I died in the intro "This is the problem, the problem is windows" always has been my friend lmao

Promox is dope! I've been using it for awhile now to test out virtual machines and containers.

Local LVM does not need to be removed and should be used to install VM’s and Containers. A VM in an LVM storage will perform faster and allows for features like snapshots without using qcow2, and merging physical volumes for volume groups. The only reason I see it should be done is if there are extreme storage limits.

Every time I see people saying "use Etcher" I'm just thinking "why not Ventoy?" I remember using Etcher and it was really annoying to restore my USB flashdrive back into a normal flashdrive and/or repeat everything every time time I want to try a new distro. I outright just prefer Rufus on Windows, and that one comes with the ability to restore the flashdrive easily, but Ventoy just meant you don't need to re-format anything. Just plop down an .iso together with your normal files. Easy.

1) KVM is not a type 2 hypervisor, its basically type 1. Regardless, good topic. 2) Do NOT believe that you can run a windows 10 vm in an old laptop with 4GB RAM.

You still write ISO's to USB? Get Ventoy and just copy the ISO to USB. Then select the ISO you want from the Ventoy menu when booting. So nice.

0:05 TechHut using windows 11 is cursed images

True story, I had a friend who needed Windows for ArcGIS. I built her a Linux Mint system and set up Windows in VMWare Player. She never had problems after that. But I clearly see the advantage of your method.

I really like this topic, but I have some tips for your setup: - Always use VirtIO Drivers for Network and Storage. Even tho they both need some additional setup of drivers, both of them are much more performant if you compare them to the Windows Machine Default Intel E1000 - I'd recommend you to enable balooning for every Machine. Especially for machines with low ram, this can save you much ram for other VMs / CTs. For example the host has 8GB. Machine A needs 6GB of ram (its limit) and Machine B is in idle and just needs 1GB of Ram (with a maximum of 6GB). Proxmox will give the needed Ram to Machine A, as it isn't needed at this moment.

As I need a second computer, I decided I will remove my server and let the second pc run as a server. So, it hosts a windows VM for my gf or friends that are coming over for gaming and then it hosts a ubuntu vm running that is hosting my cloud and nas for inhouse usage. It is running proxmox in its newest version and Windows 11 / Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. (GPU Passthrough, USB card and I was good to go). I now use my old server to look at new linux distors which I might like. Perfect solution for me as I stopped running two computers where only one is needed....

So I consider myself very well versed in virtualization scene but for some reason, I've never heard of this software but my gosh, it just turned an otherwise disaterous laptop breakage mistake into possibly, the most versatile and useful PC carcass in my house. This thing is a dream. Many thanks for this demo.

For the best performance running a Windows machine in Proxmox I recommend this guide: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bMldadtz0KqWemg.html

Virt-manager(Qemu/KVM) is not really a type 2 hypervisor tho, kvm converts linux into a type 1 hypervisor. Proxmox is basically just a stripped down Debian install with KVM, LXC and a great webui for managing it all. Still a good video tho.

Another very informative video, this will be my way to tinker and play with arch.

Never heard of this. Great video and now I have a new project(s)

This is sick. Gonna try this

I run a Proxmox cluster at home and it works very well. You get some of the fancier features for free/cheap that would cost thousands of dollars if you went the VMware route.

Always nice to learn about new virtualisation software, but vit-manager (qemu) is type 1! Actually, the way you used Proxmox is type 2: You visualised every hardware bit in the options (like CPU) instead of doing a passtrough! You might want to change that to increase performance. Also noticed that ProxMox was using KVM, which is what qemu uses, so probably virt manager and proxmox are identical in performance.

Proxmox was my first real dive into Linux. Using it on an old 4th gen i5-4670k with a OpenMediaVault VM handling storage, a mint VM for Linux stuff, and then a Windows VM for stupid microsoft stuff. Since I'm new to Linux, it's actually been quite frustrating and had to redo the whole setup a couple of times before I felt it was OK. It's now being used 24/7, but reading through the comments on this video it seems I can still do a much better job :p

Did not expect to see ArcGIS in one of your videos. Even though I'm a QGIS fanboy, this makes me really happy to see more GIS love :) Good luck for your certification, and have fun with GIS!

Isn't virtmanager just an interface to libvirt which in turn tells kvm what to do? Basically it's a very scaled down version of proxmox.

