Victorian women just used padding to create the ilusion of a small waist. They had things to do, they coud'nt just tight lace their corsets 🤦‍♂️.

Ikr everytime I see a Barbie doll (usually not Barbie herself) having actual realistic proportions I’m like wow her waist is not small when it’s an actual proportion 😂 that’s so bad.

**barbie doll with a corset**- may I introduce myself?

@@jrseahorse5886 ikr! I had a doll.. She isn't "thin" her arms has muscles and her waist is so perfect!

Winx: allow us to introduce ourselves

Or being pregnant. Good gods, EVERYTHING shifts when the baby gets big!

Corsets are WAY more comfortable though and they actually supported you (I have a large bust so corsets are way better for me, idk which is better for a smaller bust)

Thank you! I was wondering when someone would tell people this!

And, to fit with the sillouhette of the dress was achieved by making skirts bigger, or padding by the hips to make the waist look smaller.

Lol I'm wearing a corset right now!

Yeah but anyone who tight laces their corset is an idiot and that’s their fault for buying a small corset.

@MariaDreamed 这很酷 :3 they should know when to stop. Their body would start hurting or give some kind of emotion. Plus, the indents on the liver looked kind of fake. They were pushed in so much. So yeah it is their fault for lacing it too tightly. Their body gives them a signal, yet they deny It.

@@_alex3985 back then I don’t think they had the option to get ones that fit their body type because it was a time period where women had to fit this ideal person ,and if they didn’t fit it naturally they would force it therefore leading to issues with organs. Not to mention the corsets made in this day and age are made with safe materials that don’t cause pain because it’s the corset that has to fit the woman, not the woman to fit the corset like back then.

@@_alex3985 even now we still obsess over how we look in dangerous ways such as tanning beds and surgery such as BBL which can be dangerous as the fat which is moved has a risk of entering our arteries therefore making some people to die at the end of the surgery. Yes we know it’s stupid but Back then it was either fit that category or be an outcast. Not to mention they didn’t have the information we do today and to them having corsets made out of whalebone and steel was perfectly normal

@@neon_pixell2079 it was still their choice to fit in or be a so called ‘outcast’

Wearing the wrong size and made it tight is dangerous Corsets aren't that bad

@@mintiistrqwberri5483 yes yust if it is too smal

Yes, the corset itself isn't deadly, it's how small or tight you decide to make it, tight lacing is completely different from corseting honestly

@@karmakaughtthekat plus if the corset was "breaked in" / "seasoned" properly. It matters exactly that it fits just right. :)

Guys have corsets?

a lot of make up products and even skin care products are dangerous too, perfume also. there are many things we don't know and don't care to know even.

I never use those. I have been insulted and bullied for being pale/light-skinned, but I'm proud of it (not in a racist way - other people's skin colour doesn't matter). "Tan as much as you want, just leave me", I said.

Kayla Tolliver do people still do that? It’s illegal here in Australia! Although I’ve heard plenty of people have ones at home still ( illegally) I’ve no idea why people would intentionally do that knowing what we know!! Like anything I guess smoking etc..

Atriya Koller 2nd that ALL skin colour is beautiful and I love my pale skin now too! Thanks to twilight I just tell myself I must be a vampire 🧛‍♀️ lol 😂

@@Mro183 haha, I had that time too after Twilight, and in fact when I go to the beach I joke that people could get blind because of my legs - they are legit white and reflective 😂 Also, to your answer to the original comment: I live in Russia and in most of our country it's super fashionable and you get looked down on if you don't tan (I don't even sunbathe on the beach, it's too boring). And these rooms with tanning beds are still in most beauty salons, although, thankfully, they aren't as heavily advertised as 10 years ago.

And he was shirtless in front of those two women,who I think are both pretty as hell. I'da been mortified! Then "GASP" SHE TOUCHED HIS NAKED PERSON!!!!!!

I was trying to figure out if they were actually drawing on a real person, how it looked like the marker was pressing on real skin I couldn’t tell because that would be wierd I would think just draw on a mannequin but I guess it’s also easier to clean that way

Yup

Sasha Rohr yes

This was just an odd choice 😂I was like, why is he here??

