Sorry mister your starting to make too much sense, feel bad for being rational and trying to see anything more than a label for bad people, shame

@@Killthefish I read somewhere that humanity should fear their history but not hide from it, because it will always find you.

Why is everyone talking about Nazis in this comment thread. This film about WWI. The Germans were not Nazis at this point in history.

@@CT99234 you mean 2 guys talking about their ideas of why people throwing nazi as a insult when in reality it's much darker than just a word, you didnt gave to reply my guy but your right, they wernt nazi's, yet, how does that change our conversation? We know what nazis are we dont need to wait for the second movie to find out

we can call it what is it. Nobody is penalized for having conversations about NAZIS or Hitler. What the fuck do you think we are doing right this second??? Are you high?

The windmill boys and their friends the fag band and the sunny lads.

I mean, it is pretty funny.

Yes

Never thought of that one!

All Quiet on the Western Front is about WWI not WWII Nazis.

karma is sweet

Roland friesler

"It is God's verdict", to quote one morgue worker who saw Friesler's remains wheeled in. According to Luise Jodl (wife of Alfred Jodl, himself quite the evil piece of work), nobody else in the room, herself included, said anything afterwards. It was basically a mic drop. The best part, however, is that not only was the lieutenant colonel whose Flying Fortress led the raid -one Robert Rosenthal - Jewish, but he had no idea he'd killed Friesler until after the war. A rabid anti-Semite who (presumably) believed the Jews controlled everything was accidentally annihilated by a Jew who didn't even know he was there. A fitting end.

​@@keyabrade1861Ah. Gotta love this. 😊

@@keyabrade1861god that’s good

And thats a good thing, i feel not enough realise the real horrors of war

i did

That's freaking awesome. Thanks for sharing!

Wendigoon or already knew about it lol?

Unfortunately, they didn’t include any WWI vets in the 2022 version

@@FunkBastid as they all have died already

I agree! But even if more speak out, who's gonna stop YT from forcing their rules on us?

@@alphadawg81yeah I miss old KZfaq before ads n all this bs

Wanna bet corporate channels never face these problems???

DoublespeakTube

Some people here agree with YT on censorship, :(

I'm french and both sides of my family fought in the front lines. One of my great grandfather was a captain and barely survived a gas attack while rushing to put his mask on (left permanent scar on lungs i think) he vividly wrote the terror of the germans emerging from the smoke and the chaos that ensued. He was captured and placed in a german POW camp and actually had wrote down the German treatment of them was respectfully and honorable (unlike the nazis that would come after). He even drew a pretty detailed map of the camp, for what reason,to escape or not, we really don't know but its a nice drawing. I think it was my great grandfathers brother, but he unfortunately suffered severe shell shock (PTSD) and life was extremely difficult for him to do day to day tasks. His marriage that was planned before his service was called off when he returned as he was such a state of disarray..pretty sad really

My great grandfather fought in ww1 and my grandpa says he came back just fine. He was over all neutral to it all other than the feeling of it was his responsibility to have done so. One story he liked of his dads time there was how one night they were shooting artillery towards their position, and one landed so close to the trench it blew the tent cover away from where they were sleeping in the trenches, and a bunch of people panicked and started running, and my great grandpa just went back to sleep thinking it was probably safest to stay where he was, plus he was absolutely exhausted

I had 2 great grandfathers, that due to their thankfull young age endet up being double veterans. One was rather short, not yet dwarfism, but what happens, when you're a rural outta there farmhelper + mining teenboy. His top height was 1,58m. This didn't give him ANY bonus points beeing in a charging infantry line, but the slightly more "prestigious" position of sapper / tunnel digger. Also being short helps in that case, that the enemy is spotting everyone, before they see you. He was a heeeaaavy drinker, due to his post war job leaving him enough "free time to think" when not beeing at home with the wife (who was bigger then him) and his son (who was DEFENATLY bigger then him). But thankfully not shellshocked. But mostly always tired and somewhat scrawny, no matter how much he ate. And he had an appetite, that would put a nowadays american to shame. He died peacefully, but for sure, never talked about the war, which turned bad for his son.

