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The Bike Lanes You Can't See - Ontvlechten
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The Netherlands has some of the best bicycle infrastructure in the world, but some of it is completely invisible ... until you learn about ontvlechten. Dutch cities take care to separate or "disentangle" routes taken by drivers from those taken by everyone else, making their streets safer, quieter, and more efficient. These routes are determined by hoofdnetten (and plusnetten), where each form of traffic gets its own routes through the city.
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Plusnetten en hoofdnetten infrastructuur
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0:00 Intro
0:05 Bicycle infrastructure
0:44 Ontvlechten
0:57 Busy roads and suburban mazes
1:55 The Dutch approach: hoofdnetten and plusnetten
3:27 Hoofdnet examples
4:04 Filtered permeability
5:01 Hoofdnet routes for cars & bicycles
5:17 Safe and efficient road networks
6:29 Summary and conclusion
7:00 Patreon shout-out
7:12 Outro
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't actually read all 80 pages. assets.amsterdam.nl/publish/pages/865234/mobiliteitsaanpak_amsterdam_2030.pdf The document is about the mobility plan for Amsterdam between now and 2030, not just plusnetten and hoofdnetten, and it's actually pretty interesting. It definitely tests my knowledge of (and patience for) reading Dutch though.
@Ellipsis115 3 жыл бұрын
Good thing you confirmed that, I wouldn't put it past you.
@Paul_C 3 жыл бұрын
It also gives an insight why the Dutch have that 'meten is weten' mentality. And why in some instances, the city is breathtakingly slow to actually decide what to do.
@Conclusius68 3 жыл бұрын
That document is not exactly easy reading for non-native speakers. I am impressed.
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
I mostly read the Dutch version, and translated any bits that I didn't understand. It's not SO bad once you get familiar with the "urban planning" vocabulary.
@ivoboksem851 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes if you ever need any help, or are by any chance in Enschede, hit me up.
@DdW85 3 жыл бұрын
Years ago I read an article about Dutch road infrastructure. The Dutch ambassador in Ireland famously always cycled to the embassy in Dublin, but noted the lack of cycling infrastructure, despite this city being comparably flat like the Netherlands. They told him that it would cost a fortune to build all these cycle paths across the city and that the city council would never be able to find the budget to pay for it. 'Budget? What budget? Every time you have to renew the sewers, you have dug open the street anyway. At little extra cost you might as well redesign the road while you're at it. It will take 25 years, but in the end you'll end up with the same bicycle infrastructure as we have.'
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's how the Netherlands did it. They changed their road design standards, and then implemented it when they tore up the road. Every road needs to be replaces about every 30 years. So within 30 years, you could have a new city, at almost no extra cost. And reduced motor vehicle volumes also result in lower road costs, which makes it even cheaper in the long run.
@petertraudes106 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes ummm it took a grass root movement, stop de kindermoord en Nieuwmarktbuurt rebellion to change the attitude.
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
@@petertraudes106 yes, of course it took those grass-roots movements, but after it was decided to do something about the unsafe streets, it was the change in the road design standards that made it possible. The other significantly improvement was the introduction of duurzame veiligheid in the 90s.
@petertraudes106 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes Very true, but but but it takes people and politics to change the attitude. I suggest you look into the thoughts of Tjebbe van Tijen, one of the most prominent thinkers and activists of the Nieuwmarkt struggle, and ofcourse Luud Schimmelpennik, the inventor of het witte fietsenplan. (Currently very hot in Paris)
@JasperJanssen 3 жыл бұрын
Peter Traudes certainly, but it didn’t hurt that it was implemented at very low cost over a very long time. The grassroots movements would have had a hell of a time without that.
@frigginjerk 3 жыл бұрын
I (an American) always tell people that even if you are never going to walk, bike, or take a bus anywhere, and you insist on driving to the end of your own block, you should still support expanding routes and service for those things, because it means fewer cars causing traffic for you.
@bryannguyen2383 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope roads and infrastructure improve in the U.S. to accommodate more than just cars, but I really doubt anything will change quick enough :(. I know certain cities are doing better though like San Jose, in California, but that's the only example I can think of
@crispybanana3198 3 жыл бұрын
exactly, in Poland we have no to little bicycle infrastructure and it hurts everyone as cyclists have to drive near cars and car drivers have to slow down and watch out for them
@viktordtz2080 2 жыл бұрын
and causing obesity... Look people on this vidéo...
@adaslesniak 2 жыл бұрын
@@crispybanana3198 Depends. It's probably vary a lot from city to city, and then after few experiences in France I learned it's ok to have bikes on street roads, but it requires drivers culture.
@jeanyluisa8483 2 жыл бұрын
I think most Americans have another problem there. When living in pure residental areas without shops, bars etc. there are no or few targets in distance to walk or go by bike. People tend to do whats easiest for them. If I go shopping, or visit a doctor, a bar, the mail office or whatever, I go by bike, because all of this is less than 5km, mostly less than 2 km away. So it's faster, less stressy and I dont need to look for a place to park if I go by bicycle. If all those things would be 10km away and have a huge parking lot in front, I also would take the car.
@MrHenkkkie 3 жыл бұрын
A perfect example of 'ontvlechten' is the town of Houten. It was built as a planned town so urban planners and traffic engineers had the abiltiy to fully separate car and bicycle infrastructure, with the result that a town of 50.000 people only has 2 intersections where cars and cyclists meet with traffic lights. All other crossings are via bridge or tunnel. The two trains stations in the two centres in north and south are perfect to reach with bicycle as well.
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Houten is a great example! Almere, too (but Houten is a lot prettier).
@hendrikdependrik1891 3 жыл бұрын
Almere has disentanglement done wrong. Way too much urban sprawl and too much infrastructure for the people density. It's great there is a separated bus network, but that's overkill, contributes to urban sprawl and is only competition to the bicycle and not for the car.
@MrHenkkkie 3 жыл бұрын
@@hendrikdependrik1891 I agree. Both Houten and Almere were designed with mostly houses rather than appartmens, because people in the 60's didn't want to live in the small and insufficient appartments like in the Bijlmer. Almere is as a result a much larger city where buslines are needed, whereas Houten doesn't really need buses because it is very compact. And keep in mind: whereas Almere is done wrong from Dutch perspective, it is perfect from world perspective :)
@DdW85 3 жыл бұрын
But Almere and Houten are not really disentangled, as they weren't entangled in the first place.
