The BEST Version of the Clone Wars that Casuals Have Never Even Heard of

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0:58 Jedi With a Gun
3:39 Touched By War
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@CommanderSummit
@CommanderSummit Жыл бұрын
I loved how Star Wars: Republic actually felt like a real war. There’s too much good shit in it; Durge, Quinlan Vos, the grey tone, the Alpha ARCs, Jabiim, Dookus Acolytes I can go on.
@waifukitten5726
@waifukitten5726 9 ай бұрын
where do i buy
@67thCloneSquadron
@67thCloneSquadron Жыл бұрын
I love the Republic comics. Especially how it gave a lot of nuance to the Seperatists.
@ajra6143
@ajra6143 Жыл бұрын
Jedi's got a gun. Jedi's got a gun. The galaxy's come undone. From lookin' at the twin suns.
@ThreadBareHope1234
@ThreadBareHope1234 Жыл бұрын
There was a weapons nerd that said Jedi with ranged weapons was better than melee weapons bc they could have the force assist their aim and stuff, and I couldn't agree more. Altho a lightsaber is a symbol and is used for much more than killing so I get why they would keep using it
@jayburn00
@jayburn00 Жыл бұрын
Corran horn's grandfather apparently would dress in plain clothes sometimes while working with Corsec, and I could see that including a blaster.
@masteroftheassassins
@masteroftheassassins Жыл бұрын
I loved the Republic comic series. My absolutely favorite being the Battle of Jabiim. Primarily because it shows that even without Palpatine as the Chancellor, the Republic didn’t have the best intentions like we originally believed
@jbone9900
@jbone9900 Жыл бұрын
The battle of umbra showed the imperial nature of the republic.
@ozymandiasprometheus1926
@ozymandiasprometheus1926 Жыл бұрын
My favorite battle is Jabiim. The stakes were just so high.
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 3 ай бұрын
@@ozymandiasprometheus1926 Jabiim is great but my god the siege of salecuami tied up ALL the loose ends we needed with Auinlan Vos’ character and Dooku’s dark acolytes. Also it had seperatist clones which was really poetic
@darthmaul4773
@darthmaul4773 2 ай бұрын
@@clonetrooper2003My favorite one too.
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 2 ай бұрын
@@darthmaul4773 Thanks man! Yeah it was lit
@UGNAvalon
@UGNAvalon Жыл бұрын
Now THIS is how I always imagined the Clone Troopers to be: Brutally efficient in fulfilling the mission, no matter the cost, whether civilians’ lives or their own. It perfectly captures how these Troopers could go from ignoring fallen comrades in their first true combat engagement, to coldly gunning down their respected Jedi generals at the end of the war, even with years of experience supposedly softening their cold instincts. “Sorry, General. Orders are orders.” _Blam!_
@UGNAvalon
@UGNAvalon Жыл бұрын
The 3D Clone Wars series did a great job in “humanizing” the Troopers, but honestly, I think it went too far in that direction. It felt impossible for these friendly guys to become coldblooded killers that could turn on you in an instant, much less enforcers for a brutal totalitarian regime. These comics show that not-so-subtle indoctrination/mindset Much more clearly!
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 3 ай бұрын
Not to mention it lines up with ALL of the details that the 90s expanded universe novels hinted at. The Dreadnought class heavy cruisers and honoghr crisis from the thrawn trilogy? Seen in the republic comics for example
@mercury2157
@mercury2157 Жыл бұрын
I can actually see these versions of the Clones being voiced by Temuera Morrison rather than Dee Bradley Baker. Dee's take on the Clones doesn't have this sort of grit to it
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 Жыл бұрын
Oh, definitely.
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 3 ай бұрын
Yeah and also i can see this version of Anakin and obi wan actually voiced by ahyden christensen and ewan mcgregor best of all
@zebwhitt8056
@zebwhitt8056 Жыл бұрын
It amazes me how in truth rex is the only clone to see the darkness of the clone wars and ultimately stay in the light, while commander bly and alpha 17 embraced it.
@luisescalante2063
@luisescalante2063 Жыл бұрын
The Clone Wars is the best thing ever in SW, every depiction we’ve got just adds to the mighty legacy of the Clone Wars.
@ismaeljunior8624
@ismaeljunior8624 Жыл бұрын
Not only that, but the use of blasters completely fits the samurai thematic of star wars, we think about the samurais always using katanas, but they are actually just secondary weapons and to show off to others, the moment they put their hands in firearms and learned the value, they loved a lot and used to exhaustion.
@indianajones4321
@indianajones4321 Жыл бұрын
You mentioned the comic where Bly was the narrator. I highly recommend that you cover the battle of Honoghr where Bly and the 327th fight the Separatists and Noghri on Honoghr. It also has a big connection to the Thrawn trilogy and campaign after Endor.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 Жыл бұрын
Yes! I also recommend Armor too since the last few months! Same for the Evasive Action comics.
@OvSpP
@OvSpP Жыл бұрын
Jedi: *has a gun Star Wars fans: *shocked Kyle Katarn: Am I a joke to you?
@ThreadBareHope1234
@ThreadBareHope1234 Жыл бұрын
These are confusing times
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 Жыл бұрын
Confusing, but necessary for victory to become a reality.
@KaiHung-wv3ul
@KaiHung-wv3ul 11 ай бұрын
"How uncivilized."
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 Жыл бұрын
Star Wars Clone Wars 2003 was an underrated gem made by Genndy Tartakovsky, the man behind Samurai Jack
@paulsarnik8506
@paulsarnik8506 Жыл бұрын
Dexter's Lab too 🤷🏼‍♂️🤓😎✌🏻
@sammyfield5426
@sammyfield5426 Жыл бұрын
And primal
@toddkurzbard
@toddkurzbard Жыл бұрын
I HATED that show. The animation was sh*t, and, while the stories might have been good, I still can't get over SuperMace and his OP force powers and super-speed punches.
@BoSPaladin-102
@BoSPaladin-102 Жыл бұрын
@@toddkurzbard then that's your opinion, I also found Mace punching battle droids to be funny for the memes.
@KaiHung-wv3ul
@KaiHung-wv3ul 11 ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion, but I personally liked TCW more than that Clone Wars series. Better visuals, and with less outright ridiculous moments like the lancers stuff and Mace ripping droids to pieces with his bare hands, making them even less of a threat than they were in TCW. Definitely like the 2003 version of General Grievous better though.
@Jedi_Spartan_38
@Jedi_Spartan_38 Жыл бұрын
Well I got all 3 Clone Wars Omnibuses around Christmas 2019. Put together, they contain every Republic issue from 49 to the end of the run along with some extras like the Jedi mini series, the 4 issue Grevious comic and Obsession.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 Жыл бұрын
Lucky!
