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@vinyleyezz 5 жыл бұрын
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@LouBoogaloo 4 жыл бұрын
Sooo what’s on the disc?
@LouBoogaloo 4 жыл бұрын
I’m on cell and can’t see label lol
@Warpedsmac 4 жыл бұрын
Some years ago a WWII veteran asked me if I could play 16" Armed Service Radio program transcription records recorded from live to air shows during WWII. I modified a Sansui FR10-80 turntable by using a piece of aluminium angle to move the complete tone arm away allowing the record to fit on the platter. I extended the headshell using a piece of acrylic screwed to the standard headshell and used a Shure 78 cartridge for some of the discs and a standard cartridge for others. Played at 33rpm, the tracking error was reduced because the tone arm was around 500 mm long etc etc. Worked fine, the sound quality of these WWII pressings was outstanding....the old man cried when he listened to them.
@marktubeie07 8 жыл бұрын
_Nerd trivia time folks:_ The 16" transcription discs would sometimes be distributed with 2 copies whereby disc 1 side 1 would be outside start and the second disc inside start. Why you ask? Well, turntable 1 at radio station would start with the outside start, then transition over to the second disc with inside start on turntable 2. This not only allowed the program to be continuous, but as we know the outside of a record can often be the noisiest or scratchiest, so by having side 1 finish on the inside and side 2 start from inside out, the signal to noise ratio would almost match the same and the radio listener wouldn't notice too much of a tonal difference when the sides changed over. Interesting ha!? I'm off to place a mug and t-shirt order Jarrett, nice one!
@loopshackr 8 жыл бұрын
What an arcane and cool idea - those old guys knew what they were doing. Another factor may be as (or more) noticeable than scratchiness: even on pristine discs, the outer grooves have more high-frequency response than the inner, so audio from the outer grooves tends to sound "brighter." For example, you might hear the effect on disk changeover (from inner grooves to outer) when you listen to an old multi-disc 78 album stitched into one track - sometimes it's a bit jarring.
@grahamh9788 7 жыл бұрын
tubeie07 makes total sense
@richardsoffice9176 6 жыл бұрын
Loopshackr is correct - a good example is the famous, is it the 1939 reissue of Benny Goodman's "Sing Sing Sing With a Swing / Christopher Columbus" recorded Live at Carnegie Hall. This is too long to fit onto one disc, and there is noticeable distortion as the sound on the first disc ends, and the second disc begins - the transition. As I recall, early 16" discs also ran at 78 rpm, still providing more valuable minutes!
@BillAnt 6 жыл бұрын
So my record is bigger than yours :P , but too bad can't play it cuz the players cost $2,500 nowadays... lol
@RobertWrightOneManCovers 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, it wasn't because of "scratchy" records -- they were brand new at the time. It was because records had higher fidelity (or more accurately, more bass, treble, and overall volume) at the outside than they were capable of cutting in the grooves nearest the label. And the programs were sent in pairs, with record 1 having Side A of programs 11 & 12, for instance, with record 2 having Side B of programs 11 & 12.
@danforbes3573 8 жыл бұрын
Actually,Jarret, you dont need to by a $2500 turntable to play that 16" record,you can go retro and buy a 1960s califone classroom record deck quite cheaply, and most of them can play 16" records.Also,as a side note, not all transcription records were made of vinyl. Some 16" transcription record from the 1930's were made of shellac,and the shellac ones played at 33 1/3 rpm as well.
@joeymaterese8095 6 жыл бұрын
You have a very calming effect within your voice... Your opinions have always been valued.. You've opened up the wide world of vinyl to me.. Much appreciated
@MrRom92DAW 7 жыл бұрын
Not the biggest ever. Pathe 20" records were bigger. Much less common though. Buy one of those and do a video
@stratocat9999 5 жыл бұрын
Pathe Concert discs are rare, are cut vertically and play at 120 RPM.
@MCMTL 4 жыл бұрын
What do you play those on? Those players must be just as rare.
@Clacker7 4 жыл бұрын
He already did a video
@blkpopeye 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a demo of a 20" record and the machine that you can play it on.
@lindvallpaul9861 3 жыл бұрын
i have one of thoose 20"
@tim_brooks 8 жыл бұрын
i have archived hundreds, if not thousands of those (encoding them digitally), at work. they are not usually vinyl like lps, but actually sheet metal or glass coated with acetate. very fragile and brittle. most did play from the inside out, but could be recorded either way. also, even though they're huge compared to normal records, you wouldn't get more than 20 minutes or so per side, about the same as an lp. this was due to how spaced out the grooves are.