The other double vet coped the loss of two world wars, his potential second child who gotten to the sixth day and then called it a life (RIP lil Grunkle Leopold), the missed opportunity to join up a little settlement in chicago city, still looking for a properly staffed honorable drugstore keeper and his dear wife just 2 months after the war that dragged him back out of the homestead for a second time, he became a bit of a Dr jekyll and Mr Hyde. If the day was good, he was a hard working drugstore keeper with two employes, security for the shop (two trained sweet german shepherds, they where slightly smaller back then). The dogs kept good care of his wife and daughter, while he was out, while also keeping the snooping noses of party brownnosers off his ground and bookshelves. Just WW1 alone created a hidden monster, who can scare a teacher to almost death just from speaking, after his daughter came back home with a ripped ear, due to her teacher discipling her too hard. Who said after the invasion of poland was emergency broadcast on the radio, that if he knew the godamn godlost Nazi Fat Cats where dragging his families asses into an even bigger obscenety of humanity, he'd taken the next ship to New york and then earn tickets for lil Ruthie and grandé Thessa. He was later a rather silent recluse after running his bigass shop. retiring a made man with a merrily wed daugher, but no wife and no doggos. Still good company, but seriously despizing his "In Law comrades" coping mechanisms. But thats civillian class struggle below the ruling ceiling.

@@WolfHagenSdW It is an interesting phenomenon how most people who went through horrors of war won't talk about it. I could cite my grandfather, who fought with Partisans against both German occupiers and Croatian puppet-fascist state, which eventually landed him in German prison, thankfully not extermination camp. He was fond of retelling of stories and anecdotes from his past, even about how resistance worked and some funny cock-ups, his relationship with my grandma, who was also a part of resistance... really, any subject (especially geography and his pornography collection), but even as he recognised my interest in history, whenever I (or anyone else) would try to get him to talk about his war and prison experiences, or how it worked, he'd clam up. I'd understand not wanting to rehash the humiliating and painful things that happened to him, but he wouldn't talk even about the events. Again, after the civil war that broke apart Yugoslavia, although none of my friends nor family participated in it in the slightest, my then boyfriend knew several guys who had been in the war, and again, when asking about their experiences of the battlefront, they simply wouldn't talk about it, no matter how drunk, high... not a word about it would come out. The most I got from them was "I never thought I would be fighting for _that_ kind of outcome/country" (meaning, what former Yugoslavian republics, that became countries, turned into).

See, I can understand censoring Nazis/Neonazis. But if you start auto censoring words you get something else entirely.

@@birbdad1842 bad ideas grow in darkness, as they become exciting because they are taboo. The stuffy shirted authorities don't want you to know about them which makes them tantalizing, forbidden knowledge. Bad ideas must be challenged and discussed openly in the light.

@@birbdad1842 that is how you get cod vanguard

​​@@birbdad1842mmm, considering that the victor writtes the history, you have to be stupid to believe the narrative around ww2. everything that is happening in the world now, all the degeneracy and chaos is caused by the outcome of the 2nd world war. murica and the bankers won but humanity lost.

​@@birbdad1842 I side with Lithuanians on this one, how ever you treat nazis, that's how you treat commies. Ban swastica? Ban Hammer and Sickle too. In case you need convincing, as a Finn I start with two counts of treason.

that was on the og movie

this reminds me of blm and Muslims🎉

@@luringen947 " Peaceful " protest footage.

Ill watch that instead of this crybaby lol i dont even make videos and i know you cant say sensitive stuff like that in videos. Dude acts all surprised and stuff

@@Khornecussion yeah cause right wingers are always so peaceful when they show up to counter protest XD

I am beginning to have serious doubts about whether what youtube is doing is legal or not (depending on context). I am no lawyer, but it appears to me they are censoring widely available information. Just my opinion.

It really shows how much like the Nazis YT has become Policing speech. How about screw off YT I'm going to say whatever the hell I want.

And yet every other history KZfaqr I subscribe to say Nazi and Hitler in many videos without getting taken down. So….most likely bullshit then?

@@ryandavies4197haha. You mean white nationalists, right?

Makes me wish a new uncle Ted would appear and send youtube HQ a "love" letter. For legal reasons, this is a joke.

If the movie doesn't make them human it's propaganda.

