It’s really refreshing hearing the sort of timescales you talk about. There are so many adult learners on KZfaq trying to promote that it’s normal for adults to be grade 5 in a year, or play Fantaisie Impromptu in a year only practicing an hour a day. Which, from my experience, couldn’t be further from the truth. When questioned about such rapid progress you may get very unhelpful responses, such as “you just don’t know how to practice”. Hearing how it is normal for progress to be slower is very reassuring.

Ah... I started off with all scales both hands at a slow speed. I know the major scales a bit, and was going through the relative minor scales and pentatonic which sound really cute. And doing the first Hanon exercises mostly for finger independence. And trying to play a song I want to be able to play. My progress in terms of the song was frustratingly slow because reading every note takes me some time. And I didn't know what all the symbols meant. And hitting octaves with keys in between is pretty tough for me. So I got myself 2 books for people new to piano... It was pretty funny to see how people are 'supposed' to start off versus what I thought in my head, especially in terms of pacing.

I get what you are saying now I understand why its so hard to be a Teacher especially to children of parents who want perfection or quick results I am an adult and I am learno g piano and its through this process that I learn patience and how learning works. Thank you

This is an excellent reminder even for an advanced pianist.

Thank you. I thought i had to know all the scales by now! I've been playing for about a year now consistently. Your videos are very informative.

Yay, more PianoTV episodes 🥰 I miss the regular videos as the topics were always interesting 😁

I’m so grateful for you and how much you help solidify my drive to practice and pour my heart into this 88 keys. Muchas Gracias Chica!

I just bought a piano and am aboslutely certain I will put one thing as top priority : having fun at what I do . Most courses are simply not "fun " and that means eventually folks give up . So what you're saying is true : if you learn a scale WHILE learning piece that makes it fun ( you don't even have to realize you ARE learning the scale ) , learning scales completely seperate is boring and a grind . I looked at various YT channels and noticed a lot of them don't grasp what music IS : it's not work , it's to enjoy oneself ( either by performing or listening ) . That somehow got lost somewhere

I see "Hop on Pop" back there, that is definitely an example of learning via layering

I’m starting teaching again after a break to go to get my bachelor’s in music. You have been SO helpful during this process of transition! Thank you!

Thanks Allysia ... great and useful concept to keep in mind, so we, specially beginners, don't get frustrated and discouraged by trying to be perfect with every piece we're trying to learn before moving on to learn the next one! ...

Excellent way of practicing 👍👍👍 I had a teacher in the past who expected me to know all major scales hands together within one week!!! Hence I didn’t stay with her more than a few lessons before moving on 😃

Awesome video Piano TV! I have a very similar learning approach to this. I learned guitar by playing my favorite songs, and always playing the setlist that I amassed, from beginning to end, every day, so that I don't forget songs. Eventually this would take several days to make it through 60 songs I had memorized. Over the years, I learned so much just by playing every day, not necessarily focusing on any particular skill. I call it "General Practice". Just the mere fact that you're practicing in general makes you learn a ton without necessarily realizing it. I got better at chords, palm muting, harmonics, staying in time, string skipping, etc. Without necessarily focusing on any of those skills directly.

Very well done tutorial on the layering approach . Makes sense to me. You have a turntable. Yay!

Your videos are very helpful. I am a older adult who have been taking taking lessons for a year 1/2. I sometimes feel like I am going backwards instead of forward and need help with motivation. I appreciate a different spin on learning to help me continue with lessons. And videos on learning correct fingerings? I find that is a challenge for me. Thanks!

YAY NEW VIDEO!!!!!! I just finished watching through a bunch of your videos and I’m super excited to finish this one! I love listening to your stuff while I’m doing homework - gives me something to think about other than math🤣 Thanks so much!!!!!

Thank you this was helpful for so many reasons you covered the things that beginners and intermediate players struggle with, keep up the good work 🙂

Thank you!! I gotta get a piano and start practicing again. Was taking lessons before everything shut down last year.

