the biggest problem in tft is really just that Mort doesn’t kiss me

The best part of TFT is that that Mort isn't appearing out of thin air to kiss me. Now that's hardcore gameplay.

so fucking true

It's because you aint Morts homie, everyone knows Mort gives his homies a little kiss

If I didn't hit and the game always gives me different garbage I curse mort everytime 😂

I still think exalted could become a permanent fix for it, but the exalted pool should be heavier around more 3-5 costs less into 1-2 costs to make people use those (higher cost) units more, indirectly will empty the pool bags as well. And perhaps slightly buff the 5 trait.

Yeah this is a very good "we're looking into it" kinda announcement

It’s not always about being contested though, that’s what mort is saying. If you’re playing a three cost reroll it obviously helps to be uncontested, but it also helps if other three costs have been pulled by other players cos it lowers the total bag size for all three costs

I don't want to be too negative but I'd like to point out how bad that feels for everyone else in the lobby even if they aren't making a reroll comp. One guy started building 3 costs? Okay now its hard to two star any of my 3 cost Frontline and furthermore for everyone contesting the person on the same unit it becomes even harder if they're behind the 1st player

@@kirinashia567thats not how this solution works though. Currently if 9 yones are out, it is easier to hit 2 star ammumu. With the proposed change the likelihood of finding 2 star ammumu is the SAME regardless if 9 yones or 0 yones are gone.

@@atedj0632 Your reply skips what happens when someone (including yourself) is buying the same unit, which you'd think would be the same as if it was missing from the pool. But, rather than searching a pool with copies of your unit missing, now, when any 3 cost is bought and you roll onto them, you may get a 1 cost in that slot under the proposed change. To simplify things, if there is 1 amumu remaining 1 yone remaining that you want and everything else on 3 is purchased, you now have needles in a haystack where you have to roll 2/entire pool, whereas a depleting pool would just give you the remaining if you roll a 3 cost. Yes, your chance to land on any theoretical single copy stays the same as its 1/entire pool. But as everyone buys, rather than 17 copies going to 16/203 (current system) it's 16/204(proposed system). Lets say there's 9 yone 6 amumu out, and you want either one. You now have to land on 19/204 rather than 19/185. The pool never shrinking means that you get extra failure chances that did not exist before. Even if nobody else buys any 3 costs besides you your odds are worse. You need to roll 17/204, 16/204, 15/204 to get 2 star amumu. Under the normal system you'd roll for a 17/204, 16/203, 15/202. It's only true that the system odds don't change if your unit(s) remain completely untouched and you want only 1 copy. If you ONLY want 1 amumu and someone buys 9 yone, yes, that does not affect your odds, since you are still the same 17/204 whether or not the yones are missing. Edit: Not to mention.... you missed that the original post comment even said themselves that they want it to be: "when people reroll 3-cost, they make it less likely for all players to encounter 3-cost". Maybe you don't have any 3 cost, now if you land on an already bought 3 cost it isn't even going to be a 3 cost anymore.

@@kirinashia567 Let's say you have a 50% chance to get a 3 cost, and there are exactly two three costs in existence, A and B. If you're rolling for A, you have a 25% chance to hit it. So far so good. Now let's say someone else buys B. In live, you'd now have a 50% chance to get A, because if you get a 3 cost it must be A. In this proposed change, you'd still have the baseline 25% chance to roll A, but the 25% of the time you rolled B would become a reroll, which would also have a 25% to get A. Do a little calculus and you get a result of getting A a third of the time. Having B out of the pool still raises your odds of getting A, just not as much.

@@driftwisp2797 the problem with your idea of getting another chance upon rolling B to get A is that you're assuming it's a 3 cost again. This is false, the proposed change said the reroll would be open to all tiers, so your failed 3 could become 1/2/3/4/5. And because there are FAR less units in any given cost pool than all units of all cost pools, the reroll is likely going to be far less chance to get A than C. Not enough to even offset the fact that you aren't diluting the pool as I mentioned with my fractions in the prior comment.

It's prob some background code prob reducing randomness in shop chances. They tried this once and rolled it back super fast a few sets ago. So who knows. Maybe it's bag size revamp.

@@hueyyang10 : But that is very difficult to convey in UI or to make sense to players. The only thing that I can think of is that you don't pull from bags of X cost units but in brackets of bags but even that is hard to show to players. I'm working on an auto-battler myself, but all of our units are unique so we don't have that issue. Still very curious what they think will work and what they are testing.

@@StefanLopuszanski Yeah I think it's what you're saying. It would probably just be having the bags not be limited to the cost. So every 3 cost that's out of the pool makes it harder to hit a 3 cost. It would make it a little harder to hit your 3 cost reroll though.

That problem isnt solvable by an augment, what he says just happens every game

So go something else like yone 3. That’s literally called balance. Meanwhile the lux players will begin to struggle since they have less in the pool

That should be But usually both Lux Janna Players make top 4 Which Shows how strong (Janna) is

Low elo lobby. Do you know how many S tier comp are in this patch? A lot

@@traninhlong7303 ye but alot of Players are Not master or higher Alot of 4-2 gambling for your 4 cost And still in the worlds Janna Lux reroll saw some Play and good results So what exactly IS your Point?

