Damneders - "Nothing short of a nuke can shift the Ironbreakers." Skaven - "That can be arranged yes-yes"

I can hear legend laughing his skaven arse off.

Hang on. Did you just make chaos furies the best unit because they are the only unit unique the Daemons of Chaos?

I feel like the criteria for “good” unit is unclear and inconsistent across each faction. Are we focusing on cost efficiency primarily? Absolute performance? Accessibility? Etc. (Ranking of the importance of each variable?) Maybe the criteria were more clear in the Discord?

No way you put Hellscourge Chosen as best slaanesh unit lol

That discord of yours said stealth magic is S, I wouldn't trust them

Always love an early April fools video

I was skeptical at Chaos Furies and knew this was nonsense when Chosen with Hellscourges came up. Best units in what possible way? Furies that are worse than any other ones but are "unique" and the only Chosen with 0AP damage.

For Nurgle, I would have said Exalted Plaguebearers. That missile attack is devastating, and they're handy in melee too

cool video. just one suggestion. if you do listings like that, please use the timestamp feature so its much easier to find the individual listings.

Not sure what you mean about Furies being the only unit that's unique to them. Do you just mean Furies are the only unit that only Daemons of Chaos can get but Nurgle/Khorne/Slaanesh/Tzeentch mono-gods can't get? Becasue WoC can also get Furies.

Hellscourges have officially been seen at the top and bottom of the Slaanesh roster. The bottom of list one being due to their 0AP dmg and so in a vacuum they are completely useless as they do no damage against mid or late game units and given they are late themselves that’s all they’ll be facing.

I honestly consider hellscourge chosen to be the worst unit in the Slaanesh roster. Go 1v1 with any other chosen unit and they will struggle to net even a single kill.

Not the 0 AP Chosen as the best Slaanesh unit lol

I feel like the criteria for what makes a unit the best unit changed drastically during the video. It started out being "Which units can take on pretty much anything and carry their factions battle single-handedly" yet for some units: They are pretty much useless past turn x and fall off fast but they are cheap. xD Btw, this is the first time I've seen some of these units (only played TW:WH 1 and 2) and the Waywatchers look terrible lol

Keep up the good work man,I love your vids. Respect.

Imo Chosen Whip boys from Slanesh are a trap. 0 Armor Pen and very expensive. Slanesh has the most solid cavalery and I would put these units on the top spot.

On some level I have to think you chose some of these picks just to make people want to comment to tell you how much they disagree w you. Well done.

The empire : hellstorm ( it makes sure that the enemy is brought down to size before your front lines meet them) Bretonia : questing knights ( amazing armor piercing and mobility) Norsca : famir warriors ( sunder armor/ armour piercing/ high armour) Vampire counte : blood knights (good vs all) Dwarfs : ironbreakers ( most unkillable unit) Greenskins : black orcs ( the front line killers.. can pretty much take on anything) Wood-elves : way watchers Beastmen : minotaurs ( mobility plus damage) Lizardmen : ancient stagadon ( front line killer/ blob killer… poision attacks) High elves : sisters of averlorn Darkelves : doomfire warlocks (magic damage and speed) Skaven : posion wind globe/ or mortar ( good vs everything) Tomb kings : tomb scorpion ( animations and front line killing power) Vampire coast : colossus (range/terror/melee) Kislev : warbear riders / war sleds ( pure destruction.. best chariots) Grand cathay : skyjunk (amazing artillery, pays for itself in every battle) Nurgul: soulgrinder (range, poision, melee) Slaneesh : scourge runner charriots (flanking with ap) Tzench : knights (fast tanks) Khorne : bloodthirster/ blood letters/ warriors of khorne dual weapons.(depending on situation can mow through anything… has pretty much best melee killing power in entire game plus they got skarbrand) Warriors of chaos : dragon ogres Ogre kingdoms : crushers ( best cav in game)

2:45 shadeswords are good, but they are twice as slow to recruit as normal shades are. Just that singular fact makes them worse then normal shades. 5:10 nasty skulkers all the way in my opinion. Stalking ap units that can be recruited at tier 2 and get buffed into space by all the goblin tech buffs? Those little lads have 'dwarf killer' written all over them, but to be honest when you got a stack of them going you can outtrade an elite army unit by unit. 11:00 not hellstriders? I know they are a bit of a glass cannon, but their devastating flanker means that they shred even anti large cav in seconds. I even did some battle testing with them, and as long as your micro is average any hellstrider should get you the win.