@tim_brooks 8 жыл бұрын
also, you'd use a 78 stylus for those.
@tim_brooks 8 жыл бұрын
also, you'd use a 78 stylus for those.
@keantoken6433 7 жыл бұрын
Records that have been through a whole mastering process have probably had the groove spacing optimized to save unused space. It would make sense for breaking news discs which only get played a few times to have no such process as it would delay the news broadcast.
@paulnunn5660 5 жыл бұрын
tim brooks where did you do this work? I’m in the process of digitizing some and am curious who else is doing it
@kfl611 2 жыл бұрын
Did spacing out the grooves make a different in equalization? What equalization curve formula worked best, or did you use your ears to judge for best sound?
@avengedsvfdrcks 7 жыл бұрын
You should do a room tour :)
@vinyleyezz 7 жыл бұрын
good idea!
@hacked2123 6 жыл бұрын
Vinyl Eyezz On the topic of transcription discs, on Ebay there is a "Lot of (33) Armed Forces Radio Service 16" Transcription Discs W/ Military Case", looks pretty spiffy...maybe they'll offer you a better deal since you're awdsome
@mickeyclark5315 5 жыл бұрын
You need a stereo cartridge to play it - it says "Vertical" on it - means the modulations go deeper and shallower - also called hill and dale - and when you can play it, record it in stereo then open in a wave editor and reverse the phase of one of the channels - you can then combine them to get great sound from your record
@kfl611 2 жыл бұрын
I just purchased a bunch of transcription discs, your idea is great to know.
@davidcarson4421 7 ай бұрын
There is actually a standard connection for wiring stereo cartridges to play vertical cut ETs, such as World, Associated, and Muzak.
@mickeyclark5315 7 ай бұрын
@@davidcarson4421 I used to have a switch mounted on my turntable for that, but it makes the wiring more susceptible to hum. I always record when I'm playing a vertical record so I don't need to have the best audio until after I've processed the sound anyway.
@marshmallowdoeslife 8 жыл бұрын
Start a go fund me so people who wanna hear it can drop some money in for that player and you can play it for us!
@djsouthpaw3811 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, me too, I wanna hear this bad boy.
@RecordCollector96 4 жыл бұрын
He could send me the disc and I can transfer it for him!
@swabby429 8 жыл бұрын
Radio guy here. My former place of employment was one of the first stations in the country and had stacks of these things. The transcribing turntable was indeed quite large, the transcribing head on the tonearm was rather massive. It had to be in order to cut the audio onto the platter. It cut disks from the label side outward. That turntable finally died in 1979 and was put out to pasture, literally, in the transmitter building. The playback turntable was a rim-drive three-speed 78, 45, 33. rpm. It used a longer wooden tonearm with a conventional head, containing a standard cartridge equipped with a 78 rpm compatible stylus. All of the transcribing disks in the library were acetate. We sometimes accessed them for flashback history programs or stories. We patched it into a broadcast standard turntable preamp then into the audio console in one of the production rooms. I have one amusing anecdote regarding the disks. About a month after I was hired, The program director was cutting a test disk to find out if the transcribing head still worked. He swept off the fine thread-like acetate shavings into the wastebasket nearby. Without thinking, the program director tapped his tobacco pipe against the inside of the wastebasket to empty some ashes. Within seconds, the shavings burst into flame. Fortunately, there was a good fire extinguisher within reach. My coworker never did live that incident down.
@RyanSchweitzer77 4 жыл бұрын
Ha! :D That incident you've mentioned reminds me of a prank I read about that would be pulled at places that had a record cutter such as radio stations and the like. The material left over from disc cutting was usually called "swarf", and as a prank, some folks would actually start it on fire after it was discarded in a wastebasket, and it would proceed to temporarily create a whole lot of smoke! I believe it would usually consume and extinguish itself after a brief moment, so it sounds like there must've been some extra paper or other debris in that wastebasket that caused it to flame up like that, calling for yourself to grab an extinguisher!!! Good thing you put it out! :)
@kfl611 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the day when everyone smoked, where ever they wanted to - who ever heard of 2nd hand smoke? Not me, I sure sucked down my fair share of 2nd hand smoke.
@visaman 7 жыл бұрын
Jack Cullen at CKNW, in Vancouver had a huge collection of these discs that he collected while working at the station. So much so, that he transcribed them onto tape. When he passed away, his collection was donated to the radio station. If you listen to the OTR shows on your local radio station, chances are that you are listening to a recording one of his discs, albeit a 7th generation copy.
@GregMadeaVideo 8 жыл бұрын
Another great video with no mention of Crosley! Thank God. (Damn, I just mentioned it.)