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 Жыл бұрын
There is a 9 volume Clone Wars completion series, I have had 7 of those for quite a while.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 Жыл бұрын
You talking about Clone Wars Adventures, Gokbay? If so, it's actually 10 volumes.
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelandreipalon359 Pretty sure I only saw 9 volumes in Wookipedia but you might be right and I could be mistaken. I probably am.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 Жыл бұрын
By all means, go ahead.
@zephyrfromzephex6618
@zephyrfromzephex6618 Жыл бұрын
Definitely prefer fanatic Droid like clones, they're trained since childhood to follow orders and nothing else matters, love the way this is shown in these old comics as well as the republic commando novels.
@inquisitorgarza312
@inquisitorgarza312 Жыл бұрын
The Clone Wars were a harsh reminder to the citizens of the Galaxy that War brings the best and the worst of people, and that there are those who will fight against others for their very belief and committed the worst war crimes in the history of the Galaxy.
@rmcgowa1987
@rmcgowa1987 Жыл бұрын
This might be something cool to turn into an adult's animated series so there in no censorship
@rcbmmines4579
@rcbmmines4579 Жыл бұрын
I grew up on TCW too but I went into a deep dive into the EU's Clone Wars Multimedia Project years ago, and as a comics fan, the Republic series was naturally my favorite part. John Ostrander and Hayden Blackmen wrote some of the greatest Star Wars comics ever, with really gritty and epic art by Jan Duursema and Brian Ching. Legends Quinlan Vos was awesome. Alpha-17 is better than Rex IMO. The Battle of Jabiim is my favorite Clone Wars battle in either canon for sure. Glad to see some love for it at last from a major Star Wars channel. Novels like Labyrinth of Evil and ROTS already get tons of love (and deservedly so) but the comics are definitely more obscure.
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 Жыл бұрын
I like both Rex and Alpha but they are definitly very different.
@rcbmmines4579
@rcbmmines4579 Жыл бұрын
@@gokbay3057 yeah that’s fair. I still like Rex. Alpha just has a lot more personality, and we actually see how he first works with Anakin and Obi-Wan, and how his friendship with them changed him. He doesn’t get much with other clones like Rex but he does train all the important named Commanders later on too.
@MrChewie1138
@MrChewie1138 Жыл бұрын
@@rcbmmines4579 wut, Alpha didn't change at all, nor did he have much personality lol.
@rcbmmines4579
@rcbmmines4579 Жыл бұрын
@@MrChewie1138 you could probably use a reread of the comics then friend. Alpha’s personality being distinct from other clones is an important point. He wasn’t afraid to get sarcastic with and criticize Jedi. Literally his first interaction with Anakin: “He’s rude for a clone” “And you’re complacent for someone who may be on the losing side of a battle”. As for his change, it’s his relationships with Anakin and Obi-Wan that lead to him having a name outside his designation, respecting the Jedi more and encouraging his trainees in the ARC commander program to also have names and think like ARCs.
@MrChewie1138
@MrChewie1138 Жыл бұрын
@@rcbmmines4579 Yes, but he was just like a copy of Jango in that, a cynical somewhat ruthless loner. While Rex was shown to go from by the book soldier at the beginning to gradually starting to question the point of the war.
@BitoyV3
@BitoyV3 Жыл бұрын
My first exposure to SW Republic was through 1 issue of the Jabiim arc that came in an action figure 2 pack of Alpha-17 and Obi-Wan. That's why I was hyped as all Hell for the Clone Wars movie, because in the initial trailers, I thought Rex was Alpha.
@simpleclonetrooper2740
@simpleclonetrooper2740 Жыл бұрын
I was reading issue 68 "Armor" last night seeing phase 1 markings on phase 2 armor is badass.
@garrisonjones1827
@garrisonjones1827 Жыл бұрын
if anything, the comic shows how much of a monster Palpatine truly was.
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 3 ай бұрын
Yeah he was hateable espcially in that one clone wars adventures spinoff comic where he had a whole group of commandos sacrificed to retrieve an importsnt item only for it be revealed that it was just a trinket he just allows to collect dust in his closet.
@indianajones4321
@indianajones4321 Жыл бұрын
Obi-wan: Jedi do not carry blasters Jedi with Gun: Hello there
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion Жыл бұрын
Some people will say that by not fightng is a sign of being a coward and let your enemies walked over you. But if the Clones Wars stated that fighting is not the right choice, then what is running away is? I know, I know. Palpatine designed it so he can become the ultimate victor of the war. But hey, the rest of the galaxy does not know that. So to them, there might be only just fight and win or fight and die to them.
@theoldhermit2601
@theoldhermit2601 Жыл бұрын
Yep, there was absolutely zero way to win for the others, the closest I can think of is if they either turned Dooku back to the light and killed Sidious before order 66 could happen, or if the jedi altogether left the war, and relocated to an isolated planet where nobody would find them (like Dagobah) Sure, they'd be considered traitors, but they'd at least survive
@ThreadBareHope1234
@ThreadBareHope1234 Жыл бұрын
I think this CW quote "In war, truth is the first casualty" perfectly sums up that war is started by people's refusal to see the vulnerable human on any side, the way *Jedi tend to* (seeing the symbiosis of all things except objective evil, teaming with mercenaries, etc). Altho I think the Separatists we're wrong in many more ways than the Republic and the Clone War could be called a just war, it sucks that it ever led to that Imo, Palpatine controlling both sides is a symbol of how sith like people (self centered) or our dark side (that can be menipulated) wants our eyes clouded with hate.
@BoSPaladin-102
@BoSPaladin-102 Жыл бұрын
I have had these Clone Wars comics since I was a kid, and many of them are still in good condition.
@twalls792
@twalls792 Жыл бұрын
The republic comics are just the fucking best🔥🔥
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 3 ай бұрын
Yeah especially if you read them right before labyrinth of evil
@lawrencetalbot8346
@lawrencetalbot8346 Жыл бұрын
I have all the comics. You used to be able to collect them in TPB and omnibuses. That is until Disney canceled the lore and shut down the EU (now known as Legends) production. If you can get your hands on a few, I recommend them. Stories are far more darker and grittier than anything the cartoons would ever show
@Nuetral768
@Nuetral768 Жыл бұрын
I think the 501st logs from battlefront 2 was pretty good for the same reasons... just the way the clones talk about each battle from the end of the republic to the start of the empire instills a consistent sense of pointless loss (one that if gameplay were taken as canon would suggest as well being that the unit's clones, the best of the best, were still dying left and right). No matter how hard they fought no matter how hard they tried there really was no end to the losses they would suffer until they would cease to be and nothing they did would ever be remembered... it was as if their deaths would mean more than their lives ever did or ever could. :(
@vitorpereira9515
@vitorpereira9515 Жыл бұрын
The republic comic series is far superior than the 2008 reboot.