I know its repetitive to do this. but the game changes so much that this helps. Thanks!

I got some doubt while watching the list until I got to the whipping laugh stock then I know u should not take the list seriously.

For the few people playing tomb kings I personally think tomb guard are their best unit because of how spamable and unkillable they are with heals and faction buffs. Although I can't argue against how strong ushabti great bows are

Nurglings are fking S tier, bro get these in ur front line with Chaos Spawn of Nurgle and youre pretty much golden till turn 60

I audibly shouted "WHAT" when you listed hellscourge chosen as the best slaanesh unit lmao. Arguably one of the worst units in the entire game

Uhhhh no one gonna talk about 0 AP damage for chosen hellscourges? Why not choose the normal chosen instead

At 12:47 , I think you meant to say "Vampire Coast", instead you said "Vampire Counts", I was confused when the Vampire Counts were counted twice here in a row, haha!

Me when i hear the OST at 1:23 "BOW TO ME".

I'm not sure if the Ice Guard is truly the best choice for Kislev. In my opinion the investment necessary for those, be it monetary or technologywise, is too great to ignore. They require a higher tier building than warbear riders (or same if you take the normal ice guard) and whilst they cost a bit less, warbear units offer the same benefits as the Minotaur units: large but not too large, armoured, decently speedy and strong in combat. You could also pick the warsleds for a ranged option. But in my opinion the best unit in Kislevs roster are the Armoured Kossars. They are an early game unit with good armour, silver shields and solid combat stats. The ranged attack gives them a good punch before they engage the enemy or before attacking the flank. And whilst the Ice guard has similar advantages, the fact that you can only get them later in the game and at double the cost makes it hard to justify getting them over 2 units of kossars (Katrin's lord effect helps a bit but it's only for her army), especially if you consider the usually precarious situation you're in as Kislev and that's before you consider all the buffs you can get for Kossars through the tech tree (additionally if you play as funky zealot man your Kossars get buffed as well and this time it's a faction wide buff). After all, why spend time and resources on a unit that's just a bit better instead of using the same resources to field multiple armies which can defend your cities or hold chokepoints.

LOL, that's literally a phalanx for the chosen of slaanesh. Just a pure wall of shields.

Putting peasant bowmen above any knight unit has to be bait

wtf the chosen with hellscourges have literally no armor piercing. How are they the best unit?!

Black orcs are by far the best green skin units.. as they can take on pretty much anything.. and for their price they can go toe to toe with shit that costs more than them.

Armored skin wolves are not Norsca best unit. They are slow, so any cav can catch them inclusing the one that can kill them. The regular skin wolves are so much better because they can actually outrun what can kill them. No Warmamoth are the top Norsca unit, and your escuse to pass them doesn’t even work. They can bust through infantry line faster then Slannesh can bust her nuts, and the few things that can stop them are going to die beffore they die to missil fire, or at leats being put on life support system.

For Vcoast you have to consider depth guards too...they got buffed recently and in 4vs4 units against choses they can win...And for norsca why not normal skin wolves?

With Zerkovich really falling out of love with Warhammer and not uploading much anymore, you are a fantastic replacement! Keep it up!

I disagree on the Khorne's best unit. It definitely is the basic Bloodletters. I mean I would even go so far to call them the best melee unit in the game. As they can almost beat anything in melee, you get them early game and they can serve you the whole game.

For Skaven I prefer to bombardiers over the mortars. The bombardiers will shred infantry and large units alike and they can be handy for sieges as well as they can hit units on the walls. Mortars are effective as well but I find them to take longer to take out units.

Yeah and Bran the Broken was the best choice for king 🙄

I had my sisters doomstack fight the doomseekers warband wich is almost only slayers through a positioning mistake and missclick I basically had to fight them in melee where they somehow absoluteley obliterated them.

I'm just here to see nurglings take no.1 for nurgle

If I can make a suggestion, I wondered if you could explain how direct damage spells work exactly. Why some are best used when targetting a lord, and others when targetting a 120 models unit. Has it only to do with the spell having a set maximum models it can do damage to?

Minotaurs with shields are the best units in any roster within the context of their given roster.

