The BIG Debate

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Daily Maverick

Daily Maverick

3 ай бұрын

Imagine South Africa under the leadership of each party represented here. What would our future from economic policies to social reforms look like? Can we trust them to deliver?

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@wazha1000
@wazha1000 3 ай бұрын
Grootes was a terrible host. He brought bullying tactics from talk radio. The personal attack on Mashaba was shameful
@a.dlamini
@a.dlamini 3 ай бұрын
Very
@fatherofEgo
@fatherofEgo 2 ай бұрын
But I love how Herman conducted himself in response. Around the 30th minute or so
@noahsepp
@noahsepp Ай бұрын
Agreed. How rude of him. As a host you can’t do that. This was a political debate and Grootes just attacked Mashaba for no reason.
@isaaccpt6643
@isaaccpt6643 3 ай бұрын
We can say whatever we want about South African politics but I'm hapoy that our democracy is healthy enough to have such a public debate and that is extremely encouraging
@VoiceOfReason579
@VoiceOfReason579 3 ай бұрын
Lol because things have gotten serious. Desperate times call for Desperate measures.
@realnews8075
@realnews8075 3 ай бұрын
These are not white apartheid times... where children were killed for wanting freedom
@dalipantshwa3078
@dalipantshwa3078 2 ай бұрын
smoke and mirrors friend. these faces are on the same payroll. Google Brenthurst Foundation and the conference it hosted recently where all the "leaders" on this panel were summoned.
@caven7056
@caven7056 3 ай бұрын
The audience is not a reflection of the demographics of SA.
@fatherofEgo
@fatherofEgo 2 ай бұрын
its a microscope into the consumers of DM, does it have a true reflection of the people of RSA?
@user-ne3nm3wk6p
@user-ne3nm3wk6p Ай бұрын
The Audience exposes the lense that The Daily Maverick curates its narrative and selective outrage and suppresses certain narrative to pander to this minority. I never believed it when they spoke of Stratcom but you can not help but see it on this video and how they ran this platform.
@yourehuman9325
@yourehuman9325 3 ай бұрын
Can't expect to have a BIG debate with only Oppenheimer's children..
@eldenrossouw314
@eldenrossouw314 3 ай бұрын
Except Gayton, he is not funded by anyone.
@lindilemgqobele4337
@lindilemgqobele4337 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@tshidiso9653
@tshidiso9653 3 ай бұрын
A gangster🤣🚮
@ttramokolo49
@ttramokolo49 3 ай бұрын
😂
@lindilelubabalozulu8476
@lindilelubabalozulu8476 3 ай бұрын
This was a joke
@mponengjoe9075
@mponengjoe9075 3 ай бұрын
No election debate is complete without the EFF.
@user-ml9cp7vc5u
@user-ml9cp7vc5u 3 ай бұрын
It's a ploy to undermine a very progressive political voice in the country. It is a fact that the EFF makes a huge impression in every debate where they are invited.
@_Msizi_
@_Msizi_ 3 ай бұрын
I couldn't even continue with the video after finding out. Now I'm going to unlike it and leave. I'm furious at this point.
@kamogelopelo3277
@kamogelopelo3277 3 ай бұрын
TRUE!!!
@SELLOMALESA
@SELLOMALESA 3 ай бұрын
true
@TheADS121
@TheADS121 3 ай бұрын
EFF was invited but declined
@mgwampi
@mgwampi 3 ай бұрын
The IFP leader quietly stole the show for me.
@fatherofEgo
@fatherofEgo 2 ай бұрын
KZN is safe, its clear to hear
@Morokafrocentricthinker1950
@Morokafrocentricthinker1950 2 ай бұрын
I like how he make his arguments.
@wikussedze9292
@wikussedze9292 3 ай бұрын
The interviewer Steven is making it so obvious who he favors. Found it quite irritating. You are not open and equal to everyone. Clearly Steven is favouring the DA.
@sharibhai
@sharibhai 3 ай бұрын
yes
@nkanyisomkhize853
@nkanyisomkhize853 3 ай бұрын
That what I'm seeing, exactly
@chiccodeebokmurema671
@chiccodeebokmurema671 3 ай бұрын
The good thing is that he exposed himself
@bold_art
@bold_art 3 ай бұрын
He is unprofessional and childish, as he is at SAFM
@expose_massive_banking_crime
@expose_massive_banking_crime 3 ай бұрын
@@bold_art I was a fan for some time but...he is also just singing for his supper 24/7 thesedays
@spha325
@spha325 3 ай бұрын
My vote 🗳️ Nationally belongs to Patriotic Alliance ❤❤❤❤
@corneliapeters7877
@corneliapeters7877 Ай бұрын
A vote for them is a vote for the anc
@eldenrossouw314
@eldenrossouw314 Ай бұрын
​@@corneliapeters7877 clearly you are brainwashed and do not understand politics and how a coalition work. You will see after election day who will go with ANC, you are in for a big surprise
@doreennation7432
@doreennation7432 20 күн бұрын
Jig WhyANC. Don't you think and agree that thirty Years of failure is enough.Letd take South Africa forward..✌️💰🙏🙏🙏🙏
@shinaberum3952
@shinaberum3952 3 ай бұрын
Gayton is fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Making the establishment politicians very uncomfortable 😂🥳🥳😂🥳🥳🥳
@mathewrichards7309
@mathewrichards7309 3 ай бұрын
ANC Puppet
@jaimpin4784
@jaimpin4784 3 ай бұрын
I AGREE AND STEVEN IS MAKING HIS NAME @ss to ask idiotic questions and trying to make him as a joke. If Gayton could win and stand by his word this country will change for the best
@Pawn2King_1
@Pawn2King_1 3 ай бұрын
Gayton is REALISTIC, he doesn't sugarcoat stuff, straight truth.
