Thanks for watching everyone! Let me know your experience with Liquids Vs Baits in the comments down below... I am looking forward to the debates :) Please let me know if you have any questions about what I discussed -Dan

Full disclosure, according to the department of Ag, a liquid treatment lasts up to 10 years before needing another restorative treatment. Its' still 60-70% cheaper over the course of that ten year period than maintaining a bait system.

I got a quote for 1200. I bought a huge Taurus sc and dug around my house myself!!!! 10 years of protection! $100.00 bucks and done

Hi, what is the name of the Liquid in the white bottle that you showed. And where can I find the container with the long handle that you can push into the ground and spray. Thank you for the video

Dan, I saw a video of yours you recorded 2 years ago and you said these termite statios works well. Now you said the opposite. I'm really confused for what you said on this video. Thanks

I'm doing a termite treatment tomorrow that has active termites. Those bait stations failed to do the job. Needless to say, the company that put those in will not be returning.

Company I work for we do both when the client has issues with termites and by itself as a preventative service. I have seen 0 issues with the homes that have these alone as a preventative service.

Hey I have neighbors use them but end up breaking while installing or run them over with lawnmower. Just for experimenting purposes I placed pieces of wood on the ground around my house. Within several weeks in spring/summer termites were on underside eating away.

Hey Dan. I have ants in my basement. I see them coming out from tiny hole and I put a caulking. Can ants destroy house foundations?

I understand where you’re coming from…but I do termite inspections for a living and I find a lot more termites in homes with liquid treatment than I do baiting systems. (Personally) Also a lot of professional companies will use an above ground stations for active infestations. I do disagree with this video…but I see where you’re coming from.

I can't find that department of agriculture litigation document only documents from the NC code .. Can you please reference the Dept of Agriculture document that states the 12 months ands and the 30 days you reference ?

If I dont put enough chemical due to measurement error less than 10 lineal feet should I be concerned?

I don't doubt that liquid treatments work, but you give off such strong vibes that tell people that your beef with Sentricon is based on personal reasons

Man said “reoccurring revenue is the best way to have a successful business” then turned around and said “sentricon is the worst and should be illegal” because they want reoccurring revenue from him…

Interesting video with good points. I've watched a lot of your videos, and a couple years ago you indicated that either bait stations or liquid were pretty equal alternatives. I have a Florida home that is 20 ' from a pond. 10 years ago it had a perimeter treatment with fipronil. Instead of retreating, A few months ago I self installed BASF bait stations around my home, thinking it was a better environmental option that would work just as well, and where I could personally see activity & results. . Wondering what to do now. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Any thoughts on Navigator sc termiticide? Bought some and realized there’s also Termidor.

Been using sentricon for 10+ years never had an issue. Also the most sustainable systems on the market, but definitely dump 100s of gallons in the soil and it still not be 100% effective.

I live in Ohio. I nearly got scam by my pest control company that I was with for about 4 years. They wanted to charge me $1500 to install the Sentricon bait stations around my 1250sqft home. This was a "discounted" price also since I was already a customer. Plus $60 per month for 2 years for the warranty ( He did not mentioned this. I just happened to have read it.). They used several scare tactics to get me to sign. Such as "the house down the street needed $30K in termite damage repair". I ended up signing but after thinking about it overnight and doing a little research I canceled the contract the next day ( had a 3 day cancel window). In fact I completely canceled all my pest services from them. I ended up DIYing it with trenching and using a 78oz bottle of Taurus SC for $100. It was back breaking and time consuming but well worth it.

Look at us a bunch of f’kn nerds getting mad over the best way to kill bugs😂 I

Dan, how do I get rid of termites that are already in the house?

Do termites make a knocking sound inside the walls of a home Thank you

you are 1000% correct. I got ripped off by terminix's monthly fees. I make my own. rolled cardboard with a borax/sugar mixture and cling wrap and I bury the bait 1 to 2 ft deep. i don't check or refill. I just once a year put own 20 more per property

Do termites make a knocking sound on the walls inside a home thank you

Wow. I never knew! Dan, I rent a large home built in the last 4 years. My landlord doesn't provide pest maintenance, I haven't seen any issues. Would you recommend a pest inspection before paying for regular maintenance, or how do I not get ripped off?