@vinyleyezz 8 жыл бұрын
+Gregory Short (popcrackle.com) hahaha
@mgconlan 6 жыл бұрын
I remember when I went to San Francisco State University in the late 1970's their library had copies of the American Record Guide from the late 1940's. They covered the introduction of the LP by Columbia in 1948, and one of their technical writers said Columbia should have used the 16-inch disc size for LP's instead of the 10- and 12-inch sizes they actually used. This writer thought the sound on the larger discs would have been better because they could have ended the record farther from the label for less inner-groove distortion. I've seen a few otherwise standard LP's that were inside-start, including the Mercury Records "counterrevolutionary sampler" from 1980 and a recent classical release that coupled Ravel's "Bolero" and "La Valse," two works which start soft and end loud.
@AemiliaJacobus 8 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking of the 20 inch Pathé discs that spun at ~130 rpm.
@Edwin48100 6 жыл бұрын
You are 10 RPM's too fast there. They played at 120 RPM's. Not 130 RPMs.
@RobertWrightOneManCovers 6 жыл бұрын
@@Edwin48100 Depended on how accurate to 120rpm the pantograph machine was set. The sleeves of those very records say 120 to 130rpm.
@tflood11 5 жыл бұрын
@@RobertWrightOneManCovers 120rpm = 2rps (s is seconds).
@RobertWrightOneManCovers 5 жыл бұрын
@@tflood11 Uh, yes. Sorry, your point?
@tflood11 5 жыл бұрын
@@RobertWrightOneManCovers OK, 45 RPM = 3/4 of 1 RPS; 60 RPM = 1 RPS; and 120 RPM = 2 RPS (RPS is Revolutions Per Second).
@Kaiwaza 8 жыл бұрын
I used to work at a couple of radio stations that played old-fashioned easy listening & big band. This was in the 1980s & 90s and both stations still had and used many old transcription discs for short variety programs, like "pet tips" and "on this day in history" etc. I loved them. They were fun to cue up as they were so HUGE, but youhad to be careful with them as they were very brittle. Also, quite a few transcription discs were made of complete music programs. Many times, the music ont these transcription disc programs was never released on LP to the public. THey were only available on transcription disc. I collect Hawaiian vinyl and it pains me to see these discs on ebay, etc., every so often as they absolutely DO contain rare music not available in any other format, but I have no way to play them so.....oh well. I do have one transcription disc featuring music from Johnny Pineapple (1940s artist) that has music never released elsewhere and was fortunatly, for me, issued on a 10-inch 33 1/3 transcription that DOES play on a regular phonograph.
@hyzercreek 7 жыл бұрын
Most 16 inch records are vinyl, not fragile at all. 16 inch shellac records went out of style in 1930 when RCA invented Victrolac due to demand from Vitaphone.
@fromthesidelines 4 жыл бұрын
This is an Associated transcription disc- produced specifically for radio station use- featuring songs by Evelyn Knight, a popular singer in the late 1940's.
@MisterTalkingMachine 7 жыл бұрын
If I could get my hands on one, I would make a video tutorial on how to make an appropiate player for cheap
@matthemmer7114 8 жыл бұрын
ive been saying this for the past year, but you are going to be really big some day my friend. i really enjoy your videos.
@vinyleyezz 8 жыл бұрын
+Matt Hemmer thank you so much man! I appreciate all you guys watching my videos! More great stuff on the way!
@sneskid78 8 жыл бұрын
These we also used for sound films from around the mid 1920s to about 1931, before the sound-on-film optical track process was perfected and made standard. The turntable platter was linked to the protector motor, and the projectionist would cue it to start of the film. As long as it didn't skip and any necessary film splicing and repair was done properly, the sound remained in sync.
@kfl611 2 жыл бұрын
AKA - Vitaphone.
@TechnoMediaArchive 4 ай бұрын
In a visual context it's simply stunning. Very bright, beautiful and aesthetic. Perfect for collection
@gverran 8 жыл бұрын
I bet Techmoan will somehow find broken turntables that plays these records for next to nothing on eBay and fix them and actually get these to play.
@vinyleyezz 8 жыл бұрын
yeah, could be. He's really awesome with repairing technology :)
@dondesnoo1771 5 жыл бұрын
Vinyl Eyezz in the 60s the transcript disc players were quite common I have a red disc of Johnny Carson they used to send drama shoews to local stations with them .
