So the mob voting ended up going pretty smoothly, which is cool. Make sure to subscribe and join my discord! - discord.gg/WGc9UNM

I'd trade all other mob votes just for a utility update, faster rendering for java, inventory revamp, and further experimentation on jebs combat update

I feel like the entire idea of a "mob vote" only splits the player base and causes some short-term hype. At first, it was a cool and interesting idea. But now, so many people take it way too seriously and the burden on the developers has grown because they "must" implement all of the other shown features. Its a mistake Mojang has made before; they SHOULD NOT show anything unless it will 100% be implemented into the game, this includes mob votes or other votes.

To be honest they should add 3 votes per year -passive mobs -hostile mobs -biome votes

I think the worst part about the mob vote is the execution. The Phantom could’ve been a terrifying creature that forced players to sleep but they made it annoying and easy to get around. The Glow Squid could’ve added a new effect to the game and made it dangerous to go near and could’ve added dynamic lighting as well. I just really hope they don’t mess up the Sniffer.

To be honest, I kinda disagree on the very premise of a mob vote itself. A mob should be added because it furthers the gameplay, not because it won a vote. That goes for every feature in my opinion.

In the introduction video, the phantom looked like a genuinely cool concept, so obviously the public voted for it. The problem was that Mojang fumbled hard on the execution.

I do prefer the biome votes as it was a bundle of features instead of just one mob. As of now, I’d rather they focus on previous out-voted content rather than having more votes that add to the list of shelved features. However, with the Mangroves being okay and fireflies being removed I don’t know if Mojang would do them justice.

I'm hoping the new update is called "Relics of The Past" and in addition to archeology it also adds in all the forgotten mobs and biomes

I feel like the reason they're so vague with the options is because they're actually more concepts that they have, the votes decide which ones to develop further. Do agree with you on the losers being forgotten forever though, I've made the comparison before that when they say the losers "go to the ideas library" it feels increasingly like parents telling their kids that their pet "went off to a farm" rather than having to explain that they had to be put down

I honestly hope the bring back the biome vote because it was 100% the best type of vote.

I feel that they should do a rehash vote at this point, because as you stated a bunch of these mobs have interesting concepts. But they were never brought up again.

this guy just speaks facts while occasionally violating the glowsquid

with the camels that are gonna be added, i think it would fit very well if they were to update the deserts

I feel like Minecraft should do a biome update, where they would add all the yet to be added updates like the desert, savanna, and badlands.

My main issue this year was how unevenly stacked the mobs themselves were. 1. Rascal - a sort of fun hide and seek mini-game that could probably be farmed if it didn't only give sub-optimal rewards. 2. Tuff Golem - Portable Item Frame. 3. Sniffer - mob that gives new plants, meaning new building blocks for the thousands of builder Streamers/KZfaqrs out there. Ultimately I'm not surprised by the outcome this years vote.

Yes I definitely agree with the point of how mojang has taken a more “passive” liking with mobs, the main reason why i voted iceologer in 2020 was because it would be a new hostile mob that could drop a weapon or enchant. The mob we vote on has to get our attention. How often to players go out of their way to use allays? Some people even forget allays were a thing because of how they were implemented

I was just thinking about how there are pretty much no hostile mobs in the votes after 1.13. Kind of a shame that we aren't getting any new and interesting monsters to fight in these votes, just passive mobs that have very niche uses.

Finally an honest video, there's way too much forced positivity and excuse making around the Minecraft community when it comes to Mojang's decisions.

Ilmango (from Scicraft and many other amazing series) made a tweet saying that he would be more interested on voting a block instead of a mob. Even if he said it because he's a specialist on making farms, I think he has a point

Next mob vote is gonna just be 3 different golems

I've always felt (in the past few years) like they, in a sense, rig the mob vote by making one mob seem much better then the other two, like in last years mob vote where only the allay really had any practical use while the glare and copper golem were pretty much useless.

They didn't even update the swamp, they just added a a more crowded and just as empty feeling separate version

This is exactly how I feel. A lot of ppl in the community don't take the time to realize their decision helps shift the future of the game. Now ppl complain its too boring... We need to think shi through.

When I first saw the phantom I thought it was gonna be a mini boss that flies. Like a large stingray-shaped terror in the sky. The fight might end up similar to the ender dragon. That would’ve been pretty cool. Definitely not what we got.

I think the main issue with the mob vote is we don't get enough information about the mobs. For me I went with the sniffer because it most info about it told to us. With the rascal I don't think I'd enjoy looking for it and there doesn't seem to be a way to track which one you've encountered. So it would be possible to find 3 different ones and not getting anything while with the Golem I wouldn't want my item display to move

I felt like the Iceologer could be exclusive to snowy village raids.