So is liquid 100 percent effective ?

Can you use the Taurus SC for insects outside around the house?

I too hate them, for many reasons, the worst example is when people only install the timber monitoring devices and not the always active rod, 3 monthly visits that end up not even happening and then people get termites anyway or if the controller does keep coming it milks the customer to the point they then hate pest controllers and when they do get an active station baiting them needs so many bait replacements, sometimes the termites don't take the bait and abandon the station less so with high density rods, they generally take, but using stuff you have to mix with water, I hate that, you only need a couple jobs out of 100 where they dont take the bait even when they are channeling right next to the station to test the limits of your patience lol, using just timber to me is just a straight up scam, the always active rod less so, but still it can take several rod replacements and sometimes 2 years! For them to finally stop attacking that active station and be presumed dead, but then you go turn over a log 20 feet away and find termites anyway after baiting for freaking years! The caps go brittle faster than the rods go old. And oh boy when they don't touch any stations but eat someone's house anyway, customers loooove that...not. In conjunction with something like Taurus or in very specific use cases, It should almost never be the first option IMO and to the people saying "I use only sentricons for prevention for years with 0 issues " I would say 1. Maybe you aren't good at finding termites in houses or following up on your work in general lol 2. You don't actually have enough jobs done to have good data. 3. If you have callbacks for chemical but not stations you might be doing something wrong, a termite getting through chemical would be like a person trying to swim through an ocean of fentanyl lol 4. Would you do a pretreatment to a slab by doing no physical barrier, nothing on the penetrations, no chemical to the soil, none of the usual things, just plonk the house on soil and slap stations around it? Heck no you wouldn't so why do you think it's so different post construction? If you have a nice open subfloor that can be sprayed and an easy to treat perimeter why are you using stations at every job?! I think I know why! lazy!!!

I work at Orkin and we typically only use sentricon for preventative (with a guarantee that we will use termidor if termites become present) and light termite activity on a home (with termidor in the active areas). Beyond that we use termidor treatments for anything moderate to heavy activity. We also don’t manipulate or lie to anyone, Orkin would fire someone for being dishonest. “Hey Mr & Mrs, we offer a termite preventative product call sentricon, it does work based off of how termites forage but we offer a guarantee on it incase they do make it passed the stations (it happens but our branch has only had 2 houses in 10 years) we come out yearly and inspect the house inside and out and change the bait at yearly intervals.

This 100% has an agenda due to Sentricon pissing you off. Bait stations are needed if liquid application is impossible. It's still better having something than nothing. Bait should ALWAYS be secondary. If it's just the money situation, I don't charge for station checks, I offer that as a free service on top of other services or part of the initial implementation. But if I need to replace Bait, I charge. I liked your channel, but this is just making pest controllers who have tried to help their clients look bad. This video will always come up whenever I recommend bait stations in the future. So thank you, now I have to try and protect someone's home, where liquid can't get to. Like their prize-winning garden beds against their home. Try convincing them to trench up their garden 😂 they'd rather have termites eat their house then have anything hurt their garden.

Great video, great insight. I used your videos to get rid of termites in my house. Maybe one benefit of bait stations, it is more environmentally friendly; that being said I used the liquid treatment of course haha.

Terminix gave me a quote of $1500 to install 12 stations. They said there is a warranty of up to $275 k. They said if there is damage they pay up to 275K to fix the damage . They don't really tell me how that works but when I look at the contract that they want me to sign , there is a lot of fine prints . Im thinking not to sign up and do the preventive treatment myself. Your thoughts ?

Wrong! When I first started 18 years ago and Sentricon used a different bait and we still had many liquid accounts we would have 10+ "swarms" a day of existing customers in April now we dont have more than 10 (that are actually termites) a year, with 1‐3 swarming out of the structure. My company does not ever treat with liquid with the Sentricon System, we use above ground stations for active termites. The bait is not just "wood soaked in chemical" and we do remove the stations when you cancel. It might be a few months but we will remove them. I promise you it works, and I'm not just saying that because my company uses it believe it or not.