Great video! Thanks for this mate. I just ordered mini PC and will do exactly the same solution with Windows10 and Linux on the Proxmox. I will finally free my laptop from the VBox and VMs and use the browser instead from any place I have Internet access.

Thanks for the video!

3:07 - Cannot be overstated. Many (even “old”) laptops just don’t have RJ45 ports for ethernet (everything is wireless these days) so uninitiated installers will find themselves having to get USB ethernet adapters. THEN, they’ll run into the problem of 1) finding one with a USB A connector (“old” laptops typically don’t have the newer C connector and good luck finding an adapter for that) 2) one that is plug and play for LINUX (Proxmox is Debian and once installed, until you get it up and running, you’re stuck in that ecosystem). Typically budget USB ethernet adapters run on Realtek drivers. Windows eats these for lunch, but newer Linux kernel versions choke on these. SO, you’ll find yourself going in circles trying to figure out how to get a driver without Internet. (You need the internet to get the driver but need the driver to get on the Internet). I also appreciate that you’re coming at this from a hobbyist home lab approach. Watching your peers happily setting this up on super servers sporting 3 digit RAM resources really hides the limitations of doing this on a budget set-up.

Hey man I love your videos

Thank you bro

Looking forward to the NAS video!

Great video 👍 Thank you. Wondering whether you evaluated xcPNG in the alternative . . . and if so, what were your personal use reasons for going with ProxMox over xcPNG? Kindest regards and happy holidays.

I have a proxmox home lab that I use for work and little projects but I'm running a 5800x with 64gb of ram. I have a domain controller running win server 2022 and 4-5 domain joined win10 and win11 devices. If your virtualizing windows I would recommend install virtio drivers on the windows machine and configuring ballooning as it runs a bit more efficient that way, especially if you're tight on resources. Most linux distros already have this functionality out of the box but It's a bit more efficient overall when they idle I'm not consuming as much ram. With my setup I have a virtualized instance of pfsense, a unifi controller and a pihole running in a LXC container in proxmox, my proxmox install and all the vm's are vlan'd off and the windows server runs DNS and DHPC. also if you are on a limited amount of space/resources you could look into running Docker containers on an ubuntu server VM and set up something like portainer to manage the containers and quickly deploy them with docker-compose, I run several docker containers within that one VM. There are tons of cool things you can do with proxmox, hell even remote gaming and passing through a GPU to a VM. I also made some tweaks that are in the link below, I believe it was ARC tuning section. www.dlford.io/memory-tuning-proxmox-zfs/

Fedora is quite easy to use but also a good distro to try some first tinlering on and also good for pro programmers even.

I would have added a SMB remote connection first to your NAS , that way if you add any iso images / backups it will be saved on your NAS that way if you have to reinstall proxmox you have your images which you will have probably deleted from your computer to save space . otherwise your images , backups and snap shots will be saved on the main drive which is a bad idea , because it is hard if not impossible to get to them if you need to reinstall .

Good video.

Hey just so you know, you don't need to manually resize the filesystem after logical volume extension, there's the -r flag in lvextend which automatically resizes it for you in one go. I've seen a lot of people who don't know that and execute a separate command when it just requires a flag in the same command.

Just chiming in to say virt-manager manages KVM which is a type 1. KVM is what proxmox uses on the backend. Just wanted to say that. Other than that awesome video.

You totally screwed up the local and local-lvm part. Local is where your OS-ISOs and virtIO-ISO sit, it even says it in the description, local-lvm provides the virtual drives for the guest OSes. You'r not unlocking anything, you'r basically restricting. Thin provisioning for example? Not for you, mate.

Please make the video for the Fedora and how you connect to the vms!

LMAO I was thinking "this sounds like network chucks video" and then you said it.

You should show a proxmox gaming set up! Great way to game in widows while using Linux as your main OS because you can do single gpu pcie pass through!

Using virt-manager/libvirt is the same as using proxmox. Proxmox is just debian with a nice interface to libvirt/kvm/qemu.

I know that feel, we are the same has to use windows for Mapping, but I do it because there are regulation that makes me have to do it.

Can you make a vedio of getting kali Linux tools in popos? Or pentesting tools?

"The problem is windows" > Video starts to lag and refresh I mean, not wrong

wow I didn't know you are GIS / geospatial person like myself.. 👍🏻😁 happy to know. yes QGIS is open source but, sadly, many corporation and government really depends on ESRI products and services, so we can't really get rid Windows completely.

Can I use one of the vms as daily driver with stability and not so much performance overhead? What do you suggest?