@MrHenkkkie 3 жыл бұрын
@@DdW85 Yes that is true if you see disentangling as a process a city can go through. You can also view disentangling as a concept of a traffic system, where the disentangling takes place in the design stage.
@thetoekster6728 3 жыл бұрын
Im still amazed because this is so 'normal' for me
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have to make these videos quickly before it becomes normal for me too! :)
@thetoekster6728 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes well, i like it! Appreciate your works
@MRInuzaki 3 жыл бұрын
I hope in the future my country can call this normal also
@JZGamer 3 жыл бұрын
How lucky!
@dianthav4912 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@cearnicus 3 жыл бұрын
When people ask what one could be proud of in the Netherlands, they might say football (and no, I don't mean handegg). Or the Deltaworks, or tulips or cheese. But honestly? No. It's this right here. It's the biking/traffic infrastructure and how much thought has gone into keeping it safe. And most of us are oblivious to how good we have it here. It's only through channels like this that I became aware of it. Thank you for doing this.
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
I am amazed that every time I research more about Dutch cities, I find another clever thing that planners are intentionally doing, that they don't do anywhere else.
@Nefa35 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes You should look at the asphalt we use in our highway network. Noise reducing and spray preventing. When it's raining and you drive across the border it is literally a night to day difference. And there is still progress being made there.
@bramvanduijn8086 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nefa35 My favourite highway trick has been discontinued because it was too distracting: Musical paint. For a while they painted the edge of the highway in a pattern that plays classical music if you ride on it. It was supposed to signal the sleepy driver that they were drifting off the road, but in practice it led to people driving on the paint on purpose.
@wilbertversluis2 3 жыл бұрын
So true! Thank you indeed! @not just bikes
@moladiver6817 3 жыл бұрын
Handegg. 😂 That's golden thanks. 😄
@wikashbidesie8006 3 жыл бұрын
This is better than watching a movie. Just put a Not Just Bikes playlist on ,get a pizza and relax.
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
Save a slice for me! :)
@wimahlers 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes ... and get your pizza using a bicycle, not a car.
@truusjenskens8485 3 жыл бұрын
I have windows for hire where you can see it all live, 24 hrs a day....
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
@@wimahlers I walk to get my pizza. ;)
@wimahlers 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes ... while wearing your pedestrian helmet ... I assume ;-)
@DarthNoox 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is telling me two things: 1. Why not to move out of the Netherlands 2. Why not to move to North America
@Lara-jp4xk 3 жыл бұрын
If you watch some videos/ documentaries about food industry in North America, you'll have even more reasons to not move there.
@MrCow579 3 жыл бұрын
only reason why I would move to north america: nature. They have actual wilderness there which I'd LOVE to live in.
@Flying_Kitty 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrCow579 Finland also has great nature
@kekkewezel4615 3 жыл бұрын
@@Flying_Kitty yeah just go north to Scandinavia. It’s very similar to Canada
@Tang-qi6zw 3 жыл бұрын
There are a few places good in North America that are pedestrian decent. Downtown anchorage, AK is pretty good, with it's default pedestrian crossings, predictable one-way streets, and a long bike path connecting major parks around town (the best ones being off of the Spenard through way). Fairbanks, AK is remarkably developed for pedestrian traffic given it's an American city that gets colder than 40 below zero. I was never in want for a car when I went to school there since grocery stores, farmers markets, and any shopping I wanted to get to were very easy to get to by bike, and the bus network worked well enough if I was carrying too much (plus the buses were equipped with exterior bike racks). Boulder, CO is developed for marathon runners and long-distance cyclists, so you get good systems there. Soldatna and Sterling, AK has a parallel path for ATVs, and are so unpopulated even up in Kenai that you don't feel unsafe walking anywhere (and there are some destinations that it is quicker to walk between because of the side-roads, which you can just step over the barriers for).
@TheBaegislash 3 жыл бұрын
"Painted bicycle gutter" I'm definitely using that term to describe my city's horrible "infrastructure" now
@AwoudeX 3 жыл бұрын
we still have those gutters where there is just not enough room/financial incentives etc. to change it. I live in a rural village with 3000 people spread out over a wide area. There are many canals and next to them the typical narrow 60km/h roads with aforementioned bicycle gutters. I love those gutters because it makes the road look even more narrow and that makes drivers more carefull and aware of me when cycling. As a car driver i urge you kids out there, when you share roads with cars with bicycle gutters, be aware that it's far less safe so don't fool around on such roads for your safety and that of others. (recenlty i had kids in front of me, 5 wide, covering the entire road and playing on it which resulted in one of them falling almost in front of my car. Luckily i saw them coming miles ahead...
@FreekDijkstra 3 жыл бұрын
The proper Dutch term is "fietssuggestiestrook", suggested cycling lane. I guess that is public planner talk for "yeah, we didn't bother coming up with a good solution, we just put some paint on the road, and suggest you bike there. Don't blame us if you rather be somewhere else". (For the real nitpickers, Dutch law distinguishes between dotted painted line (fietssuggestiestroken -- only suggest you bike there, but you're on your own if a van blocks your way), solid painted lines (fietsstroken -- you must bike there, and vans are cars are not allowed to offload there), and separate bike paths (fietspaden -- proper cycling paths separate from the car traffic lanes).
@THATGuy5654 3 жыл бұрын
Same. What they call "bicycle lanes" in Milwaukee tend to elicit a "are you kidding me?" response.
@klausbrinck2137 2 жыл бұрын
They are typical for Germany, and the theory of "build safe infrastruture, and the cyclists will come" isn´t valid here, Germans will stoicaly cycle with 30 just inches away from a 16tons-truck driving 60, no problem, Germans are simply used to it, even grandmas drive like that... BUT: The right half of the "painted bicycle gutter" is the road´s edge, and essentially full of big pottholes (due to sewerage-iron-lids)... Everytime I drive on that edge, to make room for some cyclist that wants to overtake me by the left side, I´m forced to drive through all the pottholes, and there´s tons of cyclists and overtaking in German roads, similar to the Netherlands... Mainly, half of the time, you feel like you were in a shaker... ;-( Let alone, it´s mostly not even a "painted bicycle gutter" but simply "the gutter", no paint needed actually, but the pottholes won´t disappear by themselves, of course... The quality of the gutter is maybe perfectly nice for modern, spring-suspended cars, but for bikes, it´s an offroad-pit.
