Just leave it 😂

The biggest mistake in my church is that they complain about the bad audio quality even though they have good speakers but someone for some reason thought it was a good idea to set the speakers facing to the ceiling and it sounds horrible

Speaker placement is also VERY overlooked in smaller churches, makes such a different when you understand how sound travels, vertical and horizontal coverage, and the size of your room.

I agree just leave it. Also the biggest issue I’m hearing here is that there is more than one designated sound guy and they’re letting people with no knowledge behind the board. That as bad as putting someone on keys in front of the Church that’s never played. If someone wants to be behind the board they are gonna need to study and show themselves approved.

Lmao on "Just Leave It" lmao 😂 Bro, you need to make that a Tshirt lmao 🤣

I fixed a sound once where the volunteer "chief" was simply boosting bass on the preacher vox and we were getting pops feed back etc.. terrible.. I fixed it in seconds, he ignored it and did it again... and thennn I got blamed for interfering... we need a lot of PATIENCE when leading with people in general... (making a long story short)

The biggest mistake is buying a mixer with Volume Knob instead of Volume slider

The way he cut back his own voice while moving the es knobs. Great attention to detail!

"keep it normal and just leave it" ok learnt alot ..thanks 😢😂

Hahaha! Thanks for your post! That's why I always say that there are Four types of people. He Knows Not and He Knows He Knows Not - Teach him. He Knows but Knows Not he Knows - He is Asleep, Awaken him. He Knows and He Knows that he Knows - He is Wise, Follow him. The fourth and the most Dangerous! He Knows Not and He Knows Not that he Knows Not!!! - Please Avoid Him.

In the end your ear is your best friend

Thank you for your suggestions Brother

It's not wizardry, you can just go by ear If it sounds good, it sounds good You don't need to know the why

Exactly I neede this for My Church but budget is very Low , please Sujjest ❤

Once a karaoke DJ left to use the restroom and I EQ'd their board to make people sound MUCH better! Immediately people noticed. LOL.

I actually do that job (with this exact mixer!) and I’m definitely a culprit of that on my early days 😅

That's not a "mistake," that's just lack of knowledge.

AND DEFINITELY DONT CHANGE THE PAN (if it is already at 12o'clock, if it is not at 12 o'clock then set it)

Hi, thanks for sharing. We really need help in our church. Can you help in any way please. Happy to get a tutorial. God bless.

Not everyone is a good choice to do sound. If you have no idea what eq does or general sound knowledge, or bad ears for what good sound sounds like or compression does, this position needs teaching. Not everyones wants t I rn into doing sound. You are providing an important part of the service. Be teachable. I have been doing sound and video for a long time. This video hit a lot of important ideals.

That “just leave it” was personal😂😂😂😂

Some church volunteers are not professionals like you. Their main goal is to serve God. Help them, educate them if you can. They're volunteers, meaning they don't get paid.

Churches are very known for having all the gear and no idea

Them folks dont like to research anything including sound systems. Oh well this is a temporary stop on the way somewhere else. Right....

that green nobs can adjust sound frequenzy green on the top is for "high" high tones like z zimbals 3500 hertz to 20k hertz in the middle they called it "mid" it produce vocals sound, and the green on the bottom can adjust the volume of the bass they call it "low" its for adjusting low mid hi that can produce my voice in the microphone, instruments, and music from the mp3 or phone laptop, going to mixer and transfer to speakers.

Lol, I've worked in service and people will send back mixers as faulty claiming "only the left channel works". You get the desk out of the box and you see all the knobs, including the pan knobs, turned all the way to the left. And then you're like "yeeee, we're dealing with a professional here".

Use your ears and not your eyes would be my first advice. Also make sure to research about low and high cut and eq settings as a starting point. Then when you think you know what you’re doing experiment from there.

The barely contained rage is real 😂

Thanks this is what i needed...😂

The same thing is happening in my church lol

Lol 🤣 that sounds exactly how I used to be😂😂.