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 3 ай бұрын
Virgin Battle Of Umbara and Siege Of Mandalore
@U_Jelly
@U_Jelly Жыл бұрын
This was much better than clone wars. The inhibitor chips didn’t make a whole lot of sense to me and how all the prominent main characters didn’t go through any trama from the war just didn’t make sense.
@james501001
@james501001 Жыл бұрын
The problem with the inhibitor chips isnt that they dont make sense (from a purely technical and practical standpoint they do), its that they are unecessary and hurt the narrative by removing any and all agency and culpability from the clones. Whitewashing the clones darker and more sinister qualities and trying to make them generic goody action heroes is a big mistake that TCW ended up making
@justjoking5841
@justjoking5841 Жыл бұрын
I always saw it as being similar to how some government agents get cyanide capsules AND micro bombs in their teeth or behind the eyes. Complete with some form of brainwashing and mind manipulation to boot. A huge number of countermeasures built in by the Kaminoans with Palpy's blessings. It is quite extraneous though...
@tristankawatsuma8962
@tristankawatsuma8962 Жыл бұрын
This can easily fixed by showing how the clones at the start of the war were filled with these negative qualities while the Jedi Order influenced them throughout the war. If the Clone Wars changed the galaxy, who says it couldn’t change the clone troopers? And in expanded Canon material, it implies the inhibitor chips wore off over time. Besides, it plays into the slavery narrative of the clone troopers. It’s just that Palpatine was more direct and controlling than the Republic was. When the chips wore off, those most loyal to the Empire stayed on training the stormtroopers and being part of special forces teams with few in the regular army. And like you said it makes sense from a technical and practical perspective. It’s like people think that only the war shaped the Jedi. Who says things couldn’t also work the other way around? Think of it like this. The Clone Wars made the Jedi go from light to grey. For the clones, they went from dark to grey. And when it comes to what happens in the story, it doesn’t even change much. The clones still kill the Jedi, the Empire is born, and Palpatine wins. Disney Canon just has a different view on how it happened. Different continuities are going to change things. Look at the two IDW Transformers continuities. The 2005 Continuity makes the Decepticons start out as mistreated workers trapped in a Caste Society who go too far in their attempts to change things by force. In the 2019 IDW Continuity, the Decepticons are a political party trying to bring Cybertron back to its age of expansion. The thing that stays the same is that the Decepticons rise up and go to war against the Autobots. It just changes why it happens.
@Jaerek
@Jaerek Жыл бұрын
@@james501001 Exactly. Though you could also make a case on how planting literal, physical evidence of your plan on billions of clones isn’t really the most brilliant move on Palpatine’s part 😭 like if it’s something you can find via a basic scan and remove in a quick 1-minute surgery, wouldn’t any medic looking at a clone with head trauma notice it?
@fdjtron1732
@fdjtron1732 Жыл бұрын
Oh yes, Republic, my favorite comic book series, which deserves much more recognition. Also, "Jedi" comics directly related to the Republic deserved to be mentioned in this video.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 Жыл бұрын
Same for Jedi Council: Acts of War, General Grievous, Clone Wars Adventures, Obsession, Dark Times, and Purge.
@fdjtron1732
@fdjtron1732 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelandreipalon359 yep
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 3 ай бұрын
Clone wars adventures was goated. The third volume was peak ngl@@michaelandreipalon359
@Shaungt4
@Shaungt4 Жыл бұрын
The republic comics are so good fr
@eyepatchpirate7726
@eyepatchpirate7726 Жыл бұрын
Hehe well I grew up with Star Wars: Republic! It was *very* dark and mature. Jabiim was definitely one of the best arcs, but I also really liked everything with Quinlan Vos and absolutely loved the final issues. The separatist clone army on Saleucami was a big suprise! But one of my favourites is nr. 50, when we see the ARC troopers and Alpha for the first time. We also shouldn't underestimate of Jan Duursema's art in shaping this darker perspective of the Clone Wars.
@bruhnisher5454
@bruhnisher5454 Жыл бұрын
The Dark Horse comics are the best ones, not just for star wars.
@starkilr101
@starkilr101 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t read most of the republic stories, but I do have a very good general grievous issue where he captures a band of Jedi younglings. Great story and shows why grievous is such a great villain
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 Жыл бұрын
Ah, the miniseries simply known as General Grievous. Underrated too.
@noahchiaravallotti6510
@noahchiaravallotti6510 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually reading through this line again! I am in the personal opinion of appreciating these comics more than the show we all grew to love. One such reason for that is the battle of Jabiim story arc. It is by far and away my favorite Clone Wars story, canon or legends, and personally resides inside my own head canon. Aayla Secura's story is also a stand out, and I'm now even MORE sad when she's purged. All in all, worth hunting down if you are a Star Wars fan.
@anarchistarts725
@anarchistarts725 Жыл бұрын
I had a few issues of this series when I was a kid! It followed Vos and his ragtag band and it was so exciting and heartbreaking. Even though Vos isn't the best character from that era by a long shot, or the most powerful, but he was still my fave during the clone wars. His interactions with his master were so poignant, and I absolutely adored them. Definitely rereading the entire series again.
@waryace2
@waryace2 Жыл бұрын
Voss is just built different.
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 3 ай бұрын
Yeah he is such a Good character in the comics
@Agent_A_Graham
@Agent_A_Graham Жыл бұрын
2003 TCW showed the clones' efficiency and skill far better than the other show. Their tactics were cool and intimidating in 2003 TCW. I could actually believe these clones were trained by Mandalorians and Jango. [Edit: Typo]
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 Жыл бұрын
Yep, 10 years of training since damn near their birth, which they were even biologically altered for in the first place. You'd think we'd see more epic Clone feats overall
@whoami4352
@whoami4352 Жыл бұрын
The 2003 series is trash lmao stfu you legends fans are so annoying. 2008 series is far better. The older one looks so kiddy and bad everything all around. Clones actually felt like soldiers as they should during the good version of the clone wars.
@Agent_A_Graham
@Agent_A_Graham Жыл бұрын
@@thalmoragent9344 Yeah, man. Watching 2008 show, I never felt like the Clones were deadly. I understand, of course, the great aspect of 2008 TCW show having clones humanized more, but a lot was left out of what clones were supposed to be. They also kind of talked way too much in the 2008 TCW, tbh. And screamed too much and got owned too much too. And they never tried to animate them taking cover. I think the animators forgot that clones aren't unlimited and it feels like waste seeing these guys get clapped just for visual appeal. I see 2003 TCW, and I feel the elite tactics of the ARCs on display. They use signs instead of excessive talking as well. And they are also very stoic, another aspect I wished I saw more with clones. It also made Grievous even scarier knowing how he could take out these soldiers, and seeing ARCs standing off with Grievous had so much tension because of how elite these two opponents were.