I don't understand the choice of chosen hellscourge when Milkandcookies actually made a whole video about them being bad, a quite conclusive video actually. I mean, there's bound to be debate, opinion and subjectivity, but that's like two extremely opposite opinion about a unit from two youtubers (although here it's an opinion that doesn't come from Colonel himself). Chosen of Slaanesh Hellscourges are really useless in the hammer and hammer Slaanesh roster. Which Slaanesh player is so bad that they need their frontline to hold 5 minutes rather than 4 minutes with much more damage inflicted while they charge around with their other units?

empire knights are empire's best unit because it provides the most power at a point in the game when empire would otherwise be struggling. a t2 shielded cav (w/ decent melee) from a t2 building. these guys can 1v1 almost anything that isn't spearmen when you first field them, on top of the typical cav role. i know that most people complaining about franz' start are not using these.

Someone knows what are the Colonel graphics settings? I can't get good graphics like him and I have a RTX 3070.

Those Dwarf Ironbreakers look sweet-ass

introduction says: which units can pretty much take on anything and carry their factions battle on their shoulders; peasant bows - take on anything ? no. chaos furies - surely not. free company militia? you said yourself they fall off after turn 20 so they cant take on anything after that. 2 seperate videos with early and endgame "best units" would be better imo.

This list is kinda all over the place. Unfair to list late game units and early game units in the same video. Free company for empire? Sure up to turn 20 they're good but you have 140 turns to go after. The list just seems shortsighted.

Feel like this might have been better to do as 2 videos, an early game and a late game best choice, as most of these are either trash in the late game or unable to obtain early on.

For Warriors of Chaos your wrong with the slaanesh unit The great weapon warriors Nurgle variant unit is, they win every melee match up and take very little damage due to poison attacks combine that with any healing or AOE spells you wreak any battle they are in even the 1 million siege battles that are in the game right now.

Stone trolls with that grom ingredient for unbreakable and they seem pretty busted. Granted you want to spam gobbos with Grom, but 3-4 trolls in every army guarantees easy time in smashing enemy infantry. Also HELL NO with hellscourges, they are literally some of the worst units in the game and barely worth it even with WoC tech for extra bonus vs infantry.

1:24 many are the knights of Bretonnia who swore vows to end you for this choice

Aspiring Champions are definitely the better option for the Warriors of Chaos

i agree with most of the list, though i have to say that i didn't play the chaos factions for now. but with vampire counts, i would have picked vargheists as the obvious choice. because the one thing vampires do best apart from hero spam is control of the skies. and the vargheists embody that. they are large monstrous flying units with insane damage. sure, they are squishy, but you get them pretty early and much easier then the varghulf, and if you build a flying army with giant bats to soak arrows, vargheists to deal damage, and a vampire lord on a terrorgheist, you can steamroll most fights (and especially sieges) until the ai starts to bring their best missile units. and even without a specialized army, they are just so good as a flanking unit with their insane damage, that most missile units get absolutely torn apart by them.

correction soa can't tear through anything they lose to a fire-proof dwarf...

Does Valkia get access to minotaurs? I can't find them, if so. ._.

Hellscourge Chosen are one of the worst units, not the best.

1:39 Emphasis on the dirt.

The chaos furries are not exclusive to the daemons. The WoC can also get them as gifted units. I also strongly disagree with slaanesh and the Chosen. The Hellscourges have less AP than most early game units and will lose most fights agains armoured opponents. They might be good with support but a unit that is often useless without support should not be the best. I also think the aspiring champions should win for WoC. its much easier to get a lot of them and with the technologies they become really OP

Controversial opinion but I hardly use shades as The Druchii, the 5 extra range is nice but I prefer to go darkshards with shields, the shields allow them to duel enemy missile units with ease while your hydra and cold ones mop up enemy elite units for you

Indeed the mineators

Pretty good lists, except i dont understand the furies for chaos ?!0.o

Thunder barge entered the chat 😂

Helman Ghorst is calling and is claiming that Zombies are the best unit in the whole game. Not in auto resolve, but Ghorst players know that they can give them orders or blob them up, fall asleep and still win somehow.

Stone trolls? Not the Arachnarok Spider? You picked similar units like the Stegadon and Necrofex Colossus for the Lizardmen and Vampire Coast. Why no love for the giant spiders? And if you're playing as Grom, they can even spawn additional smaller spiders. Stone trolls aren't that dominant. Certainly not essential. I rarely recruit them at all. If I'm going to bother with a unit that takes more than 1 turn to recruit, I'm picking the giant freaking spider every time. 10/10, would digest my enemies' innards again.