@tfragia1 3 жыл бұрын
This channel needs to be a College level course for civil engineers and planners. 🙏
@kenbob1071 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, some of these city planners who know better, get their palms greased by big real estate developers.
@cern1999sb 2 жыл бұрын
This is the thing I've loved most about cycling in the Netherlands. You often end up cycling completely away from car traffic, which can be through woods, parks or along rivers, which makes it really peaceful to cycle. I live in Cambridge UK these days, and while the bike infrastructure is better than most other UK cities, it is still miles away from any Dutch city in terms of cycling safety and pleasantness. The Dutch seem to be the only country who hire intelligent people to design their whole transportation system, including walking cycling, driving and public transport in all its many forms, and don't give them ear-ache every time a road had a car lane removed, because prioritising other modes of transport would actually make the city better for car drivers as well.
@freezombie 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I'd never heard of these, so I just looked up the hoofdnet map for Leiden, where I live, and it's just all the routes I'd naturally take from anywhere to anywhere in the city.
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
Locals tend to gravitate towards the hoofdnet routes without even realizing it. When I first realized that these were a thing, I changed the routes I cycled, and suddenly I was in all this new bike traffic I didn't even realize was there! :)
@rjfaber1991 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes There might be a video in that; how these bits of infrastructure are designed to be só intuitive that people just use it without even realising.
@juulvandijk5041 3 жыл бұрын
I can't find any of Leeuwarden
@madman19931612 3 жыл бұрын
I work in Leiden as a food delivery guy (by bike of course) and as soon as this video came to the point I went "I already know EXACTLY which roads are which in Leiden, simply by thinking about what bits of the city I hate to deliver in :P
@ucannotseemycomment 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel single-handedly makes me want to move to the Netherlands 👀
@savagegamer1507 3 жыл бұрын
I am moving there
@Rimuru.Tempest 3 жыл бұрын
I live there
@Rimuru.Tempest 3 жыл бұрын
But on the east side
@1970jel 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@0rbsterez 3 жыл бұрын
Move here! We have stroopwafels 😉
@quill3554 3 жыл бұрын
MY. MIND. IS. BLOWN! I am currently deciding what to study, and this video made me significantly rethink my options. Very, very interesting and intriguing.
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
It is crazy how well-thought-out Dutch cities can be. They know what they're doing here!
@steemlenn8797 3 жыл бұрын
Something for you to read: urbankchoze.blogspot.com/2014/04/japanese-zoning.html
@paveladamek3502 2 жыл бұрын
Amsterdam: A lady in a dress holding a bouquet of flowers is riding a bike. US: A lady in sweatpants is driving a car to a store 800 metres away to buy three items.
@baronjutter 3 жыл бұрын
This is something so many north american planners fail at understanding. For instance I live in Victoria, regarded as one of if not the best cities to cycle in in north america. I don't own a bike because I think its far too dangerous and inconvenient to ride here though. Sure the city is building some "AAA" cycle routes through the city (built to sub-danish standards, no protections at intersections, old disproven bike boxes and all the other worst-practices north america is stuck on as it refuses to learn from the dutch experience) but they don't do anything to "feed" that network of AAA routes. So you have these cycling highways which a lot of infrastructure, but then a grid of local streets that have nothing. Unless you live directly on one of those major cycle route streets and your destination is on one, you'll be forced to ride in busy traffic for large parts of your trip. Because rat-running is a big thing on these street grids, all streets tend to be jammed with cars. Sure the 2 lane 40kph street is a little more pleasant to ride on that then 4 lane arterial, but it's still awful. Its like building a superhighway with no offramps or feeder streets.
@Roel_dG 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrismadison305 that can be the case, but if you only have to travel 2 km why pick a car?
@Zadesniper 3 жыл бұрын
Not just the planners, the people. Nyc has tried putting in bicycle lanes etc and it gets shut down by the communities. Although with that said I believe something is in the works, Hoboken/Jersey City have done an amazing job recently with at least giving somewhat protected bike lanes down major routes. (The only two places I know and can speak for)
@ultimateo621 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrismadison305 Neither was the Netherlands, but they changed.
@rjdverbeek 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrismadison305 I am happy that you watch these types of videos and learn. I also watch videos on American car traffic and also try to learn. What I for instance learned is that in the land of the free, kids are not free and must be transported by their parents to each activity until they are at least 16 years old. Being stuck in your home until you're sixteen is 'real' freedom. It's clear that you are not living in the land of the free. Get over it.
@petertraudes106 3 жыл бұрын
It takes a grass root movement to get to where the Dutch are now.
@KootFloris 3 жыл бұрын
I think the hidden infrastructure, wired to safety, psychology and brilliant engineering should be exported, read copied, around the world, for more ecology, more physical training, more human cities, more living and less rushing. Your series is a super insightful guide to start doing that.
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@stijn4771 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I think implementing this philosophy in city planning around the world would make the world a bit of a better place
@malloott 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to post the same feeling but couldn't express it as nicely as you did, thanks
@pbilk 3 жыл бұрын
@@malloott exactly and I agree.
@KootFloris 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes Though the hidden costs might be an issue. Perhaps also make one, how how people building new neighborhoods could start implementing this from scratch, or or by repurposing streets in old cities. It may also safe costs, like for traffic lights, computers and programming, when it's mostly two different networks.
@vincenzodigrande2070 3 жыл бұрын
So if you want to shake of the police, just run through that one back yard and you'll have gained a half hour drive. 😂
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
Now you're thinking!
@rjdverbeek 3 жыл бұрын
Remember the 2nd amendment
@Cl0ckcl0ck 3 жыл бұрын
Then they release the fur missile. Another something we Dutch can be proud of is our network of private citizens and small companies training police-dogs and competing with them which has resulted in KNPV (koninklijke Nederlandse politiehonden vereniging). People buy a puppy, train it, get the best marks possible for certification in competitions, sell it to receive specialized training before being used in the field and repeat. Dogs are bred for function only (well mostly) so dogs from this program are sought after highly. The dog that forced Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi to blow himself up came from that program for example (the dog just had some minor burns). Unlike our urban planning these dogs were exported very very well. So much so that now the standard military dog and very often the police dogs too will be Dutch/Belgian (just different in the coat colors) shepherds from this program rather than the more bulky and often ruined by being bred for looks German shepherd. Such a competition: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mr-gf5WQlZzdlmQ.html
@ekevanderzee9538 3 жыл бұрын
And then the durch have bicycle police....