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 Жыл бұрын
@@Agent_A_Graham I wouldn't mind some of our Clones in 2008 speaking as much as they did but yeah, seeing more silent, hand sign usage for communication would've been cool too. Still love 2008 but yeah, I agree with most everything else you said
@CameronKiesser
@CameronKiesser Жыл бұрын
@@Agent_A_Graham Soldiers using sign language or signals during stealth missions makes a lot of sense.
@tristankawatsuma8962
@tristankawatsuma8962 Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if neutrality for the Jedi in this case really works either. They can go down three paths with this choice. Either they act as peacekeepers, stay out of the conflict entirely, or investigate into both armies. The first option works to an extent, but I still argue that if it wasn’t for the Jedi being generals, the clones would be far more brutal than they ever were in the war. The officers would have seen to that. The Jedi likely would have had many fall to the Dark Side anyway since I doubt either side would respect the Jedi peacekeepers, seeing them as cowards not getting involved on their rightful side. At least Dooku and Palpatine would push such narratives. They would just end up being targeted long before Order 66. Like if they served on either side of the war, many planets and people would respect and praise them while many others would see them as traitors to what they were meant for. Not much change in my opinion. Now for the option of staying out of the war. For the Jedi themselves, I would have to say this is the best option. They could make secret temples across the galaxy as they use this time to find their way and could go underground when Order 66 happens. The reason for these new temples though would be because they likely get kicked off Coruscant due to Palpatine making it look like the Jedi don’t care about the galaxy. This route only benefits the Jedi in the short run. While many will be happy when they return from exile to fight the Empire, many others would see them as cold-hearted for “abandoning” them. There may even be those who think they say back just waiting for the Clone Wars to weaken the Republic, waiting for the right time to strike and take power. As for the final route, that also runs into problems. Since they aren’t part of the Republic military, they lack access to a number of areas they used to investigate stuff in the Republic back in our timeline. They would basically be starting from scratch. And all Palpatine would have to do long before the end of the war is expose the Jedi sneaking around to make them look like Separatist spies, even though Dooku will be doing the exact same thing on his end. Again, early Jedi Purge. Like it or not, at least having some Jedi be involved in the military had some upsides. They can access info they can’t get as civilians, they can directly influence military policy, and maintain their public image. Though that last part would have worked better if they only had some Jedi become generals while the rest formed some separate organization independent of the military. That probably would have worked better than just making every Jedi a general or commander. I really feel that it’s wrong to say that the galaxy lost to the Sith as soon as the Clone Wars began. It’s a dark period to be sure, but it implies Palpatine’s plan was really foolproof. And it’s a little hard to believe such a long spanning plan couldn’t have dangerous flaws within it. Yes, many planets are going to get wrecked and trust in the Republic and Separatists is going to be at an all-time low. The former is going to have mass secession while the latter may just dissolve without Dooku around to keep them united. Still, I think it’s wrong to say it was game over as soon as the Clone Wars began. While many Jedi fall into the dark side and others come very close, they still believed in the principles of the Republic and tried to maintain these principles through the war. They failed on a number of these principles, but not on all of them. And if only one good thing about the Jedi involvement in the GAR came of it, it was their influence on the clones which even the Republic comics touch on. In fact I feel this part of the Clone Wars barely gets touched upon. We see Jedi and Clones being friendly or at least working together and see clone troopers with their own hairstyles and patterns on their armor, but we never really see how all this happened. We kind of just take it for granted. Even in the darkest versions of the Clone Wars, the Jedi are honestly the best things to ever happen to the clone troopers. The Jedi were basically the only thing keeping them from being exactly like stormtroopers. While the two soldiers are similar, there were a few key differences. While this certainly noted how perfect as Palpatine’s soldiers they were upon completing their training, it also shows that nothing works perfectly out in the field. After seeing the affect of the Jedi on the clones, imagine if they somehow were leading stormtroopers. A lot of the things we saw with the clones would probably be far more prominent among regular humans. Yes, this is an optimistic view on the Clone Wars, I know that. But that’s kind of what Star Wars is. Hope and optimism in the galaxy’s darkest hours. If you think about it, the era of the Galactic Civil War would be far darker than the Clone Wars. At least if the Republic or Separatists lost in the eyes of the people, they would just lose a galactic government and have to hope the alternative doesn’t fall apart. In the case of the Galactic Civil War, if the Rebel Alliance loses it’s basically the bitter end. It would take decades for another rebel organization on a galactic level to be formed, one strong enough to take on the Empire. And life under Imperial rule sure wouldn’t get better. There wouldn’t even be a successor who thinks to make things slightly better because Palpatine was trying to figure out how to be immortal. No successor planned at all. As imperfect as the Republic and Separatists are, they at least are democracies. Imperfect ones to be sure, but eventually either side would backtrack the military spending. It would take years, maybe even a decade. Still, you can’t pour money into a military for a democracy without an enemy to fear. Now if they agreed to a peace deal, then a Cold War would begin and that certainly would make both sides hold onto a military. But if one side wiped out the other, then eventually they have to decrease the military because there is no enemy. The Empire got around this by making the military symbolic of expanding civilization. Senators in both the Republic and Separatists, while low in power, still had a little to wield. In the Empire, they basically had nothing at all. So technically, wouldn’t you say the Original Trilogy Era was darker than the Prequel Trilogy Era. Higher stakes for the galaxy.
@NewYorkLover22
@NewYorkLover22 Жыл бұрын
Damn, that was a nixe read. But can you break it into paragraphs to make it easier to read? Thanks.
@tristankawatsuma8962
@tristankawatsuma8962 Жыл бұрын
@@NewYorkLover22 Sorry.
@twalls792
@twalls792 Жыл бұрын
What the clone wars tv show did do quinlon vos is disgraceful
@darthmaul4773
@darthmaul4773 4 ай бұрын
Yeah he sucks in that.
@RoboticPope
@RoboticPope 3 ай бұрын
Vos in TCW tv series reminds me of the fake "Devaronian Version" of Quinlan from the dark horse comics (just a few issues before the name change to Star Wars :Republic). In that story Quinlan is a drunk, only pretending to be a jedi. He is shown breifly being a total idiot, shouting woo constantly, saying "feel the force ladies", and making a humming noise with his voice while using his stolen lightsabre. He finally got shot because he wanted to prove that he could actually use the force to deflect blaster bolts. It is almost like Filnoi saw that comic and copied that fake Quinlan's personality.
@ObiClon
@ObiClon Жыл бұрын
Heard so much about this series. I think it is time to finally give it a read.
@coolguy95x76
@coolguy95x76 Жыл бұрын
The dark horse comics are so goated
@Sephiroth144
@Sephiroth144 Жыл бұрын
I tend to look at it as a three views of the same war; the DH comics (and the novels written then) were the "factual" events, the 2003 series was the propaganda created by pro-Republic sympathizers some time after the New Order began, while the 2008 series was the war as recorded by the Republic for public consumption, (like war documentaries you'd get from Chandrilla or Alderaan). Gets a little dicey when elements like Ahsoka come into play, but a little stretching and it can work.
