The BMW i4 RWD (eDrive 40) Is My Preference Over The M50! Here’s Why

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Жыл бұрын

We’ve spent quite a bit of time in the BMW i4 M50 AWD together but Kyle has never had the opportunity to try the eDrive 40 RWD, large battery trim… until now! If you don’t require AWD in your daily commute, this thing rocks and is priced well!
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@EVsteve80
@EVsteve80 Жыл бұрын
I have had the i4 eDrive 40 for about3 month and absolutely love it. Quiet, fun to drive, super quick and very comfortable ride. Drove all the competition, and made the best choice.
@cadriver2570
@cadriver2570 Жыл бұрын
Did you consider any of the more expensive EV sedans?
@EVsteve80
@EVsteve80 Жыл бұрын
@@cadriver2570 Yes, I test drove the Jaguar i Pace, the Audi e Tron, the Tesla models S, E and Y. Nothing compared to the i4!
@EVsteve80
@EVsteve80 Жыл бұрын
And the Mustang Mach E…
@cadriver2570
@cadriver2570 Жыл бұрын
@@EVsteve80 From that list I definitely agree. How about EQS? It’s twice the price, but the EQE is about $15k more. I didn’t quite love the ride of the EQS. Compared to their gas models it was a little lacking. Love the i4 in any event.
@EVsteve80
@EVsteve80 Жыл бұрын
@@cadriver2570 The EQS is perhaps too large and expensive for me. The EQE is actually perfect except I need a hatchback since my wife is in a wheelchair. The EQC I would probably buy if it was offered in the US. So I’m back to the just right i4.
@tmcquitty
@tmcquitty Жыл бұрын
I had a Model Y. It was totaled in a car accident. So, unfortunately, I was in the market for a new car. I decided to look around. I peeked into the Kia, VW ID.4, thought about buying another Model Y or even going M3P. I wanted to look into the i4. I stopped by the dealership and they had an eDrive40 with the M-pack on it. I took a standard eDrive40 for a test drive. Performance was on par with my MY. The hatchback is nice. I compare it to splitting the difference between the M3 and MY. I asked if the demo vehicle I drove was for sale. He said they would sell it. About 4K miles on it, decent option pack. I was expecting a much higher number. I paid 56K out the door. 12K less than the one I wanted, and even with the $7500 off, over 7K less than the Model Y (including taxes and fees). I decided right then and there to get it. Later that day, I drove off in my i4. First impressions, much more solid than my Tesla. Interior build quality is far better, I don’t have to worry so much about the paint, the interior is more conventional, the looks are great. Performance is more than I need for day-to-day driving. As I said, about the same as the Model Y. I love the split curved screen and the ability to put nav on the main cluster, the curved screen or the heads up display. And that heads up display is pretty nice, with multiple colors, good readability. Better than my wife’s HUD. For my wife, she prefers the i4 over the MY. I liked everything voice controlled, all digital display. I like that Tesla has few options (paint, interior, hitch, wheels and EAP/FSD) whereas the BMW is more traditional pay for a bunch of stuff model. Things that strike me, the Tesla is smoother for the auto-hold function. It’s easier to add new features to the Tesla, due to the infrastructure. I love the glass roof. But I hated the squeaks and rattles. The completely flat floor on the Tesla was a blessing and a curse. Good for legroom, but if something fell on the floor, it rolled around everywhere and could end up in the driver footwell area. The Tesla shows it’s a clean sheet design, new and innovative. Tesla FSD was finally becoming more valuable, but still not worth the 10K I paid for it, much less the current 15K. The i4 shows its lineage, with a transmission tunnel that does nothing. And no frunk. The i4 has a little more driving character and feedback. The i4 does come with 2 years of free Electrify America charging in 30 minute limits. The infrastructure isn’t nearly as well managed as the SuperChargers. I don’t regret my decision. I really enjoyed the MY, but I think the i4 is going to be a lot of fun.
@JustMe99999
@JustMe99999 Жыл бұрын
For the build quality alone, it's worth it. With Tesla, as good as they are, you're paying a premium for a car with sub-Kia build quality. Peeling paint on a $60k car? C'mon.
@sobc2737
@sobc2737 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed reading your review. I’m also going for the i4 instead of the Tesla.
@JustxLiving909
@JustxLiving909 11 ай бұрын
Just got my model 3 having buyers remorse love my car and the tech with updates but the styling on the i4 amazing with the new grill bmw has the best looking cars on the road and I’m not a bmw guy
@DougThompson
@DougThompson Жыл бұрын
I have the same spec except I don't have the aero wheels, I have the 18 inch wheels, and its AWESOME!! I'm getting 318 miles with a full 100% charge!!! Thanks, Kyle for the great review!!!