Great video, Dan. Very persuasive argument. Keep up the good work!

What a video . Completely agree 100% . I couldn’t tell you how many times I’ve crawled customers houses who had those bait stations and found active termites . Termite bait stations are indeed a complete scam . Liquid treatment is the way to go . Can’t go wrong with fipronil .

I cant believe you guys would take his word for it. He has a video on a liquid treatment on a house with active termitres and he doenst drill the patios that are connected to the house. He claimed he followed state laws, I cant think of one state that would allow a company to put a house on contract without a full treatment Most of all Dan is being paid by Control Solutions, thats why he always mentions Taurus and not Termindor SE and you can forget about him talking about Termindor HE, which is a better product because Control Solutions doesn't make it yet

Ive used them on active infestations and they usually start working within 3 months. I haven't done thousands of termite jobs but I've done a few.

Can you let us know how to do a preventative maintenance in attic for drywood termites. That would be a major help for most of us.

There is so much science and studies that back up stations. The problem is the when they aren’t checked correctly. Those stations destroy the entire colony.

Sentricon recruit HD works great here in new orleans the above ground stations for actives knock out activity quick the stations aren't fool proof but the back up with the AG works well price wise. It is cheaper to get sentricon vs liquid. Plus the cost of retreating and renewals. Its a lot easier on both sides of the business

You are going to ruffle some feathers with this one. I'll get the popcorn...

Termite Bait Stations are there to monitor activity before they start eating away at the house. I've installed bait stations around my home, and it hasn't taken long for them to find the bait.

Very good video mate. I'm from Australia. Considering buying a termite infested property near the beach.

Strange. Just a couple years ago you said with confidence that bait stations work and work very well. Maybe not as well as chemical liquid treatments, but pretty close. Not you are saying bait stations are a scam. What happened?

Im not sure about every company, but the annual renewal isnt just to monitor the stations, it is the cost to keep a warranty in place in the event termites do bypass the stations and damage the home. The company I am with actually covers the cost of damage if something does happen with the system in place. I know other companies offer retreat warranties as well. Now if a company is charging that much just to monitor the stations, then that is definitely a scam.

I've seen sentricon work, both when used with a liquid treatment and not. to me its not a ripoff, I've seen it eliminate colonies.

Where's your PPE while touching active termite bait stations?

I need a drink, to watch the rest of this😂😂

I think I will try that wood around outside, sounds good

Monitoring stations MAY be.a waste but active bait stations do work. *Comment sent before finishing video*

Dude your beef is with sentricon,Not the system itself.Look at it like this the bait stations are an added extra barrier like granular is to a liquid perimeter treatment.dont know where you are but come on down to good old hot as hell florida and tell the many rich or retirees that they can dig some trenches or drill and drop some bait stations.😂all my customers who have sentricons are on a quarterly ghp service as well,and guess what im treating the perimeter with?fuse.

You're getting paid for saying this. You used defend TBS.

With foams I find drilling the spots you want to treat is good, drilling a few 1/8" holes is easily patched, and if the termites are only cruising through the timbers in the wall and not the voids you kinda have to drill into the timber, nothing more satisfying than the sound of the termidor foam filling an entire 2x4 🤤🤤🤤🤤

My man got alllllllll the heat in the comments. Im just here to watch so he gets his KZfaq buckaroonies. Yall

Well I live in mountains of NC, got a well known p.c. company to install bait stations. That I was told the termites find and take back to colony and die. Each year they inspect crawl space, and twice a year inspect bait stations. They have found termites twice in different locations. But claim don't worry it will kill them.. also never replaced any of baits in 3 years, claims baits last long time. Also did I forget to say I pay $ 580.00 per year for this. I am to old to be digging ditches around house. And here in mountains you can't find anybody that wants to work

Thanks

That's how companies get rich by recurring revenue

You can not do a liquid treatment if they have a well or if there is a water source nearby. You also can not do a baiting system in cities. They both are good options, and neither are a scam. The renewal price for the warranty on both liquid and bait stations is the same, but the installation of the bait stations is cheaper than the treatment of liquid. Liquid treatment also degrades and needs to be redone every 10-15 years while bait stations are checked once a year and are replaced as needed, which is covered under the warranty. It's a little odd, too, that you have a video from 2 years ago where you're a lot more friendly towards bait stations than you are now. There is definitely a lot of bias in this video, and I think it could be because your company decided to stop using bait. If you are in the South, I understand because it's cut throat down there, and you also have drywood termites, whereas in the Northeast, it's really only ever subterranean termites.

