Thanks buddy

Thanks, helpful and time-saving. Just Elementor is not quite right: 17:48.

Thank you so much

Hey @Darrel Wilson. With Flatsome, how does one link the product categories as a dropdown in the header search module, to make it similar to like what Amazon has?

Hey Darrel, what's your opinion on Dokan?

Sorry for language mistakes. I have long experience with Elementor and i realized that "user friendly pagebuilder" is good for fast builded/small and not complicated projects. And one more thing ... this "user friendly builders" keeps you away from being creative ..."do everything we will allow you and nothing more and wait for next update with new feature". People dont realized that is not about the builder but "your own development" ("you use but WE!!! develop" ) Another interesting new page builder is LiveCanvas. Sorry for language mistakes.

I’ve been looking closely at Oxygen this week. I think it’s quite amazing. This is probably the builder all real devs should be using. However, I think it’ll be v5 or v6 until us casual dummies can use it as an Elementor replacement. =) I hope that’s what Oxygen keeping doing... going after the real devs, like Webflow... (and kind of like Elon offering the Model S first) ... then eventually, once they have enough staff and refinements, open it up to a wider audience. The code it output renders insanely fast. It’s exciting!

Actually, Oxygen is so cheap right now, I think I may pick it up to build the less complex one page sites I often have to build. Do you think that’ll be simple enough for a relatively newbie that likes to keep things simple?

Olivia Matthew it has a steeper learning curve. Having a decent understanding of html and CSS is going to help.

and considering speed, meta, markup, user experience which matters for seo and google only OXYGEN wins... coming from a 2 year experience using elementor and divi keep optimising for speed but nothing works its simple a heading should not be nested in 6 divs

Coming next month

@@darrelwilson Great, i just sub please let me know when you have that Google Ads video. Thanks.

thanks! i will probably make an updated version of this tutorial coming soon

By the way, I just saw the page with the sad faces you were complaining about on Oxygen's site. For those items there is a info/question mark symbol next the item name that explains why each item has a smiley/sad face. After seeing Oxygen's pricing it was pretty easy to understand the symbols. All of Oxygen's plans are lifetime, therefore they all offer lifetime support and updates... hence happy face. Divi offers a combination of lifetime and yearly, hence neutral face and finally Elementor and Beaver offer no lifetime plans therefore no lifetime support or updates hence the sad face. Did you honestly miss those descriptions or did your bias make you ignore them? Again, not an Oxygen user/fanboy here... I just want reviewers to be honest to their audience.

their behavior will directly affect their customers, if they are willing to attack other companies and affiliates (closed their affiliate program right after people promoted them), they are even more likely to screw their customers over. Remember, my reputation is on the line when i recommend builders to viewers. Im not taking that risk, they screwed over all their affiliates, they slandered every software company that deals with wordpress, and their builder is extremely complicated to use and not user friendly. I would not recommend it to beginners regardless of the bias. You can learn all about oxygen on their youtube channel, just not the darrel wilson channel

Darrel Wilson I respect your point of view but showing, just to make an example, the horrifying markup code outputted by page builders like Brizy and Elementor compared with the super clean HTML produced by Oxygen is not attacking a competitor is telling the true.

​@@darrelwilson Their builder is a Wordpress implementation of Webflow (webflow.com/). If you come from a coding background (in particular, html and css), then the Webflow UI is tops. It's a beautiful mending of the power and flexibility of coding with the ease-of-use and speed of a good UI. In code you can do things that you just can't do with a Page Builder. On the other hand, a good page builder provides a development experience that is sometimes superior to coding. The beauty of Webflow and Oxygen is that they give (for the most part) the best of both worlds. [I should note that Webflow is more elegant in feel and experience than Oxygen, but it lacks the power of Wordpress and is much more expensive]. So the UI really depends on where you are coming from and what you are trying to do. I much prefer Oxygen to Elementor, Brizy, Divi etc because it empowers me in a way that those tools simply can't. In terms of how they treated their affiliates -- I can totally understand what you are saying. I don't know the details, but it does not sound right to close a program after you get people to start promoting you. In terms of my experience as a customer -- it's been fine. Some of it could be better. For example, support is basically just email. However, other parts of it is great. I enjoy my lifetime license and very much appreciate their video tutorials (extremely helpful). But for me, the most important benefit as a customer has been the features that they have just added (Woocommerce and Gutenberg integration). They enable me to build sites for clients in ways that are great for me as a developer and great for my clients as a user. Finally, in terms of 'slandering every software company that deals with wordpress', I don't know what you are referring to. The comparison videos that I have seen between Oxygen and other page builders is spot on and important to understand. There is a lot of bloat in some of those builders -- and that effects things like site performance (which can effect customer sales, seo, etc). It's fine for someone to accept bloat in exchange of ease-of-use -- but it's also fine to point that there is bloat as a selling point. It certainly speaks to me. Of course, perhaps you have something else in mind -- but I personally would like to see what you are talking about. I personally do not think that a sad face in a comparison chart is slander. In summary -- Webflow is a developer focused theme builder whereas Brizy, Divi, Elementor et al are focused much more on the non-developer market. That doesn't mean that a developer can't use them or vice-versa, but they do have different customers in mind.

