Steel Vengeance’s Flaw: The fact that the bumper car mode isn’t always on and only a select few have gotten to experience that.

Dude, squere wheels are defenetly better than triangles, that would be even nastier bumps!

The only flaw I can think of with Steel Vengeance is it not being at my home park, though I would love to see them try and fit it in.

Not having one at Carowinds, that’s the biggest flaw

"This is a coaster channel: There's ALWAYS something to complain about. This is why everyone hates us". Spoken like a poet!

I would say Steel Vengeance's biggest flaw is the first drop. It's tall, and it's vertical, but it starts to lose slope like a third of the way down. Steel Vengeance is the best coaster I've been on, and that's a testament to how good the layout is, because the drop hasn't done it for me so far. Imagine if it went down into a tunnel like Raging Bull and shot back up to the top hat. Also, the back row on Twisted Colossus is stronger over the lift hill than the back row on Steel Vengeance. Not sure why that is, but on Twisted Colossus, it feels like you're getting ripped over the top in the back. I think Steel Vengeance is awesome name, especially considering other RMCs. They easily could have just gone with "Iron Streak".

First half of the video: legit complaints Second half of the video: Chris being an Enthusiast

Flaw with Steel Vengeance: It’s too good. It tops everyone’s coasters lists and just makes videos predictable.

Steel Vengeance Flaw: The noise level of the lift hill 😂

Steel Vengeance Flaw: You may go deaf on the lift hill.

Wicked Cyclone is running really well this year, no pacing issues with that last half lap and a ton of ejector

The biggest flaw in RMC’s are the large queue lines😔

RMC has been improving a lot with new big thrills! I hope they still continue them by the next decade! 👍👍👍

3:47 a guys hat flies away in the wind LOL

3:46 Shoutouts to the person that lost their hat on Joker

"Gumming you.....like a toothless old lady" - this is why I love your channel, your sense of humor comes through with your roller coaster love! (I almost spit my drink out!)

To me RMC’s biggest flaw, in general, is the lack of positive g’s on their rides. I like a good mix of intensity on both ends of the spectrum; however, I understand the decision to not include high positive g-force because it may be really bad for the wooden structure.

My nitpick with steel vengeance is the no stuff in your pockets rule

The obnoxious decibel level of the lift hill while waiting in line is my flaw for Steel Vengeance. Otherwise, flawless

The flaw with Steel Vengeance was the reliability and maintenance issues. The first year it was down a lot like Lightning Rod, and they were constantly replacing and fixing the supports for it, which is why Cedar Fair has no other RMC projects in the works...

Steel Vengeance has plenty of flaws: Ride itself: The first speed hill does nothing The hard left into the midcourse requires defensive riding (holding on / preparing yourself). The final run of bunny hills requires defensive riding (holding on / getting the lapbar right for the whole ride, something) Experience: Besides that it has operational issues limiting it to 2 trains and horrifically slow dispatches (I don't think these have been resolved?), and has had structural issues (which I think were mostly resolved after the 2018 season). It's basically impossible to ride it without waiting 30+ minutes even with fast lane+. The locker policy was a stupid cash-grab, especially when Mean Streak used to have station bins AND it caused people to have to wait 3+ hours without their phones... But it's biggest flaw is probably that it's the main contributor to the strained the relationship between RMC and Cedar Fair that hasn't produced any additional rides. While Cedar Fair only has a few decent conversion candidates hanging around, they definitely have several parks that could benefit from raptors (standard/mirrored or custom) - it's shame we haven't gotten to see that come to fruition. That said it's still my #2 overall, it's just not the "flawless" hype-fest people seem to heap on it.

Steel Vengeance’s biggest flaw is that it ends.

RMC’S I’ve ridden: Railblazer: over the shoulder restraints and it’s so short Joker: Back and front are the only good rows all the rest are not very good. The elements aren’t the best either twisted colossus: almost perfect but it never Duels when I ride

You should try riding wicked cyclone in the rain, it was literally the best ride I’ve had on it because it’s way faster than usual

Biggest flaw on Steel Vengeance: Lacking airtime

by the time Iron Gwazi opens it won't be the tallest, fastest, or steepest RMC hybrid 😭😭😂

Twisted Cyclone in 2019 at Six Flags Over Georgia, other than it being a quick ride, it was very intense, thought it was great, luckily my granddaughter and I road it back-to-back. no line to wait, it open up after being shut down for rain.