@scottwills4698
@scottwills4698 Жыл бұрын
My work colleague has this car, he gets 320 miles out of it at 70mph!!
@mh0Ang95
@mh0Ang95 Жыл бұрын
Yea a few other channels have also had real world range tests at 70-75 mph well over 300mi. Amazing!
@rival121
@rival121 9 ай бұрын
BMW clearly underrates this car’s range!
@MuhammadIsmail-ct3ep
@MuhammadIsmail-ct3ep Жыл бұрын
Hi Kyle, I have had this car since August and I absolutely love it. Will buy this over Tesla any day despite all the charging constraints. Range is fantastic and I have the maxed out trip. Will go for winter tires as it is RWD.
@fmartin59
@fmartin59 Жыл бұрын
You may not need winter tires cus global warming
@ladonnalewis4296
@ladonnalewis4296 Жыл бұрын
The hatchback makes a big difference for me over the Model 3 trunk. I like the I4!
@hardykornfeld1733
@hardykornfeld1733 Жыл бұрын
Our e40 replaced a Honda CR-V. Less cargo capacity, but enough for 99% of our missions and so much better to drive.
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray Жыл бұрын
Surprised it's as good as it sounds here, hatch a big deal but so is no fronk. Styling is excellent except for the front which is becoming less obnoxious over time, fake grills rub me wrong.
@gregkramer5588
@gregkramer5588 Жыл бұрын
@@Mrbfgray I think frunks go nearly unused. The only frunk that is really useful is the one on the Ford Lighting.
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray Жыл бұрын
@@gregkramer5588 Nonsense. Depends on the user but many find a sedan frunk to be highly useful. Certainly imagine I'd put groceries in a Tesla frunk rather than having to secure items in the back. Families want as much storage space as possible for a given footprint, significant front volume adds to that without having all items buried in the back.
@gregkramer5588
@gregkramer5588 Жыл бұрын
@@Mrbfgray Sure some like just that the survey i heard about it was only about 1/3,
@theredmonkey
@theredmonkey Жыл бұрын
Love that hatch, wish the Model 3 was like that.
@kevinn1158
@kevinn1158 Жыл бұрын
I drove this finally. It's light years more refined than the Model 3.
@danscar5277
@danscar5277 Жыл бұрын
I borrowed a i4 e40 from the dealership, drove it for about 3 hours, did some errands and now I am getting ready to place an order. I currently drive a 2014 i3 since new, and it’s a great city car. The i4 e40 is a refined i3. Thanks for your videos and reviews. I always look forward to them.
@kiwi335d
@kiwi335d Жыл бұрын
Great review Kyle. If Elon opens up the Tesla Supercharger Network to all brands of electric cars, would you still pick a Tesla model 3 over this BMW at this price point?
@hardykornfeld1733
@hardykornfeld1733 Жыл бұрын
We got our e40 msport 3 weeks ago and have averaged 4.0 mi/kWh for the first 1,000 miles. That’s roughly 70/30 highway/local in 50-70 degree mostly fair weather, driving in Eco Pro mode usually 5-10 over the posted limit. So far, we love the car. We tested ID.4, Mache-E, Tesla 3 & Y, Ioniq 5, BMW iX, and EV6 before settling on the i4. Decision based primarily on driving dynamics, build quality, and expected range. We live in MA, so my concession to winter was getting the P-Zero no-season tires instead of performance tires, which seemed unsuited to the pace we drive this car. For bad snow days, we have an Audi B9 S4 fitted with 18” winter tires. The Audi on summer PS4S tires fills the need to drive quickly, and we have a BMW R1250RS if we want to go even quicker. The instantaneous acceleration of the i4 is significantly more than enough to get around bicycles, etc., on narrow lanes, but the car excels in wafting us around in a serene cabin with a very good sound system and wireless Android Auto. Our solar panels at home make more than enough kWh to run the house and charge the car, so the underdeveloped public charging infrastructure is not a concern. Most of our daily excursions are well within the 80% to 20% battery SOC range.
@WayneMorrison1069
@WayneMorrison1069 Жыл бұрын
Aside form the introspective car review (thanks by the way), the phone visuals and colors were sharp and vibrant. Love the channel.
@pez300
@pez300 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a range test for the i4 eDrive40 - definitely considering this as my next care after my current lease is up.
@liridongjokaj9861
@liridongjokaj9861 Жыл бұрын
A reviewer from norway (bjorn) tested it and i think it went 640km or 620km or something like that. Close to 400 miles
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 Жыл бұрын
@@liridongjokaj9861 i4 40 was 671 km, the Tesla 3 LR was 640 km driving country roads into the montains and back.