@OreDecor
@OreDecor 3 ай бұрын
Steenhuizen you are not a man of your word which makes you not an honourable person
@maryjooste6161
@maryjooste6161 3 ай бұрын
To me John doing very good
@mythoughts5170
@mythoughts5170 3 ай бұрын
​@@maryjooste6161Agree 💯
@the_antiquark
@the_antiquark 3 ай бұрын
I think John is doing a great job
@penekedirero4636
@penekedirero4636 3 ай бұрын
​@@maryjooste6161You must be same colour as him then.
@balsak007
@balsak007 3 ай бұрын
Explain
@nyikobaloyi5527
@nyikobaloyi5527 3 ай бұрын
Herman Mashaba put that sorry excuse of a host in his place nicely!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@sharibhai
@sharibhai 3 ай бұрын
yes
@christianKing101
@christianKing101 3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@jaimpin4784
@jaimpin4784 3 ай бұрын
Steven is a joke of note , could they not find someone better than him
@sharibhai
@sharibhai 3 ай бұрын
@@jaimpin4784 yes
@SwiftSP
@SwiftSP 2 ай бұрын
That comeback of Mashaba is like South Africa vs England the last 10 minutes Rugby WC that is etched into history 😂😂😂😂
@lockdownhouse6308
@lockdownhouse6308 3 ай бұрын
EFF’s absence is louder !!
@MalooTheSpecialist
@MalooTheSpecialist 3 ай бұрын
I may not be an EFF supporter but where is the EFF, where is the MK, where is the Freedom Front Plus party... This debate was structered to undermind certain parties and to make other parties stand out... Steven is a real doooooos...
@expose_massive_banking_crime
@expose_massive_banking_crime 3 ай бұрын
agreed a total do00s
@Augustinmasedi348
@Augustinmasedi348 2 ай бұрын
It's just a show for Oppenheimer's puppets,luckily we're not that stupid anymore
@viandrejack9896
@viandrejack9896 2 ай бұрын
And how come Cyril didn't represent ANC .I would have liked to see that
@mthokozisilanga4497
@mthokozisilanga4497 3 ай бұрын
Good Mashaba for putting this journalist in his place😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Artistsandlegends
@Artistsandlegends 3 ай бұрын
The EFF leader is a dictator in the making. Be careful of him. #zimbabwe
@user-gy4lv3ck9q
@user-gy4lv3ck9q 3 ай бұрын
The leader of the IFP was the most mature and was a statesman…. The rest were politicians.
@bokangreacts843
@bokangreacts843 3 ай бұрын
without the EFF this is just propaganda to bash the ANC by moonshot pact wont waste my time
@phiwo8998
@phiwo8998 3 ай бұрын
Steven is utterly unprofessional, condescending in his tone and laughter ! Terrible panelist.
@bhekisibiluane4030
@bhekisibiluane4030 3 ай бұрын
shameful behaviour sies!
@mponengjoe9075
@mponengjoe9075 3 ай бұрын
DA is likely to see its worst electoral decline this year.its leader is a walking wreck and lack leadership acumen .he is all over the show and lack strategic planning.
@superbowljoel01
@superbowljoel01 3 ай бұрын
to be fair, it's hard to take the anc representative seriously here, because every problem we face has been created by the anc. It's like asking your drug dealer to solve your drug addiction problem.
@godwillpulesnr9635
@godwillpulesnr9635 3 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. He disappointed me seriously.
@VoiceOfReason579
@VoiceOfReason579 3 ай бұрын
True but at least he's condescending to all the panelist right 😂
@mousepad9763
@mousepad9763 3 ай бұрын
Steven 😂😂😂😂 this stage was too big for you sir you were utterly unprofessional
@saneledlamini2109
@saneledlamini2109 3 ай бұрын
He's DA membership was showing there
@expose_massive_banking_crime
@expose_massive_banking_crime 3 ай бұрын
@@saneledlamini2109 I bet he is FF+
@noahsepp
@noahsepp Ай бұрын
Big facts
@EmmanuelMoela
@EmmanuelMoela 3 ай бұрын
Stephen Grootes is soo immature what a shame!
@sharibhai
@sharibhai 3 ай бұрын
yes
@noriamamabolo1488
@noriamamabolo1488 3 ай бұрын
Indeed 😮
@CeciliaAdrio-ek5iq
@CeciliaAdrio-ek5iq 3 ай бұрын
I do agree with Gayton regarding illegal immigrants having the jobs!!!!
@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou
@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou 3 ай бұрын
Gayton must be used,he must prove himself in a more challenging position,he can deliver
@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq
@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq 3 ай бұрын
But who is giving them jobs and notice how they want to get rid of minimum wage so they can under pay the poor and say at least they have jobs.
@bhekisibiluane4030
@bhekisibiluane4030 3 ай бұрын
@@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq shameful capitalist clapping hands sies. Debate was a clown show.