Every RMC's biggest flaw: Terrible claustrophobic restraints that stop any airtime for us tall folks

SV is a relentless coaster...and an architectural engineering awesomeness to watch

I love rolling so slow through that last inversion on Wicked Cyclone and the last few off axis hills still feel ridiculous no matter the speed.

“That’s why everyone hates us”. If only Skynet was this chill when it became self-aware

I definitely agree that outlaw run's biggest flaw is the roughness. I rode it first in the back row and the forces were amazing, but it was super rough. My second and third rides were in the second to back row, and the forces were just as good but it was nowhere near as rough. My new #3 behind Maverick and Steel Vengeance (i've only ridden the coasters at CP, KI, SDC)

Steel vengeance hurts my thighs from airtime when riding over and over again

I've only ridden twisted cyclone, and just rode lightning rod for the first time this past Monday, and I stay 5 minutes from Fun Spot ATL, ready for the new RMC

Steel Vengeance’s flaw is that every second of airtime just feels forced and painful. It doesn’t help they they’re stapling with the already painful RMC lap bars

I agree with you on the Raptor restraints. The lap bar is all that's needed, plus it's very easy to whack body parts on them.

For me the flaw with Steel Vengeance is the lack of a stand out element. The overbank was good but I really didn't feel like there was a single element on Steel Vengeance that was super unique. Iron Rattler has it's twisted drop with a headchopper and dive off the wall, Lightning Rod has the quad down...Steel Vengeance has Speed...and Height...and Length. Not that it's bad. Still a top 10 coaster for me but it didn't blow me away or live up to expectations.

Untamed is right up there with Steve for me in basically having a perfect layout

There should be an RMC raptor with at least 58 seconds of ride time and lap bars instead of vest restraints. It would be awesome to see all 3 RMC models in the same amusement park.

Here, I’m going to update this for ArieForce One: There are two flaws on this ride. Firstly the Quad down hurts a lot for your thighs. Provides good air though and you can mitigate it. However I think the bigger flaw is the brake run. It stops you at a super fast deceleration rate and while you can brace for it, it still delivers quite the big sucker punch Anyway the ride is fantastic my #1 so far

I’d say that Vengeance’s big flaw is that it’s a magnet for packets of Hot Sauce and flying seat backings

I just got back from Cedar Point and the mid course slowed you down on Steel Vengeance all three days I was there. Don’t know if it’s a summer thing or what.

The one thing I dislike about SV is the sudden jolt right as the train enters the mid course brake run. Felt painful to me on all my rides, but just that bit

Great vid Chris. Every time I go to SDC, I hear everyone praising Outlaw Run as one of the best RMCs in the world, and I still dont understand why. IMO its an unbearably rough ride that has airtime but a rough experience and bad restrains.

Honestly, the only flaw with Steel Vengeance is the speed hill right after the drop. You would think that flying over an airtime hill at maximum speed would deliver ridiculous ejector airtime, but it's the mildest hill on the ride. And this is the tiniest complaint possible because the rest of the ride is coaster perfection.

Btw the reason why your shoulders dig into the strap on railblazer is because you are taller, so the restraint digs into your shoulders more. I went on railblazer as my first RMC, and I found the shoulder restraint extremely comfy. Love ur yt channel tho. Keep it up!

3:48 the sunglasses coming off😂😂 (or visor I can’t tell)

Steel Vengeance was a little rough for me in the turn after the stall, before the brake run. That pop of airtime and the lateral force from turning left real quick made me hit the side of the seat and bruise my ribs 😫🙃 I'm very tall and I might have been positioned a bit weird tho so 😅

The only flaw I would give Steel Vengeance is the small bit of rough lateral throwing you into the person next to you as you pop into the mid course break run. Not because laterals aren’t fun in their own way, but because it seems to break character for RMC which normally has high quality banking. It’s so hard to even call that a flaw though.