@liridongjokaj9861
@liridongjokaj9861 Жыл бұрын
@@abraxastulammo9940 Plenty of range for both ✌️
@tesla-spectre
@tesla-spectre Жыл бұрын
I also think the i4 edrive40 is the best option. Great car Nyland did the standard 1000km challenge and range tests and it performed excellently.
@philsoc8286
@philsoc8286 2 ай бұрын
Just wanted to pop in to the comments on this year-old video to say that I recently swapped out my Tesla Model 3 for a BMW i4 edrive40 and I couldn't be happier. Wasn't initally crazy with the M50 I'd test driven but then I saw this review and gave the edrive40 a try. Magnificent vehicle; couldn't be happier. Thanks Kyle!!
@verynick
@verynick Ай бұрын
What made you switch? Supercharger?
@philsoc8286
@philsoc8286 Ай бұрын
@@verynick Could care less about super-charging. Have level two charger installed at home and rarely do long trips. Ironically, however, the i4 turns out to have far better practical range than my Tesla ever did.
@StarryTemplar
@StarryTemplar Жыл бұрын
Nice video as always, what if you put 18 inch wheel on i4 M50? Will it make same mileage? I know weight reduce mileage but isn't 2 electric motor will regen more energy if slow down before turning
@dennisbird5901
@dennisbird5901 Жыл бұрын
I drive a i3 with winter tires in MN and I have no issues. I'd go with the i4 Edrive 40 over a Model 3. The hatchback, plus the refinement of the build is more appealing to me. Thanks for the review. Looking forward to a i4 Edrive 40 70mph range test.
@malcolmjones893
@malcolmjones893 Жыл бұрын
Your smile at the end says it all! Thanks for the review!
@markuserbeldinger9674
@markuserbeldinger9674 Жыл бұрын
I have the M50 since August and love it. However I needed AWD and totally agree with your assessment that most people would prefer something like an i4 xdrive 40 over the M50. I do have the 19“ tires and get an EPA rating of 272miles similar to the car you drove. Like you explained in your excellent i7 review in most driving conditions the M50 is rear wheel drive only.
@mh0Ang95
@mh0Ang95 Жыл бұрын
Yea this BMW ev gets better range than it’s EPA which is great cuz most others get less
@rottwylor
@rottwylor Жыл бұрын
Not sure I agree with the charging infrastructure comment as a reason to choose a Tesla over this. I come across far more lvl 3 charging locations than I do supercharger.
@zeedustrakok
@zeedustrakok Жыл бұрын
I was looking towards an i4 40e, but based on what they did with the price this year I am starting to look towards a Polestar 3. It is not that much more expensive, you get a lot more car and equipment and you don’t need a certain spec to make the nose less ugly. Besides that my latest BMW dealer experience was terrible. I am in the camp of : never a Tesla.
@tobias_dahlberg
@tobias_dahlberg Жыл бұрын
Dude we have been getting by with RWD and FWD in Northern Sweden in the Arctic Circle for centuries, just get good winter tyres. They make more for the driveability than AWD does. A FWD Volvo V70 with studded winter tyres will fair way better in the snow and on ice than an AWD Volvo V70 with shitty all-season tyres.
@soldierssoldier.1503
@soldierssoldier.1503 9 ай бұрын
Entry level in the UK is the i4 35 and is available now, I test drove one last week and placed my order straight away, the only problem is the waiting time is up to a year, much too long, hopefully it will be worth the wait 😀
@cadriver2570
@cadriver2570 Жыл бұрын
How does this compare to the EQE? Is the price premium worth it for a cruiser?
@grey8ghost1
@grey8ghost1 Жыл бұрын
While some will say this statement is wrong but speed isn’t everything when the trade off is significantly reduced range. If you want absolute speed get a hellcat or the Model S Plaid or something similar. I suspect that many potential buyers of an electric autos seek a reasonable balance of speed vs. range.
@nicka2256
@nicka2256 Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t wait to locate one of these BMW i40. Went with the Tesla 3 ordered earlier this year but this looks great.
@sefrasus7360
@sefrasus7360 11 ай бұрын
Is this silver paint a custom color? Cannot find silver in the configuration tool..
@SuperHumhum
@SuperHumhum Жыл бұрын
I was in the market for the i4, Model 3 and Polestar. And let me tell you that a Tesla HAS to be a lot cheaper because it's a toy car. Plastic seats, missing important features the overall feel is just sad. I felt like a goldfish in a gold fish glass because of the extremly low dashboard. The missing features like ventilated seats, a stable good working autopilot, Android Auto, flexible adjustable speed limit and HUD hurt. Why can't a Model 3 have them? It's like they're stuck in 2005. And I was shocked of how extremly loud the road noise was. But I'm coming from an Audi and had some expectations. The Model 3 should never ever be called a luxury car. It's a budget car with a budget feel. For that, the price is ok, hence, it's ok that the i4 costs a lot more.