@superiormusic 8 жыл бұрын
Just imagine how much information one of these could hold if they were spun at 16 2/3 RPM and utilised the standard vinyl stylus :)
@MarioGraefe 8 жыл бұрын
Ordered a t-shirt and a mug, happy vinylazing. Love your videos. A vinyl-fan since the 80s. :) I think i'm getting old :)
@vinyleyezz 8 жыл бұрын
+Mario Graefe thank you so much! Keep Spinning that Vinyl Mario! :D
@latetotheparty7551 3 жыл бұрын
0:23 I always appreciate a Sling Blade reference.
@RWBHere 4 жыл бұрын
Thank-you for showing us those records. At 78 rpm they played for about 15 minutes per side with good sound quality, suitable for AM broadcast use. The biggest disks were Fonotipia, Odeon and Pathé vertical cut disks. They were 50 cm in diameter - that's about 19.75" - and they played at between 110 and 135 rpm, from the centre outwards. Some later disks could play for several hours per side, using low speeds for spoken books for the blind. The very slowest experimental records rotated at 4 1/6 rpm, with 10 hours per side, and probably capable of 12 hours of playback on a 12" format. But those test records were never sold. The slowest available spoken audio disks rotated at 8 ⅓ rpm, usually as 10" flexible records, released between 1969 and 2001. They played for 90 minutes per side, and sometimes for longer.
@ebaydon8230 4 жыл бұрын
these discs did not spin at 78, they were 33 1/3 yielding the first half of a half hour show..about 15 minutess.
@mikestech1119 8 жыл бұрын
These discs were often destroyed after used in the broadcast, making many of them very rare today.
@mspysu79 6 жыл бұрын
A Garrard 4HF will also pay transcription or Vitaphone 16" discs, get one with a GE VRII cartridge, you can get .7, 2.0 and 3.0 mil styli for that cart.
@katie8528 8 жыл бұрын
You should totally make "keep spinning that vinyl" t-shirts!! I would totally buy one haha
@vinyleyezz 8 жыл бұрын
+Katie Medlin they're available in the new shop! :) click the card in the video!
@katie8528 8 жыл бұрын
+Vinyl Eyezz how was I not aware of this!! Well, there goes $17
@TheTarrMan 8 жыл бұрын
Is there an arrow pointing down?
@fortherecord1569 8 жыл бұрын
RCA Video Discs! They were competing with Laserdiscs players and lost big time. However, they played with a stylus just like a record player, except it read grooves up and down vs left and right on an audio record.
@mrmaestro04 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, Jarrett! These transcription discs are not only different, they're a part of history. You may not have to get a whole new turntable to play it. You should be able to buy a separate tonearm (expensive on its own - but you may be able to get one for around $300 or so on eBay) and mount it on a block of wood. You would have to plug the tonearm into your preamp with the ground wire - the same way you would for a new TT. Might be something to consider (also a good idea to keep a different cart for 78s handy) Good luck!
@ImnotgoingSideways 8 жыл бұрын
At 4:08 what you found was a J.A. Mitchell Transcriptor where the seller misspelled the name. While the price is typical for that model, it's still a 12" spinner and won't play anything larger. It also looks inappropriately modified, with a significant amount of missing hardware, and the anti-skate is either broken or disconnected. That photo screams "DO NOT BUY!" (^_^)
@loren4504 6 жыл бұрын
I play my 16-inch transcriptions on a Bogen B62 turntable. It will fit over the cue device when it is lowered to play position. I recently bought a couple of vertically cut transcriptions. I have an additional plug-in head that could be used for vertical (wired in a manner that will play Edison or Pathe Discs... reversing the two "hot" wires from the cartridge and connecting them with a piece of solid speaker wire). I just haven't had the drive to complete the task, but it WILL work when I do!
@nmgt1048 7 жыл бұрын
The radio station at my college used 16" turntables meant to play those records, but they played only sizes up to 12" when broadcasting. I did see a few of those big records in rummage sales many years back.
@chriscutress6542 5 жыл бұрын
I picked my McCurdy transcription turntable up from the CBC when they were showing them the door. A few had been stored in a maintenance hallway for years behind the television news area in an old building in Vancouver. Also picked up a box of broken extended tonearm parts (after I found out that an extended tone arm would cost over $500 without cartridge). A few months later after gutting the tube electronics rack and rebuilding the tonearm parts into two operational units, I had a side arm for 33/45 rpm and a rear arm for 78 rpm. Works like new and a real attention grabber in the corned of my media room. It stands about 3.5 feet tall in a grey-green metal cabinet with a front access door for spare storage. I've seen a number of transcription turntables sold by older radio and television stations just to get them out of the door. Basically pay the shipping and they are yours. But … the metal cabinets these things originally came with are large, metal and heavy. The catch is to get the extended tonearm and parts. Many of these units were also disk cutters but those arms are super expensive, if you can find them. I play my small collection of V-Disks and transcription vinyl on them even though I have transferred the contents to CDR and reel to reel for archival purposes.