Great vid and maybe SF can increase the lift speed on Iron Rattler so it has some extra speed to start instead of slowing the lift down as the train crests.

I knew that TC (home park RMC) would be short. There are just so much RMC’s that are short out there!

Man, slick transition into the name discussion with "from the archives."

Jersey Devil is getting reprogrammed to fix the Mid-Course Run stopping the train completing, and Jersey devil fixed them the shoulder straps have give to it

Steel Vengeance's flaw is the snappy turn right before the mid-course brake run. It's always felt a little too sharp for a ride with such smooth elements

3:45 that guys hat flew off😂

I rode Wicked Cyclone about 3 weeks ago, and it was absolutely hauling through its third lap.

3:48 the hat that flew off lol

0:16 to 0:21, truest statement ever made on any coaster channel, ever. Your channel and El Toro Ryan are the only two I can tolerate and actually enjoy because you two actually "get it" and have great content. I am also 100% in agreement with you on Storm Chaser, I absolutely Love that ride and my only single complaint at all is its a little on the short side, but as you said Im stretching and reaching to even justify that. I was very fortunate to have my first experiences on it Labor Day of 2020 when the park was very lightly populated, and marathoned it for an hour+, and it was one of my best park experiences.

The leg bar bothers me on Steel Vengeance. That’s THE ONLY thing.

3:47 watch yo hat bro WATCH YO HAT

My flaw with Steel Vengence is the ejector is a little too painful

I agree Steel Vengeance is a dumb name, but for me, the trims on the midcourse did slow the ride down, making the second half less intense than I was anticipating. It didn't ruin it because there were some awesome airtime moments and headchoppers mixed in, but that's how it ran for me in 2019. Otherwise SV is basically flawless

my issue with SV actually is something i’ve never heard anyone complain about, and it’s rly weird and specific. the stall just has a weird feel to it. i rode it 4 time less than a week ago and it just felt kind of jerky. and i could literally hear the wheels like snap upside down and then right side up again. it just feels awkward and a little jarring to me

Hurler:Twisted Timbers is my home RMC! So glad I have had the chance to ride both! :)

In general RMC's don't have great capacity for how popular they are. That would probably be the biggest flaw with Steel Vengeance, contributing to the terrible line. Another factor is the way operations are with the seatbelt and lap bar and having to check both separately. I operated Joker for about 4 weeks and those restraints were my least favorite to check out of all 11 rides I've operated.

My issue with twisted timbers and storm chaser is that the twisted airtime just kind of jerks you around in a kind of uncomfortable way

SFoT is my home park and when Texas Giant was redone it was absolutely incredible. But now that I see all of the amazing RMC overlays they’ve done since, I really wish they would come back to Texas Giant and spruce it up. I’m super jealous of these newer RMC’s

3:48 HAHAHHAHAH that guy lost his hat in the back row, I feel that

One Steel Vengeance flaw: The mid course actually slows down the train...

Steel Vengeance's only flaw is the painful excuse they call the restraints. Unfortunately, it kills the ride experience for me.

I'm a new enthusiast that moved from So California to Iowa. Just before I moved I got a chance to ride Twisted Colossus my one and only RMC. (So far) but that one coaster made me an RMC fan. Thanks for all the great content!

Limited RMC experience here. But the one thing I don't like is the mini-airtime hills. I like big, smooth airtime, not "bucking bronco" attempts to throw me out of the seat. Very thorough analysis here. Thank you!

Easy flaw for steel vengeance, the queue when the park first opens for the season. They don’t have the shades up, it hits almost 90, with little breeze in between the tracks. then you have to put your articles in a locker, THEN you can ride. It wares you out quick, especially with the wait times.

Loved the throwback at your previous countdown

I feel you on the Twisted Colossus lift hill, but I think it's tied together with the racing point. The biggest flaw for me was not building a double station that could reliably dispatch a train every 60-70 seconds. It was never a realistic goal for SFMM to get that kind of dispatch time from one station. And consistent double races aren't even physically possible without running 4 trains.

The flaw on Steel Vengeance is those little ejector hills ( I call em bunny hills ) at the end of the ride. One ride hurts,multiple rides in a short time frame is a killer.