Well THAT was helpful😂

funny story. i work at a camp with a theater venue for kids to showcase their talents. they have a nice ass soundboard, some very nice mics and nice speakers. only problem is NONE of them know how to operate that stuff nor set it up. There's always a problem with the mics giving so much feedback from small movements. I'm actually gonna ask if I could just go to the booth myself just to see whats going on, because im like 99% sure they're using the gain knob as volume and prob has every EQ effect raised high

Volunteers ? Lol my church had assigned members, some on payroll. If you didn’t know the basics you’re done😂 I had to learn basics and that got me my own permanent seat

Nah fr tho lucky the guy at my church is a pro he knows what he does and i lm lucky to know what they do

for a sound engineer the audio on this short is awful

There are some ppl that have a constant volume voice. Meaning you can play with the eq knobs. Other ppl are all over the place, in that case, leave the eq knobs alone.

I don’t add any be it as I don’t understand why I’m adding or taking away. I always get a professional to come set compression on our presnous board tho. It’s the only thing I like to add for our mix. To reduce the harshness if we get in to the -12 db range or a little higher

This is very bad advice. If you don't know what a knob does LEAVE IT LIKE YOU FOUND IT! Unless you are willing to play with it during sound check and see what difference it makes, and return it to where you found it, unless you can improve it. In most of the small churches I have helped at, (many of them over 30 years of church tech work), the channel eq tends to be set like it is to reduce feedback from bad system design, or make low quality or headset mics sound decent. If someone who knows nothing about the system starts resetting them to Unity, you may all of a sudden get horrible feedback from a bunch of sources, or nasty plosives from the pastor during the sermon, or bucket based sound from the headset mic. I know even if I have to sneak into the sound booth when no one is looking when I am visiting a church, I am usually able to reduce that constant feedback whine from the podium mic, and make the pastor's mic sound 10 times better with a few knob tweaks, and hopefully no one ever touches the eq again, but this advice destroys all that tuning, and is like setting the Main system graphic EQ, or System Processor back to Unity settings, and destroy the system tune. Now, if the system is set up properly, with a system eq and good crossover settings etc, high pass filters on the mics, than you should be able to zero out the channel strip eq and be good, and on the bigger churches I ran, I set up the system processor so that most channels got zeroed for every service, because you had different mics or different users in each channel each service, but the headset mic channel EQ was left service to service, because it was set up for the specific voice and mic combination, and we had one pack dedicated to the Head Pastor, and the Countryman needs very specific EQ, so it didn't get touched. But all the handheld stuff was zeroed as a matter of practice for every event, and then tuned in as needed for the specific users. But I was able to train everyone on the team, and was there for most services anyway lol But in the scenarios you are talking about, I can almost guarantee you that the same mics are left plugged in the same channels week to week, and no one is going to be adjusting for individual voices, and the chances they have a system eq or processor are very slim, so the channel strip eq is the only thing dealing with feedback frequencies or mic tuning, and thus should NOT be touched unless you already know what you are doing, and can get it back as good as it was, or better.

Can this mixer be used to control audio Livestream on iphones?

"They just don't know what any of these knobs do" Say that again! How can you have a job and not have a clue how to do it? What's more, if you know you don't know what those knobs are why not spend a little time playing with them until you're familiar enough to adjust it for the better? 😒

I do know what they are …. And that is exactly what i do… Tone knob (low pass filter) on the guitar, E on the gain stage 1 Tone knob in gain stage 2 Eq for the reverb, eq for the delay And 5 knob eq on the amp 1 and 5 knob eq on amp two… And all i do it turn them till they sound good… and depending of the venue they will end up in a different place…. And you tell me… it would sound better if i just leave the amp how they are if i otherwisely just push and cut where my ears want to

was on the road played keys in bands for years, and unfortunately too many sound men, it seemed were more concerned about how the knobs and faders Looled, rather than the what it sounded like

Thank you❤

nah cuz eq is literally the biggest issue in my church, if i dont eq it right i get feedback, or else it sounds terrible so i need to have eq 💀

Thats good advice, better still ask a guitarist.

If you DONT know how to touch it. Do NOT ever touch it. For the love of God.