@@newtpondskipper Based opinion.

​@newtpondskipper ay yo thank you for sharing this quote. idk why, but that quote brought joy to my heart lol

Not a movie but I'm suggesting an animated series you may like The Long Long Holiday French countryside children going through German occupation in WW2

@@dreysantillan i have heard about it just have to find it

to quote the old song "isn't it ironic" that a piece about censorship and looking at historical truth without a filter gets censored because it mentions the involved parties... well, that's what happens if you use algorithms and "AI" to moderate content.... And while as a historian I (naturally ) disagree on some of the conclusions by Mr Bell and am quite amused by the mangling of the German language, this is a very valid piece and a very valid non-propagandistic PoV. So yeah thanks for taking a stand and doing this again and again Yatzee boys is actually quite good... you might want to consider GröFaz for Herr Adolf H (old historic abbreviation by Germans for "größter Führer aller Zeiten" which was his Yatzee-internal honorific ). Then again that might be another case of weird mangling^^

Its always sad to prohibit people from expressing themselves, especialy in the name of liberty. Fire with fire and as wise man said “I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”

True, especially History. what was said about it? oh, yeah, "those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it"... sad really.

History that is forgotten is bound to be repeated. Censorship of history is a sure way to forget how and why a historical event happened.

I don't think you need to describe every last gruelty from the movie in intricate detail to get your message across. I actually quite appreciate the fact that he doesn't show it or only describes it with very little detail. Because I found a lot of it quite disturbing and I'd rather not be confronted with it again.

Makes you think about why someone in charge would want you to forget. Maybe youtube isn't the good guy they say they are

⁠@@-gibby538They definitely aren’t. They censor topics they don’t like but allow problems such as sex bots and corn to remain on the app.

@@-gibby538 likely not youtube censoring, this type of subject has been covered many many many times on youtube, it's likely just advertisers, they hold the power here on youtube.

Yup

@@Fleatohave you seen the people running KZfaq? Definitely are the ones censoring.

I will also say this here. I wish those we lost so long ago rest in peace and I wish we never see another War like this again. If we do not study or learn from history we will lose more young men to fanatism and to the gears of war and political barons who do not care for us but the money they line their pockets with.

The 1930 one is way better

1930 one is nightmare fuel..... Or a PTSD simulator

MALE youth of a generation

​@@doltBmBnot true at all. All suffer during war.

When Johnny Got His Gun is another good anti war piece of media.

Grossman in general is just a great writer. I think everyone would benefit from reading really any of his works.

snipers on the eastern front by sepp allerberger ive never read something so cruel and bloddy so detached from all humanity and at the same time being so human through the real depiction of actual warfare

Hey its nice to see there's no spazz talking about "come and see" when it comes to this subject. There's a difference between a good antiwar film and propaganda trash.

@@SpookyScaryGangRapingSkeleton i mean come and see was realistic as it depicted the dirlewanger brigade which was so devilish that even ss officers displayed disgust when in contact with them

You should. It's an excellent book. That movie sort of misses it's point by connecting his story to all these historically significant events. It's just the average, insignificant, brutal story of a German soldier who fought and died and it didn't really matter. Totally different story.

The 2022 film doesn’t do the story justice, and the peace negotiation scenes were not part of the original story as told.

Also if you want one thats slightly more modern Catch 22

It’s still a teenage resistance book, but ain’t stupid haha

Infantry attacks, helmet for my pillow, generation kill, with the old breed, and one bullet away are all great memoirs of various wars. Starship troopers is a fiction story but loaded with great imagery and messaging regarding war. I read all of them when I was in the military.

Lions of Kandahar, The Only Thing Worth Dying For and Sled Driver are also amazing books about war/high-level special ops stories

The Things They Carried is a really good novel on The Vietnam war

Reminds you of certain country in Europe in 30s and 40s...

its better over moderated then undermoderated.

@ImperativeGames it's more like that country from 1919 to 1928 or so.

@@datcheesecakeboi6745why?

@@mitchelldkirby wym why? I'd rather have people say no no Germans instead of nutters praising the nazis

This movie sucks, watch the older one it is alot better.