I always desperately wanted icelogger and boss blaze mob . I think they should add those. I have always hoped for a update with just dangerous ,strong,hostile mob vote. I think because 1.20 is not a specialized update, what about a "forgotten update" where they add previously mobs which have lost mob vote but were real good . And few biomes too.

wouldn't it be funny if mojang added them all regardless

I think the desert may be getting updated, along with archaeology. “Deserts and Digging” coming soon?

I wish the mob vote kinda worked where the winning mob would be added in the next update, while the other mobs would be worked on slower but would eventually make it into the game

Ive constantly thought of an update called “Overworld Overhaul” which would be a huge update so I don’t mind it taking a long time, but it would also catch the game up on content in the overworld from lost contests, as well as a general revamp of foliage (trees, bushes, flowers, etc)

I think iceologer would’ve suffered the same fate as the others, being rarely encountered or forgotten, or not doing anything especially noteworthy. There’s nothing in ice and snow biomes, and one extra rare hostile mob won’t encourage average players to live or explore there. The stray is a common snow mob and is forgotten by a lot of players.

The next mob/ biome vote should bring back the runner ups and for us to see which we want back next.

I’d say they should stop doing the mob vote thingy. I get it, it is a way to get more interaction between the devs and the community but with all the postpone feature they have promised before… it would be a great idea to pack them all up and release it in a huge update, doesn’t matter how long it takes, we need the quality!

My biggest hope is they go back on their 2017 statement about the losing mobs be banished. Hopefully next year they have a joke vote with previous losers and when they have the winners card they tear it and say they will be adding everything in the next update. Then on the winning vote is added in the next update and the losing votes are added in the next two updates, adding 2 voted mobs/biomes in each update.

the thing about how were voting this year is, is that we dont see any numbers. they can make up any statistics & choose whatever winner they want. they revealed on twitter sniffer had 55% but i believe its more in reality due to its overwhelming popularity that seemed to pretty much be 80%

Sucks that the biggest game in the world only has enough man power to add 1 useless mob instead of 3

Your idea of having us be able to vote on the abilities rather than the mobs makes much more sense. I have not been thrilled with the few years for mobs and honestly have been unhappy with some of what has been added. If it does not add value, why add it?

i love how in-depth you go into these topics. you dont just complain about the mob vote but you provide reasons and how they should improve. really shows how much effort and research goes into this video. you should keep up this sort of video format as it is highly interesting. much love and thanks for covering this topic. ive been waiting for a mob vote video because its not talked abt much

My biggest problem with the mob votes is that most of the mobs don't seem like the fit they game. Instead of adding animals like giraffes, ostriches, ducks, or grizzly bears they make us choose between weird monsters that look like they were taken from some mod.

I think it would be cool if the Rascal dropped a bundle filled with some cave resources, as it would add an use for it if the bundle was uncraftable, while adding in some lore and explanation. The Rascal could be a lost miner, bored and looking for some fun, and giving you a bag of resources, with the real reward being nit the resources, but the bundle itself.

One of the reasons i dont play vanilla minecraft anymore is the lack of intresting hostile mobs that are challenging becuase you basically just fight the same mobs and the warden wasnt intended to be fought

1.21 update should be named "Lost in time update" and add all (or at least most) of the things that were promised/lost the mob/biome vote.

Does it seem like Mojang are contradicting themselves? They say that they listen and work with the community, but things the community as a whole have been asking for (like inventory and biome changes) have been completely ignored. The features that they showcased this MC live were cool, but aren't things that desperately need to be added. Thoughts?

This is legit the first video after the mob vote! Excited to watch!

It would be fun to see a compile of the rejected mobs in a vote kind of like a redemption thing then mojang can use past good ideas like the ice Oliger and then the Minecraft community is happy too with a new mob that was already liked

Once they mentioned how cute the mob is verses its function it was downhill from there

I find it funny that in 2020, moobloom wasn’t voted in (even though it had to do with new plants and a flower forest update,) and yet sniffer is basically the exact same thing but this time isnt a retextured cow, and it somehow won

only examples we need to see how bad these are is the phantom and the glow squid

also remember features from the 2017 mob vote made it into the game, most notably the grindstone’s enchantment removal from the great devourer