@nickvinsable3798
@nickvinsable3798 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I believe we needed to see both the bright side & dark side of that specific time frame…
@123hskk
@123hskk Жыл бұрын
I remember an ARC Trooper being sold with a comic of this run.
@OvSpP
@OvSpP Жыл бұрын
I think I’m gonna read this now, but I’ll start from the beginning.
@marshalllatta2073
@marshalllatta2073 Жыл бұрын
Star wars the clone wars is one of the best fantastic show's made
@alswearengine4867
@alswearengine4867 4 ай бұрын
This series rules! Got the whole series off eBay back in ‘09. Worth every penny.
@frostburn3736
@frostburn3736 Жыл бұрын
_There are no wise wars, only foolish people whose wage them._
@tristankawatsuma8962
@tristankawatsuma8962 Жыл бұрын
Then what do you call the Galactic Civil War?
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 3 ай бұрын
@@tristankawatsuma8962 one that could have been avoided if not for the FOOLISH empire
@tristankawatsuma8962
@tristankawatsuma8962 3 ай бұрын
@@clonetrooper2003 The quote seems to say that all sides who fight in wars are fools.
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 3 ай бұрын
@@tristankawatsuma8962 figures.
@samwilson2250
@samwilson2250 Жыл бұрын
Definitely need to try and take a look into getting this comic line now. Legends material is so much more expansive than what we have now in canon... It's honestly kind of depressing, so many great stories and characters like vos, the null arcs, skirata, alpha just tucked away into legends when they deserve the spotlight they do.
@MatthewChenault
@MatthewChenault Жыл бұрын
Dark Horse Comics? You mean Chad Horse Comics?
@trapperjohn6089
@trapperjohn6089 Жыл бұрын
I grew up on droids and the Ewoks. P.s. Han shot first.
@richardcastillos2896
@richardcastillos2896 Жыл бұрын
I really loved the Republic cómic series. The battle of Jabiim was my favorite and I would love to see something similar in animation or live action(because it was a really good story but I dont see it happening)
@zexalbrony4799
@zexalbrony4799 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for the long comment, but I'm very passionate about Star Wars and the Clone Wars in general so I have a lot to say. Now take what I'm about to say with a grain of salt, given the kind of fan I am. I have never fully read the Republic series, I'm not really a comic reader in general, and there are very few that get me interested enough to read them, even for some of my most favorite franchises like Star Wars. However, I do know of many of these great tales because of great KZfaqrs like you Geetsly(the best Star Wars KZfaqr ever) whose videos explain them in their greatness, and I myself have looked up several of these stories on the Star Wars Wookieepedia, I have read the bios of many of these great characters and battles, one of my personal favorites is the story of Dass Jennier. So I can say that these stories from what I've seen and heard are great stories and I personally wish some elements of them made their way into the new canon, and have even done stuff like that by making fanfic New Canon versions of some of these battles which combined elements of Legends, the New Canon, and some of my own personal ideas together. However, despite that, I think the 2008 Clone Wars series is still a better take on the Clone Wars itself and how they are depicted. You see, in the first two seasons things are mostly okay, the war starts out mostly clean. Sure there are still many Clones and other people who die, but overall, those we consider the good guys the likes of Obi-Wan, Anakin, Ahsoka, Rex, Cody, Plo Koon, and so on do mostly win and save many people's lives, albeit at a cost given the troops they lose, but still they save as many as they can and it mostly balances out at this point, and I'd consider the war going well for the Republic. And we don't really lose too many important characters in these first two seasons, the only ones coming to mind right now are Hevy and Nadar Also, most people don't die too brutally, there are a few here and there, but most of the characters who die just get shot or stab, painful yes, but nowhere near as bad as some of the more brutal deaths, which are few and far between in these first two seasons. The light of the Jedi is still strong during these two seasons and is very much helping people and beacon of hope for the galaxy. But then, the war starts dragging on, and in seasons 3 and 4, it starts to get darker. Dark elements start taking center stage more, we see stuff like the clones killing each other on Umbara, a Jedi fall to the Dark Side(Krell), we see more darker things like the horrible slavery they Zygerrian's cause, Savage forced to kill his own brother, even our heroes doing bad things like Obi-Wan faking his death and not telling Anakin for the sake of a mission. And the war gets a lot more brutal, especially with how people die, a Clone gets cut in half by a closing door in the Citadel, Jedi Master Peil gets mauled to death by an Anubis in the same arc, Riff Tampson killing people by biting them or blowing them up with exploding knives, the brutal way Clones die against the Umbara's and their tech, the Nightsisters are masquerade and crushed by Grevious, even the amount of innocent civilians we see killed gets large with Maul's return. And more characters with names start to die, 99, King Kutuko of Tyodaria, Echo is presumed dead and until Season 7 both the characters and the audience think he is so were all sad about that, we then lose Peil like I said earlier, Hardcase and Waxxer die, Ventress loses her people which is pretty dark. Things are slowly starting to get worse as the war drags on, the longer it goes, the more scars, taint, and damage it inflicts on everyone. The Light of the Jedi, while still present here in some stories, how they get relief supplies to Ryloth, saving Mon Cala and helping to partially reunite the Mon Cala and Quaren, the Jedi and Clones saving the Togura people from the Zygerrians, is slowly starting to get dimmer and harder to see, as the Darkness grows the longer the war rages on. Then the last three seasons, as the war nears its end, things continued to get worse. More brutality, more causalities, and more darkness which grows even greater than before. More tragedy strikes, Ahsoka leaves, more great characters die like Stela, Satime, Fives, Thorn, Jesse and so on, Palpatine takes control of the banks to fund his coming Empire, Barris falls to the Dark Side, and Mandalore suffers greatly. Even villains are not immune to suffering because of this war, Maul loses Savage and Mother Talzin in the comics and you see how genuinely sad he is over this loss, showing despite being evil he did care for them as his only family and now there gone. Victories are coming at greater prices and sometimes we are losing even more than before. The Light of the Jedi is still around, we see it with fun and happy moments like the Droid arc from season 5(One of my personal favorites), the Padawan arc and how great that turned out not just for the Padawans but also Hondo showing even he has a kind of noble side and isn't all bad, the Republic still gets some good moments like winning the Battle of Anaxes and getting Echo back, and so on. However, unlike back in seasons 1 and 2 where these moments outweighed the dark ones, now it's either more even or the darkness now is greater than the light moments, and the darkness is coming close to eclipsing the light, which by the end of the war it does of course. So through the seven seasons of the Clone Wars we see how over time the war slowly erodes and corrupts many things, the Light so prevalent at the very start of the series by the end has now been eclipsed by the Darkness. Showing us that by the end of the war, everyone has been tainted and scared at least a little bit by it, even those that were able to mostly stick to their morals and principles by the end of the war like Obi-Wan, Ashoka, Rex, and several others still suffered greatly and had big scars at the end of the war because of all those they lost. Those that had small scars and taint could be healed with just a little time, but for many, they had much worse taint and scars that took longer to heal, and for some, the scaring and taint was so bad it could never heal or if it could it would take a very long time, Anakin is an example of this last one. I still argue that fighting in the war at the start was a good thing, as the Jedi and Clones saved many people's lives, but another important message is that war is hell and the longer it goes on the worse it starts to affect everyone, some can try their best to stick to their guns and still do good, but they still have to end it quickly so it doesn't get worse, but they must also be careful that the desire to end the war doesn't force them to become monsters and weakens them because to paraphrase Ezra Bridger during the war Jedi, Clones, Droids, and others all killed each other, and when they were all weak enough, Palpatine and his Empire swooped in and finished most of them off and took over. War is complicated, while fighting can be good, one must also know when to stop fighting and start talking with their foes, and also one must know that it's just that you fight its how you fight choose to be better, and more merciful in combat then your foes. These are ultimately the lessons that I think the Clone Wars teaches us, and by learning from them there is hope for the Galaxy, it's very small at the start of the Empire, but it's there in the form of the survivors like Rex and the Bad Batch(minus Crosshair) who are still fighting for what's right and opposing the Empire helping what little bits of the good Republic still remains, it's there in the form of all those inspired by the Jedi and Clones, and even the good Sepatists that saved them during the war like with the people of Ryloth to keep fighting to protect themselves, there home, and their galaxy of the terriony and evil their savors tried so hard to get rid of, and it's there in many other places too.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 Жыл бұрын
You weren't kidding when you said this is long. I'll just give you advice on time... don't hurry up if you want to read the comics and the novels from the pre-TCW era and as you've said, Geetsly's and others are doing you a lot of favors with their takes.