Will changing the settings on this board remove feedback? I’m trying to help a very small church, now my church to figure out feedback issues that are very distracting…. It’s like a buzz

biggest mistake is see is not cutting low end on the speaking mics. boom boom with every breathe

Never boost any frequency for more than 3dB (1 tick) or cut any freq for more than 6dB (2 ticks)

This video is for you volunteers, listen up

Another common mistake I've seen in churches is that they'll mistake "bass", for "too loud" and turn the bottom end way down. Many, more traditional congregations will have a pianist as the lead, or maybe an acoustic guitar. That person will be highly regarded and the sound person will have them too high in the mix. Other instruments or singers will be mixed nearly out and the sound is awful. The perception is that it's too loud because of all the clangy midrange, but if they would warm it up with a bit more low frequency, it sounds less abrasive. Lots of smaller congregations with few people serving, and someone with little experience, or a bad ear, or just stubborn can make everyone's experience a bad one. Now if you go and approach the sound person be prepared for hurt feelings. Sometimes I think it would be easier with no PA system, or just the vocals coming through the PA. A decent musician should be able to balance their volume with the rest of the band.

Just leave it? O wow thats a mighty big ego pal

They all volume knobs😂 if u think about it

"What do all those green knobs do!" JUST LEAVE IT!😡

Learn if you don't know , if not Google it and study audio . Or your church will sound terrible. Volunteers are in need of training .it is not that hard. And their is rules.

Na bro you it all about what sounds good:) not the complicated ideas behind it. Have some fun and mess around with eq and stuff :)

I am curious too. I have over 50 years being around audio, and video, and would love a deeper dive than this short vignette. You wetted our appetite. Now time for the main course. Share the knowledge, or at least link a knowledge base to learn from. Rather than what is done incorrectly. Teach us the correct way. Talk about sound treatment, Real Time Analysis, Microphone placement, and much much more. House of worship is a cool place to learn, and grow, and serve the Lord too. I know, I've done, and have a new church, and will do more. I want to learn the Vista lighting system too. So much happening in the live Venue front of house, and back of house AV. You have a golden opportunity to shine. Just saying. Your move now.

what a waste of a short, at least teach them how to use it.

Sage advice ...

Good advice…….. aeh yo wa he said 👀🥴

The magic is in two mid nobs.

Don’t reset what you don’t know!!!!! Just don’t touch. Someone has been fighting with an untreated room. No eq and you might as well turn the system off

The main problem is Pastors. They want volunteers instead of paying a pro to run the sound.

Don’t scoop the mids

What About Reverb?

😮

What is that device called

Simple enough lol thanks

Nice

give me solutions, not problems

Hahahaha. Just leave it

You want to worry more gain too much you get mic feedback

Sounds like u might need a drink😂

People don’t want just advice they wanted knowledgeable advice. Okay , if they don’t know what these nobs do then make this a knowledgable video for them . Instead of telling them to put the frequencies knob to zero , help them learn . They adjust those knobs to produce the best possible sound acc to their ears and knowledge .

If it sounds good it sounds good 😂 🤷‍♂️

You don't have faith in the volunteers, god will tell you where the knobs need to be

Why y’all always have to emphasize “church sound”? It’s running sound. The church part is not relevant to how the board works

Hahahaha

Silly Jeebers Christmas followers All that love for the lord sure doesn’t help them 🤦‍♀️

And your Biggest Mistake here.. is you don't even teach what you know.... don't be selfish bruh...🙄🥴

I did your help please

You can simply fix it by not going to church. It really frees up your Sundays

So don't use the EQ to get a better sound? O... k. Garbage.

I used to turn those 3 knobs that way purposely cos I liked when it sounds like that and I knew it's function...

That's how you learn. By listening.

Nah biggest mistake is not knowing the gain knob from the fader. They put the fader on +10 and assume that is “max volume.” Then the audio is both quiet and distorted from the fader amp when the gain knob isn’t set correctly. That and 31 band EQs - nobody needs those things.

That was a stupid video not to mention uninformative

Thanks for the information