While I liked this movie in its own way and felt it was a decent representation of how brutal war is, I actually prefer the 1979 and 1930 versions as they stay more true to the book. 1979 was my first version and probably my favorite out of all of them though. I feel you get a better background of the characters and you feel like you know them better.

@@MetalsirenIXI which version? 1930? Or 1979?

@@RadRicardo446 That is precisely what I like about this version. You do not get to know the characters and form bonds with them. They are just cogs in the destructive war machine and go down with no good reason and without anyone remembering them.

@@quuaaarrrk8056 There were a few scenes that were left out of the new version that disappointed me unfortunately. One being when Paul returns home and goes back to his old instructor. I feel it was such a powerful scene and didn't know why they would leave it out. In addition, which version of the foxhole/frenchman scene did you like the most? I like all versions of it and I feel all are emotional in their own way.

Warmongers love pacifists. Easy victims.

The rest of his life? Is he dead?

​@@bcolt1911obviously someone who acted in a 1930 movie is dead. He'd be over a 110 otherwise. He died almost 30 years ago.

So he larped as a German and it changed him that much? 😂 Of course God forbid we let the actual truth out, that lots of Germans welcomed the war enjoyed their time in the trenches and in later life found themselves longing for the days of August 1914

​@@Person0fColorout of all the language's in the world you chose to speak out of your arse. The person who wrote the book was german and there is nothing you can argue against it without looking like a bafoon. Ever wondered why there was a socialist revolution in the 1920's? Its because the german people were sick of the war and were suffering from it. The German army weren't cartoon villian's who were pure evil war mongering demon's, they were people,and nothing less. By the time it was 1918 the German Empire was onthe verge of collapse both economically, and internally due to increasingly radical parties that actually tried to overthrow the new weimar republic due to the mass starvation and death that was occuring because of the british blockade of merchant shipping to the German Empire, and the overall hatred for the Kaiser and the new Weimar Republic.

I disagree with pedophiles, I very much disagree with the things they want to look at online. Should we just let them get on with it because “censorship evil”?

@@CharlieNoodles Never go full retard bro.

​@@CharlieNoodlesthat's just a little bit different, both legally and morally.

​@@CharlieNoodlespedophilic content is immoral because it victimizes (real) children. Who is the victim when you mention the word Nazi?

My point, is that absolute statements like that are foolish. Yes it’s frustrating when a legitimate historian has to modify his words because the algorithms that enforce censorship are heavy handed. Guess what? That’s KZfaq. A private company that has the right to moderate its platform as it sees fit. You know who else is on this platform? Literal Nazis. And if either of you three have a better idea of how to stop hate speech propagating on this website I’m sure KZfaq would love to hear from you.

They won't, for the same reason they won't fix contentID and copyright strikes: Dealing with the consequences of a bad system is cheaper than fixing the system.

They honestly won't. It's too "expensive" to have the company hand more than 10 real people. The company would rather have AI do it. I'm serious, and not being pithy or a technophobe. It's also somehow you can still have porn on here. Just found out about a guy who has TWO videos of him showing how to shave your back end hole area. But historians can't be candid about the subject matter of it's about war, and N4Z1s especially.

@@dragonsword7370 Yep. Anything that is considered "educational" can get around the rules, that's how the asshole shaving vids are up. There are also yoga vids where the entire vid is a woman bending over with her ass to the camera and is trying her darndest to show ass and pussy through her yoga pants. Clearly a thinly veiled softcore vid, not teaching yoga, but even when REPORTED they approve it.

A quote I saw on the tank museum in Germany - "If we want to live in peace, we need to talk about war"

@@LB-ou8wt reminds me of a quote, “if you want peace, prepare for war”.

Do you live in Germany?

​@@akumasstorytime3910Not to answer for the gentleman above, but I am from Germany and had the book as required reading in 8th grade as well.

@@akumasstorytime3910 Nope. Middle America.

@@machinegunyelly6944 yeah I am aswell that's why I asked. I remember a lot of books being mandatory so I thought it was a Germany thing.

I read it in high school in the US (California no less)

You must be from near me! I live a bit south of Red Arrow highway now, but I had to read Al Quiet in I think 9th grade when I grew up.