You can install the Proxmox software on top of standard Debian Linux, so it's not really that much different from, say, VirtualBox or virt-manager in that respect. Where it does shine is its slick Web UI, clustering (which gets you live migration, best used with shared networked filestore e.g. iSCSI), container support and high availability options. I think if you only have one spare machine, then it probably doesn't offer a lot over VirtualBox for most users, but if you're setting up a "home lab" or using it for business where you have more bare metal kit to run Proxmox clustered and also some shareable network storage, then Proxmox is ideal for that.

Hi great video, a question how do I open the browser? Thank you

I tried it, but my LAN connection and/or the machine I was using for virtualization weren't fast/powerful enough. I get much better results using Virtual Box on my Linux machine.

Make sure you install the virtio bubble driver for Windows, otherwise the system will be reporting incorrect resource consumption on the monitor. Linux guests don't have this problem.

I wonder how does this compare to Cockpit. I heard that was a good one as well.

What do you mean ? Qemu , boxes are basically the same stuff as proxmox, they are the same type of hypervisor

Thanks for the very informative content. Uh, and the link referenced / promised / mentioned @ 9:13 'Network Chuck' can be found where exactly ? I cannot see, cannot locate anything. Thanks for the help on this. Keep the awesome content flowing!

Can you only run proxmox VMs through the web interface on another computer than proxmox is installed on? Or can I install proxmox on my main desktop computer while also run the VMs on that same machine? Just so that I can run multiple machines on one computer instead of dual boot multiple systems or such? All my laptops are so weak and I would want to be able to run games in windows as one example, so I don't want to install proxmox on the laptop. Also, if this is possible to do... Does it induce any latency compared to running a OS natively?

Nice

So, do you have to run that win thru vnc? I'm after solution that I can run differend Os things thru "main" os.

So if you're running windows, what is the advantage of proxmox over Hyper V Server? I can see it has the options for drives like a san service. Is it a case of performance better because its dedicated VM Server instead of Windows which runs the Server alongside the OS?

Configure VM to have SPICE as graphics card and use SPICE client on your client, works waaaaaaaaaaaaaay faster and better than the crappy web based vnc :)

So on your Windows VM, is it easy to just choose your GPU or do you have to pass through it?

From only a performance point of view (no need for remote access), will Proxmox installed on a 4 year old Ryzen 7 laptop run better/quicker than running Fusion on an M1 Mac? I just got a used MacBook Pro, and Fusion runs very well. Of course limited to ARM based distros, but Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora all have them. To be clear, this would just be a project for me, I have no real need to do this 😊 Thanks for any input!

Is it possible to run the client on the host machine? I am asking because i run a tripple OS multi-boot system (MacOs, Windows,Linux) with all the pain with boot-loaders. i can see a VM setup to be much more elegant, but not the requirement to connect via another computer in my use case.

Proxmox VE is a type 2 hypervisor, so they say themselves. You can use virtmanager with KVM/XEN as a type 1 hypervisor though?

Do you have a video on QEMU-KVM?.. I read this is also a Type 1 hypervisor that runs in kernel space.

I like your videos, and it's nice of you that you call yourself a hobbyist and not a power-user.

Just as an aside, is proton from steam a way to run your windows software?

Спасибо, очень интересно)

Do you have any issues running ArcGIS Pro on this, I used to run the old ArcMap on VMs all the time but Pro claims to require a real GPU or iGPU? I have long suspected this only is required for 3D maps. Theres a lot of articles on using a pass through GPU to run pro in a VM.

Is that Cheyenne WY on your GIS? It looks like it from what I can see... just curious.

I like using Ventoy to put my ISO's on a USB drive.

what vnc server are you using? On your screen in left side I can see green title VNC.

is it possible to use proxmox for apps only instead of full os ? for example i am using linux but I wanted to use Adobe XD for my App UI development, now i don't want to install / dual boot windows just for only one app, instead can i install adobe xd inside proxmox and access it in linux ?

Can it host MacOS?

Can proxomox be used in a nas solution ?

Man.. why you gotta do this to me?! I've been thinking about doing something like this for a long time now and here you are making me want to commit to it. Stop it! lol

so can this proxmox be installed on a cluster of two or more machines? then later appear as ONE box to the windows installation on top of the proxmox layer ?