What’s your recommendation for treating a home with well water? And the well pump is in a room inside the house. Pretty sure it is dug deep but I’m worried about the soil treatment approach contaminating our water supply..

Sentricon is a scam you are correct. Trelona ATBS is the only station that works pretty well if done correctly. However we always say liquid is a must if there is an active colony present/obvious before we can even discuss trelona.

Wow. Apparently you’d go to great lengths to misinform people. My friend I use Sentricon daily. 365 days a year ongoing with these stations I return very little for extra work to the same house. Very very little. You need to get your facts straight Dan.

I live in Asia and in my country there's a termite bait in form of a box, you install it in the house. (work the same way as the stick one but just for intercepting the termite path inside the house). Glad I've watch this video before I use one of these. It's quite expensive as well, you could buy a lot of thing with those money xD. ngl their lie worked on me xD (I was using Fipronil/trench myself, saw an ad and like wow so cool is this effective it would require less work for me. I just want to protect my home.)

I agree with you completely. It's 100 percent a revenue gimmick.

Bro you’re incredible!! My family and I LOVE THIS CHANNEL My friends runs a termite company and they never really prevented any termite infestation with those bate stations and your right. They now use Tourus SC and they have successfully saved a lot of homes. But I ordered that product and trenched it in MYSELF THANKS TO YOUR CHANNEL 👍👍👍👍👍

Currently had 30 of these put in for active Formosan and sub terrain termite's. Currently 6 months into this and still very active termites inside the house. Have holes in the wall where they have ate the decking and 2x4's to nothing left. They are eating away at the house and the company doesn't seem to care about getting these termites killed. They put in above ground bait stations. They come back every 2 weeks and replace the bait. Never did any sort of liquids. Need a true professional if you know anyone in the Lake Jackson, TX area that actually is a professional in termites.

I had liquid fail 3 times in 4 years. Twice done professionally. What seemed to have worked is having all the walls inside the house filled with terminator and having having the bathroom drilled and drilling into underneath the foundation with liquid but then. They also put in bait stations for me for free. My annual contract for the bait station is a hundred and fifty dollars a year. That includes a 1 million dollar structural damage gaurantee. I have it in writing.

I agree with this 100%. I’ve been back to houses after years of having station service installed to “renew the warranty”. And found many empty pods with active termites crawling all over them. I install bait stations because my company pays me to, but I really don’t think they work very well at all.

12 to 20 read the label. And they are looking for cellulose not wood fool

Hey Dan! Thanks for this info! Bait stations never made sense to me, I avoid them. Best regards, Katie's dad.

Amen brother 18 years here in the industry and bait stations are a complete sham!! Good for you !!

I have them every 5 ft. It's a lot but they do work.

Being in the pest control industry for now almost 4 years, I can totally agree with you on this one. Liquid treatments are the way to go. I have experience with both products stations and liquid. I use premise 75 for exterior treatments and premise 2 for interior like wall voids etc

thank you! the truth comes out!

Hello bug man 👨 😊

I ONLY recommend termite bait stations to customers as a preventative and monitoring service. If there’s an active issue, these are definitely not a solution! 100% need some Termidor trench & rod treatment. We also do a pre treatment for newly built houses with BoraCare and a blue dye.

I know sentricon bait stations dont work ,personal experience

I know huh😅And we serious too. But this man is right. These Termite companies are freaking rip offs. I have always treated my properties for termites🎉😂

Man, your passion on this subject really shows. A home inspector told me years ago they were a scam, but didn't go into details. Thanks for this video.

You are the man. About everything is a scam these days. I appreciate your willingness to work for a loving and helpimg folks to combat pests.

you know what i hate more than these stations? installing them lol, im a tech for terminix and people buy them like hot cakes.

