 ай бұрын
y'all sleeping on Rising Rebellion Falcon..... 🗣🔥
@viizva6 ай бұрын
board breakers i hate hand traps except imperm drawing hand trap as 6th card is so bad board breakers ftw
@xCorvus7x6 ай бұрын
Yeah, Imperm can double as a boardbreaker.
@EndlessMalice6 ай бұрын
Play against SE FK. Drop Gnomaterial on I:P summon so they can't make Princess or Amblo. Opponent malds.
@WombatOfDisaster5 ай бұрын
Love it
@danielm49496 ай бұрын
Hope you have an excellent weekend Josh!!💯
@jasonhutchinson69805 ай бұрын
As a fellow player of 20 years, I am here in Texas shaving My head and watching this video and just showing appreciation for the in-depthness of the video, keep it up My wonderful brother 👑💖
@OMGWYATT6 ай бұрын
There’s actually a pretty cool version of the deck without Bonfire/Wanted (still requires at least 1 Poplar and 1 Princess, and ideally 1 S:P, but could use Knightmare Unicorn/Phoenix/Cerberus if you don’t own one) that uses the Superheavy package to make Infernal Flame Banshee to grab Ash/Poplar that ends on 3 Mat Apo, Zealantis, and Flamberge w/ Kirin in hand, plus 4 other cards. It plays worse into Droll/Nib, but through Droll you can make Dweller or Bagooska.
@OMGWYATT6 ай бұрын
The guy went 9-1 at Reg’s last week, and was 3-0 in mirror match.
@PyroniumZ5 ай бұрын
The evol package is also not the worst and pretty cheap, just gives you 2 free omnis because of Lars and if you got extra extenders you can make dolkka during your turn too ontop of the usual stuff, also plays well into droll since none of the evol cards care about it
@JynxedKnives5 ай бұрын
Bring back arise heart to kill the graveyard is the only way 😭
@williamclemens84565 ай бұрын
Thrust into GK Inscription, bait the I:P/ Formula and OTK if your deck can (like Galaxy Photon (yes I am bias I know, but it isn't difficult to otk with N62 or C62))? I dunno, just takin a shot here lol
@DonMarzzoni5 ай бұрын
You can't use inscription if you thrust first
@williamclemens84565 ай бұрын
@@DonMarzzoni Oh, oops, was goin by memory
@TheHoodMVP6 ай бұрын
My boy Cody just won the 500+ Rosemont regional with FK and he played board breakers. Only Mained droll
@theazuredemon48545 ай бұрын
My observation is that I think that if handtraps and board breakers aren't going to be good this format, then the solution is combo decks that have a lot of gas in the tank for early, mid and late game(I have been testing by myself to see how good a 60-card 3X Crimson King structure would handle this best since I have not been testing with handtraps since those can be expensive depending on which ones, and it has a LOT of gas, and can even win via time thanks to Scarlight Red Dragon Archfiend and Red Resonator, fitting for the Master of Faster, Jack Atlas himself) and... floodgates(DISGUSTANG!)... I also expect Soul Drain prices to skyrocket since it is an anti GY and Banishment card though I also expect Imperial Iron Wall prices to skyrocket as well because of banishment decks, which might be tied for tier 1 alongside FIRE Decks, and combo decks with lots of gas in the tank, or Swordsoul Tenyi just becomes tier 0 instead because it is combo deck disguised a banishment deck, though that last on might be just wishful thinking...
@STH-hm8iv5 ай бұрын
Would maid outfitter be a unique choice in a fire king/snake-eye mirror as a side deck option rather than soul release? Ik it's a banish any one card but if it's a main Deck card it can be a extender. Like banish snake eye ash to add it or popular
@guntherbruckl54315 ай бұрын
I think phantazmay is very underrated, because its a free body, trades in your favour and most important it works going 2nd. Overall, it is still card advantage, but of course, it doesn't solve the board on its own.