People: forget what they're capable of so they go with anything History: Hello, Bonjour, I'm here for you knee caps, again.

So where are you from? My grandfather was a Red Arrow in WWI

Indeed. I appreciate your efforts.

what makes this great? it had a clickbait thumbnail, a frankely bad explanation on nazi germany, not to mention him being a broken record "woe is me youtube wont like me see nazi" like how many times did he mention it when 1 would suffice?

Poetic justice

This story is easily disprovable. The film was an American production, in English, with global distribution. The idea of a "preserved uncut version" is cute but it's best to stick to reality

​​@@holly3934 unlikely =/= disproven.

@@MrJohansen No where did I say it was unlikely, that's because it's objectively false. It doesn't even take Google to find out, just knowing the basic details of the film + common sense would tell you this is a myth. If you did Google it you'll find 0 information showing that the film was recovered from Göbbles, rather you'll find plenty detailing screenings throughout the west all the way from its release until well after the war. Arguing that lack of evidence means it could be true is also incredibly foolish due to the overwhelming evidence suggesting it was never lost. Please, if you're going to be a history enthusiast I recommend practicing healthy scepticism for any grand claim, even more so when there's little support from cross referenced first hand sources

@@MrJohansen it factually didnt happen.

It's a good watch if you have the time, I would recommend you watch it at home at night for a better atmosphere.

Yeah, I watched the latest version and was pretty disappointed. The plot doesn't follow the book much. It does pull in a few of the big scenes but it changes both the plot of the book and the message of it. The book and previous movies, to me, had the message of this is war. War sucks. It's brutal and indifferent. The latest version seems to push the message that the Generals and the Politicians are doing everything they can to make the lives of the grunts as awful as they can while they themselves gorge on the finest luxuries of life and complain if their croissant is slightly too dry. And yes, the ending is just awful. It expects soldiers to make a full frontal assault across no man's land during the last 15 minutes before the ceasefire. There's a scene where a whistle blows and everyone engaged in hand to hand combat just puts down their weapons. The only upside I can say is that it does show the terror of combat.

@@jonathonrodriguezthomas6457 wh at I've heard about the movie I'D sum up as: "It's not 'Im Westen nichts neues'. It fails at being that. It is, however, a non-too-shabby story INSPIRED by the novel." if it wouldn't try to masquerade as All quiet on the Western Front, it'd be much more palatable.

@@undertakernumberone1 Yeah, exactly. It's a good film on its own merit but don't judge it as a book adaptation

@@morganmcallister2001 Glad it wasn't just me. I've not read the book or seen the other two versions. But I watched this one and I never engaged emotionally with it at all. It was very well made. I would like to have seen the bit with the tanks on the main screen. But there was nothing to the main character. Who spent it all reacting not acting. Which isn't how you write drama. Don't think the time jump helped either. It's a four star film for me, but it's not one I'll ever come back to.

Finally someone who actually read the damn book.

I was so disappointed when Himmelstoss wasn’t in the film. Plus, the name of the novel is taken from the ending of the novel where Paul dies on such an insignificant day which was super impactful. In the Netflix film, it ends with a huge battle scene. Definitely the worst of the three renditions if you are comparing it to the book. Not to mention how they also changed Kat’s entire character and death alongside the dynamic of the entire group. A huge part of the novel was the relationship of the characters and how quickly it just went away. Here, there are no characters to speak of. You’re right, it’s a generic war movie, not All Quiet on the Western Front.

@@chalkwizard1292orrection: It IS “All Quiet on the Western Front”, it’s not the best version. It still has the same message, delivered with similar bluntness and brutality. It’s just that the 1930 film did it better.

If you’re honest, the BEST adaptation is the 1930 film!

I read the book after watching the netflix thing, because I liked it so much, and now im so disappointed how they didnt even try to be faithful to the original story

Germany did nothing wrong.

@@finnberglander7816 i beg to differ. Killing off good portions of the population because of religion, sexual orientation, heritage, disability or just disagreement in an Industrial scale is clearly wrong. Back to topic: banning and burning books because they don't fit the own narrative is also clearly wrong.

​@@bengtkunze5569 Man...I remember when I believed all the things that government school taught me as well. The information is out there buddy, I hope you look into it further.