@kfl611 2 жыл бұрын
Having said all that YOU NEED TO MAKE US ALL A VIDEO OF THEM PLAYING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@chriscutress1702 2 жыл бұрын
@@kfl611 Where would you like me to send the video clip ?
@kfl611 2 жыл бұрын
@@chriscutress1702 On youtube for every one enjoy of course !!!
@clemstevenson 7 жыл бұрын
The Black Sabbath album seen at 0:43 is older than the presenter.
@WR3ND 7 жыл бұрын
Seems pretty normal. I'm old in comparison and most of the vinyl I have is older than me.
@clemstevenson 7 жыл бұрын
You have to be born some time. Its like last year, when I talked to a young lady of 26 about having strange experiences before she was even born.
@PyramidOfBubbles777 4 жыл бұрын
Any Black Sabbath album needs to be placed in a garbage bag, not a tote bag lol
@Parlophonic 8 жыл бұрын
I find your delivery very professional and your enthusiasm is far from being 'nerdy' - neither do you talk down to the viewer. My thanks! I have subscribed.
@vibrationsandlibations 6 жыл бұрын
That is about the same as trying to play a laser disk in a DVD player. Good video!
@photomitch 8 жыл бұрын
When i was in Grade School, back in the day (50's top 60's) transcription player were the norm in classrooms. We had no transcription records, but those old record player played those old 16 inch discs.
@kyfann1 7 жыл бұрын
I bought 200 16" disk at an estate sale for $200.00 . They were wwll recordings sent to the troops in the war theater . They contained various artist of the period who sang songs . Also some of them had pep talks from Generals and war instructions on how to defeat the enemy . They went to ebay (all but 4) where I broke even on the sale .
@georgeslupski5987 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this info. I know where there are 10 thousand of these (seen them). from your comments they seem worthless, I was going to buy them. Its amazing how many so called record experts have never heard of them
@macnerd93 8 жыл бұрын
I saw a load of these at a car boot sale about 6 or 7 years back. I assumed they were for radio broadcast but because I didn't have a player suitable to play them I skipped on buying them.
@HMV101 6 жыл бұрын
That particular 16-inch transcription disc, unlike the vast majority of them, embodies vertically cut (hill&dale) grooves. Like Edison’s Diamond Discs, early Pathé and quite a few pre-WWI discs that used this modulation method, they can be played with a stereo cartridge wired up with the two channels wired in parallel but out of phase. Incidentally, the main reason for the centre start in earlier radio transcriptions (and all Vitaphone soundtrack discs) was that used the then normal steel needles (stylus). These would barely last for one side, being relatively blunt by the end of the record. If the record finished at the outer edge however where the groove speed is much faster that it is nearer the label area, the broader blunt tip was of far lesser consequence.
@kfl611 2 жыл бұрын
It amazes me how people keep this type of information in their brains.....thanks for sharing.
@dhelton40 2 жыл бұрын
Look for a used broadcast turntable with a 16 inch platter. Gates, QRK and RCA, then read up on transcription disc play back. Some were vertical and some were lateral groove. The RCA turntables from the late '40 and '50 s had a switch for both types, as well as arms for Transcription/ 78 playback and a second arm for microgroove records
@jamescollins6085 8 жыл бұрын
+Vinyl Eyezz I am very new to vinyl and have a fairly low budget, is the Pro-Ject Elemental very good?
@vinyleyezz 8 жыл бұрын
+James Collins yes! Pro-Ject is a quality brand and the elemental is a good model!
@jamescollins6085 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you, some of my friends were recommending that I got a Crosley Cruiser. screw that!
@rodrendell-green55 4 жыл бұрын
I was bought up in Africa. In the 1950 to1960 I lived in Rhodesia. The Radio station received transcription records from some from Canadian Broarcasting Corperation CBC. I leant a lot about Canada. I left Africa in 1962 and went to England. I married a Canadian lady . My wife wanted to go home so when my daughter was 3 months old we immigrated to Canada by ship. We live in Toronto and I still listen to the radio a lot. I sometimes listen to radio on the TV and record programs to listern to later at night because no time during the day I use the PVR
@LupusYonderboy13 5 жыл бұрын
There are portable film projector/transcription disc phonographs that folded out of a large suitcase style carrier. These would play film and accompanying audio for educational purposes. I bought some of the film and records made by the Hudson Motor Car Company at a swap meet when I was a child. The guy who I bought them from offered to sell me the projector/phonograph to play them on for $150. As a kid that seemed incredibly steep so I passed. I am still kicking myself for that one as I have never found another.