@bhbae1
@bhbae1 Жыл бұрын
Model 3 is easily miles ahead of other EV including BMW i4. Just a single point of view -autopliot - none of cars can do the same way as Tesla does. Period.
@SuperHumhum
@SuperHumhum Жыл бұрын
@@bhbae1 Oh you sweet innocent child. How is the Tesla AP miles ahead? In the BMW, I can set an adaptive automatic speed like: actual speed limit +/- up to 15. So for example. Speed limits is 60km/h the car drives 60 (as the setting is up to 60 +/- 0).Speed limit is 70 (the setting is: from 60 above + 9km/h), the car sets the speed automatically to 79. Can a Tesla do this? No it can't. Can I make a lane change without the need to engage the AP again? No, a Tesla can't, a BMW can. And that are only two examples. Teslas AP is not that good. Look at all the comparison tests. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bbNdfZZ73srUgHU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pNmSZbtzpq-7qXU.html Now tell me. How is Tesla any good in automated driving?
@bhbae1
@bhbae1 Жыл бұрын
@@SuperHumhum Well I am old. Be prepared to be treated in the same way as you did.You are like what a frog in a well. That what it knows is everything in the world. You never drove or owned a Tesla. Of course Tesla can! It can also change lane. It can exit outside highway to a ramp. It can accelerate into highway. Can a BMW do that? Can it do self driving in city traffic? Can it do auto steer from approaching cars to avoid collision? Can it stop and go at the stop sign or traffic signal? I only made an example of the autopilot, but there are more. Another easy example is charging infrastructure. Does any EV have superchargers as much as Teslas have? Basically your EV cannot drive long journey as it lacks charging infrastructure. Well you may be okay in the future as Tesla announced to open Tesla superchargers to other EVs. So be thankful.
@bhbae1
@bhbae1 Жыл бұрын
More detail on changing lane - a Tesla can change lane by itself (without drivers intervening) or change lane by turning signal. Speed setup is also flexible with +/- delta. Depending on the set speed and driving mode, a Tesla automates the lane change. It notifies the driver at the scene so the driver can always intervene.
@SuperHumhum
@SuperHumhum Жыл бұрын
@@bhbae1 Yes, Tesla can change the lane automatically, but after that you have to engage the AP again. Manually. It doesn't do it automatically. I drove a Tesla for a longer time. I can't engage automatically after a lane change. The flexible delta is not possible as well. You can set a delta when to be warned, but it won't set it automatically.
@skayofox
@skayofox Жыл бұрын
This car sold me on the first drive like the Tesla Model 3 did. So there I was with three options: Tesla Model 3, BMW i4 eDrive 40 and waiting for the NIO ET5. So in Germany, the price difference between the Model 3 LR and the i4 eDrive40 is not that extreme. The i4 is just about 3k more in my configuration. Yes, the Model 3 LR has more power and faster acceleration, but has no HUD, no 360 Camera, no real Blind Spot monitoring, no hatchback trunk, no traffic sign recognition and so on. So they are very compareable in price. The NIO ET5 will may be a very good car, but with everything currently going on in global politics and China in particular, I'm a little bit sceptical about whats to come on that front. Also, NIO wasn't able to release a price for the ET5 in time until I had to order the i4, if I wanted one.
@kobbetop
@kobbetop Жыл бұрын
I tested it the other day and it was just like driving the g20 but faster and more silent. Hate to say but there’s not much reasons to buy ice cars anymore. Waiting time is about a year if you spec one yourself.
@MYJ61
@MYJ61 Жыл бұрын
What did the ram in the background think?
@SNYDERAUCTIONS
@SNYDERAUCTIONS Жыл бұрын
Love your channel. I have a 2023 I4 35 and absolutely love it but buyer beware the range is rarely over 200 miles which is disappointing. I turned in a 550I and while I miss a little more room I absolutely l love the way this car drives and of course the regular bmw dials and buttons and impressive screen. The 19 inch wheels certainly dont help range.
@t1328
@t1328 9 ай бұрын
Probably time to update this video. The charging infrastructure for non-Tesla vehicles has improved significantly. Comparing this to a Model 3 (which these days is admittedly a lot cheaper), is really not a legitimate comparison. The interior quality of this is leagues ahead of a Model 3. It has a heads up display option, and an actual speedometer etc in front of you with real buttons, stalks, etc, and it’s so much more solid than the pre-Hyland Model 3. If I was cross shopping these and could afford this, it would e a complete no-brainer in favor of this.