While this is sick, you could have just installed parsec on the mini pc and left it plugged in somewhere and forget out about it. Personally what I would have done but I see why you’re using proxmox and I think this made an awesome video.

how if I install two VMs: one is windows 10 another is Linux, if I setup Proxmox correctly, can I run both system locally ( I mean connecto two monitors and one keyboard+mouse to the local PC) without remote connection through web page console?

I like it though it needs to improve how it integrates storage. I.e. having to go to CLI to remove LVM logical volume is LAME. I have an NFS share for ISOs. If I point Proxmox to that same share it doesn't see any of the existing ISOs. (LAME x2) I added an iSCSI volume and having issues getting it seen as VM or backup storage. (LAME X3) It needs more wizards to add storage. It is fast and the GUI is otherwise very impressive.

Does it provide especially good graphics acceleration compared to type-2 hypervisors? Otherwise what is the point? The only problem I have with virtual machines is their slow graphics. CPU speed does not seem much different whether it is native or virtual. If the graphics is just as slow as type-2 hypervisors, and I had an extra PC, I would just install multiple OS's natively on that PC and enjoy full graphics speed when I occasionally have to use a specific software that I do not want to install on my main PC.

So what would be the advantage of this over just installing Windows on a 2nd PC and controlling it with something like Parsec (other than FOSS software over proprietary)

5:33 as bad as my place can be i agree

Does it has any benefits over installing linux + virtmanager etc as a host? Or just ease of install?

Depending on the VM installed...Do you have to access it thru the Proxmox dashboard each time? Just a little confused on how you use the VMs once installed Thanks

Knowing how much you love awesome, wondering why you didn't install it on Proxmox?

I'm not getting the part about logging in to proxmox through web browser. That means I need to have another PC with installed system on it. Doesn't really make sense to me, but maybe I'm just not getting it.

Proxmox runs on Debian and you can run Virtualbox on Debian too, so the differences between type-1 and type-2 hypervisors is nonsense. Both hypervisors are part of the Linux kernel. Proxmox uses KVM and KVM disk IO is faster than VBox disk IO and that is the only difference.

I need Win because Im force to use a windows driver only token to sign posts on a web based document system based on activex (s*** combo). Virtualbox with usb pass trought on my Linux box has been my driver for some time. Is nice to have other options. Thx!

At around 14:57, you said, "Is it going to let me do native". What is this mode? Looks like the VM install of windows runs FULL screen. How did you do this? I've been trying to do this but don't know the setting.

Can I do this on my MacBook pro directly?

How does KVM stack up in performance and usability vs this? I can’t really do this because I would need a secondary machine, which I don’t have, but I also don’t want my virtualization to be practically useless.

Still not sure how this process is better for your use case than VM - other than resources.

5:32 based.

anyone know how to get audio to work on Proxmox ? thanks

i actually wonder how you got the internet enabled by default? i was trying several different workarounds in several different videos and even the VirtiO network driver didnt work so i really need help now to not feel like an idiot, and getting network connection pls

hei techhut can you make video about squid proxy?

Thanks, but I'm not sure I understand the advantage/benefit of using a type 1 hypervisor for your use case. In an enterprise environment yes, it would make sense. But for someone just repurposing hardware why not just make the target platform a multiboot system with each OS of interest occupying a partition? Do you need n number of concurrent VMs (in which case a performance hit is involved)? Yes, Proxmox is cool tech that's fun to play with, but I haven't seen a convincing justification for it being an optimal solution to a problem (which hasn't been clearly stated).

The distinction between type 1 and type 2 hypervisors never made sense to me. Proxmox is just libvirt qemu/kvm on top of debian with a custom web gui. The same way vmware esxi is just their proprietary virtualization software on top of photon linux. How exactly this differs from running virt-manager (gui frontend for libvirt qemu/kvm) on a server completely eludes me. Best I can tell, the distinction boils down to whether or not you use the server for applications other than the hypervisor, and even this gets hairy when you delve into openstack (e.g. is it still a type 1 hypervisor if it's also running a database, nova, cinder, etc.?).

could i get 40 separate chromes running on 4gb?

Extra hardware laying around (wishful thinking). I wish I had an extra laptop laying around to run Manjaro on.

Passing GPUs through? Is that something you can do?

I have a question about Linode, everytime i try to register and i put my cc info in it always comes back that i cannot have an account due to fraudulent behavior. Do you have any suggestions? I do have NordVpn but i dont think that would do it. Thank you in advance.

Anyone know which boot manager that is at 4:32? Thanks in advance.