@GB-ql8vm
@GB-ql8vm 3 ай бұрын
Mostly white people flapping hands because STEVEN IS WHITE ​@@bhekisibiluane4030
@sharibhai
@sharibhai 3 ай бұрын
true
@WalterWhite-bc8ck
@WalterWhite-bc8ck 3 ай бұрын
Gayton Speaks like this because he is not funded.... He is free and not bound by anyone❤❤❤
@CodeSleeper
@CodeSleeper 3 ай бұрын
Facts💯💯💯
@GB-ql8vm
@GB-ql8vm 3 ай бұрын
Gayton McKenzie don't have to clean lick any boby GAYTON MCKENZIE PLEASE FONT YOUR VOTERS
@GB-ql8vm
@GB-ql8vm 3 ай бұрын
Don't let your voters down
@sharibhai
@sharibhai 3 ай бұрын
👍
@himdamnself
@himdamnself 3 ай бұрын
No room for xenophobes
@balenidumisani296
@balenidumisani296 3 ай бұрын
Why is this crowd only white? Is this discussion taking place in Europe?
@maxinefoster18
@maxinefoster18 2 ай бұрын
Good question
@TheSebastianmamba
@TheSebastianmamba 2 ай бұрын
The blacks are at Cubanas😂😂
@Mstshepana90
@Mstshepana90 2 ай бұрын
That audience is the owner of Mzansi
@user-ne3nm3wk6p
@user-ne3nm3wk6p Ай бұрын
It is absolutely shocking. The Daily Maverick is out of touch and ethically unsound as a serious journalistic publication. Shameful
@GrootmanSipho
@GrootmanSipho Ай бұрын
Is that all you came here for, do you live in SA? If you do you would be aware that certain parts of SA are dominated by Blacks and some are dominated by Whites, some are dominated by Coloured and some by Indians etc. Now use your common sense. If the debate were held in Eldorado Park what do you think the crowd would have looked like? Same as if it were held in Alexandra Township.
@christinefinniss6263
@christinefinniss6263 3 ай бұрын
What a cool guide guy, leader of the IFP. 🤙 Good luck sir.
@lm_b5080
@lm_b5080 3 ай бұрын
i saw a lot of big ego's on that stage. he was the only one that looked like a president
@londimkhize9196
@londimkhize9196 3 ай бұрын
very measured and calm,,, it was descending into chaos until he calmly spoke about trusting the work of the Multi Party Charter
@veronicakarstel9126
@veronicakarstel9126 3 ай бұрын
Also like him
@veronicakarstel9126
@veronicakarstel9126 3 ай бұрын
Should multi party charter win, he must be president
@Morokafrocentricthinker1950
@Morokafrocentricthinker1950 2 ай бұрын
PA AND ActionSA will save the country
@corneliapeters7877
@corneliapeters7877 Ай бұрын
A vote for PA . Means a vote to the anc
@Will-po2tx
@Will-po2tx Ай бұрын
​@@corneliapeters7877liar
@mcdonaldtshabalala663
@mcdonaldtshabalala663 3 ай бұрын
Gayton and Mashaba are the best... Parliament will be interesting
@generationbasson8159
@generationbasson8159 3 ай бұрын
Parliament is not a childs play ground
@prudencemakhoba5561
@prudencemakhoba5561 2 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@WalterWhite-bc8ck
@WalterWhite-bc8ck 3 ай бұрын
Gayton McKenzie was throwing hits after hits after hits....❤😂🎉
@copycatprint4584
@copycatprint4584 3 ай бұрын
I love my President 💚💚
@terminator2846
@terminator2846 2 ай бұрын
I literally love how Gayton never sugar coats anything here 😂😂😂. We needed someone like this here. ActionSA has spoken some sense. My vote will never go to DA nor the ANC 🚮. John is a liar and is not for the people.
@kopanokhumalo4344
@kopanokhumalo4344 3 ай бұрын
Lamola had the toughest job...unfortunately the ANC is rotten
@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou
@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou 3 ай бұрын
Lammy should be a teacher
@tapiwajames341
@tapiwajames341 3 ай бұрын
He did well though
@lihlechipeya
@lihlechipeya 3 ай бұрын
"You are just making that noise because your domestic worker and your nanny is going, she's going. You can make that noise as much as you like, under my government she is going" Gayton McKenzie 🤣 16:38
@BonganiM-xb4wc
@BonganiM-xb4wc 2 ай бұрын
He doesn't trust you 😂😂🤣🤣🤣twice
@expose_massive_banking_crime
@expose_massive_banking_crime 2 ай бұрын
as if we can afford workers anymore. he is SO out of touch with normal ppl
@lusapho5781
@lusapho5781 2 ай бұрын
Gayton a real one 😂
@tinashemavurayi
@tinashemavurayi 2 ай бұрын
Really happy to be employed as garden boy, maids and waiters in your own country.
@expose_massive_banking_crime
@expose_massive_banking_crime 2 ай бұрын
@@tinashemavurayi respectable work
@junephillips1174
@junephillips1174 2 ай бұрын
This interviewer Is most definitely a DA member. His not giving Gayton Mckenzie a fair chance his bias. My vote goes to PA .
@kamomabuya5457
@kamomabuya5457 3 ай бұрын
When Gayton and John were going at each other and Lamola said "South Africa, here's your coalition government" I felt that 😅💔🥺.
