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The Best Watch To Buy That Will Still Be Desirable, 20-30 Years From Now? | Hey HODINKEE
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Күн бұрынIt's that time again. On Episode 4 of Hey HODINKEE, a reader writes in to ask what watch to buy now to give to his daughter waaaaay down the road (nothing wrong with planning ahead!), and we look at the hows and whys of hand-setting the time. Also, Jack looks at a question all of us who collect have to face, sooner or later: How seldom is too seldom to wear a watch?
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@Joacimbylehn 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else shocked Jack didn't nominate a Cartier Tank for the daughter watch?
@mad3031 2 жыл бұрын
+1 or a JLC Reverso
@DuckySpud Жыл бұрын
That was my first thought, a mid size Tank. Absolutely classic design, has been around for over a century and still looks fantastic so another 20 years won't do any harm! Works perfectly for both men and women as well, about as unisex a design as you can get.
@adamsmith-wi3qg 2 жыл бұрын
"All watches are unisex, don't know if you got the memo" 😆
@LesterLovesWatches 2 жыл бұрын
Cara screaming “Cartier Tank!”
@shadimagdy8196 2 жыл бұрын
Nice that you featured the octo chrono in the end :)
@JosephKang 2 жыл бұрын
"Timepiece papi". I think that says it all. 👍
@phmwu7368 2 жыл бұрын
My first Omega Speedmaster chronograph ran from 1994 to 2016 without any problem before it needed a service... after 22 years !
@lewiswilliams1893 2 жыл бұрын
At first I thought you meant you ran the chronograph itself for 22 straight years. Wait... Did you???
@roeimessica3757 2 жыл бұрын
Give this man a podcast
@conorbarry1928 2 жыл бұрын
I think these are my favourite video series is my favourite
@sidbhomkar 2 жыл бұрын
Featuring that legendary cheese knife moment with Mr.Goldberger....
@kentsai940 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t realize where the origin of the “keyless” works came from. Learn something new everyday ! Love this episode
@ManMacTV 2 жыл бұрын
Cartier Tank
@el_rey1970 2 жыл бұрын
JLC Reverso
@BenTramer 2 жыл бұрын
this x100
@wongbryson 2 жыл бұрын
I simply love hearing Jack’s voice.
@davidb9531 2 жыл бұрын
Say "lubricant" again. Just for Bryson
@japd7897 2 жыл бұрын
Why disconnect comments in the Timex video?.
@resjon7981 2 жыл бұрын
Cartier Santos medium is timeless.
@AliasEveWatches 2 жыл бұрын
"Timepiece Papi" - LOL
@janelavie4115 2 жыл бұрын
Most obvious would be Cartier Tank. No question even.
@ruggsterify 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thoughts. Well stated
@davidp3888 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with the Cartier suggestions. I have a medium Santos that I have earmarked for my daughter.
@eborgesrey 2 жыл бұрын
Timepiece papi! Lol!
@KarenLopez-vk3ny 2 жыл бұрын
Cartier tank should have been one of the recommendations. Absolutely timeless.
@Tnartn 2 жыл бұрын
The Omega DeVille Prestige line is unquestionably underrated. They hit all the key hallmarks of a modern day dress watch: 39 mm case diameter (a sweet spot by modern day standards), roman numerals, and a reliable, proven movement. Great recommendation Jack!
@joegil8955 2 жыл бұрын
Jack needs bigger spectacles.
@HermanHerrera 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. My Daytona was sitting in my AD’s window for a year before I bought it.
@JonathanWFink 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto on Cartier: Pasha, Roadster (PreOwned).
@ArnavSenguptaPlus 2 жыл бұрын
Moar moar moar Jack please!
@locutusdborg126 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much any Rolex and Patek.
@TheRausing1 2 жыл бұрын
It must be a steel bracelet Cartier. Looks good on any woman at any time since it’s conception.
@thumperjdm 2 жыл бұрын
+1. I'm seriously eyeballing a Santos Medium for my 7" male wrist. But, I truly think that watch could be worn by almost anyone of either sex.
@jimhasselle4386 2 жыл бұрын
Precisely why I bought one for my girlfriend for her 50th birthday. She has a 9 year old daughter and some day it will be hers.
@b.vonschnauser207 2 жыл бұрын
I winced at the sight of that guy winding the crown of his Bulgari while it was still on his wrist.