@tolerpro4691 8 жыл бұрын
Transcription discs were first developed to create the talking pictures of 1920s. The 16" size and 33.33 RPM specification were chosen because they would yield sound that was the same length as a reel of film. The turntable was mechanically linked to the projector drive sprocket so that, if the record was started correctly, it would remain in sync. The radio industry adopted the format to delay broadcasting of programs for the various time zones (this was before the advent of magnetic tape). Most of these were acetate discs that were cut by the network affiliate stations as the program was broadcast from New York and played back at the correct time for the local station. Few of these survive today. Vinyl transcription discs were used for special programs, advertising, bumpers and sound effects because of their durability and were generally distributed by mail or courier. Columbia Records adopted the vinyl pressing process and rotation speed while reducing the record diameter and the size of the groove to create the LP record we now know and love. Keep spinning that vinyl!
@DeadKoby 8 жыл бұрын
Rek-o-Kut has some tables that will take transcription discs, and they aren't toooo pricey. Their models are made for playing most any format... 5-16" discs 16-78 rpm.
@lomedbeats6294 8 жыл бұрын
A good follow up to this would be the V-Discs, 16-inch records made during WWII which feature special performances of songs...lots of one-offs and rare versions of popular tunes
@madmatt59416 8 жыл бұрын
Seeing that Black Sabbath record sliding into the tote bag made my day. Keep up the great work, man!
@k2mr 8 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for your channel Jarret.! It is fantastic that the interest in vinyl records is being renovated. It is a much more intimate way of relating to music. Cheers from Brazil.
@Kalprog 8 жыл бұрын
Way back when there used to be a format where people would record their voice onto a disc and mail it to loved ones. It was very similar to a 7 inch with a few minutes of recording time. These were popular during the WW2 era when servicemen would send voice recordings home as well as written mail. Not sure what they were actually called but maybe you can investigate for a future video.
@glennk1931 11 ай бұрын
Hello Jarrett. One turntable that I know will play these large records is the Bogen L70. Saw one on eBay that was going for $650. I’m lucky to already own one. Both the turntable and about 30 transcriptions. Great video.
@acidhousehouse1601 8 жыл бұрын
"you`re going to need a bigger record player" The part where you can`t fit the record on the platter actually made me laugh out loud. My neighbour worked for the BBC in England and he knows i`m into vinyl and he told me about these transcription discs. He said the BBC had loads of them in storage back in the 1960`s. The BBC now archive all broadcast material but back in past decades they used to re-use tape because it was so expensive. This means that many broadcasts were lost because they were recorded over. I wonder if they kept their catalogue of transcription discs or re-used for some other purpose.
@Phono-fun 8 жыл бұрын
The French Pathe' Phonograph company designed and made center start 20-inch records in 1905.
@videogamehistorian 7 жыл бұрын
16" transcription discs are not the biggest. Pathé made 20" (50cm) discs in the 1910s. Two types existed: Concert running at 120rpm (one title per side) and Théâtre running at 60rpm to allow two titles per side. But these were actually not the biggest. Pathé did produce 70cm records during a short period of time for some specific cinema setup. These 70cm records were obviously extremely limited in production and never sold to the market, so much that the only proof of their existence is the one 70cm record which used to be framed at the director's office of the Pathé factory in Chatou (France) before most of the stuff went to England. There is also a rumor that 120cm records were envisioned, but nothing has ever surfaced (not even documents).
@ArizonaGeek 8 жыл бұрын
Started following you a few weeks ago. Some good information! When I started to work in radio in the mid 80s we got a lot of syndicated shows on vinyl (King Biscuit Flower Hour was one, wish I would have been able to keep some!) but ours were all 12" records and 2 track reel-to-reel and then by the early and mid 90's CD until I left the industry in early 98. The first radio station I worked in was small, (we didn't get our first CD player until 1988) we had two, monster, wheel driven turntables that would have been able to play those monster 16" transcription discs. I am not sure any consumer level turntable would be able to play those. Just thought I would pass along some info. If you want to make a video about different genres of music collecting, I know quite a few people collect the weird stuff like song-poems or novelty records, which is a lot of what I collect. The weirder the better!
@kfl611 2 жыл бұрын
I used to like to listen to the king biscuit flour hour show !
@videotape2959 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty cool but now how about you get a 20 inch Pathé record... Some Pathé records also started from the inside too.