@mponengjoe9075
@mponengjoe9075 3 ай бұрын
Illegal immigration benefits busness bcos of slave wages n not adhering to minimimum wages.all this NGOs representing illegal immigrants r likely funded by big business and big farmers.
@MihlaliNomandela
@MihlaliNomandela 3 ай бұрын
This is not balanced without the EFF's presence. But ke it's the DM, what did you expect?
@fatherofEgo
@fatherofEgo 2 ай бұрын
we must not be disillusioned by this. Their lack of involvement speaks volumes, how can you speak of them in absentia?
@peternampolo5290
@peternampolo5290 3 ай бұрын
If only the EFF was present, this debate would have taken the right direction. Other than that, this was pure nonsense at the highest level. There’s no conviction in ideology and structural implementations intended.🚮
@DabbieDebs
@DabbieDebs 3 ай бұрын
Would disrupt the meeting and make it a circus, like in parliament....they are so intolerant and arrogant.
@penekedirero4636
@penekedirero4636 3 ай бұрын
Tell us where is our gogos monies baba before you can be allowed on the table😂
@leratomohlaudi5814
@leratomohlaudi5814 3 ай бұрын
You are having debates with Parties that are not even on the national stage , that haven’t proven themselves yet you leave the EFF out😂? What a joke this is
@siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
@siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 3 ай бұрын
Go and debate where you have proven and don't invite these Parties,call ACT,UDM and MK the debate alone,it will be nice to see Malema,Holomisa,Zuma,Magashula
@caven7056
@caven7056 3 ай бұрын
Eff doesn't have interviews with daily maverick
@phillipphoku9589
@phillipphoku9589 3 ай бұрын
The audience doesn't represent the diversity of the South African population. It's like this show was recorded in Europe.
@MartinVirgo-kz5wm
@MartinVirgo-kz5wm 3 ай бұрын
Best ❤❤
@sindiso_ndlovu
@sindiso_ndlovu 3 ай бұрын
It was a presentation to the bosses
@lysterwhitfield5551
@lysterwhitfield5551 3 ай бұрын
That's because your clan is more interested in going to shebeens and Shisanyamas instead of showing up at debates.
@mmmotives7452
@mmmotives7452 3 ай бұрын
Participation is voluntary. If people do not engage themselves, don't blame or pull the race card.
@himdamnself
@himdamnself 3 ай бұрын
It's the reason why the EFF was not invited
@Nodange666
@Nodange666 3 ай бұрын
You can isolate the EFF all you want but deep down i know you know
@lindilelubabalozulu8476
@lindilelubabalozulu8476 3 ай бұрын
They know everything and they are exposing themselves now
@sasha8664
@sasha8664 3 ай бұрын
😂Yes,we know they are Violent and Corrupt
@siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
@siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 3 ай бұрын
Daaamn who in good mind,invite EFF for debate,I have never seen these guys debating even in our national assembly.
@bernardwelff8089
@bernardwelff8089 Ай бұрын
Yes we know the eff is useless😊
@lesedimohapi5283
@lesedimohapi5283 3 ай бұрын
Not really pleased by the QUALITY of questions asked by the journalists. Simply questions grabbed from the air
@sheldinduplessis1424
@sheldinduplessis1424 3 ай бұрын
When Gayton told that guy "Nobody is that stupid".... That was the perfect response.
@craiggouws4700
@craiggouws4700 3 ай бұрын
Steven is clearly in favour of DA. How can they allow Steven as an interviewer? He is not objective
@thamytmvelase2731
@thamytmvelase2731 3 ай бұрын
That Steven guy is so unprofessional, we expected such behavior from politicians not the interviewer. Completely ruined what could hv been a great debate. I like how Mashaba handled him
@geoffrbbrown
@geoffrbbrown 3 ай бұрын
The two DM people are utterly unprofessional and disrespectful … They play to the gallery by mocking Lamola. I’m not an apologist for him, but how utterly unprofessional they are.
@adamwyngaard3629
@adamwyngaard3629 3 ай бұрын
Definitely missing Mr. Malema. Mr McKenzie says it like it is, that's what we need in Politics in SA.
@TheBuhlebezwe
@TheBuhlebezwe 3 ай бұрын
Definitely voting for ActionSA. Mashaba comes across as a very honest patriotic man that just wants to fix SA.
@rogerwolfson4897
@rogerwolfson4897 3 ай бұрын
I love Gaton, his my man
@Pamela-ek9cp
@Pamela-ek9cp 3 ай бұрын
Voting for PA
@nanasi9791
@nanasi9791 3 ай бұрын
There is nothing controversial about carrying Id documents until an influx of illegal foreigners is under control.People carried dompaas during the apartheid goverment at some point.
@rosehunter5140
@rosehunter5140 3 ай бұрын
So you think it is a good idea to bring back the dompas??
@bernardwelff8089
@bernardwelff8089 Ай бұрын
Agreed, anything to remove illegal foreigners
@isoboy1000
@isoboy1000 3 ай бұрын
"If you know the value of money you wouldn't be doing what you are doing right now" i felt it. You could see on his face that he didn't take it well.
@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq
@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq 3 ай бұрын
The man wants to under pay his employees and say looking they have jobs Mashaba only cares about his business interest and nothing else.