Hi are you army saw you pic of jimin i think

@@ohhitsoral3444 No I'm not. I can't handle ARMY's :,)

Thats okay anyways hi😊

@@ohhitsoral3444 Yeah. Hi :D

Exactly, it makes sense that people who have only heard about corsets through pop culture (where they are grossly misrepresented ) might think they were oppressive 'silent killers' but it is rather surprising that Dr Suzannah Lipscomb, who has done a substantial amount of historical research would think the same, even though they have been a staple piece in both men and women's wardrobes for several centuries.

I am...concerned

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I saw that to I was like so no one gonna talk about that👁️👄👁️

WHAT THE FUCK-

oh wait- WHAT

Your profile picture suits your comment 🤗

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It went extreme. But a corsette was created for support. But with time as with all things add meaning and layers of culture is added.

Lol

Ya know corsets were made for people specifically for them, and they would slowly break in the corset. to be more comfy and modern people have done things like climb trees, do pushups, and lift weights right?

Don't forget that corset though

Dude same🤣 and the fact that I have a tiny waist. Shit I guess I was born in the wrong time

I wonder if my ancestors gave birth to a malshaped baby because they felt the pressure to look skinny and curvy

Me too! (Though I’m not full blind I’m near sighted) I laugh about it all the time 😂

I don't understand why Americans want Tan/Morena skin. Give me yours in exchange of mine now!

Had to scroll through a bunch of corset arguing to find this. Glad someone else noticed it

That does not sound comfortable.

If you look at it again, it had additional grommets on the sides to accommodate the growing belly/baby. Tight lacing was very bad, but most women used corsets like we use bras and spanx today: to shape and support.

What's great was she also said men were against it, and rightfully so. In today's world it's nice to hear something good about men.

Michael Pelz most of what women go through is brought upon themselves. Feminists just blame men because they have no logic to stand on.

Curly Yasmin ???

Oh good grief. Shes just perpetuating myths. Corseting wasn't anything like this. A pregnancy corset was like wearing a maternity belt today. It's for support. Almost none tight laced. And why is she talking about it taking HOURS to get into a corset??? It took minutes. This is a tissue of lies.

Most makeup made now is vegan 🌱

@@kendraharris3052 vegan means that it contains no animal products. That doesn't make it safe. For example, the more problematic ingredients would be lead and tarc, or other harmful chemicals, which would be used in vegan products anyways. Using vegan products isn't any more healthy for us; it's just better for animals.

Kendra Harris What does that have to do with anything? Vegan doesn’t mean it doesn’t have cancerous ingredients in it.

To be fair we don't get lead poising or cancers from the daily make up products so it's safe to say that we have gone far.

Kendra Harris mercury and lead is vegan

Very accurate!

the only truth in this video some make up is actually poisonous.

It's always something!

How did it feel when u had removed it? Was it normal?

@@accuright3016 I can't talk about the experience of @Cleddyf but as a person with scoliosis, I can tell you that when I remove it (for shower or for doing any physical activity that requires back bending) I feel less pressure in my tummy, and my breath is different, but I feel like my back is not holding itself idk, it feels way too loose. I prefer when I wear a corset cuz it relieves my back pain, but the bad thing about it is that it weakens your muscles if you wear it for too much time unu, that's why I try to do exercise regularly, cuz I have to wear it at least 21 hours.

@@lilylime77 actually i have a scholosis brace..40 degree i also agree with you. I just wanted to know how does it feel to take corset of since it put pressure at one area, scholosis brace put pressure at many area so yea, thankyou by the way! Im small so i cannot wear a corset even tho i like the shape of the corset, it gives a disney princess vibes.😌☺️🙎‍♀️

Yes!

For real!

I don't think it was as inaccurate as everyone's said. The purpose of a corset was / is to support. They stated that specifically tight lacing was the harmful aspect ( and that only a minority did it ) which I'd assume to be accurate. Then again I'm no expert - can anyone clarify ? Pretty interesting subject.