Chaos Furries are one of those units you just avoid recruiting unless it's the first 5 turns.

Personally I gotta give it to the Lead Belchers over Man Eaters for the Ogres best unit. Like ya pistols but every other middle tier ogre unit has something of their own. Comparatively there ain't nothing like the walking artillery of the Lead Belchers. Several kinds of shot and cleaning up fine in melee says they are my best.

And why is Majorkill’s outtro playing I must ask? 😅

For Nurgle i have to disagree, Exalted Plaugebearers are insane, their daggers can destroy a large unit like a Dinosaur and their melee stats are very good, the tech tree gives them large buffs like double ammo and 7% ward save

The Exalted Hellscourages are the best units for Slanesh! My guy, those Chosen Hellscourages are the WORST Hellscourages. The normal version are better bc they actually have AP.

Hellscourges? Really? :|

People people this tierlist is based on Dampener's PERCEPTION AND EXPERIENCE with the game, aka trying to make a balanced and varied MP style army IN THE CAMPAIGN, in deep contrast to Soul Grinder doomstack or whatever 2-3 units comp you often see in Legend's stream. To Dampener's Ratling Gun is bad because he doesnt take more than 2 in an army, Jizzail are weak because he uses a frontline of Stormvermin in stead of hero facetanking so plzzz, take that into consideration before calling him out. To Dampener, Chaos Furies are one of the best units ever because he take 2 of them and smash them into the AI's backline on Hard difficulty. Dude doesnt even play on Legendary so dont just flame without thinking.

Heavily disagree on Chosen with Hellscourges. They are a awful late game unit for Slaanesh

Isn’t it a forgone conclusion that the other shades are better than great sword variant every way. Why would you ever go for great swords? Someone explain that mysterious perspective please

Big ups for the Free Company Militia! Excellent choice. Once they have to fight against Armor, they're significantly less useful, but against blobs of low tier units, they're phenomenal. Especially with Fire-Whilst-Moving, allowing them to run down ranged infantry or skirmish cav while ALSO dealing damage.

I like the vid but it is blant, for example waywatchers have missile capability but the treeman is better for damage for cost it is different

Hellscourger Chosen doomstack

thats...VERY interesting take, to say the Least...(as "best" units...lol)

for chaos - aspiring champions. tech just makes them too good.

in warriors of chaos why do u think dragon ogres are stronger than Aspiring champions

I strongly disagree with your take on Bretonnia. Your take is that new players don't know how to micro or complete vows so a cheap easy to use unit is their best one? Can you remake this list but only for players that know how to use the faction? Also as many other commenters have pointed out, I think your discord was trolling you on some other picks as well.

Ive found necrofex to be quite poor in wh3. They melt immediately in melee, and have horrendous accuracy in range. Massive difference to wh2

Great video but I disagree with damn near every point lol

How are ratling guns and ogre artillery not the best unit lmao.

I can’t tell if he’s trolling or Bsing…

I agree with your choice of Daniel's chaos furies, but not for the same reason. They are genuinely the only unit in his roster that has a place in every single army he could possibly build because Demons do not do well against ranged enemies at face value. A vanguard unit that can shred light ranged targets faster than anything at its tier while being replaceable anywhere on the map for basically nothing is invaluable. Don't sleep on furies, my guy!

Whenever you say "faction" you probably mean "race". A "faction" would be a specific lord or part of that race

bro picked the worst possible nurgle unit, this guys trolling😂

Bright 🍬 🏆🙂🙏🏼

This Colonel Damneders guy seems to rank units based very inconsistently. Also, you're a fool if you think Hellscourges are good in a factor that has no missile units.

Peasant bowmen honestly need their range reduced to 140 or 150

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This was a really credible list.

Someone's been watching a bit too much Legend...

You cant be serious with this. You just cant mate😂

Moment when he said doing the things with the discord when in truth it was him, me and two other nice bozos

I'm still playing Warhammer 2.... Even, though.. I bought Warhammer 3 the other day because of the sale, I still haven't installed it. LMFAO! Oh, man... I am such a Snail. Hello, everyone! My name is Gary. LMFAO! ( You know, like the Snail from Sponge bob? )

Bloodknights > Varghulf :D

Probably half of that list is BS. Furrys? Stone trolls? Hellscorges? Dragon Ogres? You play exklusiv on easy?