@mukuvaribrighton1586
@mukuvaribrighton1586 3 ай бұрын
That Stephen is a stupid lad, he keeps on throwing undertones. Its clear he is a DA stooge, Im happy Mashaba put him in his place.
@mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121
@mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121 3 ай бұрын
​@@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq He says, Labour can't treat SMMES the same as Medium size and Big business. It is the those laws that kill small businesses. Small businesses must pay as much as they can afford. It is small business that help decrease unemployment. Half a loaf of bread is better than nothing.
@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq
@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq 3 ай бұрын
@@mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121 Bro Mashaba just said he wants to determine how much he should pay someone period.Capitalist only care about profit he further states that's the reason he became a politician.
@mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121
@mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121 3 ай бұрын
@@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq Remember, he talks on behalf of ActionSa, and ActionSa does not put a blanket policy on these kinds of businesses as I have distinguished them from above. Its an error on his part, because he is not a seasoned politician. Otherwise, he's the right man for the job. Capitalism has its falls but its way better than socialism, socialism is a disaster, it has not worked anywhere. Free market economy is the best for South Africa. As long a the ruling government does not have a healthy relationship with the (1) private sector in Sa and (2) does not promote non-racialism, then rest assured nothing will ever work in SA, SA will be a failed state.
@spha325
@spha325 3 ай бұрын
John is a true politician his lying with a straight face 😂😂😂😂
@picassocube3521
@picassocube3521 3 ай бұрын
"If you know the value of money you wouldn't be doing the job that you're doing right now", in future, when I see Steven's face I'll be reminded by this line!
@neekvids
@neekvids 3 ай бұрын
how can you laugh at someone who lives under a bridgewhen you live in a box
@Activist.Corner
@Activist.Corner 3 ай бұрын
Where is the EFF, where is the MK. The exclusion of this political parties really shows that they represent the people, they are not of the system that oppresses blacks and the poor.
@the_antiquark
@the_antiquark 3 ай бұрын
Yes they are😂 worse than ANC.
@menziken2783
@menziken2783 3 ай бұрын
Because EFF is not part of this, it's a joke 😂 😂 😊
@samkelomngadi9515
@samkelomngadi9515 3 ай бұрын
Both EFF and MK, it's a joke
@siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
@siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 3 ай бұрын
We dnt bring Stoojies on such platforms,you see and listen here,no need to make noise,there are smart microphones.
@IonizedComa
@IonizedComa 3 ай бұрын
Because it's a civil debate. There's no throwing water bottles and screaming at the top of the lungs
@ntobekodube2081
@ntobekodube2081 3 ай бұрын
Shots fired by Mashaba 💥😂😂😂😂
@siphiwengcobo3975
@siphiwengcobo3975 3 ай бұрын
What makes this circus big without the party that represents the BIGGEST population of our country EFF? Do whatever you like but you will never silence the mighty EFF🖤💚❤️
@lindilelubabalozulu8476
@lindilelubabalozulu8476 3 ай бұрын
Why are we being discriminated against?
@fanasmkhethoni8176
@fanasmkhethoni8176 3 ай бұрын
No discrimination, the eff leaders wouldn't participate in anything that has to do with the Daily Maverick and ENCA.Daily maverick investigated The eff leaders on VBS Scandal​@lindilelubabalozulu8476
@LL2019
@LL2019 3 ай бұрын
This is the debate organized by the funders of the parties represented here. They wouldn't like their funds to be used by the EFF.
@user-yz3su4nu9b
@user-yz3su4nu9b 3 ай бұрын
Because EFF always turn everything into anarchy
@siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
@siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 3 ай бұрын
And dnt feel offended,we all know Eff from day one has never been a part of the national assembly debate,all they do, it's wear red and coz chaos always.Ethics first.
@user-do1pb2cp9w
@user-do1pb2cp9w 3 ай бұрын
This plane called multi party coalition has failed before it could even get off from the ground
@kgosimahlaku1981
@kgosimahlaku1981 3 ай бұрын
EFF is politics in SA and is what made most people to be aware of political issues.
@oitsiaya468
@oitsiaya468 3 ай бұрын
Facts
@icno123
@icno123 3 ай бұрын
07:54 this how we 🇪🇺🇺🇸🇨🇦🇬🇧🇯🇵 all laugh at africa how africa govern itself 😹😹😹😹😹😿😿😿😿😿😿 banana africa
@user-nv5tu1je1h
@user-nv5tu1je1h 2 ай бұрын
True
@user-tz1pm7ir4s
@user-tz1pm7ir4s 3 ай бұрын
Gayton I agree with your view on Hamas 💯💯💯
@christinefinniss6263
@christinefinniss6263 3 ай бұрын
Correct Ronald, the ANC needs help. Help to exit as a governing party.
@TshepoMotale-zq9sd
@TshepoMotale-zq9sd 3 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤
@bernardwelff8089
@bernardwelff8089 Ай бұрын
Yup we will gladly assist by voting Patriotic Alliance 🎉🎉🎉
@timzone8075
@timzone8075 3 ай бұрын
Gayton speaks honest truth, even Steven is touched, he worried about his wokers at the expense of South Africans who are unemployed. For the sake of law, I'm prepared to carry my Identity documents the same way I'm carrying my driver's license. They reasons as why Unemployment is high in SA is because, jobs are stolen by foreigners and Unpatriotic employers. In SA foreigners they get employed by companies that do not respect the laws of this country, by employing foreigners with no special skills, but general skills South Africans have.