@ChadStJohn
@ChadStJohn Ай бұрын
The i4 can access the super charging network now? With a bridge accessory?
@SuperDryDiver
@SuperDryDiver 9 ай бұрын
The hatchback on this car makes it instantly superior to the Model 3.
@mrmr1734
@mrmr1734 Жыл бұрын
Very fair comparison. This is practical intel.
@robertjeths6924
@robertjeths6924 11 ай бұрын
What color spec is this ?
@brndnblck
@brndnblck Жыл бұрын
AWD is table stakes for me. I won't buy a vehicle that's 2WD anymore. I ended up getting the M50 as a result.
@marc-xn8tu
@marc-xn8tu Жыл бұрын
The i4 edrive35 is indeed available in the USA and has already been released
@gregnorton3718
@gregnorton3718 7 ай бұрын
The 35 is available. I saw one at the local BMW dealer in Salem OR today.
@Vizion-jp8zj
@Vizion-jp8zj 10 ай бұрын
Did not know this was a rear wheel. Wow. I think I might test drive this. Thanks! Still do not like the grille though.
@devinesoul7777
@devinesoul7777 Жыл бұрын
what color is this car?
@bobmemer9062
@bobmemer9062 Жыл бұрын
trying to decided between tesla model y performance or BMW i4 drive 40
@StreakSetter
@StreakSetter Жыл бұрын
You get two years free charging w electrify America and if you live In cali you can opt for a car pool sticker. I prefer the styling and looks of the I4 compared to the model 3 and inside is way nicer.
@shingnosis
@shingnosis 11 ай бұрын
This is the one to have imho, nice spec on this one too.
@rival121
@rival121 8 ай бұрын
You ask and you shall receive. X-Drive 40i is available
@jimc5696
@jimc5696 Жыл бұрын
With the "New Klass" 3 series EV coming soon... not sure I want to spend my $$ on a EV swapped ICE platform when a purpose built EV platform is coming soon. Thoughts?
@vominator
@vominator Жыл бұрын
as of april 2023 i4-35s are on the lot in silicon valley
@naiart82
@naiart82 9 ай бұрын
I love the idea of a pure RWD EV. And I live in Canada! Is stability/traction control easily defeatable?
@fredcanavan3864
@fredcanavan3864 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jross3r
@jross3r Жыл бұрын
Please do a range test in the 18" wheel i4 edrive40.
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 Жыл бұрын
Those aero wheels got one of the best results, though.
@gafcarden
@gafcarden 11 ай бұрын
Great car, jut a shame the i4 derive 40 M Sport doesn’t include the Harman K hifi, you have to by the tech pack, unlike the iX where is its included in the equivalent spec.
@TheEmrickman
@TheEmrickman Жыл бұрын
Having a real hard time deciding between this and a loaded 300e.
@turtron
@turtron Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for M50 allocation for a while but I'm still wavering due to reviews like this. Catch is that I will definitely be driving in snow... In and around Fort Collins and up to Colorado ski areas. Haven't seen definitive info on how RWD electric vehicles perform. Everyone knows that ICE RWD is dicey but with the weight evenly destributed, how do RWD EVs do in snow?
@edgy21
@edgy21 Жыл бұрын
RWD EVs will do so well in snow because it is the weight of the battery pack that is evenly distributed that ensures the car hugs the ground. See ID3 (RWD) vs Kona (FWD) video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iJ54i6l9lrPTYp8.html With winter tires, it will get better.
@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418
@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 Жыл бұрын
Like any rear wheel drive car it'll be total rubbish unless you put winter tyres on it then it'll be completely fine. Michelin make an all season tyre that has very good dry performance and good snow performance so 🤷 there's that too.
@Johnsmith-do2js
@Johnsmith-do2js Жыл бұрын
When will you review the Cadillac lyriq
@fireboarder112
@fireboarder112 2 ай бұрын
Price difference to the M50 is only 3600€ in Germany, if you put the same options inside. The difference between 40 and 50 looks much bigger because the 50 has a lot more options.
@the2siblings12
@the2siblings12 Жыл бұрын
I have i4 e drive 40 RWD and Tesla model 3 AWD but to be honest, i will take BMW any day over my Tesla. BMW does feel like driving a traditional car which is fully electric but Tesla is more into class of EV driving.
@kevinn1158
@kevinn1158 Жыл бұрын
The e35 is coming to Canada. It's on their website. Not sure about the US.