@Malidala5 ай бұрын
As a hard second aficionado, and anti-meta enjoyer, I've been testing every possible non-engine for beating Snake-eyes and I have come to a lot of the same conclusions. I've ended up just playing Ariseheart turbo. I'm not sure what engine you can play to have enough hand traps to stop Snake-eyes besides Snake-eye without bricking since Snake-eyes wins the long game, and going second and trying to board break is just too late. You cannot let them ever get their resource loop up and running. It really is just floodgate or mirror match.
@CubemasterXD6 ай бұрын
whats your opinion on the shaddoll fusion tech?
@lukepetito4716 ай бұрын
Great Content, One thing is that you stated to play with the cards but I am unable due to price (Also no one at my locals can afford it either). Would it be possible for you to go over the combo and weak points for hand traps. I do understand, extenders and different variants will have key considerations when hand traping them.
@tonik87995 ай бұрын
So there is a lot to take from this video. Thanks Josh for the showing
@christianhelbig34665 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video!! Ist helps a lot!!!
@Adrianovaz20075 ай бұрын
Question: When eventually Konamy starts depowering the Snake-Eye bs do you think they might hit anything from the SDFK? I wanted to build FKs (without Snake-Eyes) and didnt wanna spend money on a fun deck to get shafted again by the big scary meta monster getting hit. Dunno if Ponix is top priority (feels like the spells and Flamberge are more important to hit) but wa ted to be sure anyway.
@mourex226 ай бұрын
should we delta original or wanted?
@EleggGaming6 ай бұрын
Original since they play at 1 at the moment, the ocg are playing at least 2 of it right now
@mourex226 ай бұрын
@@EleggGaming really thought that wanted was the best, but original makes sense as well, ty!
@nonadqs6 ай бұрын
@@EleggGaming original is a 1 effect, not 1 activation per turn. And pure sometimes does play 2 original.
@guillermocarvajal9955 ай бұрын
This was very helpful, thank you!
@ianwentz66176 ай бұрын
Time to hide in Edison format until this crazy nightmare blows over lol.
@dpacula636 ай бұрын
I’m hiding in Pokémon. I’ve contemplated going to Edison, but compared to modern Yugioh it’s basically a completely different game so might as well actually switch to a game I like more than retro Yugioh.
@ianwentz66176 ай бұрын
@dpacula63 Yeah, I have played nearly since the game's inception and the Edison timeframe was by far one of the highest points in the game for me, so it's really easy for me to go back to. Modern Yugioh is one of the hardest things to play because a lot of the time, it doesn't even feel like a game but a solitaire simulator. There is for sure skill in modern Yugioh, but the low points truly feel worse year after year, while the high points don't seem to last as long.
@rsdmusic63256 ай бұрын
Yeah, no kidding. All I heard was “take a break until this shitstorm passes”
@BassMessiah1006 ай бұрын
Im having a blast with the game ever since ishizu tear stoped being a thing
@dpacula636 ай бұрын
@@ianwentz6617I’ve only been playing since 2013 so I don’t really have an attachment to Edison. So for me it just feels like a completely different game. I don’t mind modern Yugioh, I just can’t afford it and I’m tired of this community that shames you and calls you a casual if you aren’t rich.
@redoctober676 ай бұрын
All I'm getting from this video is guaranteed hit to Snake-Eye and/or Fire King on the next banlist if not an emergency hit already by then.
@grodon9096 ай бұрын
Nah. Emergency banlist is cope, the deck isn't that strong (edit for clarity: as compared to other tier 0 decks like tear or zoo), just really resistant. They probably won't touch snake eyes for a bit because it's a lore archetype, which they take a while to hit, and it helps sell the most recent sets via poplar and bonfire. They won't touch fire king since it's not the problem, and it's also a recent structure deck, which would be worse from a sales perspective as well. They might limit or semi something, but even then, the decks are consistent enough that it doesn't do much.