@_Msizi_
@_Msizi_ 3 ай бұрын
Wy didn't we have an EFF rep here. Imnot watching the rest of this. Bye bye
@user-dq6un8eu6x
@user-dq6un8eu6x 3 ай бұрын
Prof JJ Tabane must organize a proper political debate for us. That will include the Eff.
@penekedirero4636
@penekedirero4636 3 ай бұрын
1stly you must tell us where is our gogos money and when you are gonna pay it back baba then we can talk.
@KhelleRadebe
@KhelleRadebe 3 ай бұрын
Most definitely, this was laughable 😂 it is more of a white worry debate.
@icno123
@icno123 3 ай бұрын
07:54 this how we 🇪🇺🇺🇸🇨🇦🇬🇧🇯🇵 all laugh at africa how africa govern itself 😹😹😹😹😹😿😿😿😿😿😿
@colleenrajpaul6023
@colleenrajpaul6023 2 ай бұрын
Gaydon is a leader no dout
@Lee_BuU
@Lee_BuU 3 ай бұрын
Jonh just gets dumber dumber😢😢😂
@maryjooste6161
@maryjooste6161 3 ай бұрын
Your not serious why do you say John are dumb mybe thres problem with you IK
@Lee_BuU
@Lee_BuU 3 ай бұрын
@maryjooste6161 are you listening to what he is saying...and do you honestly believe what he represents is for the good of all South Africans ...you must analyze things critically and don't put emotions upfront ...especially in politics....lemme give an assignment...go listen to Trump Vs Malema ...compare the two ...then you go listen to John vs Biden they both these two have ...no vision...no patriotism...and lack leadership
@WalterWhite-bc8ck
@WalterWhite-bc8ck 3 ай бұрын
❤ beautiful said❤
@the_antiquark
@the_antiquark 3 ай бұрын
John was brilliant
@KKOPPONG
@KKOPPONG 3 ай бұрын
The DA is fucked. If John is the best the DA got then tough luck😂
@GrahamRollison
@GrahamRollison 3 ай бұрын
Lost all respect I had for Steven grootes. Gayton u what this sinking country needs.
@GB-ql8vm
@GB-ql8vm 3 ай бұрын
AMEN AGREE 💯 WITH YOU
@clementpetersen-vb1nm
@clementpetersen-vb1nm 3 ай бұрын
I am really impressed by Gayton Mckenzie he is very direct and is clearly representing the colored voters and citizens sentiments not just his own. After listen to this debate I will definitely vote for Gayton Mckenzie
@Abby_KayGee
@Abby_KayGee 3 ай бұрын
Gayton is what we need as a country. Decisive,smart and patriotic.
@relaxmeditatelive
@relaxmeditatelive 3 ай бұрын
You mean erratic, irrational, and emotionally unintelligent.
@maryjooste6161
@maryjooste6161 3 ай бұрын
I'm in Bwest where gayton are in charge Bwest is a rotten place under gayton look how Knysna look u under gayton he talk but not a walk
@mythoughts5170
@mythoughts5170 3 ай бұрын
​@@relaxmeditateliveAbsolutely agree with you👏💯
@copycatprint4584
@copycatprint4584 3 ай бұрын
Abby u are my kinda person
@bernardwelff8089
@bernardwelff8089 Ай бұрын
​@@maryjooste6161thanks but I am done voting for useless DA and Anc😊
@skimanization
@skimanization 3 ай бұрын
It could have been nicer if the EFF was invited in this debate. The strong youth led EFFof South Africa will definitely WIN!!!
@tlhaketaioe1601
@tlhaketaioe1601 3 ай бұрын
They know we were going to send, Floyd, or Mbuyiseni, Julius, even our Spokesperson was going to mob the floor with them.
@williamshakur8715
@williamshakur8715 3 ай бұрын
And turn tables over to much violence party
@thembanimgenu190
@thembanimgenu190 3 ай бұрын
How do you know they were not invited 😅
@velaniludidi5886
@velaniludidi5886 3 ай бұрын
Remember the EFF barred Daily Maverick from their events. The EFF does not speak to Daily Maverick, it was impossible to invite them
@thembanimgenu190
@thembanimgenu190 3 ай бұрын
@@velaniludidi5886 I think EFF people must go to sleep on events such as these. The EFF is also not participating in some of the podcast platforms so nje mabalale/basele utywala.
@neoqwabe8581
@neoqwabe8581 3 ай бұрын
"South Africa here is your coalition government" (Lamola, 49:12)😂😂
@vinnydadomza...9591
@vinnydadomza...9591 3 ай бұрын
Why was the EFF which is the 3rd largest party excluded here?
@siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
@siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 3 ай бұрын
Some classes at school dnt need noise makers. Class,ethics and Class!!
@mmmotives7452
@mmmotives7452 3 ай бұрын
EFF most likely declined the invitation.
@GOAT676
@GOAT676 3 ай бұрын
They cut ties with the Daily Maverick so I heard so they may have declined the offer or just didn’t get any.
@himdamnself
@himdamnself 3 ай бұрын
EFF would have sent all of them packing
@GOAT676
@GOAT676 3 ай бұрын
@@himdamnself no they are a trash party
@autlali5115
@autlali5115 3 ай бұрын
Where is EFF ?