@steelehere1
@steelehere1 Жыл бұрын
It'll be available in the US as well. The i5 is next on their release list.
@kevinn1158
@kevinn1158 Жыл бұрын
@@steelehere1 I’d rather see the iX1 come to North America.
@adamf.8564
@adamf.8564 Жыл бұрын
M50 is hands down better than the Tesla! The overall built quality and tech and appearance is just awesome!!
@craig8638
@craig8638 6 ай бұрын
I love the hatchback.
@rkgsd
@rkgsd Жыл бұрын
What's the range with optional 18" wheels?
@babyganga8786
@babyganga8786 Жыл бұрын
Suppose to be 300 miles
@steelehere1
@steelehere1 Жыл бұрын
I'm getting 320-340 miles on mine (18" wheels). Very commons to average over 4.0 kw/m (eDrive 40 has 81.5 usuable kw battery power) if you use eco mode and surprisingly drive on the freeway a lot.
@NedNew
@NedNew Жыл бұрын
It make strong happy moment for me.
@michaelc2254
@michaelc2254 Жыл бұрын
Build quality plus not wanting to support Elon (who, imho, has gotten way too big for his britches) puts me in the BMW camp. I have an i4 M50 on order.
@rosmarin2438
@rosmarin2438 Жыл бұрын
Cry more
@kcd2120
@kcd2120 Жыл бұрын
Slapping a licence plate on the front will definitely tone that grill down for those who don’t particularly like the look.
@joeb4294
@joeb4294 Жыл бұрын
I think that a license plate hanging off of the giant the grill looks way worse. The best way to diminish the grill is to spec it in black exterior with full shadowline trim.
@crazygambler920
@crazygambler920 Жыл бұрын
I’m trading in my model y for the 50. I can’t wait….
@evflyguy
@evflyguy Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Polestar 2, Kyle.
@malee006
@malee006 11 ай бұрын
I disagree with you Kyle, this car is way better than model 3. The only missing is self-driving and charging (which is improving). And bmw has the tax credit and a dealer gave me $7k discount so I think it's a steal in comparison to Tesla.
@MdRDan
@MdRDan 5 ай бұрын
Wish they’d build an i4 2-door! All I want is a RWD/AWD 2-door EV with over 200 miles range. Mini SE unfortunately is only FWD and around 100 miles of range.
@wenbo9543
@wenbo9543 Жыл бұрын
Dude you look like Jobs from certain angles
@bshah4831
@bshah4831 Жыл бұрын
Probably better with the M Sport suspension.
@joeb4294
@joeb4294 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree that BMW should offer an xDrive40.
@mickeymichaels1298
@mickeymichaels1298 Ай бұрын
They now have an i4 X40 with just under 400 hp and AWD.
@ericschmidt1987
@ericschmidt1987 Жыл бұрын
The curved display is extra?
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear Жыл бұрын
The display is standard. Don't know why he mentioned that alongside the wireless charger (which ain't).
@lh2338
@lh2338 Жыл бұрын
BMW superior build quality is worth the extra $10k.
@kirkfavre3017
@kirkfavre3017 Жыл бұрын
It’s nice toooo
@kromeassassin
@kromeassassin Жыл бұрын
Wish BMW made this an AWD model instead of forcing you to get the M50, which is tremendously fun but at the cost of range.
@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418
@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 Жыл бұрын
But then it would just be an M50 with the same range issues and torque steer and poor handling.
@kromeassassin
@kromeassassin Жыл бұрын
@@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 They could trade off performance for range in an AWD model. It wouldn’t be an M50, it would be an exDrive40 AWD with solid range. The current 40 model doesn’t suffer from the torque related shortcomings of the M50.
@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418
@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 Жыл бұрын
@@kromeassassin think about what you're saying. An electric AWD is two motors driving front and back axles. That's where the torque steering issues with the m50 come from. The E40 is RWD only and a single motor. Destroying the e40s handling and weight distribution just to make a less powerful m50 would be an odd choice. Just fit the tyres appropriate for the conditions. EG winters for snow/ice instead of driving everywhere on summer tyres. AWD on summer tyres will still be rubbish.
@Astronomine
@Astronomine Жыл бұрын
blinker fluid is the most expensive option again? 🤪
@davesax11
@davesax11 Жыл бұрын
Nah, if you live in areas with mountain roads, frequent rain or snow, AWD is the way to go. Note: eDrive with Xdrive AWD is one motor, not 2. Re M50 power abruptness: a slightly softer spring in the gas pedal or longer travel design for the power would remedy that. Ditto for the automated driving - build in some slightly slower initiation to smooth the response. Rides much better than the Teslas.