@kaivanloon 3 жыл бұрын
There are a couple of stories about exactly that, where people, mainly scooters, avoid police by goeing into a place the police can't get into.
@aleccooks 3 жыл бұрын
It is funny how i get frustrated when i am in a 10 min traffic jam to get into Amsterdam where as my sister, who lives in Phoenix can be in a traffic jam for an hour and say “gosh that was fast!”
@maxvandenberg955 3 жыл бұрын
And you blame Rijkswaterstaat of course :)
@klausbrinck2137 2 жыл бұрын
Till "Scotty can beam you up", the Netherlands hold the key to the next-best-solution, we have to admit... In Germany, we have nearly no infrastructure, but tons of people cycle, not much unlike the Netherlands, and it´s a blessing... And the country I originally come from (it´s not Germany), sounds just like Phoenix... ;-) In Germany, we have the best cars, people are proud of it, and MANY own one, but they know, that it´s impossible for all of us to go simultaneously on the strrets, so, MANY people cycle, when possible.
@LetsTakeWalk 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Dutch and I knew we were pretty good with Bicycles, but I never thought it was this intense and so unique to the Netherlands.
@CanyonWanderer 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Being a 55 years old Dutch native (mostly Rotterdam / The Hague area), this is the frist time I've heard this in such detail, what an excellent explanation! It is so easy to take this slow evolution for granted. I still remember the first 'Red asphalt' bike lanes appearing in my youth, when rediscovering cycling in 2018 after a really long time I noticed so much new cycling infrastructure. Not only the type you see as a car driver in everyday traffic, but especially the specific "cycling highways" that comprise the LF (Landelijke Fietsroutes) "long distance" cycling paths in NL
@marcelvanlierop 3 жыл бұрын
Those LF cycling paths are downright awesome! :)
@CanyonWanderer 3 жыл бұрын
@Ikreisrond Sorry, I did not know that at the time of writing. I was just overwhelmed by all the newly discovered infra 😀
@CanyonWanderer 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimcrelm9478 Sorry, but none of your arguments would apply when living in the Netherlands, completely different cycling infrastructure
@UtahStories 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I visited Amsterdam 20 years ago with my bike and camping gear. I was blown away by how easy they made it to get around by bike, but they seemed to do it without pissing off all of the motorists. This explains how. Why can’t American cities and suburbs adopt this model?
@RobKinneySouthpaw 2 жыл бұрын
What designers in America forget, even when making bike infrastructure (similar to the London example), is that if you send cars a few blocks out of the way it's inconvenient. But if you send bikes a few blocks out of the direct route, it is still inconvenient, but also physically taxing. You can *feel* the deviation. And because your travel speed is lower, it adds a more significant time increment.
@womenfrom0202 2 жыл бұрын
And also important, the extremely high parking per hour costs make you rethink twice before going into Amsterdam center by car. And finding a parking place is also a challenge
@ufoclips1 2 жыл бұрын
I worked 60 miles away in Eindhoven and hired a car there,i drove into Amsterdam once......ONCE!.........
@runarandersen878 3 жыл бұрын
This makes so much sense when you explain it this way. It’s obvious. I wish cityplanners, politicians and the general public would understand this. This also reduces the conflict between cars and bikes.
@yourex-wife4259 2 жыл бұрын
Theres no money in it, thats why you dont see it in NA
@kenbob1071 2 жыл бұрын
@@yourex-wife4259 Yup. I think some of these city planners are getting their palms greased by big real estate developers who have their own best interest$ in mind.
@user-zv1we9jb7u 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of stuff about American and Canadian urban planning on this channel that confuses/annoys me, but that suburb from 1:44 that has to be to worst I've seen. Completely rediculous, like just put a small road/path in between like what the frig?!
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous. It happens because there is no thought given to the overall planning: suburban neighbourhoods are designed in isolation. But there's also a mentality of not wanting "outsiders" in "your" suburb, so residents are often resistant to putting in pedestrian paths, or even sidewalks!
@petertraudes106 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes misdadig bijna
@marcovtjev 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes I wondered a bit about that same example. Here in the NLusually the far ends of cul-de-sacs are joined by pedestrian paths that are also abused by bikers (despite sluice like constructs to avoid that). Changing main infra is hard, but that would be SO easy to do. Even old neighbourhoods have such paths.
@Blackadder75 3 жыл бұрын
I never realized how bad it was in the US because the kids in the Simpsons and South Park actually do bike around.... But those shows originated in the 90s
@Landrassa1 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcovtjev I used to live in Harderwijk many years ago, which has a lot of these cul-de-sac type residential area's. You could literally throw 2 darts at a map to create a route, and it would always be faster (and typically more pleasant) to ride a bike than to take a car.
@cascadecontroller 2 жыл бұрын
Zurich has the opposite approach. There's places where you have to cross a street, then a tram track to get onto a sidewalk where pedestrians, cars and bicicles are allowed (looking at you, Hardbrücke). It's more of an entanglement.
@muffinfighter3680 2 жыл бұрын
0:26 Yeah Hamburg is garbarge when it comes to bicycle infrastructure. There is not even a tram anymore (since the 70's)
@cern1999sb 2 жыл бұрын
Every driver in the UK seems to think they're an expert on road design, because they've had to overtake a cyclist, and seem to think that the solution is to get rid of cycling. As a cyclist and a driver, I hate being forced into the road with cars, and I hate having to overtake bikes in a car. In the Netherlands this is almost never a problem, because the flows of traffic are completely separated. It's better for everyone. The networks which route different traffic down different paths (without making cycling feel like a second-class mode of transport) are also great, and I wish more city planners would do this
@edwardrow 3 жыл бұрын
I'm originally from London, Ontario too. Currently, live in Toronto - in Corktown. I am obsessed with infrastructure projects and the terrible design of these two Canadian cities. I recently discovered your channel while looking up life in The Netherlands because my partner and I have been considering it. The parallels are wild haha. Thank you for what you're doing!