@ashikjaman19406 ай бұрын
@@grodon909 it'd be really funny if they banned I:P or Linkuriboh
@redoctober676 ай бұрын
@@grodon909 it’s funny how you say the deck isn’t that strong when literally everybody else is talking about it being almost tier 0
@grodon9096 ай бұрын
@@redoctober67 who's everybody? Josh says it's near tier 0, not at it. Pak and similar creators are literally just trying to clickbait for views because it's their job, and you get a bunch of people who just parrot what they say. Like you can just look at the actual results. We've had the deck legal for a weekend, regionals show that even combining FK and pure snake eyes, it's less than 50% top cut, not tier 0 by definition. "not that strong" was poor phrasing on my part. Look at other tier 0 metas, like tear format. The power level of that deck was far above that of any other deck. Snake eyes builds are the strongest in the room for sure, but other decks can still compete (see: multiple regional tops and wins for Kash, branded, tear, etc this weekend). Snake eyes seems like it may get close, but the counterplay can actually effect it--decks like tear had very little counterplay outside a mirror.
@RoyaltonDrummer9226 ай бұрын
@@grodon909I don’t think there will be an emergency banlist but the deck is STRONG. It’s ridiculous to say it’s not
@durgons7495 ай бұрын
For master duel, Retaliating C is actuslly decent. I recommend looking into it.
@CaptianAlvin36455 ай бұрын
If you play pure snake eyes and get shiftered depending on when they use it and what cards are in your hand you can just search the traps with pop and Diabell. both traps are so unrated and helped me win at locals. Also the one diabell quick play spell is dirty if timed right.
@soerenheuer31545 ай бұрын
Minute 6 against Shifter, let the whole world know the secret: Built up Field spell plus Follow-up and a Kikinagashi Fucho.
@Exodiasmysticshineballz6 ай бұрын
Kurikara is really good as a 1 of in snake eye. searchable, good going second, and gets a boost from the field spell. im running 2 more in the side deck too because my locals has players that like to activate alot of monster effects on my turn lol.
@PartyMarty3216 ай бұрын
You could end on Zealantis and Flamberge, you then summon the I:P. Super Poly still works but it’s for a monster no one really runs! Also I got Evenly Matched today and only left Flamberge on field, I won the game. Blew my mind that an Evenly didn’t do much.
@lobsterbisque3336 ай бұрын
*hears Shifter* Now where did my Floo cards wander
@RoyaltonDrummer9226 ай бұрын
Josh made this video just to flex his ulti’s
@paddeler926 ай бұрын
What do you think about the Shaddoll Fusion Board Breaker approach? Maybe for sidedecking?
@asdfjkl39445 ай бұрын
A good sefk player just plays around shaddoll fusion using zealantis so only sometimes. And ash on shaddoll fusion really hurts
@gonzamm61386 ай бұрын
I just make a masked hero dark law and see if the fire decks have an out
@PyroniumZ5 ай бұрын
almost half of their decks are staples
@ngbtvezadtht5 ай бұрын
@Joshua Schmidt great video! could you make a small change to your videos? im a new player so im not familiar with all the cards, and throughout the video you have these really quick popups on the center of the screen of cards you are referencing - but the problem is that they just disappear too quick, move too fast, and are too small for me to read. thanks
@MurdahProduXtions2 ай бұрын
20:10 Josh - “how much room you have for non engine” …. Tenpai exists. I main lab (heavy trap build) rather than hand trap, and want to paper build but currently Big welcome, Arias and Daruma are big cost in tcg at least. So I’m building tenpai mainly bc this fire format is toxic af and realistically the only way to combat fire is heavy hand traps and with tenpai having maybe at most a 20 card engine this is accounting for the not yet released genroku as well as set rotation and terraforming
@cermark025 ай бұрын
Thoughts in lullaby of obidience. I mean its good for mirror against fire targeting ash, good for bait or +1 in your fire charmer
@as2ss6 ай бұрын
Im curious as to your thoughts on the shaddoll fusion combo
@rCrypto_Frog41484 ай бұрын
now.