@DeepBlueWaves
@DeepBlueWaves Жыл бұрын
Tires def get fizzier in turns on the M50 version
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear Жыл бұрын
If (and only if) you have no intention to be a maniac with your BMW i4 on a regular basis, the E40 is the better choice than the M50. The front motor of the M50 isn't on all the time-- the M50 will cruise on the rear motor in order to conserve range and only engage the front wheels if the situation demands it (inclement weather or maniac time). Which means, for long range cruising the front motor is dead weight.
@godofdun
@godofdun Жыл бұрын
"It still has 10, 000 worth of options" 🤣
@joshuapolite3054
@joshuapolite3054 Жыл бұрын
ive had a Model S and 3...and i think im done. Time for something new. I will come back when they get better build quality.
@verynick
@verynick 2 ай бұрын
Have you gotten BMW instead?
@mspeed2441
@mspeed2441 Жыл бұрын
Kyle, great summary. Just for a minute remember that you're not selling Teslas, because there are critical things you always leave out with Teslas, and specifically the Model 3 in comparison to the i4. First, I'm not an unqualified commentator. I have four friends with various Teslas, and I've spent countless hours in each, especially driving 4.5 hours to SLC to get service (not the normal 2.5 hours due to charging charging charging. FYI, you can't drive 93mph with mountain passes in any EV without killing your range. 1) Lack of Dealerships: I don't don't anyone who would drive 1.5 or like us 4.5 hours to get service at their nearest car dealership Tesla store, especially given the initial Tesla build quality with things like water in the lights and cracked sunroofs. I'm sure the quality will go up eventually. But the Model 3 has had six model years to fix it. Quality aside, you're lucky that you only live 1/2 a charge way from Denver. 2) Price: From what I can configure, if you spec your i4 40 like the Model 3 (plastic, no heads up, etc.), the pricing is: $60, 085 vs $55,490. However, that doesn't include full auto pilot, which then makes the price $64,490. However, it's doubtful that until the lawsuits are over, from this point on Full Autopilot probably won't get engaged. That said, you CAN option the i4 to $67,000. But that includes things you'll never get on a Tesla like actual leather, heads-up, Laser headlights, a decent stereo, wireless charging, hot spot, ventilated seats, Apple Car Play, Alexa, etc. 3) BIG point: the Model 3 does not qualify for the $7500 tax credit, so I get sick of Tesla acting like it's a discount. They even show the price with the tax credit. IT's a tax credit. Not a discount. 4) Charging: The Tesla charging network is awesome, but expensive. Our last grueling trip to SLC from Idaho Falls for one of our many Tesla warranty claims or services cost over $23 each way in supercharging fees. Tesla has had a huge head start in developing its charging network. They had no other options if they wanted to sell their cars. The others will catch up and surpass very soon, as there will be tons of new EVs coming. Then the silver lining will be that there will probably be charging price competition amongst the players. I even read that Elon has intelligently decided to sell harnesses for non-Teslas to charge at superchargers--at least in Europe at first. It's worth noting that Idaho Falls only has one supercharger. One. The nearest next is an hour away. Not cool. That means you have to spend $2000 to install the Tesla charger at home, and it is not very fast. $2000 more??? Please correct me if I've gotten anything wrong. Otherwise a great review. Thanks Kyle.
@Iceeeen
@Iceeeen Жыл бұрын
The tesla charging network now seam to be down to just a NA thing. At least where I live they are by far the most expensive DC network, but even so that's not a selling point anymore since it now is open to anyone.
@mspeed2441
@mspeed2441 Жыл бұрын
@@Iceeeen Excellent point.
@nickthedane1
@nickthedane1 Жыл бұрын
Is this car as low as a model 3 tesla
@groov101
@groov101 Жыл бұрын
I have i40 eDrive40 w/ Msport package and 19” wheels. U wanna test is for a week or so. I would need an EV in kind
@garyclark6747
@garyclark6747 Жыл бұрын
Hardly the cheap seats but thanks for reviewing the entry level i4 BIG GRILL BEV #bgb
@VickiStokes
@VickiStokes Жыл бұрын
or they rarely need to super charge.
@tswrench
@tswrench Жыл бұрын
When you say, "Let's jump in and go for a ride" at 3:04 in the vid, and then don't actually go for a ride until 10:23 in the video, my interest wanes. I hope this helps.
@chrsil
@chrsil Жыл бұрын
i4 by far better. The build quality is another level. tesla model 3 too common now. Not attractive. Will be ordering an i4.
@stangmatt66
@stangmatt66 Жыл бұрын
The shame is you can’t get any ADAS features on the eDrive40 right now. Have to move up to the M50. Kyle’s manufacturer-provided eDrive40 may have ADAS, but you can’t spec it that way right now.