@airplanewhat5316 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I live in Milano Due, a small village just next to Milan. It was designed and costructed from scratch with separation of pedestrian/ciclists and cars. The whole village is constructed at terrain level, while roads from the perimeter progressively get down at something like 2 or 3 meters from the terrain level, but their actually still there, they are not coverd with dirt, but pedestrians and cars are still amazingly separated and you dont even realise about the presence of cars. All the village is connected with small "pedestrian roads" (something like that) and a "bikes' roads" next to them, always at the terrain level, while cars 3 meters down. Those small roads are then connected with pedestrian and bike bridges that pass over the cars road. So every time I go to Milan I feel really lucky of how my village was planned, but I can see a slow (but not radical as in netherlands) change towards bike infrastructure, but it's not sufficient, because there are still too many ignorant people that dont want to ride and they dont want to give bikes their space so theyre against nearly everything bike related, but they dont realise that the spaces that luckly are already closed to traffic are now the best parts to go shopping and relax away from cars
@airplanewhat5316 3 жыл бұрын
also, there's one central road that passes from the middle of the village (but below ground level, so perfectly separated) while there's one road that passes all around the village, to arrive behind the condos' underground garages
@prplt 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised not a single comment talks about the situation at 1:45, that's just insane 😱
@qqleq 3 жыл бұрын
I've biked through London, Paris, Copenhagen, Barcelona, Berlin and many other European cities. The good thing about being Dutch is when you grow up with bikes, you can also safely bike in way more dangerous cities then the Dutch, because you are completely in control over your bike and have learned what and whom to watch in traffic. My girlfriend is from Paris and she panicks whenever she bikes, even in bike-safe Holland.
@savagegamer1507 3 жыл бұрын
Wow
@kalle911 3 жыл бұрын
I remember my first time in Netherlands, my friend had been there for several years. "you do what with your bike!!??! turn left?!?!" Now that I've biked for three years in a non-Netherlands environment and having gone through three collisions with cars.. Yeah, I think I'm getting it now.
@obi-wankenobi4056 3 жыл бұрын
Ive biked in Barcelona and made a frontflip because I braked too hard. Ouch... Edit: It was from a descent from a very steep hill, something we dont have here in the Netherlands. Hills freak me out man 😬
@bramvanduijn8086 3 жыл бұрын
That has not been my experience at all, I don't know how to bike anywhere but here. It is precisely because I am used to cycling in Almere that I have very little experience with sharing a road with cars. I get really stressed if 800 cars overtake me in a 15 minute brikeride, in my experience it means I've made a mistake and ended up on the highway: It feels very dangerous.
@electricboi9319 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it would be the other way around: that because you are used to the safe bicycle network of the netherlands, you feel unsafe and nervous in countries with bad or no cycling infrastructure because you're not used to these bad conditions.
@klaasdeboer8106 2 жыл бұрын
A very good example, under construction, is the inner ring of Amsterdam, around the 19th century fortifications, on the outside there has always been the s100 ring for cars, with uneven concrete tiles as a bicycle path on the sides. Only about a hundred meters inside of this ring there is the inner ring for bicyces and trams, and it is being resurfaced as fietsstraat, in smooth red asfalt, all around the city center. (Another reason to avoid the center ;-)) This fietsstraat is working so well, even with cars as guests, just because there is a good alternative for cars, so you will only drive your car in there if you really have to be there, for example to pick up something like a washing machine.
@Mxm0320 3 жыл бұрын
I have lived, studied and cycled in Amsterdam for 10 years. I now realise that I didn’t appreciate the cycling infrastructure enough at the time. Eye opening videos!
@mourlyvold7655 3 жыл бұрын
I urge you (for ease of mind) to send flowers to the town hall every week for a year, as penance. I promise, you'll feel better... 😁
@quentinl.9072 3 жыл бұрын
This is next level.
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
The Dutch, man. They know how to design cities.
@shadeblackwolf1508 2 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes we gained some experience with it thanks to the Flevoland project, and the lessons learned from rebuilding Rotterdam, and went from there
@MagerKonijn 3 жыл бұрын
These videos always make me proud of my country
@philipe1502 3 жыл бұрын
You're lucky these aren't gastronomy videos 😂 jk
@taha8798 3 жыл бұрын
@@philipe1502 LOL! thank god for their colonies otherwise the food in amsterdam would have been dreadful!
@OldClam5 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so envious of this type of infrastructure. Would love to see more of this being adopted in US cities.
@matthewconstantine5015 3 жыл бұрын
This got me thinking about when I cycled a lot in the area I live in (sadly, not for some years). There's very little infrastructure for cycling, so I had to find my own ways to get around safely. I worked 5 miles away, but trying to go in a direct way was not only dangerous, but involved having to get off my bike and walk it for about 20 minutes because of a historic downtown area that was 100% hostile to bikes. I eventually found a path that added more than 3 miles to my trip, but took the same amount of time because I never had to get off my bike. It was, for the most part, safer and had a better flow. But to say the least, it was not intuitive. I had to study maps and do a lot of experimental trips before I struck upon the route. Considering I live just outside Washington D.C. in one of the richest areas of the country, it's frustrating that there's so little infrastructure for pedestrians or cyclists.
@tokyosite 3 жыл бұрын
i always watch your videos without commenting, which i should change because i enjoy them so much! its always so interesting even though i had no previous interest in urban planning. also your voice is very pleasant!
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoy them! And I get to tell my wife again that somebody thinks my voice is pleasant. 😂
@terryterhaar7495 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a new video!!! I find myself longing for your vids and I dont even watch infrastructure videos in general I just like the quality of your vids and to learn things about my country that I did not know before
@Earth098 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is my favorite urban planning channel. I love the way he explains things very clearly, with no distractive background music
@domestik834 3 жыл бұрын
Damn. Cities all over the world seem to make the same mistakes. Those "quiet routes" are the biggest part in a new "bicycle friendly" infrastructure which is planned in my city, Aken, just literally 0km away from the Netherlands, but in Germany. Thanks for pointing out the problems which I see in those structures, too. Keep up the good work. I love to see all the aspects for better alternatives to cars.
@Cl0ckcl0ck 3 жыл бұрын
Just sell them the plan by claiming it's a way to make things faster and more efficient for cars. :)
@GaiaGoddessOfTheEarth 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who bikes almost daily in American suburbs these videos always make me so jealous. Not having to chose between terribly neglected sidewalks (that seem to be designed for the sole purpose of spiting bikes) or riding next to cars going 40+ MPH (65+ KPH) would be amazing.