@trevvion35 ай бұрын
Evenly matched x3 in Paleozoics, princess doesn't trigger on normal summon ie Lilith, ojama blue, wannabee... Just saying (Lava and Sphere are for Omni negates and evenly the rest) Raise to full heights, Dinomischus etc
@qwertyg36665 ай бұрын
Thoughts on kash control this format? Obviously if you open shifter it's great but going 1st feels pretty solid too no? Unicorn and fenrir are both very impactful endboard pieces. Cutting players off of both combo and recursion.
@steeveedragoon6 ай бұрын
Something that I want to ask about is silent graveyard. Without a doubt, snake-eye itself can't really use it, but for almost any other deck it should be really effective in the matchup as a going first or going second card. Even for myself as a mannadium player, it doesn't really hurt that much, as it only turns off Meek's, Abscision's, and Light heart's graveyard effects. Not ideal, but it can certainly be played around. Although, I would use dweller instead if I'm going first instead. Unless I'm forgetting something, that only really leaves the fire king variant with Kirin and I:P. There's certainly more debate about how good it is against the synchro variant.
@nonadqs6 ай бұрын
Aren't you better off using GK inscription and calling no SS from GY on mannadium?
@steeveedragoon6 ай бұрын
@@nonadqs possibly, but it turns off arrival, cross sheep, and Calarium's 2nd effect. What Silent graveyard turns off feels less important than those, at least in my opinion.
@steeveedragoon6 ай бұрын
@@nonadqs oh yeah, I also just remembered that SG can be used in response to an opponent's card, so you don't have to use it immediately, and you may get to resolve those grave effects that it would otherwise turn off.
@gubigubigubigubi5 ай бұрын
Its really funny seeing you say "I dont see how the board breaker approach works." When last regionals I won the majority of my matches against fireking/snake-eyes with 0 hand traps going blind second lol I'm def not saying its the best way to go but If I only played vs fireking I would be much happier with my going 2nd deck.
@Blackwolf6306 ай бұрын
What about shaddoll fusion is that good. I would like a video for that card
@kevincorporation87806 ай бұрын
whats about silent graveyard isnt this a great choice against FK?
@dvast6 ай бұрын
Question: Might this be the format were Power Filter is good?
@ItSpooling_6 ай бұрын
Deck lockdown
@blackview12855 ай бұрын
21:07 the zombie field spell
@Mack19905 ай бұрын
Props for the Celeste music on this one.
@vitorapollinario93356 ай бұрын
The most fun YCS Vegas top would be Floowandereeze, Runick Stun, Kashtira and Spright. Would be a slap into Konami mouth, only thing better would be if the players take conscience and boycott the event!!! Tier 0 is a issue, tier 0 and price out, great job Konami. The minimum they could do would be make the decks affordable. They are so creepy and arbitrary that they even want to force you to play fire into master duel to. It's like, we gonna decide what you gonna like or not. They are so dumb that theres a chance that in the next banlist they ban or limit shifter, just like they did with gamma on shifter format. Then in four-five months is gonna be Tear, Runick, Purrely, Spright, Dragon Link all over again, it's feels like yugioh TCG become a endless looping...
@PyroniumZ5 ай бұрын
Ban shifter would be good either way. Removes one of the counters yes but it removes a card that has and would otherwise stay way longer than snake eyes
@HiImTylerr6 ай бұрын
6:45 Fucho+Downerd+Zeus or Dharc summon Shifter make Selene hard draw a spellcaster or Wanted/Diabellstar summon it then make 2 mat Apollousa.
@MrRigamorris6 ай бұрын
I came here to say fucho is probably the best shifter play. It doesn’t do much but it guarantees you don’t lose.