@dhollenbach
@dhollenbach Жыл бұрын
Just configured one online and it gave me the option for driving assistant professional. But I tried this a week ago and it wasn’t Available
@subbiahpalani
@subbiahpalani Жыл бұрын
Driver assistance for e40 on i4 isn’t available in market to buy for 2023 model year, why is BMW showcasing a spec to media which customers can’t buy?
@seandoyle9192
@seandoyle9192 Жыл бұрын
Say that again, the i4 doesnt have the newer driver assistance?
@KDR816
@KDR816 Жыл бұрын
It is available already. It wasn't yes (German configurator). Check yours, maybe too
@DougThompson
@DougThompson Жыл бұрын
For the 2023 model, driver assistance (DAPP) is back after a short period of it not being available due to the chip shortage. It is now back for the 2023 model.
@anandnarayan150
@anandnarayan150 Жыл бұрын
@@DougThompson I still dont see it in the options for the eDrive40
@jazminethomas3619
@jazminethomas3619 Жыл бұрын
@@anandnarayan150 In the United States, the driver assistance is bundled / including in the M sport package.
@awmustang
@awmustang Жыл бұрын
7:10 For 2024 they have done just what you asked. xDrive40 is now an option.
@TheBowerbird
@TheBowerbird Жыл бұрын
I hate the piped in sounds so very much in these. I drove an i4 M50 over the weekend and the sound was the worst part.
@ulyden1947
@ulyden1947 Жыл бұрын
The sound can be turned off
@Veyronp87
@Veyronp87 Жыл бұрын
in regards to the price difference over a Tesla - BMW is a step above Tesla. just a reality, have to pay for the badge not to mention the higher quality as discussed.
@verynick
@verynick 2 ай бұрын
One word: Sportback
@falklumo
@falklumo 2 ай бұрын
The middle ground e40 AWD is in the 2025 lineup though ...
@cadriver2570
@cadriver2570 Жыл бұрын
BMW makes better EVs than VAG. More complete, more cohesive, more reliable.
@wetzel82
@wetzel82 Жыл бұрын
I really like this car. and let me preface this by saying I’m fully aware of why someone would want a 60k rwd bmw i4 (which is basically like you said a live able spec and it’s options you “need”) over a model 3 performance even. Bmw has much better build quality, way better customer service and loyalty to customers as well as interior quality and status. However, For the same price the model 3 performance does 3.1 where the bmw is still competing performance wise with the rwd lfp model 3 in the 5 second range. I’ve driven the lfp rwd model 3 and the performance and imo the rwd is plenty fast therefore the rwd I4 would be as well but now the I4 is in that price range where I’d rather stick with tesla quality and get the best performance for the money with my EV. And the M50 is much more expensive than a Model 3 performance, especially with the liveable safety features and options like heated seats. However, I’d get an IX before a Model Y tbh. I’ve seen one on the road so far here in socal and wow is it smaller on the road than pictures make it look 😂. But wow did it look good 😅
@slicksalmon6948
@slicksalmon6948 2 ай бұрын
I found the car small with a cabin that's too snug. The sunroof really cuts into your illusion of space. My lingering impression is that I felt cramped. In addition, the eDrive35 seems to be the model they're pushing, not the 40. Neither get the EV tax credit.
@DemonBrandon
@DemonBrandon Ай бұрын
If you lease, Bmw will give you a $7500 lease credit.
@slicksalmon6948
@slicksalmon6948 Ай бұрын
@@DemonBrandon true, but I don’t lease.
@verynick
@verynick Ай бұрын
@@DemonBrandonif you push a little bit more, $10k off the price is possible. Just ask me lol
@lplt
@lplt Жыл бұрын
they increased the price by 10k in canada 3 months after launch, not a god value anymore here
@PhilT993
@PhilT993 Жыл бұрын
The Tesla Model 3 RWD base is $15,000 CDN more than it is in the US, in US Dollars. The Model 3 performance is $21,000 CDN more than it is in the US, in USD. That is the due solely to the exchange rate on the Dollar. Interesting also that in Canada the eDrive 40 is roughly the same price as the TM3RWD and the i4M50 is about the same price range as the TM3 Performance.
@tmcquitty
@tmcquitty Жыл бұрын
Tesla raised prices, too. When I bought my MY, I think I paid 55K. The same car is now 69K. Same features, minimal changes. Even with the 7500 off (short term discount), it was still 6K over what I spent on the last one.
@achaz_
@achaz_ Жыл бұрын
The exact care you got there is 87'000€ in France...
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