@antjrice1 2 жыл бұрын
Hodinkee have nailed it with this new series. My favourite Hodinkee content since the early Talking Watches.
@arpitvyas281 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. An enchanting video as usual. Light, subtle and insightful with an ever so understated sense of humor. Thanks guys.
@robertnorth1681 2 жыл бұрын
As a father of three, I recommend you be prepared for your children not getting into the things you get into. Don't be devastated if you children have no interest in watches. Buy a watch you like, and if your kids are into it in 20 years, great.
@bastiaannijbroek8685 2 жыл бұрын
So true. I have a watch for my son, which he likes a lot currently. But I wouldnt be surprised if 20 years from now he is not interested in it and just thinks:"dad, you could have invested this money into 'X', it would have helped me a lot more". Then again: I'm a sucker for some romantisism, so why shouldn't he'. Enjoy your Polar Explorer, tiny boy ;)
@lchamp7946 2 жыл бұрын
@@bastiaannijbroek8685 lol. Yeah… maybe he’ll ask you why you didn’t by him .1 Bitcoin instead. I have 4 daughters and am not counting on them wanting my watches for anything more than sentimental value.
@bastiaannijbroek8685 2 жыл бұрын
@@lchamp7946 hahaha. Jup. By then BTC will be 🚀and will buy you a lot of Rolexes ;). Luckily we still have time to build up to that 0,1 BTC and it can be purchased over time, instead as a one off payment. Although, when I bought the Rolex I'd would have bought me more than 0,1 BTC. Sucker dad 🤣
@timewave02012 2 жыл бұрын
@@lchamp7946 I gave a cousin 0.21 BTC for a wedding gift when that much was worth
@andrewgiblin3468 2 жыл бұрын
Very true comment but my three (and four step kids) actually bicker about who gets which watch. All I say is that they’ll at a minimum they’ll each get a birth year Rolex or Omega!
@timothyacowin9761 2 жыл бұрын
Vintagee rolex blueberry
@lipinglin1994 2 жыл бұрын
Vintage Vacheron Constantin
@SP-pn7xx 2 жыл бұрын
Jack, all men's watches are unisex. But we all know it doesn't work both ways...
@WatchUnwind 2 жыл бұрын
I’d disagree that all watches are unisex. I think women can wear most men’s watches but the guy who asked the question obviously meant something that he can wear that does not look like a danty blinged out pink watch. Most watch manufacturers still have men’s and women’s sections on their websites
@Ruckus45 2 жыл бұрын
Before my daughter was born I bought a Breitling Blackbird for the occasion. Its not a small watch by any stretch, and she's a thin framed girl. Yet, she knows one day that watch is hers and she is really excited to be able to wear it. Same goes for my son and my Monaco. He's only 2 but loves putting it on his wrist. So yeah, get a watch that you can make memories with. Your kid will like any watch you give them as long as those memories are attached.
@lewiswilliams1893 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one going crazy with the time setting orientation! I think it is wrong to wind counterclockwise to advance the time clockwise. Period Mechanically I understand it's all the same but design wise no. Just like the Norman doors where there's a handle but you need to push instead of pull.
@elferdude 2 жыл бұрын
The timepiece papi has spoken 😎
@WillGoesBoing 2 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of guys have used the "I want to buy it to pass down to my children" excuse or justification to buy something nice. I know I have.... tee hee.
@tonylee-UK 2 жыл бұрын
6.02: adjusting the movement on the wrist. Noooooooooooooooooooo.....................
@Bourne1984 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 33mm mint 1949 Art Deco bumper cal 351 Omega that I love and that my 5 yr old girl has always been fascinated by. She already knows I’m giving it to her on a special occasion when she’s all grown up. I love this as a gesture. I now have a baby boy and will do the same with him. Maybe my Datejust. Although on monetary basis he would come out trumps!
@Will-hc4xv 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of question is this?
@michaelriera6277 2 жыл бұрын
Fun
@jameskwon7617 2 жыл бұрын
These are great. Please make these longer!
@asema3184 2 жыл бұрын
Unisex luxury watch that will look good after 20 years ? It’s called Cartier Tank !
@user-do8fb9gz4x 2 жыл бұрын
Rolex Everose full gold Day-Date. Any Reverso. Any Cartier.