Last patch over

Altruist is AMAZING they just don't make good carries. Idk what their values are now but 45 armor/mr for three alright units u were probably playing anyway is amazing

Altruist was one of the best trait during the all set

It is the best or second best splash trait in the set, why would it need a buff?

Because bigger bag sizes pushes the game away from being a draft game and massively decreases interacticity with other players. Its not an easy problem to fix.

The bag size changes were intended to make it harder to play a contested comp and they do that. It used to be if there was something really op top 4 was all the same board, now there is actually room for two other boards in top 4 that play uncontested and hit into the 4 people contesting each other.

Imo this punishes everyone unlucky way to hard. You already didn't hit your 3star? Well bad for you because the odds are now even worse for you.

It's okay to just play the game until you get bored and come back for the next set. They have to balance between people who don't want it to change all the time, people who do want it to change frequently, and how fast they can actually put out a set which is tough balance to find.

they added 100 copies of every champ in the pool at 4.5 revival on pbe and u saw so many 3 cost 5 star it was not fun.

how exactly would that solve this problem?

⁠@@Lunauwu331gives people a tangible reason to go 2 costs in particular as they are the least benefited by bag sizes when a particular unit of their cost is strong. Its obviously only a small part of the solution though

​@tighegilmore9202 The difference between 2 cost bag size and 3 cost bag size is not that big, so the same logic that applies to 3 cost reroll also applies to 2 cost reroll. Maybe it applies even stronger, since 2 cost reroll usually gets 2 to 3 champs on 3* while 3 cost reroll gets at most 2

Hero augments were terrible

Because while everyone "having" to reroll is Bad for the Game, Not evrybody being to able to force the comp they want it good for the Game.

No

I think that's one of the biggest skill expressions in TFT. Identifying when to give up your committed comp and pivot to another one.

When bad players can't complain about their team, they complain about whatever is available but assume skill issue.

@@krmunoz2169 oh dont get me wrong im not saying the game Is shit or anything i play it since open beta and Its the only game i play for that long im just saying that you can suffer from other people being idiots which really hurts sometimes but i do realize that the whole point of TFT is adapting to every situation meaning you also have to adapt to people being idiots if i didnt that would make me an even bigger idiot 🤣 but TFT definetly has one of the best developing team behind it and i support every step they do

you are not giving any control, it's all bs

And yet you gave away your soul to the 🤡 lord

Just play on mobile or emulator lol

So you also avoid any games with easy anticheat or BattlEye? Because 90% of people that say this don't realize how many games have kernel access. That said, I do agree kernel access anticheat is bad and should not be implemented, let alone happening at startup and without asking, while I'm not even running the game.

@@kirinashia567 it isn't the anti-cheat part i have a problem with, it is the kernel level access part and the fact that tencent is a chinese company microsoft is an american company and owns windows so it is unavoidable, but at least microsoft has to follow american laws.

Sounds like a skill issue

Nah, playing around getting contestet and buying stuff you see someone else is trying to 3stars are normal gameplay mechanics in the game.

Individual bags makes the game not a drafting game and changes the core fundamentals. One skill expression they want to encourage is going something others are not going. You can't really do that with unique pools.

If you go with Individual Pools, that means you have little to no reason to play anything but the strongest comp. The meta would become stale very quickly because you wont ever need to improvise or adapt. It suddenly becomes a game of pure luck and no skill.

That just takes out a fundamental component of TFT being a multiplayer game, as it just make severy player play in a vacuum and then go Stat check their board against others.

This has been talked about before, if you do that everyone will force the strongest comp always. You will only see 1 comp every game because everyone hit it without being contested. It lower skill ceiling but better experience for the for fun player who just force a comp

U fix 4 S+ comps dominating the lobby by making everyone play the same comp and the lobby is dictated by item spawns. Not a very good fix imo

So, just get rid of the only way to interact with other players? Sure, that'll make the game better

Let's say that one comp dominates then: Lux, janna, amumu, diana, zyra, morg, illaoi. I see 4 people rolling for this. Why on earth wouldnt I just go 8 or 9 and roll for units that counters thst comp? If I can find a counter-comp I will already win 4/7 matchups. I really don't think that everyone would go for the same comp, and if they do - whoops, Lux get a nerf..

Very surface level understanding that ignores the fact that what he's talking about existed before the bag size changes from last set.

@@antoniocalcano777 yes but he has a point. If everyone hates current bag sizes why not just revert bag sizes to see what will happen. It definitly wont break the game so just try it

​@@dachosens1 because they already know what will happen, they tried the old bag sizes for the majority of tft's lifespan.

Old bag sizes were bad. Too easy to 3 star stuff, you saw them in every other lobby. It's a very complex problem that doesn't get fixed just like that

@@GonzoMD1993_ nah, it wasnt easy at all. It was easy with the garbage headliner mechanic, which was why they changed it, but now, there are no headliners, but the bag sizes are still the same.