I might as well inform you about Jersey Devil. Bear in mind my rides were in the early afternoon in a moderately rainy day, about 70-75 degrees. To me, the biggest flaw about Jersey Devil is the tameness of the ride (it’s barely top 3 in the park imo), especially after the midcourse. Flojecter airtime at best after the first drop (which is amazing in the back, not better than toro’s but still crazy), lack of positive g’s, lack of good whip aside from the entrance into the dive loop (only in the front), and the midcourse absolutely killing the speed of the ride. The only good element after the midcourse is the speed hill, which delivers some decent floater. Also the ride’s currently closed right now because Six Flags. Rumor is they’re fixing the computer system on the midcourse, but I can’t confirm anything.

I’m not gonna get to ride my first RMC until next month. As someone who values airtime above all else, this makes me sad. But being a dad of young kids means I had to take a break from most coasters until they got older. That said, Twisted Timbers next month and I’m trying to plan multiple trips to hit others with a much needed visit to OH on my list. So my biggest flaw for these and all coasters really is getting to them!

Steel vengeance’s flaw is either that the restraint come down more then other rmc’s or that the mid course slows the train. I’m surprised he’s never had it hit cause both my rides this year it hit HARD

Not having one at magic mountain atm is the biggest flaw of them all, but no fr lol six flags magic mountain is currently working on their new rmc raptor, set to open in 2022

Funnily enough, I'm going to Great Adventure today. Never rode a single rail coaster before, so I'm excited.

For NTG being the only rmc I've ridden. Its the dispatches for me. On my last visit they were dispatching like every 4 min and stacking the second train

"this is why everyone hates us" ...oh no, they have become self aware!

Yeah, Lightning Rod was running pretty good when I was at Dollywood, and it was VERY smooth.

3:47 lol at the person in the last row that lost their hat thing.

3:47 Someone looses their hat!!!

if you ride in the front of goliath at sfgam you get great airtime on those turnarounds and a great pop of lateral ejector when you enter the breaks

This video is a masterpiece, Chris. The humor is fantastic. Love it!

Steve's biggest flaw is that RMC overestimated Mean Streak's structure. Cedar Point has had a nightmare maintaining the ride as the forces on the wood are a bit more than it can comfortably handle long term. They've had to do significant structural work on the coaster in order for it to be safe for years to come. While this problem didn't affect riders at all, it did damage Cedar Fair's relationship with RMC. That's why there aren't more of them at CF parks. That affects riders more than a long queue ever could.

Regarding Steel Vengeance- I hate the restraints. They way the lock your legs in is uncomfortable.

Steel Vengeance's flaw is that it set an extremely high bar for future RMCs. It could honestly hurt the company in the long run because of how every RMC conversion in the future will end up being compared to it.

The biggest flaw on Steel Vengeance is reridability. If you ride it several times, some marks will start to appear, espicially on your thighs.

Though Steel Vengeance is still my favorite coaster of all time, I have felt the trim before. It was at night after a long, hot day, but I can understand why they trimmed the speed a little, as it was ejector air throughout the first half that I have never experienced, to the point of almost feeling dangerous. Now don’t get me wrong, the second half still had crazy ejector.

With Steel vengeance the air time isn't as aggressive as other RMS's, and twisted timbers is that from the end of the first drop and the first Camelback, there is a full 10 seconds without air time

Steel Vengeance's biggest flaw is undoubtably the phone policy

Zadra’s biggest flaw: It opened ahead of schedule even though it partially collapsed. 😂

If you don't mind the 2nd lift hill slowing down the train on twisted colossus then maybe the only flaw being how the 0g roll kind of pushes you forward in a wierd way.

"The biggest flaw with Steel Vengeance is those bunny hills at the end.

I think the biggest flaw with almost all the RMCs is the train design that doesn’t allow the seat belts to be checked after the lap bar goes down. That alone slows down dispatches so much.

My biggest flaw with Steel Vengeance is the quantity over quality approach to the airtime. Not saying that it doesn't have great airtime, I'm just saying that it's a little bit weaker than it could be, and the just the sheer amount of small bunny hops feels kinda repetitive from what I remember