@HMV101 7 жыл бұрын
ALL the early Pathé discs were centre start. Their 20-inch disc still only played for approximately 3-minutes per side. This was because the rotated at 120-rpm.
@kwd-kwd 7 жыл бұрын
you need a Technics sp 15 or sp 25 turntable with an Audio technica at12P tonearm. I have this combo and it will play 16 inch records
@MsMadLemon 8 жыл бұрын
Mmm red.. Great choice! ..And no shame at all in being an audio nerd! ;o))
@Bestrockalbum4 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Jarrett, you should make vinyl Eyezz stickers :)
@ScorpionSlayer66 8 жыл бұрын
YES!!!!
@beejay4025 8 жыл бұрын
I'd love one!
@alexnewton7624 8 жыл бұрын
he has stickers.
@beejay4025 8 жыл бұрын
no, those are mouse pads.
@beejay4025 8 жыл бұрын
Lolz smart comeback xD
@stanvanmierlo6579 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Vinyl Eyezz! I just discovered your youtube channel. It's really cool:) I've got a question, I have a Bose companion 2.1 audioset. My neighbor complains quite a lot about the bass. The problem is, when I'm playing records I keep the volume at a normal level. Is there a way that I can reduce the vibrations through the wall without unplugging the subwoofer?
@vinyleyezz 8 жыл бұрын
try placing a solid flat wooden board underneath the subwoofer, and possibly even isolation feet on the bottom of the subwoofer, that might help! Also you could try to put up acoustic paneling to cut down on the sound traveling too far. Good luck!
@mr.muskrateer9610 6 жыл бұрын
No
@Canal87 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Jarrett. Regards from México!
@Canal87 8 жыл бұрын
Please talk about shaped records...
@ChristianVidauri 7 жыл бұрын
I just randomly found this channel. And I am not complaining.
@tyzerro 8 жыл бұрын
this video made me smile! thanks for sharing, going to check out the 10 kinds of records video now! and the Flexi one!
@demonufo 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, you wouldn't be able to play that disc on the Michell deck you show on ebay (which is way, way overpriced for what it is). The platter on that is no bigger than any other standard deck. Ideally you'd need a seperate motor unit and armboard and at least a 12" arm.
@leyland9999 7 жыл бұрын
These records were still made well into the seventees.... I remember listening to Wolfman Jack over here in Holland at night on AFN-Camp New Amsterdam radio station and the needle skipped! That could only happen with a transcription record. And I also heard some scratches during other shows. Those were the days and they aint coming back again.....Greetings from Hekelingen near Rotterdam, The Netherlands.
@kfl611 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings Netherlands.
@pinecone9619 7 жыл бұрын
I love how you say that purchasing your merchandise is optional, even when it goes without saying. :)
@alanlucas501 2 жыл бұрын
That record wouldn't fit into my Spin clean record wash.🤣
@crabPEOPLE2000 8 жыл бұрын
isn't it sorta strange how he already has tote bags and mugs when he doesn't even have 25k subs? a little quick with the merch no
@doningle8030 7 жыл бұрын
transcriptions can be larger than 16". I've seen discs as big as 20". 16" actually survived until 1965. I have quite a few of these. Typical stylus tip used is 2.5 mil. You can find a new budget player from Esoteric Sound. I used to use old Rek-O-Kut tables for these. Currently i use a Technics SP15 with an Audio Technica AT12P tonearm.
@shoobidu 8 жыл бұрын
You should review cleaning products like brushes and other things. Great job and keep the videos coming :D
@deanethomas6075 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Jarett, I've got a 10-inch disc that has written on it September 1949 and apparently it's a homemade disc that somebody made and basically they're counting down on it speaking a bunch of random stuff and woman is stopped in the street to talk about her dog apparently she lived in the building where they were recording this. Back then 19 forties or fifties people could go to Studios record their own records an interesting thing about this record is that it plays from the inside out like the transcription discs
@RecordCollector96 6 жыл бұрын
You CAN play them! There's a trick you can do to get them to play! Take an empty (or partially full) roll of packaging tape and set it on the turntable. Set the record on top of that. Make sure it's centered. Play them in reverse with the cartridge body facing upwards. You're all set! :D
@CoroaEntertainment 6 жыл бұрын
That's basically how I did it when I tried it in the late 80's. ;-)
@autisticrebel1253 7 жыл бұрын
In the 1st part of the 20th century there were 20 inch pathe records that would sometimes spin at 120rpm. There were also pathe records that went from the middle to the outside
@BADBIKERBENNY 6 жыл бұрын
They should make phonographs that can take these. A four speed four size phonograph. How cool is that!