Eve O'Grady Mashups although they do state that tight lacing was the more harmful yet less used way to wear a corset the way this video presents it gives the impression that it was something much more commonly worn for long periods of time. The demonstration they give is especially misleading as they tight lace her into an unseasoned corset without having any previous corset experience. It’s like saying that doing the splits is the direct cause of pulling your hamstring, and then having the demonstration be forcing someone who has never done a split in their life do a full one on their first try.

@@sc9835 I get why everyone is so annoyed over it now haha! How it was framed and the physical re enacting does seem misleading now even if the information itself wasn't actually incorrect. Maybe it's due to the different perspectives / knowledge of the historian compared to the 'corset collector' , I can only speculate. Actual corset wearers seem to know a lot more than that woman at least !

Lmaooo

Have you tried putting her in rice

What's going on? tea that’s why we have stomach acid lmao

**4-year-old me who swallowed a grain of rice by accident 👁️👄👁️**

Water Bottle I seriously can’t believe how incredibly stupid you are

"And they had to resurrect me" xD

I think it’s becuase at this time thye took it too far and laced the corsets up too tight

Did you watch the video? They wore these 24/7 and weren’t a size 0.

Are u a blink?

So some women wearing corsets that crushed their organs weren't deadly? Omg I never knew

@@a_randomperson9318 What I meant in my comment is that women didn't tight lace their corsets (but some probably did of course). Sorry if I didn't explain my point very well.

Amen 😇

OMG THANK YOU!!! I’ve been waiting to see a comment like this👏🙏🏻😁

THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT

A BODDY LIKE AN HOURGLASSS HEEEEEE YAHHHHHH

THANK YOU

I have a bustier(kinda like a corset) but when I wore it, I never done it too tight.

Actually they would paint these photos to make their waist even smaller.

I was just thinking that's exactly what they were and how depressing that we're still doing exactly the same thing today with photoshop as they were doing well over 100 years ago with illustration.

@2manynegativewaves the video did point out that they were just illustrations and not to function as they were depicted. Yet as the historian mentioned also, the movement led to even more extreme measures beyond the illustration.

I used to work on a publication that reprinted historical catalogs. The content shown here are accurate, it was amazing what items we have now had an antique equivalent.

Just curious: why? How's a corset beneficial to you?

@Katie Leon That's what I've heard. It seems to me that it's the gals that went too far and laced them too tight, or in the worst cases, had ribs removed to lace them tighter, are the ones that got into trouble.

The comments section is so informative The video is too (corset part not included)

How are they superior to what we have now?

@@hairycheet0s863 well bras dig into your shoulders and ribs, corsets don't. They supported the weight of your clothes and chest, they also supported your back and fixed your posture.

Oh my god same. I HATE DEMONIZATION OF THE VICTORIAN ERA! Please, I warn you all..Do not listen to channels like these. Please.

@@your_dad_on_vacation Man, now I want corsets back Also it is dangerous if you wear a smaller size or lace it tight so uh yeah

it was actually seen as something vain to do just like modern day face tuning of your body in pictures

Yet there's the evidence of that misshapen liver...

@@dorisfromage2349 our bodies are flexible, a pregnant woman will also have a drastic shift in her organs and she will be perfectly fine. besides, corsets were not worn like modern Spanks are. corsets served the purpose of what the bra does for us rn and they were there to support all the hoops and padding they might had under their clothes.

You a time traveler?

@@gay_3815 no,, just examples

The historian specifically said it was a minority of women who tightlaced :) (Though they definitely could have emphasized that point more!) How interesting about the midwest...in southern California padded bras are still very much a thing & "stuffing" would never ever be practiced by an adult woman.

Angelina Rose Oh yeah, that’s what I meant. Padded bras are still common, but the act of stuffing is not (most of us around here leave that behind when they get into high school, if they even partook in the first place)

Yes but it’s like waist trainers now. Most of us don’t wear them, but it’s still a big thing.

Plus what does it change about the breathtaking side effects shown by the moderator. She clearly was not tight laced and still couldn't function. It's not representative, but I reckon most women would react similarly to a (not tight laced) corset.