@zexalbrony4799
@zexalbrony4799 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelandreipalon359 What can I say, I like to hear myself talk. LOL. And yes, Geetsly and a few others are doing a lot of favors with their great videos explaining this stuff for those of us not in the know. Heck, I've looked up stuff on the Wookipedia because of their videos to see if there was more to the event than what they were saying, like the Battle of Bal'demnic.
@Jaerek
@Jaerek Жыл бұрын
@@zexalbrony4799 I fail to see why you put so much effort in this when you clearly said you haven't experienced the object of your comparison. Of course the thing you actually experienced will feel better- if I had read just a wiki summary of the Battle of Umbara, it would've seemed like an extremely silly logistical mess and I could've said Dark Horse is better in that regard. But the main thing I see ad infinitum when it comes to TCW is a defense based on how edgy it is. "This person gets decapitated, this guy gets blown up, these people get massacred" etc- that's not what makes either of these series compelling. Star Wars: Republic is more "mature" because it approaches the subject matter with more subtlety, has a wider array of layers to its characters and the way their arcs are interwoven, and the overall tone is consistently grounded. It doesn't make you sit through silly adventures of little astromech droids before throwing you into a battlefield the next arc. It doesn't bring back a villain from the dead and have them monologue to the hero exactly how they managed to keep alive-TCW has a *lot* of telling instead of showing, because its target demographic is a lot younger and less invested-or joke villains who get defeated and put up their four arms in the air yelling "You will never defeat Grievous! Never!!" to a flying gunship. To put things in perspective, imagine if some Marvel fan wrote "I never watched any Martin Scorsese films, but I read their plot summaries and this Marvel movie has [dark element] and so it is better".
@zexalbrony4799
@zexalbrony4799 Жыл бұрын
@@Jaerek Okay, I might have miss spoken, but I was not saying that TCW is good because of how edgy it is. In fact, if I'm being honest, the edginess like that Clone getting cut in half by a closing door aways made me a little quaise, even now to some degree. I was saying how despite not liking it the edginess and brutality of later seasons serve a purpose in the overall message the Clone Wars conveys and is necessary because as Geetsly has said many times when talking about the Clone Wars, "War is hell." So they have to show some of the darker elements and brutality to convey that, but also show how as the war drags on its slowly getting worse for everyone and the brutality is a part of that like I said back in the first two seasons during the start of the war this stuff was rare, but as the war dragged on things got worse, people got more desperate, and all hell was slowly starting to break loose, thus all that edginess and brutality of war only see rarely back in the first two seasons is now seen a lot more often in the later seasons as the war drags on. Which again is the overall message the Clone Wars teaches us that I was talking about that makes that series so good to me. Also, " It doesn't make you sit through silly adventures of little astromech droids before throwing you into a battlefield the next arc." I feel even the Droids arc serves a decent purpose, as there are many parts of war, not just the big battles but spy missions, infiltrations, rescue missions, negotiating to use supply routes, debates over how much to spend on new equipment, and just how regular people and troopers deal with all the stress and issues of the war during breaks between the action. The Droids arc is some much need levity and relief from the intense battles so it's not all serious and depressing all the time to allow people in and out of universe time to catch their breaths and recover before jumping right into the next hard arc and battle. And it also serves to show that things aren't all bad there is still some light-heartedness and humor, and the Light of the Jedi hasn't completely been eclipsed during these dark times, and those little bits of light are going to be needed by many during the starting time of the Empire to allow them to survive and endure until more people start coming to help and resist the Empire.
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I prefer the clone wars 2008 version too
@LexusLFA554
@LexusLFA554 Жыл бұрын
A friend has asked me if you could do a video on planets that were uninhabitated from both the Alliance and Imperium (basically free to do whatever they want) around the time of both Death Stars and the galactic war between both forces (timespan of Lukes and Leias birth to Vaders Death). My friend has searched up german content and asked several creators to make this video, but such a video does not exist and has not been created. Don't worry, the translation will be my (fun) part then :)
@elece1124
@elece1124 Жыл бұрын
Hutt territories, Ssi Ruvi imperium (space dinos), and most importantly the Hapan Consortium and Corporate Sector Authorities territories were mostly independent.
@bobaklan7436
@bobaklan7436 Жыл бұрын
We should start a petition to canonize the Star Wars Republic comics, they’re the best star wars media to visually incapculate the brutality of the CW…
@tristankawatsuma8962
@tristankawatsuma8962 Жыл бұрын
That sounds unnecessary. The latest Kenobi comic basically shows the narrative of the Republic Comics. The 212th is deployed to destroy a Separatist facility and they team up with a unit of volunteers from the planet Roon. They have to fight their way through battle droids and organic soldiers, suffer heavy casualties, and even have to call an orbital bombardment on wounded soldiers left behind to stop the enemy from chasing them. Disney Canon isn’t completely kid-friendly. They did write Rogue One, remember? The difference between Disney Canon and Legends Canon is that the darker stories are less common. Disney Canon is still far younger than Legends Canon. By the time it reaches the same age as Legends Canon was when it was ended, Disney Canon may be just as rich as Legends Canon by that point. Honestly, I think both Canons get it the same with their coverage on politics in the Prequel Era. We see senators advocate for further militarization, giving more powers to Palpatine out of fear, and at first having little issue with the Republic becoming an Empire. We see in Dark Disciples how the Jedi basically make Vos do the same thing that happens in the Republic comic series. In a way, recanonizing Legends material is kind of lazy. Disney Canon is a new continuity. Let new writers write their own perspectives of the Star Wars Galaxy.