@jimzecca3961 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it illegal to ride your bike on the sidewalk in most places? AKA, you should be riding on the streets following the same rules as cars. Not that it's safe to do so in many places.
@mrmofdog 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know what it is about these videos but they just always hit the spot
@woutervanr 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's something I really don't understand in American/Canadian suburbs. Why would you not have the alleys we have here to take a shortcut as a pedestrian? Surely that can only happen if they assume that 100% of the people use a car to move about?
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the assumption is that everyone will drive, so this is unnecessary. It's the same reason that some of these neighbourhoods do not have sidewalks.
@cearnicus 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes And since it _is_ the only option, then _of course_ people will drive. Sigh, the shortsightedness of it all :(
@hendrikdependrik1891 3 жыл бұрын
N00bs have designed those neighbourhoods. N00bs want easy access by car and no people around their house. Plenty of people in the Netherlands that hate a main route bicycle path through their backyard. It's a route they can't access by car, they can't increase their gardens over the bike path and bike thieves and other criminals on scooters have escape routes with less social safety compared to roads for cars. Fortunately, the Netherlands looks to the needs of the people while the rest of the world is looking what the majority of the people (which mostly are infrastructure n00bs) want and just serving it without any reconsiderations aside from costs.
@3of11 3 жыл бұрын
If you attempt to do that it most suburbs you will be met with fierce resistance by the occupants. Most of these are gated communities and they want ONLY one or two ways in or out for anyone. Hardly any one is going to “need” to walk from one subdivision to another because there is nothing but other houses for a couple miles radius minimum. In these areas people barely know their neighbor. Want to know why so many Americans are paranoid and Xenophobic. They basically live in solitary confinement.
@Vespuchian 3 жыл бұрын
@@3of11 Ah, gated communities, aka voluntary ghettos.
@maxtillie 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, love the Crappy London vs. Real London distinction
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
If there's only one thing I want people to take away from this channel, it's to know that there is a "London" in Canada ... and it's crappy.
@dennisverweij4817 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes But both are still on the Thames river.
@renanfilipe7459 3 жыл бұрын
Your content is awesome, it's chilling to watch and informative at the same time. A little precious gem I've found on KZfaq. Thanks
@maglorian 3 жыл бұрын
I'll have you know that I'm now going to read a 80 pages document from a gemeente I don't even live in, See What You Have Done!!! (thanks, I loved the video)
@twistedmezelf 2 жыл бұрын
pretty fun to see you feature maps i've recently started working on. dedicated mobility plans are becoming the norm in the netherlands and its quite intriguing to see how extensive the process is for designing such plans.
@Walterwaltraud 2 жыл бұрын
"two ton death machines" - spot on. Always a question of perspective.
@adamgilleece4936 3 жыл бұрын
So crazy. I started watching your videos before I moved to Amsterdam from the U.S. I’ve been here for about a month now and I recognize just about every street in this video. You go right by my student housing!
@mhjmstultiens 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you like staying in our country! :)
@whoeveriam0iam14222 3 жыл бұрын
Where i used to live they were building a new neighborhood. There used to be a road between fields. The fields became houses and they added a zig zaggy road for the houses to be on. When that road was finished the straight road got poles and a pink color so cars had to take the very slow and windy road while bikes got a fast path I've seen other neighborhoods with the same plan. Straight riad through limited to bikes and very windy roads for cars Whoever came up with that obvious solution deserves a medal
@ashaman8567 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, the Dutch traffic engineers really contend with some high level design, I’m impressed with both how pleasant and efficient the design is for the users and impressed with the genius of the designers.
@mvdwege 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not normally the kind of guy to go "Netherlands, rah, rah, rah!", but one thing does make me happy to have been born and living here: we deliver world class civil engineers, and it shows. Yes, they have their blind spots (the orthodoxy is still to see e.g. motorway flow as a fluid dynamic, which leads to some questionable design decisions that *increase* jams), but when it comes hydro-engineering, road design, and any other civil engineering task, I'll take a Delft or Twente graduate over anyone in the world.
@ian-titusmanta7399 2 жыл бұрын
I've experienced this sort of infrastructure for the first Tim when I Moved to Freiburg (Germany) to study. And it's so great, sometimes I would take visitors for a Bike ride through the City just to show them how relaxing it can be.
@davebalmada 3 жыл бұрын
As always, the quality of your videos is great! I also like how you showed a variety of places, from Zuidoost and Duivendrecht to Zuid and the Center.
@f1freakf127 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Amsterdam! I would love to move there and cycle all the time
@TheoHiggins 2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking "I wish he'd talk about Real London, we've got great public transport, but very congested car-prioritised roads and almost no cycling infrastructure to speak of" And second later you bring up the Quietways, nice
@locturallylocs9097 3 жыл бұрын
Feeling so greatful watching this video while out for a walk on a street in The Netherlands with a nice big sidewalk and a large bicycle lane separating the bikes from the other traffic.
@Dave-gw6wh 3 жыл бұрын
This is really high level content, i love it!!! Keep doing what you are doing!
@touristicvenus 3 жыл бұрын
when i started biking as a delivery boy i really started noticing these highways. Once you find them you will be everywhere so much faster and have a great ride! Look at stadhouderskade wich is a mess, but if you take the bike street at sarphatistraat you have a nice bike enviroment!
@rick0201 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you ‘Super Jew’
@bahatitx 3 жыл бұрын
2:25 he said 's Hertogenbosch just to flex😂😂
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
Now that I've finally figured out how to pronounce it, there's no way I'm going to go back to calling it "Den Bosch". 😆
@TjerkFD 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes The locals use Den Bosch more than most internationals tho😅
@MaPiVe59 3 жыл бұрын
@@TjerkFD I'm local from 's-Hertogenbosch, I never use "Den Bosch"; (During the carnaval-period I call my hometown "Oeteldonk") But I always use my bike to get somewhere in my city, the bike-infrastructure is excellent. And a lot large guarded underground bike parks (for free) in the inner city.
@TjerkFD 3 жыл бұрын
@@MaPiVe59 maybe it's just the youngsters, all my friends use it and we've all lived there our whole life
@ricogeuze923 3 жыл бұрын
@@TjerkFD There even exists a "Committee of the Promotion of the Use of the Name 's Hertogenbosch.
@YiaMdj 3 жыл бұрын
This channel has surprisingly really helped me appreciate this country more
@thescrewfly 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the location tags throughout. Very useful.