@reine46416 ай бұрын
Super poly is good if you have the branded lost set up
@blugetsbusy45085 ай бұрын
Fire king snake eye is just stupid Man 😭. That shit gotta get hit quick man. Nastiest deck I’ve seen in a long time
@mattialombardi28726 ай бұрын
Hi Joshua, i have a small question, (i'm actually testing your version of Lab) since you said droll Is not so Good, with what card can i replace It? d.d. crow? Talents? Or maybe main nibiru and side droll? Sorry for the long question
@lordofgarbageprogenitoroft41476 ай бұрын
Join me in lab terrorism and maindeck shifter
@PartyMarty3216 ай бұрын
Also don’t forget Snake-Eye oak can bring a Lvl 1 back from being banished!
@metropacks6 ай бұрын
E-con & super polly in pure version is pretty nice
@OsirusHandle6 ай бұрын
Vs evenly you can go summon ip make sp summon ash oak add back 2 then when they evenly you sp your oak and sp. danger is they fake bp but do you care that much esp with kirin in hand
@zakelli14725 ай бұрын
What about shaddoll fusion ? Would love to hear your opinion about it.
@ailediablo795 ай бұрын
Soul Drain, response 😂 Kashtiera with this trap and other stuff Kash could play would shutdown the deck. The version that plays Zeus is the only one that maby wins. Flow Stun ,and Stun Flodgates (including Soule Drain) is another option. You have Labyrinth stun is also crazy.
@imda776 ай бұрын
My biggest issue with Snake Eye variants being Tier 0 is the price. That's just unhealthy for the game.
@MrLastGuide5 ай бұрын
how does skull meister compare to crow and belle? considering it for a lvl4 deck
@pasce21545 ай бұрын
what do u think about the shaddol fusion package?
@JulioGuevara966 ай бұрын
Best hand traps and techs for labrynth? Belle ash and dd crow?
@NutLump6 ай бұрын
I have a weird question about interactions. Say i have Cursed Seal of the Forbidden Spell, if they move a card into the spell/trap zone, would i be able to activate?
@asdfjkl39445 ай бұрын
Cursed seal negates activation of a spell. They aren't activating a spell by placing so no
@NutLump5 ай бұрын
@@asdfjkl3944 damn
@inciaradible71445 ай бұрын
Not even an ulti ghost ogre. What are we paying this man for?
@ProjectCambo5 ай бұрын
Would silent graveyard be an ok card to side against fire king?
@reesejackson59355 ай бұрын
He just wanted to flex the rarities on us😂
@bwygo6 ай бұрын
The money in this video😂
@RockerOf60s70s80s6 ай бұрын
Considering on the type of deck you play, why not Silent Graveyard?
@ale_mila016 ай бұрын
Is shaddoll fusion sending shaddoll dragon and shaddoll Ariel and make el shaddoll apkalone an idea going second against fire King snake eye?
@Egod036 ай бұрын
You stole that tech dude. Why are you asking him if you already know it breaks the board.
@ashikjaman19406 ай бұрын
I wouldn't recommend running Shaddolls just so Fusion can act as a board breaker since you'll need a fair bit of soft garnets and it doesn't do much going first. But if you're running a deck that would already benefit from the Shaddolls as a separate engine (maybe a Branded variant) then it doesn't sound bad necessarily.
@kennethhernandez67076 ай бұрын
@@Egod03almost everyone steals Tech by your logic, shut up cringe
@kennethhernandez67076 ай бұрын
@@Egod03clown
@MangoMorto6 ай бұрын
It’s pretty good going 2nd
@BirdMan8086 ай бұрын
My issue with the ht approach is that statistically you always have to draw 2 to stop them but if you draw nobe you just lose bc your deck is not built to play thru boards. Board breaker evaluation imo is more about technical play rather than looking at cards that ourright beat the deck
@ageha66076 ай бұрын
Exactly, you need 2+ handtraps but you immediately lose if they open talent, called by, crossout. Imperm and veiler also lose hard to hard draw kirin as well
@BirdMan8086 ай бұрын
@@ageha6607 yeah, the board is definitely breakable with board breakers or sufficient extenders. I don't like the ht mini game
@payne17275 ай бұрын
Mathmech circular is a good tech card I hear. If only someone didn’t cause it to get banned
@virtualgoatduels10866 ай бұрын
Gamma is the only ht against shifter if he goes 1st cuz we can’t use called by the grave😅so saaaaad
@ethanfritz96036 ай бұрын
Not me getting double soul released while on branded, lost al my follow up
@godsmithofchaos6 ай бұрын
What about Deck lockdown, and Soul Drain to stop Fire Kings?