I feel like they improved some core parts of the mob vote this year. Getting the vote off Twitter and instead on various Minecraft platforms is a very welcome change, as it actually bases the results on what actual players want. Though the bedrock server is a little bit of a mixed bag. I personally didn't experience many issues beyond lag and at one point a majority of the map didn't load in, so I got to see the rest of the seed. There was a village underneath, as well as a beautiful area with rivers and mountains. Which I thought was kinda fun to see. Made me wonder if they picked an existing seed or used custom terrain generation and even if it's just a skybox or not. But once the map had fully loaded in, i could do everything again. However, there was one thing that I think should be patched. I've joined the server several times throughout the day and I could vote every single time. One or a few people vote spamming by constantly joining and leaving could skew the numbers pretty badly and it wasn't clear to me if every time I flicked the lever upon rejoining, another vote would be added to the total or if it just confirmed i had voted for that one. I think it's the first option, because no other stats from your account's previous visit would be saved. As soon as you exit the server, your stats from the minigames are wiped clean. I assume the mob votes are saved, but there's no system in place that prevents you from voting again. And if the votes are not saved, then it's literally useless to vote through the server. So that needs to be fixed, otherwise the vote through server option will bring a lot of issues. I also think It's a good change that they have switched to a 24 hours voting window so that every player in the world has the ability to vote, making it clearer what the community as a whole wants, not just the westerners and people who stay up late. It also felt like the mob vote was very much rigged this year, which made it much less exciting. Most people voting will vote for the one with the most potential, the best overall utility and what it will add to the game. The golem was the least voted for, which corresponds to it's only uses being already fulfilled by armor stands and item frames. Aesthetic was not enough of a reason to vote for something we pretty much already have. The rascal was in second place for total votes. It's hide and seek mechanic seemed interesting, but it was unclear how they would implement it. And it's utility was not very clear either. It could give you a reward, but it's not specified what possible rewards you'd get. It had good potential, but almost everything about it was vague and not very well defined. The sniffer won, which corresponds to it being full of well defined potential. You can find its eggs in ocean monuments, it finds seeds for you, the special seeds come with new plant life and it might grow into a bigger variant. It's aesthetic is also pretty different from any mobs we already have. While the golem looks like old news and things we've seen before and the rascal looks like a weirdly deformed villager, the only vague similarity the sniffer has is questionably to the turtle. And even then, they're vastly different. From the moment each mob was announced, it was clear to most people that the sniffer would win and that the others were mostly just puppet candidates. They weren't there to win, they were there to make people okay with the sniffer being added. Which makes no sense. Because if they had added the sniffer either way and instead had a different mob for the vote in it's place, the vote would've been much more balanced and interesting. In all honesty, last year's vote was also kinda rigged. Which gives us a pattern for what kind of mobs they give you the option to vote for: a mob with very little use to the majority of the community, a mob with a very specific niche and a mob that's useful to a vast majority of players. I hope that next vote we get three legitimate candidates.

There should be a mob vote, where the 2nd place winner for every past mob vote can be voted on.

A very important video for the quality of life surrounding Minecraft's communities, keep up the great work!

I like your videos for one thing, Controversial yet correct and straight to the point opinion. I love how you focus on the negative and positive side of things.

Was surprised that the Tuff Golem got eliminated first, though.

I wish all the mobs were in the game. That would be so cool.

if you fused the rascal and sniffer you'd get something that would resemble scp 682

The fact that Mojang's official server for their own game got hacked so easily is kind of a huge red flag...

Totally agree. I think it would also be awesome to like you said with alternating mob votes, also for example every 3rd time we get a biome vote. Another thing could be “Update Votes” where we could vote on a whole update instead is 1 measly mob that does nothing for most players

they should make it so that the 2 other that didnt win just gets push to later update. not just deletes them

Surprised you didn’t mention everyone that thought the allay duped items

I agree with your point on having the mob voting a bit earlier since i am from asia it usually takes place midnight and i cant attend cuz school very nice video and keep it up

The swamp biome didn’t get an update, it got a better version of itself added to the spawn pool alongside it

They should add the top 2 instead of just the first one

sniffer was bound to win at the beginning lmao i have more likes on a comment than epics comment

When you say “no pressure” *that feels like your pressuring me, even though I am subscribed*

for almost every vote, i've had a "none of these improve the game" thought so your solution to vote on a mechanic is pretty ingenius honestly

next mob vote: red chicken, pink cow, blue bat

The mob vote on the website did have a brief server error that would tell you an error had happened and that your vote was not saved. Fortunately, it was fixed.

I've been wanting for awhile to see the runner up biomes get readded to another biome vote. Sure, technically not new, but we'd be guaranteed one of the biomes getting updated with said features.

My biggest issue is the lack of information on some of the mobs. Like this year the Sniffer won because the video essentially promised new flowers and not because of the mob itself while the Rascal and the Tuff Golem is just the mob itself and doesn't mention additional content... it's not a fair vote.