@knutvonheim3838 2 жыл бұрын
This is quickly becoming a favorite show of mine. Like the format, the topics, and the light hearted humor with small insider jokes tucked into the response 😁 Well done! 👍🏼
@aprilshowersstormtrooper 2 жыл бұрын
What are the inside jokes in this video?
@knutvonheim3838 2 жыл бұрын
@@aprilshowersstormtrooper I was thinking of the Rolex comment around 2:25 minutes into the video. He recommends Rolex, with long waiting lists, and points out the person asking has 20+ years before handing it over the the daughter. 😀 Hope this clarifies my comment.
@GS_Superman 2 жыл бұрын
Rolex 36! Phirst.
@jongoodman7563 2 жыл бұрын
Can Jack be my new best friend? 😂
@christopherliang6879 2 жыл бұрын
The Deville collection is very popular and mentioned quite often in China
@thelucentcrow9084 2 жыл бұрын
Be really good if you guys start doing more interviews they are great
@dannyg6592 2 жыл бұрын
One of my greatest pleasures in life is finding out that my son enjoys some of the same pastimes that I do - photography, tennis and horology. He and I have had many long watch talks which warm my soul. I am planning on purchasing a couple of luxury watches to enjoy while I am alive and then pass down to him when I am gone. He favors Tudor and Rolex, and so do I - another nice coincidence. Great show, Jack. Always love listening to your wise advice.
@reconditionarepantofipiele1272 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no, not Seiko again!
@rodsalvador3608 2 жыл бұрын
The correct answer for your daughter is the Seamaster Ploprof. lol
@JonGotts 2 жыл бұрын
36mm Day Date no doubt
@mahirhaque1801 2 жыл бұрын
Rolex datejust 36mm
@Sams911 2 жыл бұрын
based on 100+ years of history... ANY Rolex watch you buy will be worth a lot more in 30 years than you paid for it... to a lesser extent, Patek, AP, and a few other similar brands.
@runnerwatch2280 2 жыл бұрын
I picked up the new seiko turtle with the birth year and month serial number for my son at 16 or 18. He can have one of my omegas when he’s older. Daughter, I would find 36mm Datejust or OP 34mm salmon.
@Sparklingwater1231 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a JLC Reverso. Classy and timeless design for men and woman, plus a watch from the watchmakers watchmaker. Can't go wrong there
@johnnyboy1586 2 жыл бұрын
Fully agree!
@manuel_winde 2 жыл бұрын
I love mine too… and so does my 6yo daughter 😄
@mattlambert5079 2 жыл бұрын
Woulda definitely recommend a Reverso, or a Tank as a timeless piece under $10k for a future daughter, but perhaps those are too obvious of choices? 🤷🏻♂️
@MinuteMon 2 жыл бұрын
Love the 3 suggestions of Rolex, Grand Seiko and Omega, but I would have also added Cartier!
@lukerabin5079 2 жыл бұрын
I have three kids who are now in their early 20’s and as a watch fiend, I’d love them (especially my boys…yes, I recognise the sexism there) to share my passion for mechanical watches. Nope. They pull a phone out of a pocket, or they prefer a smart watch. I get it, but we can’t force our sensibilities or passions on our kids, well, except at the threat of withholding affection, immediate cash or long term access to an estate. If only they knew there’s none of the last two. I spent it all on watches!
@ShashwatShukla10 2 жыл бұрын
I think the new Omega constellation series is absolutely perfect for the daughter's gift!
@sylinmino 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't mention the Cartier Tank Louis or Must! When the question came in looking for a recommendation, every single facet (unisex appeal, small, enduring design) seemed to screaaaam that watch! Literally been in style for over a hundred years!
@Pete…NoNotThatOne 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing, Cartier was my immediate reaction upon hearing the question. The Tank has been made for over a hundred years, no reason it won’t be in style in another twenty.
@Joe-xo3xy 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Jack, nice show, did not know much why the crown set up is called keyless works. I think intuitively, anti-clock wise feels right due to how right handed wrists work, I guess. In terms of what watch will a child like 20-30 years for, just about any brand, the most important criteria is to choose what you like and ask yourself if it will be beautiful 20-30 years from now as well as fitting into the time frame of the future and it is not always that easy. A tough example is will a hublot fusion or zenith defy be relevant in 20-30 years? For me, absolutely!