@matthewfleming590 6 жыл бұрын
I have a bunch of these lying around. Never knew what they were until now.
@KarinaGonzalez-ch6ju 7 жыл бұрын
I remember watching you and really wanting to collect records and I finally saved up for a GOOD record player and have bought 30 records (over a year, not much compared to you but people started gifting me them for my birthday and Christmas) but thanks for making this interest come to life!!
@hyzercreek 7 жыл бұрын
20 inch records on the Pathe label around 1910
@12799MaDeuce 8 жыл бұрын
ever see a wire recording? kinda rare. if you want something more prevalent, take a look at Edison cylinders.
@zachmueller2912 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this, I bought a red one as well to make a light.
@ronaldrickard3551 7 жыл бұрын
the attempt to play it on yer TT made me LOL
@HeadRush-yj4fy 7 жыл бұрын
I've seen these at my local Kops on the walls, always peaked my interest.
@SarafinaSummers 7 ай бұрын
I haven't seen the Flexidisc video yet, so I'm not sure if you mention it. However, the NLS (national library service, part of the Library of congress, it's a service that provides talking and braille books to the blind and dyslexic) used to provide books on casette and vynal. Some books came on Flexidisc format, especially ones you were meant to throw away, like magazines or the instructional record that came with the machine.
@brozfranz4814 8 жыл бұрын
the reaction when he discovered that he can't play the record was hilarious XD
@gaminghistory101 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, man. Next you should talk about the DCC or Elcaset, it would certainly make for an interesting shelf piece!
@Electrohead92 8 жыл бұрын
I've never actually heard of these before. I always assumed that radio broadcasts were either live or recorded on reel to reel tapes.
@ebaydon8230 4 жыл бұрын
Reel to reel wasn't actually used until Bing Crosby found it in Germany and started recording his "Philco Radio Time" pn it.
@kfl611 2 жыл бұрын
@@ebaydon8230 Yes after ww2, some technology we 'borrowed' from the Nazi's.
@kfl611 2 жыл бұрын
V-Discs during ww2, before America had reel to reel tape - although they did have reel to reel steel wire machines.
@lynnwillis441 6 жыл бұрын
As part of the Old Time Radio Researchers group, I'd like to know what's on that disc. I also have a set of 16" records that were used to teach elementary school children about music from around the world back in the 50s. Pretty cool stuff!
@TimGainer 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, Jarret - I own a transcription turntable and several discs. I also know where you can get one made on the cheap. DM me if you're still interested.
@ARCtheCartoonMaster 3 жыл бұрын
0:35 It’s not selling out if it’s your own brand.
@apbtxca 7 жыл бұрын
Frame it in a box you can open Use a dowel to sit it in center. I've used a square dowel and sanded the tip.
@grayday8089 8 жыл бұрын
I used to do auctioning years ago and one time I came across a very very old rca wooden console. This thing was huge and heavy. It didn't use regular needless, but instead used pegs. Anyways, there was a record storage area within the unit. There were classical collections but there were also advertisement records. They were red and mostly about beer. Do you know anything about this time period?
@kfl611 2 жыл бұрын
There was a time you could buy 'cactus' needles instead of metal needles to play. They were supposed to be easier on the record for wear.
@dakotanelson5722 6 жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOUR MERCH I FOUND MY OWN COFFEE MUG NO MORE SHARING 😰
@Shermanbay 8 жыл бұрын
I think...but I do not have first-hand experience...that there were 16" 78RPM transcription discs used to distribute radio programs ca. 1940-1955, programs like Jack Benny, George Burns, and Bob Hope. Very few still exist, because after the current week's show was broadcast, the disk was trashed. Who would want last week's program?
@HWMeatcutter 8 жыл бұрын
yeah those 16'' discs are amazing, have a couple myself..and they are hung on the wall behind my set...and just massive...and massive conversational pieces...great vids Vinyl Eyezz
@Avatar610 5 жыл бұрын
One thing: you didn't tell us what program(s) were on the disc itself!!!
@KillerBill1953 7 жыл бұрын
Good to see you had one of the all time best albums ever made for your bag (Black Sabbath).
@humanoiddemon9416 6 жыл бұрын
0:23 nice sling blade reference!
@jordanch68 3 жыл бұрын
If you still have it, cut up a cruiser to make it fit. Extend the tone arm using a wooden dowel or section of cheap fishing rod.
@jurreschwarts1983 8 жыл бұрын
dude you got so mutch of the same albums in your collection as me.. there is allway 1 or 2 records on the wall that i got 2! you sure got some taste ;)