@mostafahashish2923 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of my fav channels. Thanks for the consistent thoughtful analysis!
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoy it. I find this stuff fascinating, and it turns out some other people do, too! :)
@mostafahashish2923 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes yeah, between living Dubai and Cairo, remembering A'dam is like transportmagic. I just sent the video to a friend and when he saw the exciting 80-page doc comment - he was like "oh, it's a canadian you!"
@sanderlmgent 3 жыл бұрын
Am studying urban planning and damm they hate cars here just like me 🙃
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
Cars are a super-useful tool, and I use them myself, but you can't learn about urban planning and not be totally dismayed at how much they destroyed cities. Or rather, how much we destroyed our cities to fit them in. It makes me wonder what future technology will seem *so* compelling to us that we completely upend our society for it.
@RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the 80s,i hated our anti-car policy. Now i am stil a huge car lover,and a cyclist. I think thats the biggist problem outside our Netherland.
@3of11 3 жыл бұрын
Not Just Bikes smartphones.
@AwoudeX 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes The smartphone is the single thing that has made the death toll in Dutch traffic rise again since the 70's shot you showed. I drive a sizeable van and therefor sit quite high in traffic, i can see what others are doing behind the wheel, and boy how often i see them watch down on a screen and not in front of them... If you think cars are the problem, try compute this: a cyclist ended up on the highway in the Netherlands because he or she couldn't stop watching the damn smartphone screen. I mean, i need to make a conscious effort to even get near a highway in the Netherlands by bike...
@autohmae 3 жыл бұрын
@@AwoudeX Maybe he or she was used to driving there by car ? :-)
@bryanverhagen8831 3 жыл бұрын
If there is something I learned in Not Just Bikes' videos it's that we dutchies take our entire country for granted. I personally live in a small town (about 2000 people) and I can get anywhere without a car. I study in Utrecht and by car it takes about an hour to get to my school. I get there in 50 minutes combining cycling, busses, trains and trams. I cycle to my nearest busstop, drive on the bus to the nearest trainstation, take the train to Utrecht, hop on a tram to the school district (Science Park) all in les time then I spend driving. I love my country's infrastructure
@pawn_b4159 3 жыл бұрын
The Merenwijk in Leiden is a large neighbourhood (~15k citizens) which has a big bicycle-only road going straight through, heading towards Leiden Centraal. Halfway through, the road splits into three different options that cyclists can take to efficiently reach different parts of the city centre, or the station. What is amazing, is that you only encounter any cars once you've reached the city centre. Its name is the Broekweg (once a small polder road), but we locally call it the 'aorta' of the neighbourhood, which fits perfectly, as hardly anyone takes the car to the centre unless they need to transport goods and it's always full of cyclists. You can ask *anyone* here about it; they'll know what you're talking about. There's a lot that can still be improved in the neighbourhood, but this one bicycle lane is a blessing, and this video surely helped me appreciate it more! www.fietsberaad.nl/CROWFietsberaad/media/Kennis/Bestanden/Fietsverkeer%20GVVP%20Leiden%20def%20WJ.pdf?ext=.pdf (The hoofdnet for Leiden, page 16, the Merenwijk routes are in red)
@Rimuru.Tempest 3 жыл бұрын
WE NEED TRAINS PART 2 PLZ
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh. I planned to film it when I was in Canada but my trip got cancelled because of Corona. ☹
@renzo2able 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes that darn virus
@pbilk 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes oh darn. I almost forgot about that series. Need some local Canadian videographers? 😉
@Rimuru.Tempest 3 жыл бұрын
i like trains
@yaminospira6455 2 жыл бұрын
Biking in my home town is trash. It’s just a painted skinny line, but the “road” is made of two different materials. I always joke that the city is just trying to cost by having half the bike lane made up by the sidewalk concrete and the other half the normal road. What this leads to is a crack right in the middle and I fear my road bike tire will get caught in it and I will get tossed in front of a car
@pbilk 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video and great things to learn about. Especially the urban planning part. 😊👍🏻
@dabrentie 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are really enjoyable to watch your videos. Me as teenager around 13. It’s pretty cool to hear your thoughts of the Netherlands, where I live.
@mdhazeldine 3 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't everybody do it this way?! Every urban planner in the world should watch this channel!
@adrienrenaux6211 2 жыл бұрын
I think this video is one of the most important one to show to everybody to explain why we're not just weirdos on bikes that want to annoy drivers
@namla777 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know we had those plans. But thanks for showing the things we normally don't think about, just using it without thinking about it
@unknownentity330 3 жыл бұрын
Super video, everything you say has substance to it. Top marks sir!
@MomberyMochi 3 жыл бұрын
We need this in Los Angeles so bad!
@freudsigmund72 3 жыл бұрын
not just in LA. Virtually all town and cities in the US can benefit from this approach.
@kristoffersparegodt420 3 жыл бұрын
The entirety of the world
@54Nt1460CD 3 жыл бұрын
L.A also needs a good subway network like that of Seoul and Tokyo. The city is way to big to rely only on bicycles. L.A needs trains and trams desperately.
@TheRampax 3 жыл бұрын
In watching your videos, I like the way everyone seems relaxed, and looks out for one another. Nobody has to brake hard, even at cycle route cross roads people just casually slow a little to allow the perpendicular flow through. There doesn't seem to be any "attitude" from any of the different types of road users. That just seems unimaginable in the UK.
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's a very "egalitarian" approach. You don't get that feeling that one group considers them superior to everyone else, and generally people are accommodating in traffic.
@mourlyvold7655 3 жыл бұрын
All our motorists were born and raised as cyclists, makes a difference.
@mindstalk 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard of Japan having similar concepts, but there's some similar effect, at least in Osaka. Along main roads, bikes are mostly separable from death machines by the availability of wide sidewalks, though you'd still need to use a crosswalk or walk your bike up/down some stairs to cross intersections. Residential streets are 30 KPH, naturally slow because they're winding and shared with bikes and pedestrians. So the effect is a whole lots of streets that are safe to walk or bike in, in between busy roads where you stay on sidewalks and maybe use over/under passes.
@rikenequist5833 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! We call these streets 'fietsstraten' (bicycle streets) which means that bikes have priority there. And the word 'ontvlechten" (disentangle) has stress on the second syllable not on the first
@Leon-un8jy 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Hamburg and I love how you used it as a negative example.