@bobaklan7436
@bobaklan7436 Жыл бұрын
@@tristankawatsuma8962 oh…right nevermind
@tristankawatsuma8962
@tristankawatsuma8962 Жыл бұрын
To be partially fair, adding details from Legends into Canon material works sometimes. Heck, the movies and the Clone Wars were basically Legends until Disney Canon was formed. Just because Disney Canon shouldn’t just be a copy of Legends Canon doesn’t mean we have to reject key details from Legends stories.
@arkhamftw6186
@arkhamftw6186 Жыл бұрын
Finally a big Star Wars channel gives the Republic comic some love.
@serranovictor20
@serranovictor20 Жыл бұрын
Such a great comic book series I remember finding this on my iPad by chance in high school when I read the first issue got hooked on it right away
@crazyguy1mania537
@crazyguy1mania537 6 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved this series, it gave such a authentic feeling of despair and the horror of the clone wars
@keeganheywood4367
@keeganheywood4367 Жыл бұрын
I remember reading these from my local library as a kid, the dead gungans messed me up and it was also my first introduction to durge
@michielkudova3887
@michielkudova3887 Жыл бұрын
Now that we’ve had Obi-Wan get his own show, Quinlan Vos should get one too. It’ll really make up for the fact that this comic is no longer canon
@ulty1472
@ulty1472 9 ай бұрын
Sadly i doubt that.
@emptycloud8669
@emptycloud8669 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, incredibly exciting.
@ruffleraveninc3602
@ruffleraveninc3602 Жыл бұрын
I used to get these comics from my local library as a kid, and I absolutely loved them (though I was definitely way too young to be reading them).
@timothyhayes9724
@timothyhayes9724 Жыл бұрын
This series was the Clone Wars to me. Glad to see you covering it and I'm excited for Dark Horse to get the license back but I worry Disney won't allow this dark gritty story telling with gray characters and difficult moral choices again
@skyvolt2566
@skyvolt2566 Жыл бұрын
I'm happy to be among the few that actually read these comics. Their one of my favorite comic series bc of how dark they got and showed the real reality behind the clone wars
@walkerlamebrain
@walkerlamebrain Жыл бұрын
OMG I love this ESPECIALLY bcoz it covers Quinlan Vos' story. I've always been curious about his character since I first saw him in The Clone Wars. Please share more videos/information about QV, I won't be the only fan grateful👍👍👍
@toddkurzbard
@toddkurzbard Жыл бұрын
Not EVERYBODY lost due to the Clone Wars. The SITH won.
@clonetrooper2003
@clonetrooper2003 3 ай бұрын
Unless you consider the fact that palpatine was originally going to help the galaxy but forgot and just became power hungry
@sean668
@sean668 Жыл бұрын
In retrospect I think I prefer the clones as purely pragmatic and almost morally bankrupt. In the 2008 series there were only a few clones like this: Dogma comes to mind, and he was portrayed as kind of a weirdo compared to the other clones. I enjoy the 2008 Clone Wars immensely and it couldn’t have happened with the older tunnel-visioned clones, but I prefer the atmosphere their cynical perspectives sets. It’s almost foreboding, like you can tell this whole war is a terrible mistake
@MrChewie1138
@MrChewie1138 Жыл бұрын
Fox also, and Crosshair
@loganblack6572
@loganblack6572 Жыл бұрын
War changes you for better or worse
@Scylla_Charybdis
@Scylla_Charybdis Жыл бұрын
Republic worked because it saw the best way to make a gritty story actually impactful; by portraying the vast majority of people caught up in said story as human, with all the ups and downs that come with it. Zealous hatred, love of family and comrades, and fear of death are all things Republic's galaxy deal with. Too many dark settings like ASOI&F, Warhammer, Attack on Titan and plenty others substitute horrendous violence and over-the-top awfulness for sound storytelling and character development. The reason why the scene those clones threatening to carpet bomb the Wookie village hits so hard is *because* the majority of clones have been soldiers up to that point, not out-and-out killers (even if they had been a little too zealous before then). On a less "philosophical" level Republic showed that Star Wars could be a very mature setting even while space-knights dueled with swords of light, and it was a damn near perfect war story for showing us not only how the war developed but also how the people trapped in it grew.
@savagedarksider5934
@savagedarksider5934 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the 2003 Clone Wars over the 2008 Clone Wars.
@alwaysplotting2096
@alwaysplotting2096 Жыл бұрын
Palpatine reading Star Wars: Republic: HEHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Imperial Guard: He really enjoys historical non-fiction.
@jawafreak230
@jawafreak230 Жыл бұрын
I bought the last issue, volume 9 of the clone wars arc, over 10 years ago. It is one of my most prized literary possessions.
@Cammino3
@Cammino3 Жыл бұрын
I loved this series
@MichaelCasanovaMusic
@MichaelCasanovaMusic Жыл бұрын
I grew up with these comics. They were great.
@sirnukealot84
@sirnukealot84 Жыл бұрын
man I would love a rogue one style stars wars show. more gritty and hardcore than anything seen before.
@truckstop4873
@truckstop4873 Жыл бұрын
The clone wars commandos novels are very gritty also. They read like real war stories. I have a tote full of all these books, and comics. Think I need to dig it out, and read them again.
@DarkRider117
@DarkRider117 Жыл бұрын
Damn this is the kind of clone wars show I’d love to see
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 Жыл бұрын
Smiling, because the Clone Wars Multimedia Project of yore is getting more appreciation than originally known. And the best part, in case you guys at Geetsly's are fearing for the running out of material to check on, then this treasure trove is gonna be all too worthwhile, among many others (like the Manning/Williamson and Goodwin newspaper comics strips and the Legends compatible Marvel 1977 comics, like the Beilert Valance arc, the Tarkin superweapon arc, and the 86th issue which connects itself well with Jedi Council: Acts of War and the Crimson Empire trilogy).
@lordwarlockthangwrath8662
@lordwarlockthangwrath8662 Жыл бұрын
When Star wars and All quiet on the western front mets.
@goldeagle6431
@goldeagle6431 Жыл бұрын
The Senate is anything but casual.