@ninjatt1 2 жыл бұрын
"lubricants dry out over time so keep your watches on rotation" all watchmakers will disagree, heres why, modern oils are syntheticaly made, they dry outin about 7-10 years wether the watch is runing or not. keeping a watch running just for teh sake of it running wil just cause unnecessary wear on the movment. we like to compare it to a car, cus you wouldent keep a car running when youre not driving it just to make sure the oil dosent run dry.
@tombarsens1277 2 жыл бұрын
That is more controversial than you make it sound. It is not as black or white as saying a watch that isnt running is automatically better than one that is running all the time. You will need a service either way and a watch is not a car. Out of all the things people can compare a watch to, they compare it to a car, which doesn’t make sense to me. Lubricated watches don't have a lot of wear and tear, that is the point. And you need regular service at some point anyway, be it every 5 or 10 years.
@ams914 2 жыл бұрын
Wind them up once a while. Problem solved. Middle ground found.
@andrevanrensburg3639 2 жыл бұрын
Wear the watches! They're not sacred And life is short.
@mohsinrao4334 2 жыл бұрын
Get said daughter a Cartier Tank Americaine with the full knowledge that even when the climate crisis bites and half the world is under water, that watch will somehow manage to fit in.
@apache313 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I was screaming Cartier at the screen.
@wishywashy378 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir!!
@xu10j4rs1 2 жыл бұрын
@@apache313 same!
@cardinalj 2 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@vidsantoro 2 жыл бұрын
Powerful post....well said
@freddiebrookessmith 2 жыл бұрын
This needs to be longer!!!
@JosepHayes 2 жыл бұрын
I never want these videos to end. I could watch Jack talk about this stuff for hours
@vintagedigital108 2 жыл бұрын
“You have 20 to 25 years to find one” haha what a subtle jab at Rolex.
@momiland7673 2 жыл бұрын
BVLGARI OCTO FINISSIMO
@Khanh.Nguyen369 2 жыл бұрын
I love that heirloom question. AKA I want to buy a watch and not have the baby mamma be mad. 😂😂😂
@matthewblair4963 2 жыл бұрын
30 seconds of ads for a 6 minute video?
@misterloafer5021 2 жыл бұрын
I got my newborn a Rolex, an Omega and a Grand Seiko. Then my wife caught on.
@markp9416 2 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome😂
@sharinglungs3226 2 жыл бұрын
I would do the same, not all three but one watch per child to commemorate the birth.
@kushagrasingh8337 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@milodelgado8960 2 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@RaymondTusk74 2 жыл бұрын
My 4 year has a Black Bay 58 with a nice set of strap options. He’s a real enthusiast
@stevefox8605 2 жыл бұрын
20-30 years, a sundial if we keep going the way we are....
@Kbo513 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the guy just wanted a watch for himself, but justifying the expensive purchase that the watch is for his daughter. Might as well wait if the child is actually interested in watches and get it either when they have graduated college or get married later on. I wouldn’t give something to my child unless it’s something within their interests especially for specific life events.
@ruggsterify 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna go with 1) an investment that he/she can cash in when ever they want. 2) an heirloom she can pass down. Just thinking a little different than you I suppose. To each his own
@earthenjadis8199 2 жыл бұрын
That father is just looking for an excuse to buy a watch for himself. A more reasonable position would be to buy the watch for the daughter when that life event came up. Why does he think his daughter will want a scratched up watch that he chose? "Here you go, sweetie, but you'll need to get it serviced and clean the gunky caseback! But think of all the memories that this watch has (but connected to me, not you)." "Uh, thanks dad..."
@sabyasachidas8335 2 жыл бұрын
Should have mentioned a Cartier Santos or a tank for the daughter
@billybenson3834 2 жыл бұрын
Never use the crown while wearing the watch
@strikey888 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree with him recommending GS. The watches are really nice but the lineup is way too big for it to be a classic watch. A typical Rolex DJ, explorer, sub or GMT would be the safest choice IMO.
@MrSchn3ll 2 жыл бұрын
If it's college graduation before the watch is gifted, and based on today's college kids, you might want to plan for the 35-40 year plan. Then hopefully the watch has appreciated enough to pay off their $1M student loan debt.