I guess most of this video is relating to British women which is maybe where there is a difference. I know Victorian women in the UK were laced tightly and they would Often faint.

But you didn’t live in the victorian era

@@StarWarsThrowbacks Victorian corsets are considered to be superior to most modern ones. Especially when made to measure.

same lol, I've been wearing my corset for 3 years because of my scoliosis. Even though I do breathe differently, it's not that big of a deal lol, I just breathe less with my stomach and more with my diaphragm.

THAT is the bit of information that I was looking for! As an asthmatic, I was wondering if it would even be possible for me to try to get one properly fitted for me at all.

She's amazing ! 💙

Yes,

She's really pretty.

I love her voice! I could listen to her 24/7. Really lovely lady

I strongly agree.

So cool isn’t it

I thought it was bread

@@fruitcake1513 😂

Willa Bukata preservation you dumbass? lmao

Well, we at least can see where the ribs were.

Also Bernadette Banner, who is a dress historian and has some amazing videos on the true history of corsets.

I was looking for this comment exactly

Thank you for the rational commentary on corsets. The misrepresentation here is awful, promulgating every long-busted myth about them. I'm a history re-enactor and I have worn corsets for as long as 18 hours in a day. When a corset fits correctly it's a remarkably comfortable garment. Nobody could get through the day if corsets had actually been worn as they are presented here. I have terrible issues with my spine. I found my custom-made corset to be a superb back support when I had to be on my feet for many hours, and that it assisted me in correct posture when sitting. Further, corsets were NOT worn to bed. A lady took it off, put on her night dress, and slept just as we do now. Nobody believed the drawings in advertisements any more than we believe the photoshopped images of models now.

Both Bernadette and Karolina are absolute faves of mine!

Thank you. I tried to watch this, but had to stop as I couldn't hear what they said anymore because of my shouting. :P Made it halfway. Even museums show all the myths about corsets.

Your pic sums it up perfectly. XD

The narrator is a very well established historian as well...

Oh yes! Always!

I have blonde curly hair too ! It’s possibly more curly than hers 😉😂

@@georgiaandfreya9323 Groovy! You tall and long legged like her? Petite and sweet? Slightly fluffy,and cute as a button? Good for you! I have long kinda wavy hair and a big kinda ginger and silver beard. Take care of your hair!! It can go at any time!!!!! I'm bald except for three inch wide fringe that is down past my shoulders! Kinda trying to make up for the shiny top. I was just teasing by the way, I was always jealous of my brothers. They had wavy almost curly hair and mine was board straight. When it started falling out,it started to get wavy. To little to late,I always thought. Be safe and stay healthy and let your curls flow!!!!!

tom cline in a way yes but I’m probably not as tall 😂 thank you very much though and I do my very best to care for mine! It’s sad what happened to yours but I bet you still look amazing 😁 thank you again and I will, You stay safe too!!

@@georgiaandfreya9323 Sweet! I left amazing in the rear view a long time ago! It never bothered me loosing my hair. For a while I shaved my head,it was easier when I was a firefighter,but about 11 years ago I said the heck with it! Quit shaving,and cutting my hair. Now I look like a giant lumberjack. I'm 6 foot 7inches tall and about 300 lbs,so the pony tail,giant beard look fits. Have a great day/evening( depending on your time zone)!

Musicandlyrics2400 vampire facial, diet shakes, waist trainers, and shady lip injections.

@@Katie-mw7pd A lot of today's cosmetic procedures seem crazy. Botox is one of the most deadly poisons on the planet. If in 50 years time it becomes linked with Alzheimers or cancer people will think we were crazy for injecting it into our faces. Bum implants very dangerous with high death rate . We put acid on our faces to get better skin. It could all easily be in a program like this!

Lip fillers, laser hair removal, silicone contact lenses/implants, the possibilities are endless!

Helliott Helliott I'm honestly glad Botox has a legitimate, medical use. I hope it continues to work for your son.