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I like Hamburg, but that street in front of the Hauptbahnhof ... just terrible.
@Leon-un8jy 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes Unfortunatley not the only terrible one. Right now I'm actually living in Helsinki which has decent bike infrastructure.
@al-du6lb 3 жыл бұрын
Will you do a video on the different between American and Dutch yard work culture? The time, money and wasted space put into the American lawn is absolutely insane.
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
My wife and I bought a house with a yard and we *hated* it. Neither of us are gardeners, so it was just a bunch of unnecessary work. Our neighbours just paid someone to do it for them. But so much of the US and Canada makes owning a yard a *requirement* because of setback requirements and minimum lot sizes. They have literally made it illegal to build a house without a big yard.
@al-du6lb 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotJustBikes I lament every time I have to mow the lawn. I would like a garden, but not the lawn. I know in Germany (probably in Netherlands too) there are small lots close by where people can rent to have a garden if they wish. This seems like a nice compromise and because all the gardens are together people can share gardening equipment.
@Landrassa1 3 жыл бұрын
@@al-du6lb Yes, we have those too, we call them volkstuinen. Unfortunately what does happen a lot is that people opt for "low maintenance gardens" (mostly pavement) which has a negative effect on both water management as well as reducing the available biosphere for all kinds of bugs and birds.
@thekingoffailure9967 3 жыл бұрын
@@Landrassa1 Lots of people here in Canada are opting to cover their yard with gravel or woodchips. They cut down bushes so they don't have to bother maintaining them... so much workable land goes completely wasted simply because people want a buffer between them and the SPOOKY strangers on the street. I'd LOVE to own a garden but I live in a walk up without even a balcony. Every day I walk past these wasted covered yards and wonder if by the time I can afford a house with a yard, will they even exist?
@jimzecca3961 3 жыл бұрын
It's important to remember in a lot of suburbs, especially closer to rural areas, you need larger lots to handle your septic system and to not overtax the water supply since everyone has their own well.
@TreniFS_ 3 жыл бұрын
This! A few years ago I was thinking about how in my city streets are often too narrow to build a proper tram lane, and I realized that there was a street in my neighbourhood that by chance has the tram on a calm street and has a lot of car traffic on a parallel road. I thought that it would be great to do this everywhere on purpose, I didn't know it's already a thing where you live! It's nice to see this exists, can't wait for when we're going to do the same in the 31st century!
@mourlyvold7655 3 жыл бұрын
I must warn you that waiting for the 31st century will actually demand some patience on your side... 😉
@amcaesar 3 жыл бұрын
I never thought to consider the complexion differences in those routes, but now that you point it out it seems obvious.
@flp322 3 жыл бұрын
Huh, this has always been something I love about Delft. Didn't know they actually do this nationwide. That's good! In Delft they've replaced some streets which were mainly used by cyclists anyway with either cycling streets or full-on cycling paths, which is wonderful. E.g. the Zuideinde, Leeghwaterstraat, and Mercuriusweg
@leonleber7059 3 жыл бұрын
I would love if you could make a video about the traffic reforms in Groningen in the 70s/80s. The so called circulatieplan. And you know whats harder than reading a 80 pages document. Making one, and yes i worked on a couple as student 10 years ago
@SebiStr99 2 жыл бұрын
I've always thought of Graz (Austria) as pretty decent in terms of public transport and bicycle infrastructure, but this channel showed me how much there is to improve on. I really hope that we take Dutch cities as examples for future planning, because everything I've seen so far is pretty amazing
@c_p1858 3 жыл бұрын
Dit yt kanaal maakt me toch altijd weer even blij dat ik hier in NL woon
@domesticatedpanda 3 жыл бұрын
Can we get a video of you reading out all 80 pages of the mobility plan? Your voice is soothing and relaxing, and it would definitely help me and many others to fall asleep at night :)
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
You do *not* want to hear me reading Dutch. My voice would not be so "soothing and relaxing" when every other word is pronounced incorrectly. 😂
@gorkemgulan 3 жыл бұрын
I am also very impressed by animal crossings. Not the game but the bridges over highways connecting forrests.
@mourlyvold7655 3 жыл бұрын
I used to work in forestry and had to daily traverse one that was a combination bike path/ animal crossing (it's very wide). Meeting deer most every morning. Even saw badgers every now and then. They are great and, in contrast to some people's believes, work very well! Are you Turkish?
@broomkadencio 3 жыл бұрын
this made me interested to bike to work,nice channel,subbed!
@tulipprintprint8158 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best place for bicycle ride
@roald0411 3 жыл бұрын
Hi @NotJustBikes, Could it be an idea for you to make a video about the difference in driving exams in the Netherlands and other countries? Maybe you can also try a driving exam yourself (practicals and theoretical). And did you know that children here in the Netherlands also have to take a bicycle exam at school?
@mediataal 3 жыл бұрын
Again a great video. Very good insights.
@NotJustBikes 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ucannotseemycomment 3 жыл бұрын
How did you comment an hour ago when the video was posted 4 minutes ago??? 🤯
@Rimuru.Tempest 3 жыл бұрын
Patreon i think
@mediataal 3 жыл бұрын
Celsius I am a Patreon So I get early access. Great way to support this channel with great content.
@kallevanschagen113 3 жыл бұрын
as an Amsterdammer i love this channel, gives me insight into things I see as normal and shows me what its actually worth.
@Walterwaltraud 2 жыл бұрын
Well the best plan going forward is still to go Quietways first (especially for paths used by kids, students etc.) to do it with a low cost, straight connection, safety first, gain traction and support ideal and THEN or parallely imitate what you perfectly outlined Amsterdam did (love your videos, this is the best one of all of them actually). Do the roads when you redo the infrastructure anyway, but make sure the parallel direct roads get priority for conversion without resistance. Keep up the good work!!
@williamdion1236 3 жыл бұрын
You should check out Le Plateau Mont-Royal in Montreal, it's a neighborhood slowly transforming into a dense bicycle-friendly area
@DinosaurVid 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know about that, that's fascinating! Taking notes for Cities Skylines :P (also, half the joy of watching these videos is looking out for the times you cycle through my neighbourhood/places I know otherwise)
@snepNL 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for another great insight in the world of the dutchies!
@laramiles8063 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! It’s giving me ideas for improving walking in YYT