@expose_massive_banking_crime
@expose_massive_banking_crime 3 ай бұрын
Ja long time no see. Juju been in rehab?
@veronicakarstel9126
@veronicakarstel9126 3 ай бұрын
Destroying something somewhere
@balsak007
@balsak007 3 ай бұрын
​@@veronicakarstel9126😂
@markwainwright6243
@markwainwright6243 2 ай бұрын
ANC is really useless, thry created this mess
@CharlieMhlongo
@CharlieMhlongo 3 ай бұрын
Gayton is not a politician, he is a leader
@markwainwright6243
@markwainwright6243 2 ай бұрын
Leader of chaos
@MevCompany
@MevCompany 2 ай бұрын
@@markwainwright6243 ABAHAMBE, WHEN ARE YOU GOING HOME?
@markwainwright6243
@markwainwright6243 2 ай бұрын
Going jome after w​@@MevCompany
@markwainwright6243
@markwainwright6243 2 ай бұрын
@@MevCompany where is home
@GcinaTV
@GcinaTV 2 ай бұрын
@@markwainwright6243 😂 a blabbermouth.
@mzimkhulujita2965
@mzimkhulujita2965 3 ай бұрын
Gayton handled this horrible crowd
@mythoughts5170
@mythoughts5170 3 ай бұрын
There was nothing wrong with the crowd
@GB-ql8vm
@GB-ql8vm 3 ай бұрын
The truth is never plesent Da is living in la la land just like the ANC WHAT IS DIFFERENCE between THE DA AND ANC IN THIS 30 YEARS
@the_antiquark
@the_antiquark 3 ай бұрын
Gayton is the problem😂
@bernardwelff8089
@bernardwelff8089 Ай бұрын
​@@the_antiquarkyup he is a massive problem for the DA, Anc and Eff😊
@moafro722
@moafro722 3 ай бұрын
the fact that the EFF isn't part of this debate and that by Biz news is a disgrace. tomorrow when the EFF reaches above 15% the very panelists will be the very same people running to make coalitions with them. I mean how do you call the PA which is yet to contest national elections over the EFF. this is really disappointing!!!
@TshepoMotale-zq9sd
@TshepoMotale-zq9sd 3 ай бұрын
No you think too much to make that statement, let's hear new players and the view we know the EFF
@top-gnews8333
@top-gnews8333 3 ай бұрын
​@@TshepoMotale-zq9sd hey wena clever black IFP Is old here
@justhumble1
@justhumble1 3 ай бұрын
Well if you can check carefully it's the masters and their slaves and the EFF has not sold out our people so it's a positive that they are not here
@lindilemgqobele4337
@lindilemgqobele4337 3 ай бұрын
remember all of these are scared of EFF, that has been proven.
@tshidiso9653
@tshidiso9653 3 ай бұрын
Is DA and ANC new players
@sakkiekibido1665
@sakkiekibido1665 3 ай бұрын
Steven is so annoying. How can these host be making jokes about serious stuff. We as youth cant vote when these hosts and politician act like teenagers.
@wikussedze9292
@wikussedze9292 3 ай бұрын
Agree Steven is irritating and he clearly favours DA only.
@sakkiekibido1665
@sakkiekibido1665 3 ай бұрын
@@wikussedze9292 it is so clear.
@mythoughts5170
@mythoughts5170 3 ай бұрын
​@@wikussedze9292Sorry disagree there
@loyiso3335
@loyiso3335 3 ай бұрын
PA should consider reconsidering their stance on the Israel Palestine issue or they might lose votes. They could be neutral, if they have to
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202 2 ай бұрын
Why should international politics influence your vote at home?
@bernardwelff8089
@bernardwelff8089 Ай бұрын
PA wants a 2 state solution. That's neutral😊
@ntombifikilendlovu9918
@ntombifikilendlovu9918 3 ай бұрын
Ronald, After seeing n hearing you for so many times. You still fail to show me Why you are Justice Minister 🤔🤔
@expose_massive_banking_crime
@expose_massive_banking_crime 2 ай бұрын
considering whats going on at the masters office ...
@meridahmwase648
@meridahmwase648 3 ай бұрын
I agree with Mc Kenzie
@Artistsandlegends
@Artistsandlegends 3 ай бұрын
Haha why is the ANC included in this?! I love how the minister says we should hold the ANC accountable. That would be great!
@mpilompanza9101
@mpilompanza9101 3 ай бұрын
This is what South Africa needs. I'm happy that alternative media sees this gap and tries by all means to fill it . We need even more debates as well as Q & A sessions between average voters and politicians. This will drive our country towards the right direction.
@nkhetheni1
@nkhetheni1 3 ай бұрын
IFP leadership very matured, fit to lead coalition to the moon. DA is a no no.
@sakkiemisani1603
@sakkiemisani1603 3 ай бұрын
Sounded like IFP IS USELESS. They have no plan for creating jobs
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202 2 ай бұрын
@@sakkiemisani1603compare the IFP run municipalities in KZN to ANC ones. The former are significantly cleaner and more organised, they can be compared to any DA ran municipality
@JuiC30
@JuiC30 2 ай бұрын
Sorry, but facts don't lie, and don't care about feelings. DA run municipalities are running the Best, and for a number of years now......