Your thoughts on the pursuit of 'perfection' on the practice pieces were very helpful to me. DIYing my way through RCM-4, I'm realizing that I've been out of balance between new vs old pieces due to a tendency to spend too much time trying to capture all the nuances. It's good to know that "it will come back later", that it's all part of a long term journey, and it's therefore not necessary to get everything perfect. I'll be content with getting exposed to and putting in some effort into new skills without necessarily mastering every note, tempo and dynamic. Thanks - I appreciate those insights.

Thanks for the video!! Oh and I wore headphones and your voice only came from one side 👀 I thought my headphone was broken for a sec

Having taught at the college level, I think the block approach is actually targetted at the teacher and helps him keep his mind straight. (Masculine since I'm kind of thinking of myself here.) It ends up being an elaborate balancing act between what the teacher thinks the student can handle and what the teacher wants to get across. Obviously once the student starts to get a bit lost in this process then that ends up being a downward spiral. Traditionally the restart points are at the semester boundary, not exactly student friendly. Having office hours oftentimes does not compensate sufficiently for that inadequacy, especially if the student is hesitant about seeing the prof.

Great episode! I picked up a passion for piano this year and have been doing a lot of research. This way I hadn't heard about, and when I wanted to sit down infront of the piano for the first time, "the block method" was pretty much universal..and it felt daunting. So I did pretty much what the "layered method" would be just out of keeping that desire to walk back to the keys everyday. I also agree that each has it's own place in learning :)

Very observant feedback in this video. So many teachers use the block approach and why sadly they lose students in the process with boredom setting in, not enough challenge, no creativity ... They might blame the student as not motivated. Worse some teachers might discourage some students forever.

Good points. Actually I can play all 12 major scales at 4 octaves as she described generally OK, with lots of room for improvement. But that took about 18 months to get there, and I never spent more than say 1/3rd of my typical one hour practice session on scales, Hannon and arpeggios. The other 2/3rds are balanced with lessons and repertoire. That said, I suggest using a timer as you play. If you're like me it's easy to get overly focused on one area of what you want to practice, sacrificing the right attention to other areas. Those 60 minutes can fly by sometimes. Point is, timers can keep you on track and ensure you include multiple 'layers' in your practice routine. A practice journal is useful too.

I used to have a Bach statue on my piano that was my great grandmother's, but I think now I just need to replace it with a bowl of onions.

Thanks!

Love your channel!

Great video. Although, please fix the audio for future videos as the sound is layering too much in my left ear!

as an adult I don't see a reason to be really good at scales early, I'm fine learning progressively harder pieces and so on.

I like Czerny actually o-o ... Also I have enough time to practice really much... playing the piano feels like a vocation, as well as therapy for me, I think I either won't be the same person without it, as it helped me plenty :D

3:08 Have been doing exactly this when I pick up a new hobbies I can get quite obsessive about these kinds of things

is that a purple turntable? i'd like to hear the story behind that one.

I stopped with scales after 3 major, C, F, and G. One way to practice new ones without getting frustrated is to sing the scale song, do a dear, a female dear, ra. It takes a minute to get 2 octaves in. That was probably one of the reasons why my teacher dropped me. Now I am starting with a new teacher. One thing that helped me with missed notes was to first figure whether it was due to misreading music, which is due to lack of skill, or just hitting a wrong key which is lack of attention to the keyboard. Good rhythm helps.

Thanks for your sharing and it is really helpful. And I may have one quick question that do you memorize the pieces? Is it possible to go the exam with the books, I think it will has marks deduction right?

Do you have any plans for intermediate players? For example at around an RCM 5/6 ish level?

Ha coach,( A )🙋🏼‍♂️ Alright that sounds fun ✍~ Let me know whats next 🙏

I'm still pretty bad at walking.

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Allysia I wish I could watch the video with my headphones but the sound is all panned left

I feel like, in a weird way, my ADHD has actually helped my piano playing journey in this case by using this method of learning unconsciously lol

Hey Eleesha, do you offer singing lessons via SKype?

but Allysia! grade 1 abrsm requires us to know 3 major scales and 2 minor! and grade 1 should be achieved by 6 -12 months! so i should practice at least there 5 scales!

Please change your microphone audio to mono!

You should maybe talk a lííí-ttle bit slower. For me that would be nicer to listen to, and better to understand what you are saying. But the message is clear: learning should be organic and natural, and not 'by the book'.