@ArtAngelDesign
@ArtAngelDesign Жыл бұрын
Grew up with clone wars…man I feel old…nice tip of great literature tho💯so ty
@angelusumbrae
@angelusumbrae Жыл бұрын
I love how that one clone commando was talking sh¡t, then when the Padawan said he was still using his coms and they were all hearing it, he said he knew. 😆
@jmospastriepies9177
@jmospastriepies9177 Жыл бұрын
Hoping for more videos about this comic line!
@MrGA555
@MrGA555 Жыл бұрын
Honestly this is great. And would have been a great segue for Palpatine obtaining dark side users from Padwans who were changed from the war
@wor575
@wor575 Жыл бұрын
Voss with a blaster goes harder than he already does
@zachduperron8543
@zachduperron8543 Жыл бұрын
My adventures of Hody series aims to be like this, the 442nd siege battalion being mercilessly, destroying all droids and organic separatist conscripts while on a bloody campaign to destroy an evil droid leader and taking a resource rich planet.
@michasalamon8315
@michasalamon8315 Жыл бұрын
I Remember going to show once a week to buy new issue. Damn I feel old.
@FeuerDrache0702
@FeuerDrache0702 5 ай бұрын
Someone should make this into a tv series or even a videogame
@prtfdc2
@prtfdc2 Жыл бұрын
For anyone looking to read Star Wars: Republic look up Star Wars (1998) after Issue 45 the comic Republic was added to the name
@LelandMGrayer
@LelandMGrayer Жыл бұрын
That's why I Love Jedi Fallen Order. And Can't Wait Until Fallen Order Survivor. With This Holocron Of Information And Kenobi Series Cal Kestis Story Continuing Will Be Something Very Interesting To Experience. Blaster With Ligjtsaber I Can't Wait!!!!!
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka Жыл бұрын
I love the clone wars it’s really awesome
@jedinathan
@jedinathan Жыл бұрын
Man my childhood brought back in both the form of nostalgia and pain, pretty much the heart of my Star Wars experience was shaped by the Republic series I was sad when it ended, sad when its sequel Dark Times was discontinued as it was becoming even darker then Republic, mad as hell when Disney DE-canonized and Dark Disciple has earned my everlasting hatred for ruining both Ventress and Quinlan Vos oh and casually writing Tholme of as dead, along with having a plot that was VERY stupid and Ventress dying from Dooku's force lightning serious bull shit considering how many times in so many other stories she is blasted by his force lightning as a punishment and survives. Stopped watching the video half-way the Jabiim arc hurts WAY too much, I spent an hour crying after reading that as a kid, man if people thought TCW could get dark at times trust me Republic is much darker and it breaks you down, and it made Order 66 hurt so much more watching the characters who had survived the brutality of the events in comics get mostly gun downed by their commanders, and Dark Times rubbed salt in the wounds by thinning that number out more. If anything, the events in these comics make me HATE Palpatine I don't understand the fans that like the guy if someone legitimately likes him as a person and thinks he was in the right then they are very likely a danger to normal people. But yeah, solid video, even if I only watched half of it before it became too painful emotionally to watch. Speaking of I'd like to see videos on the stories in issues 1-45 I only started collecting the Republic series after watching Attack of the Clones and falling in love with the franchise so that's an area of lore that I don't really know much about. And of course, a Dark Times video is needed. A serious video no a series of videos like with the history of the Republic that needs to be made however is an exact timeline of the Clone Wars EU version as the timeline has always been well a contradictory mess that is very hard to make sense of at times and has led to no shortage of debate in the fanbase and that is what is the exact timeline of events in the Clone Wars from start to finish, because one thing that has always managed to be a problem with the Clone Wars in terms of timelines is that it was a multimedia project spanning functionally from 2002 to 2012 with differant teams of creators making their own stories at the same time as others with the same characters and I personally lump the Disney made last season in as part of the TCW canon for consistencies sake and since Season 6 actually is canon in both continuities due to it being released before Disney killed the EU also for a solid example of timeline problems are like three separate versions of what exactly Anakin and Obi-Wan were doing before the start Revenge of the Sith, Labyrinth of Evil had them on some remote world fighting Dooku before he escape, the 2003 series had them on Nelvaan, and TCW's original planned ending that I'd consider canon regardless of continuity because that was the original intended ending was the Siege of Mandalore arc so you had have Obi-Wan and Anakin be in three separate places at once which is impossible and there are other occasion for it happening and that is why EU's timeline for the Clone Wars is a mess it has too many people telling stories with the same characters that they've never been able to completely line up, the comics dispute with the novels, the cartoons contridict both and well it makes my head spin on what to consider canon in regards to the timeline which when I've got a fanfic planned set in the Clone Wars I wanted my story to take everything I loved growing up and it really is annoying when it can really controdict things. So a video series that sorts things and makes sense of everything so that it lines up continuity wise would be nice to see on the channel I don't think many of us are sure on the timeline of events going on during the Clone Wars part of me thinks it may as well be 5 years rather then three in length and even that would still have some issues.
@jackieanderson9408
@jackieanderson9408 Жыл бұрын
Sweet 👍
@ZontarDow
@ZontarDow Жыл бұрын
"This is because Lucas wanted him to" On the contrary, there was alpha footage made of him being executed by his men in Order 66 that was cut for time and money reasons rather then because Lucas cared for him living.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 Жыл бұрын
Wait, where is that? Edit: Ah, nevermind, you actually were referring to the deleted scenes... by the way, there's also Barriss Offee's death (take notes that the Clone Wars Multimedia Project and the movies never thought of her as a traitor until TCW 2008 came along), which was then reused in the RotS comic adaptation and Evasive Action: Reversal of Fortune.
@B8C0N
@B8C0N Жыл бұрын
He was supposed to die in the final issue based on that deleted scene from ROTS. But George requested that they keep him alive
@giovannibraggs9223
@giovannibraggs9223 8 ай бұрын
It's so ironic, that both Anakin and A'Sharad Hett would eventually turn into some of the biggest villains in the saga. I actually got chills just thinking about it.
@Yung-plague
@Yung-plague Жыл бұрын
Star Wars Republic was my shit as a child
@Yung-plague
@Yung-plague Жыл бұрын
Zule Xiss is amongst my favorite Jedi. Like super high up.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 Жыл бұрын
11:26: In short, no for me, but I still appreciate other non-CWMMP depictions. Actually finished them ALL (yes, even the ones I never read yet) just a few weeks back, hehe. What a fun ride, and am just binging on the Original Trilogy newspaper strip comics and the KotOR comics.
@chimerathrawn5875
@chimerathrawn5875 Жыл бұрын
@2:56 Thought there were two Victories 😏
@flyer3154
@flyer3154 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about Stark hyperspace war? Would be cool to see you cover it
@michielkudova3887
@michielkudova3887 Жыл бұрын
Honestly that whole issue where mace Windu dismantles an entire chapter of the bounty hunters guild with his boys should get it’s own video… though you should show the clip of them facing palpatine and getting their asses kicked at the end.
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