With active termites trench and treat and install stations. Im with you, bait stations aren't a reliable comprehensive treatment

I'm currently doing the Taurus SC trench application proactively. No activity thank goodness. Taurus for $50 and manual labor is well worth 5 to 10 years of protection. Previous homeowner had bait stations and a pest control contract. Termites may not find the bait stations as one colony can cover 10 blocks.

Then you go to these classes and you listen to these companies that sell the product and that’s where all the information comes from Pest Control companies don’t make it up. It’s the manufacturer.

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This house came with Sentricons. I bought the $55 key on ebay to open them up just to check on them. They are extremely protective of the bait refills. You *might* find some for sale on ebay but I haven't found them anywhere else. And the narrow shape that's all part of the racket. So you have to use their skinny baits that you can't find for sale. I'm guessing that's the reason they want to really screen their pest control companies. They don't want their product getting leaked to ebay. Also far easier to drill a pilot hole for them during install. The company that was servicing them really tried to get me to renew the subscription but they marketed it as a preventative and not to kill an active infestation.

You shouldn’t have posted this.

I have been in the past filled for eight years and worked for multiple different big corporate companies now I work for a in-state company and have been for the last four years we use sentricon mainly and it works perfect the ag station are a definite game over! Don’t get me wrong liquid treatments do work. Also when you use Thermidor He.I like your channel and everything you produce but seeing that you’re going after a product that you’ve never even used irks me and Taurus is not the answer when it comes to Termite treatments it’s just an offbrand of Thermidor it’s like comparing skim milk to buttermilk! To be honest controlled solutions Products are not the best it’s not the active ingredient. It’s the additive they put in them.

Don’t listen to this guy on this. I enjoy a lot of his videos. But bait stations are generally required for a warranty. Repair and retreatment. Is sentricon the most cost effective bait? No. Sentricon is cost effective when there’s an active infestation.

Boy you can tell the bait station sellers are out in force ! 😂 liquid treatment is 1,00000000% better than stations ! You want stations I’ll be happy to sell you BUT ! My home gets liquid treatment!! Good luck wit the stations !!

this is not true at all .

Hey Dan. Thanks for making this video. I have a company in Kentucky, and for years, I've warned customers about using these stations. It's nice to see that you are one of the good ones. Think about it. Bait lures termites to your property, forever, creating a life long customer for the company. It only benefits the company. The bait may kill the initial colony, but here comes another one. I've attended many seminars, by some of Sentricon's top sales people. They try to convince us that our revenues will go up if we buy into it, but I always refused.

No that is not true you are replacing a useless program for one that actually works

6 years of experience..wow real veteran he is.This guy has much to learn. His video is an example of lazy marketing and self promotion. Of course, he has built his company around liquid treatments. It makes perfect sense to make a video that defames his competition. Thankfully the customers can see through these tactics in most cases. Focus more on your work and your customers and less on talking shit about a subject you know next to nothing about. I say that with love!

Ótimo trabalho

You said they were good in a previous video

I can't thank you enough for your videos. I'm happy to see the change in this industry the new generation is bringing. I had subs down here in South Florida and got 3 quotes. Two of them were absolutely ridiculous talking several thousand dollars. A younger guy came out and took a look around and said I could probably treat them myself for about $400 all in and that included buying the sprayer to mix the Taurus SC. Between his help and your videos I was able to treat my entire home successfully. Unfortunately my HOA has been drinking the koolaid and got conned into a $20K contract to put traps in the ground. Makes me sick to my stomach.

I had respect for this channel before this video. This is so disingenuous and a broad over-generalization of the (largely avoidable) shortcoming of bait stations. The University of FL has a ton of research behind bait stations and how to properly implement them. Do better man…

Idk I don’t like this video. Why not talk about Trelona? Plus allot of people don’t have the funds to pay for a liquid treatment. So I bet that’s why there is more people with stations than liquid.

I’ve never seen a termite tech with as little knowledge of the termite industry and practices as you.

protect this guy... he's doing gods work. Ive fallowed for 2 years now and saved sooooo much money

Facts!