@MrJruta 2 жыл бұрын
None. Give them money
@seanmaxwell3319 2 жыл бұрын
That’s boring!
@MrJruta 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanmaxwell3319 there is absolutely no way to predict what a person will like or not like in 20-30 years lol. It’s ridiculous to think just because WE have an interest in something, a future adult will also. It’s MUCH different than passing down a watch a parent/grandparent has worn.
@jaysterling26 2 жыл бұрын
Yes...ish...Invest it in anything ( in a tax free wrapper)- at current interest rates in 20 years that amount will not be worth what is today & the watch for that amount will be a Casio. Actually my Oceanus is probably more accurate & looks classy so...
@ivanoschen 2 жыл бұрын
First time hearing a watch can advance when its crown is turned counter-clockwise. This must be a joke. 😂 And the “mechanism” of the movement doesn’t matter. The design shall be aligned with users’ intuition.
@manumaier9799 2 жыл бұрын
I would prefer the Cartier Santos! Great design 100 years ago. Great design a 100 years from now.
@jeanlefranc3817 2 жыл бұрын
Heirloom timepiece. Easy. Put your name down at a Rolex AD for a Submariner, and she will get it right for graduation. Perfect.
@davidb9531 2 жыл бұрын
10k on a college graduation wtf??? Just get a nomos 36 club campus and save the rest for her studies
@jamesowens439 2 жыл бұрын
I would replace GS with Cartier in the list of watches that will be timeless even in 20 years from now
@LesterLovesWatches 2 жыл бұрын
I now need to check all my 30 crown-wound pocket watches to see which way the hands wind. Thanks Jack!
@tygaz3061 2 жыл бұрын
Yuh NO ... not all watches are unisex.. this is the main complaint of women who want to get into the watch game but dont bec there are few "WOMENS" watches to choose from... pls stop catering to those women who think it's cool to "rock" a mans watch... the untapped watch market are women looking for watches that fit a feminine wrist ie 34 mm to 36 mm but have a feminine look to them.. you notice patek has done this with their "womens" watch line and their ever expanding 24... rolex has dialed down its sizes as well and put more feminine dials.. and added more colors that obviously is targeting women... just sayin.. and when was the last time you featured a womens watch? say 7118? say rolex 31 mm datejust? dont seem to recall either...
@guillemcorberocarreres2498 2 жыл бұрын
This show just got it all. Subtle comedy, good formatting, an amazing host, and serious watch-talk. Quickly becoming my go-to favorite . Thanks Hodinkee and Jack!
@runnerwatch2280 2 жыл бұрын
Deville needs to rebrand, no one likes the name “deville”, we all think of that name as a budget omega. They need to pick up the constellation name and start focusing on those classic designs.
@RT-jf9pp 2 жыл бұрын
for pass on watch, Rolex!....History has been proven!
@damonwilliams2412 2 жыл бұрын
Like your commentary, and show. Unfortunately I believe you are wrong about all watches being unisex, anybody can wear any watch they would like but that does not mean all watches were meant for everyone there are certain designs that were definitely meant for women as well as size, and the same goes for men. It is utopian and the naive to say all watches are unisex
@watchmunch3240 2 жыл бұрын
You are wrong
@lucaslosantos8307 2 жыл бұрын
First comment
@user-wi2gb3hv5w 2 жыл бұрын
An Apple Watch
@alexandermarquardt597 2 жыл бұрын
With all do respect: a watch that is set forward by turning the crown COUNTERclockwise? No that's wrong. That's all kinds of wrong. Again, with all do respect: Nooooooo....
@richardman28 2 жыл бұрын
The answer to the question in the subtitle would be.. we still waiting for the watch when the daughter is 20 or 25 years older. The only watch would be the cartier tank or Santos. The only iconic watch that is still current in style in 20 years time and available to buy.
@sanghoonlee5171 2 жыл бұрын
If you've been a watch guy for 20 years, you should have built a collection that fits you. You have gone through mistakes and parted with the pieces that don't delight you. Whatever remains in the collection after 20 years MUST be desirable--to you.
@watchmunch3240 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Rolex is the only watch you can pass down from generation to generation. The rest they will never appreciate, unless they will be into the watches. I bought Submariner and Explorer for my son, both watches matches his birth year. But if he is not going to be into watches, he will get my Tudor Black Bay Fifty Eight, and I will sell the rest.
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