@@finnberglander7816 i don't know what school has to do with stories i was told by my grandparents, their siblings and friends, but you do you...

sausages.........not really! i truly wish we had techno+mdma. could of had a dance off instead.....

Use , Knobelbecher ' , the german slang for the boots.

Voting for a "warmonger" who is the war monger?

Having read that book, I see war as an activity nobody directly involved wants to be involved and anyone not involved directly hails it as patriotism or whatever the case is at the time.

@@at0mic282 war can be a drug for some

@@viveka2994exactly. The book and the movie cover up the fact that many Germans openly welcomed both world wars. All nations were enthusiastic but the Germans were a late developing country and really really wanted to fight for their country and Kaiser. Ernest Junger and Ernst Von Salomon were “old fighters” and influenced many Germans with their ideas. They loved war

saw this movie as a freshman in high school (mid 1970's). part of history class. maybe my teacher was your dad; more likely that a lot of teachers saw the educational value of this movie. as they say, war is hell.

Discord moment

Discord is ran by kneck beards who don't go outside and 4channers who spam the n word, that site is not worth chatting on beyond a personal server for you and your friends. I'm in a couple servers just to see the insane amount of delusion these people live in, at a certain point it goes from entertaining to just straight up worrying.

your own fault for using discord

@@organicleaf You mean it's his own fault for using electronic communication, right? I mean, it's totally the computer communication protocol's fault that some servers has absolutely upstuck mods..

@@johanmetreus1268 well no, its still his fault for even wanting to use public discord servers, like for real, who the fuck would want to waste his time on shit like that? Because if it were electronic communication, Shit like WhatsApp would ban those words too, but you can say everything you want there

The reason he became a moustache model was his big bushy Teutonic stache kept his gasmask from sealing properly and he got a dose. Ever since, he trimmed it up and ruined it for anyone else.

Yeah even though the Germans used gas on Concentration camp victims.

He was transporting letters and messages to the trenches. He didn't actually fight or anything.

No chemical weapons? How about Zyklon b?

@@latayantheazran Can you point to any battles in which german forces bombarded allied or soviet troops with zyklon b?

Talk about how bad the Nazis were? Banned! Take Nazi arguments and swap out political and/or ethnic groups to fit your own whack-ass views? Great content, good job! Very much a spirit of the law vs letter of the law thing.

Ask yourself why they don’t want you to listen to his speeches

Most Germans welcomed the war and were happy that it came and lots of Germans would later go on to be nostalgic for August 1914. Some people like war and are good at war , but we can’t let that truth be true all war is horrible and everyone in it has a terrible experience 😂 This is a childish view of war

​@Person0fColor do they still like war after seeing their friends get blown to pieces? Weird comment

​@@Astro2024yes? People aren't wholly rational, we like to glorify things

@@Person0fColor That was true for all nations involved, our current view of war devoid of romance and glory was formed from WW1.

Didn't it come out like last year?

That’s not true. In addition to being American and very much less likely to be part of WW1, most of the cast of the 1930 were too young with most being just 10 in 1918.

You‘d be surprised at the number of German immogrants who were also WW1 veterans were hired for the movie. They didn‘t use US veterans because it was a story from Germany about a bunch of PBI up to their necks in the shit, and an American veteran would not know acting according to the regulations of the German field manual from a piece of strudel.

I follow a podcast that refers to them as “Mid Century Germans” 😂😂 And to add to that last one “German gas company” can also work

@@sandalogaming6766link to podcast?

Should have been "9-9 Germans"

Sei froh das du Effi Briest nicht gelesen hast,.. das einzige Buch bei dem ich 4 mal auf den ersten 2 Seiten eingeschlafen bin...

Yes they still assign it

You could also watch the original 1930 movie. It makes some changes from the book that I think help make it a better antiwar story.

You can find All Quiet on The Western Front in some odd places. I found and bought a copy at a Dollar General being trampled on amongst all the crappy romance novels. I just needed a gallon of milk. I also found a copy starship troopers a few years later.

The worst part is, those terms are in and of themselves begrudging attempts to keep history alive despite corporate site censorship! It sucks how attempts to keep discussions alive still help whitewash them ;_;

its like newspeak