@scottharris61166 ай бұрын
15:50 couldn’t you also run Veidos as a hand trap against Fire Kings to blow up Island? Cyclone does have the benefit of being a spell and banishing, but Veidos is at least searchable
@JoshuaSchmidtYGO6 ай бұрын
Fire King Sanctuary makes getting rid of Island via destruction very unreliable, otherwise it'd be a great card vs the deck yeah
@erikfigueroa63905 ай бұрын
Exosister and floo players when they happen to draw 2 shifter, 1 soul release and robina/martha be like: 🤑🤑🤑🤑
@itamazsilva63035 ай бұрын
Silent Graveyard BEST CARD!
@invertbrid6 ай бұрын
Best upcoming format prob just play shifter deck tbh....at least u have good chance to win if u draw ur shifter. Thats one reason why kash is getting more popular recently. Necrovalley maybe also nice going first option in side deck.
@Lobster446 ай бұрын
Yeah Kash seems like the best solution if you can't afford to play a fire deck yourself
@josephcourtright80716 ай бұрын
D. Fissure is an excellent tech for the format. All the snake eyes and fire king monsters only get their effect if they go to the graveyard. I personally think it hates on the deck enough to be used going 2nd against them.
@invertbrid6 ай бұрын
@@josephcourtright8071 indeed shifter decks def strong againts em. They can use dfissure also. Floo and kash def pretty nice optiom this format.
@Dethroner05 ай бұрын
What about Gravekeepers inscription?
@rsdmusic63256 ай бұрын
So what I heard was take a hiatus until this format is over lol
@roughreviews66615 ай бұрын
Two words silent graveyard
@Drachei6 ай бұрын
porco dio grazie joshua adessoesso delta costerà ancora di più dopo questo video grazie mille
@ora57995 ай бұрын
its so demoralising watching this video, 1 card combos that leaves you with at least 3-4 cards in hand and diverse interation. being able to run more non engine than any other "good" potential decks, with better potential endboards really sucks if you dont/cant buy into it.
@TiredEastCoastLakersFan6 ай бұрын
Can someone explain to me how Nib is good this format, even alongside an Imperm? Where are you going Nib/Imperm to actually break their board?
@kinofchaos90856 ай бұрын
Nibiru on 5th summon,they dont have a fire to tribute on your turn
@TiredEastCoastLakersFan6 ай бұрын
@@kinofchaos9085 doesn’t the standard combo go 1. Summon Ash > search Populus 2. SS Populus 3. Link off Populus into Linguribo > chain Populus effect to place in S/T zone 4. Effect of Ash to send Populus in S/T zone and itself to SS Flamberg 5. Link off Flameberg and Linguribo into I:P > activate Flameberg to SS 2 lvl 1’s. Is that when you Nib?
@jimaaaaaaaaa6 ай бұрын
Remind me of ishizu tears where we need to clear the graveyard.
@Yagayee6 ай бұрын
What do you think about dark hole dragon, fantazmay and veidos? Edit: what about burning dragon also?
@Yagayee6 ай бұрын
Each card is a plus 1 meaning you have 9 cards going into your turn after the fire king player passes
@Yagayee6 ай бұрын
Some combo lines use sanctuary for the snake eye stuff suddenly turning veidos into a double board wipe if you time it correctly