@@peterrondelez I totally agree.

Community is high quality compared to elementors

@@darrelwilson yeah

thanks again

Glad it was helpful!

You are supporting an Israeli company!!!!!

@@mylriirlym5581 So are you when going to a hospital anywhere in the world. Israel is a high tech developer country and influences all aspects of science and high tech products. If you want to boycott Israel, you would have to stop using modern technology. Good luck with that :)

Mylri Irlym Israel is extremely advanced, technically. Go with the best: Plus, I'll support Israel any chance I get.

Me too, oxygen is the fastest

Did they have a black friday sale last year?

@@coincollector542 yes, 40% off

Oxygen is in a different category as is more aligned with Webflow.

@@jamieprescott100 - I get your point dude. Still think it'd been good to see though 😁

He talked about Oxygen at the end of the video ... but for ethical reasons he didn't went through it that much

@@boosan3007 Well it was put in a segment called honorable mentions, so not part of the comparison.

You obviously HAVE NOT watched this properly !!!

thanks bro!

I knew you were in the Oxygen camp as soon as I read the words "load times" ;-) I've built numerous Divi sites that have a load time under 500ms on Pingdom with just really basic optimization (don't upload 3MB images and install a caching plugin), and I recently successfully optimized a clients Divi site who demanded a 90+ score on mobile in Google Pagespeed Insights. Personally, I don't like Oxygens user interface, but they do have a lot of cool features. I do own a licence btw.

@@bobweb Oxygen isn't my preferred dev environment actually. It's great for many things, but rapidly developing many sites is not one of them. It's also plagued by bugs and the tiny development team can't address them timeously. GeneratePress + Beaver Builder is also relatively bloat-free but has far more features and fewer bugs. If your Divi sites are reasonably good looking and don't have Spartan homepages, then you will be the first instance I have ever encountered of a

@@bobweb Thanks very much for the link. But I'm not convinced yet. According to GTmetrix, the site isn't using browser caching. The page speed scores aren't great for either GTmetrix and PageSpeed Insights, but the load times are good for Europe. That said, the site is indeed very Spartan which will be hugely contributing to where it is able to load quickly. I can't help but notice several cardinal design sins being committed in all those showcase images though: 1) Paragraphs of text should never, ever be full or almost full width on larger displays. Very jarring. Even on small displays when using tiny text. 2) All your sites need more responsive padding on the sides. 3) Text is way too small on mobile. Beyond those easy to fix issues, there are much greater wider problems with design. The rate you charge on the homepage for a new build is very high by global standards, so I would recommend finding a freelance web designer on a site like Fiverr that can provide outsourced design documentation before the development stage commences. It would make a world of difference and help get away from that 'made in PowerPoint' vibe. And you'd quite quickly pick up on consistent design choices being used and start to rely less and less on a professional designer.

Unfortunately, Darrel doesn't like Louis the owner of Oxygen Builder for the simple fact that he was pointing out what other Page Builders didn't offer or didn't do well. Albeit the delivery probably wasn't the best, it was true though. At this point, it's fruitless to mention in Darrel's Video Comments as he will either tell you that he doesn't like Oxygen because of Louis or he'll completely ignore you. :-/

You Oxygen staff ? Go peddle it elsewhere.

Ray JH unfortunately that’s where you have me wrong. I am not affiliated or employed by the Oxygen, Sofli, or any team associated to Louis. I’m a customer of their product and others in the list in this video. What I comment is that of a customer and bystander in the blacklisting of a honestly good product. Just like Uber and the things that happened to them, people will eventually see the product as something that is good, and very useful. It will just take time because of the blacklisting several content creators have placed on the company.

thanks bro!

Very true! Divi and brizy have good support, elementor support is pretty bad

@@darrelwilson you are a master of elementor please can you help with issue in elementor , image ( in product image widget) does not show in editor, why?

I paid almost 200 bucks because of the WPBakery, and now I'm very frustrated but don't want to give it up yet. I wish he had made this video earlier T-T...

The Astra and OceanWP thèmes work very well with using the Site Builder: Elementor. You need to use the site builder on your theme. Webyoda has videos on how to make sites using Elementor, for both these themes.

the most important thing to look at, is what page builder do they use. Try and go with themes that use Elementor as its much easier to use the WPbakery.

sure ill add it

Jason Darren most people are 😝

Visual Composer also a good page builder yet.. We do also like to use this page builder with Elementor!

I’ll be working on this very soon probably in about one month or so

thanks!