@ZulumanNdodana
@ZulumanNdodana 3 ай бұрын
Without the EFF theres no debate.
@williamshakur8715
@williamshakur8715 3 ай бұрын
Eff is aggressive party they will turn over the table s
@christianKing101
@christianKing101 3 ай бұрын
But the debate happened without the EFF they are not respected enough to be invited in the first place, no one beside the followers of malema has respect for him
@sasha8664
@sasha8664 3 ай бұрын
Eff dont have self control.They will get aggressive and get violent...😂
@siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
@siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 3 ай бұрын
We dnt invite EFF on platforms like these,at times they behave like stray dogs,that are on leach.you can't walk a Mgodoyi on a leach,is going to bite you badly.
@zulub.r.u.h7846
@zulub.r.u.h7846 3 ай бұрын
Well we just watched a whole hour of a debate
@gysgijsbers4202
@gysgijsbers4202 3 ай бұрын
I have lots of HOPE for SA after this debate. It shows we can talk to each other as SOUTH AFRICANS first and foremost, even if we disagree on many things... ❤🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
@sihlenngcobo
@sihlenngcobo 3 ай бұрын
Gayton's energy
@user-od1hc9kp4g
@user-od1hc9kp4g 3 ай бұрын
Not only are they working illegally in the western cape they are in every corner of south Africa come to joburg they are in all the restaurants, Malawian in kzn are in hundreds
@mythoughts5170
@mythoughts5170 3 ай бұрын
Exactly, KZN is full of them
@bernardwelff8089
@bernardwelff8089 Ай бұрын
And Western Cape, time for Patriotic Alliance to step up and assist to get them home who are here illegally 😊
@ElPresidenteSA
@ElPresidenteSA 3 ай бұрын
MKP literally enjoys free marketing everywhere even in it's absence 😂
@mukuvaribrighton1586
@mukuvaribrighton1586 3 ай бұрын
Wow MASHABA.........If you know the value of money, you would not be doing the job that you are doing now!!!!!!
@WalterWhite-bc8ck
@WalterWhite-bc8ck 3 ай бұрын
Love Gayton McKenzie❤🇿🇦
@siphiwembiyela3886
@siphiwembiyela3886 3 ай бұрын
Steven favored the DA but couldn't stand the fact that the audience is leaning more on Mashaba and getting a round of applause with every statement he makes hence he ended up being personal but he found Mashaba up to the task. My feeling is that from all these guys we can get a decent government going forward
@terminator2846
@terminator2846 2 ай бұрын
He's white. Which is expected 😂
@sdeleligolide2585
@sdeleligolide2585 3 ай бұрын
Gayton mckenzie is a great men
@millarngel7
@millarngel7 3 ай бұрын
Steven was so biased and unprofessional, glad EFF didn't join this circus
@user-pr2pt5vm1j
@user-pr2pt5vm1j 3 ай бұрын
Coloured Community wake up. For too long we have been taken for granted. We are marginalized in Mzanzi
@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou
@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou 3 ай бұрын
Colored communities had better stand up,they cannot afford another 5yrs of being marginalised
@costaqwabe5683
@costaqwabe5683 3 ай бұрын
I doubt Gayton is the ONE...come to Action SA it's an inclusive party .. it's not a white or black party ..
@kopanokhumalo4344
@kopanokhumalo4344 3 ай бұрын
You are black
@lwandosambudla307
@lwandosambudla307 2 ай бұрын
Mckenzie I agree with you, it's easy we don't even need to stop them oh the road and ask for passpone instead we need to approach their employers to see if the employer is following the process of employment act, if not employer himself must face a penalty
@christinefinniss6263
@christinefinniss6263 3 ай бұрын
Gayton, the youth might not want to be gardeners and domestics.
@quintonmlambo9746
@quintonmlambo9746 3 ай бұрын
😊😊
@quintonmlambo9746
@quintonmlambo9746 3 ай бұрын
40:09 41:31 42:54 42:56
@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou
@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou 3 ай бұрын
Our youth had better wake up,no good standing line at the airport and the ship lifts anchor,get onboard
@williamshakur8715
@williamshakur8715 3 ай бұрын
We used do those jobs
@nicholasmasuku1501
@nicholasmasuku1501 3 ай бұрын
Gayton thinks black youth aspire to be gardeners, waiters and housemaids
@GaragePie22
@GaragePie22 3 ай бұрын
ANC think 6 million people earning R200 a day is an achievement, meanwhile you have 30 MILLION unemployed people! How stupid!!
@Ilovedoggie313
@Ilovedoggie313 3 ай бұрын
One can see from the comments section, that some people are more focused on bringing the opposition parties down than the ANC. The ANC gets full marks in this regard, they have created so many Orwellian sheep 😢
@EthanDavids
@EthanDavids 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for posting the video Really loved it !!!
@princetafarabhebhe5781
@princetafarabhebhe5781 3 ай бұрын
This debate just needed Floyd!!
@neodihamelamabuse4821
@neodihamelamabuse4821 3 ай бұрын
Indeed it needed superior logic.
@Sneezoboss35
@Sneezoboss35 3 ай бұрын
I love how Mashaba handled this Steven guy
@nobuhlemthembuassertivewom6177
@nobuhlemthembuassertivewom6177 3 ай бұрын
ActionSA makes sense for me. Herman Mashaba for President.
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