IMO, it’s a good idea not to add all of them because people are already upset that they add so much useless mobs, people would get sick of 3 every update

I think what they should do is revolve an entire update where they implement all the ideas that lost in the votes over the years, mobs, biomes etc. But I could see it being a pain to do since they'd be so much to add, but at that point it'd be their own fault for leaving the biomes and mobs out the game for such a long time and continuing the votes every year like normal

I really don't understand why they do things the way they do... Like WHY don't they prioritize the features they already promised instead of cranking out new ones out of the blue?

It'd be cool to also have a structure vote, winning structure gets updated. It always bugs me and still does as to how there is some structures in the game that have not gotten a proper revamp since release 1.0, Yes I'm looking at you Strongholds/Nether fortresses.

In terms of mobs I sometimes have a feeling that Alex (creator of Ice and Fire and Alex's mobs mods) can do a better job singlehandedly or with a couple of teammates than a big team of professionals who's job is to update minecraft

They should just make it so that the unvoted mobs go to the next mob vote, so that they only have the code 1. This makes it easier and faster. They could also just only add one. You get 1 or 2 new ones, and 2 or 1 old ones.

You’re the only person I’ve seen on KZfaq criticizing the mob vote at all so that’s awesome. I wish more people would call Mojang out for the whole concept. It’s honestly lazy that they dork end up adding all of the mobs or even show examples of them in game before people vote. They don’t do a lot to help the image of being one of the laziest developers in gaming.

I wish this video was positioned more as a "how Mojang could improve the mob vote" rather than having a big issue. I know it's a more interesting title and gets more views, but the whole video comes across so entitled, even though you had some really good points

I wonder if Minecraft will try to hold a Legacy Poll for all past mobs, the increasing frustration makes it seem like a plausible thing to do and I think it would generate a lot of positive publicity. Especially if executed over a longer period of time and giving us the reassurance that the top several will be added in the next update full stop.

Can you really trust the developers of a product that scrubs the name of its creator off the project? No, you can't.

Waited a year for a so called "Glowing" squid, then another for a flying allay that I have never encountered till now, and now some weird dinasour that doesn't look too interesting, Minecraft mob vote's became boring.

Seeming as Mojang announced the addition of the camel in 1.20, I’ll be disappointed if they don’t add the desert biome vote update.

Sniffy boi

In his introduction video, the glow squid had many fearures that didnt made it to the game: Hypnotising, lighting, etc.

I agree. Since most mobs in mob votes had specific themes, not all players would see the new mob frequently (example: if a cave mob won a mob vote, players who don't go underground much would almost never see the new mob). What I'm saying is it is a good idea to add all 3 mobs (if Mojang's able to) so that a wider variety of players can enjoy the distinct mobs, like how in 1.20 there was something for everyone to enjoy, from lore to customizing armor to exploring a brand new beautiful forest. I'm glad Mojang's learning from their past mistakes :D

The mob votes most of the time add very little and most of the time also have shit mobs

I think the losers ideas they actually cared about will be reintegrated in different ways like how mob C "the great hunger" became the grindstone... they were likely thinking about having a water mob (that ended a later mob vote) a mob in the nether (became the strider) and a way to remove enchantments from weapons and armour (became the grindstone)

All I want is an optimization update. My computer is pretty decent all things considered, and it still occasionally has problems. What good are all of these features if your computer won’t be able to support them? Or also an update where they add stuff that they said they were going to. It could be called the “catch update”

I would actually do this : if there's 3 mobs to choose then the second highest will win because the highest is always the one boosted by random KZfaqr but second one is often voted by smart players that see the usefulness in the game

I felt that If the Rascal were to have a use, it would probably be over limit enchantments (Example: Fortune 4 pickaxe)

after notch left and microsoft buyed it, i think Minecraft just went downhill from there.

Mojang: The mobs that lose the vote will be banished from the game forever! Modders: * maniacal laughter * you fool!

Hey what mod did you use to add in the meerkats?

I agree. But can we also talk about with how long these take to implement when moders can get all them created in a couple of days

No one is happy with them, I think they were scared when no one liked the phantom, a more or less, game changing mob which I wish we had a bit more of

Any time the internet gets to vote on something, it will always go wrong

I think the reason that the previews are so vague is they tend to be early in dev at the time, and as playresting they decide that some features just don't work. For example ocean travel might become near impossible when you keep being forced to look at a glow squid for a bit like there teaser said. Voting on specific mechanics instead makes a lot more sense. Though the ability to full bright signs and item frames form the squid is VERY handy.

The sniffer was just better since it had the most detail