Thick caterpillar eyebrows, fake eyelashes, fake butt surgery, fake breasts surgery, fake lips surgery, extreme diets, extreme fashions, heavy make-up, child-labor, sex-trafficking, the list goes on and on.

It was Morgan Donner

And there is also Karolina Żebrowska who did a video on corsets.

The scoliosis corset is not a corset its a brace which does nothing like a corset

@@kyleepalmer8882 I believe it depends on who you are. I know there was someone who got an actual corset to help with their scoliosis. I just forgot who it was.

@@kyleepalmer8882 her (Bernadette banner's) waist had to be reduced inorder for her scoliosis to not get as severe. Her video on corset myths is super informative

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men were the ones who started this whole lie of corsets being bad for you

@@sunmiswashingmachine2753 yeah

I think they do realise, considering that the whole thing is about TIGHT-LACING of the corsets, made possible by the metal holes so the fabric wouldn't rip, and that they specifically mention several times that these issues were brought about by tight lacing. The bit when she tries on the corset is a bit dumb though- like obvs she's gonna find it weird if she's not used to it or it's not made for her.

Should only make you feel uncomfortable if you plan on wearing ill-fitting corsets much too tight for practical use. Tightlacing wasn’t even seen as a favorable thing, they viewed it like how many women who get lip fillers or Botox are seen nowadays, excessive.

This video is total BS. I wear a corset and find it very comfortable. Many women are going back to wearing corsets once they try a properly fitted one. It sure beats the heck out of a bra.

The corset collector actually said it. She said "Tight-lacing was a minority of people did back then" but of course they emphasize it being a majority instead

@@avourrito1819 No they empathize it because that was the point of the video. The show why some women did it and what the effects on the body were.

Thats quite gay 🥺 I like it ✨

The second Wizard of Oz book (1902) has an army of 400 girls using knitting needles as weapons, against Emerald City, to take it over. There _was_ a man at the gate with a gun, but he foolishly admitted to the whole army that it either wasn't loaded or he didn't know if it would work. And thus, they raided the whole city, and the Scarecrow (who was king) had to leave.

[you pickpocket from a stylish and obviously rich lady] [a pin stabs into your brain and kills you almost instantly] [as you fade away she picks the pin up from out your skull and smoothly puts in back in her hat]

Yeah, I found that pretty badass

I'm gay 😳💗

Hello, what period re-enacting do you do? I'm a civil war re-enactor and I agree with you when it comes to the corset. I just love my corset when I wear it. 💞💖

oh how fun!! i would love to be a re-enactor and wear those beautiful gowns and corsets. i would be totally fine with a peasant's outfit too, as they looked really pretty in their corsets and dresses as well. i have a corset that i bought at the Renaissance Fest, but it's one of those that goes over the top of the dress, has shoulder straps, and laces up in the front. i still love it though and found it to be quite comfortable. a little hot sometimes, but looked cute as hell and did wonders for my boobs!

AND, a corset is a very effective back brace! I wear the kind that go over clothing. They are made by Damsel in this Dress, and are slightly longer than many others - they extend about 3" below the waist, so I have a smooth line over the waist and hip. [My husband requested that I add "and attractive" between "smooth" and "line".] ;} p.s. and I'm 65.

Erline Leady anywhere from 1860-1912 but I LOVE my civil war corset the s-bends are fine but I love the corsets in the mid/late 1800s

Isabella Louise Wearing corset regularly weaken your back muscles and your spine is more likely to collapse when you getting older. Please consider wearing it only once in a while. :)

OH GOD XD

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WHY IS THAT SO ACCURATE!

Oof this is so true 🤣😂

So true😂😂😂

Literally that made me so mad

Nari Shemintarc true! They would wear light clothes with a black background and the areas around the waist was painted black like the background, making the waist look smaller!

People also forget that the hips and bust widths (both in images and in reality) were exaggerated to emphasize the tiny waist.

You see how in a lot of the old Victorian photos they are in front of a pretty blank backdrop, they actually just took a pen to it and coloured in the waist part. The earliest photoshopping.

Karolina zebrowaska has a video on it

How can none of you see that they’re NOT photo’s. Like the women said in the video they’re just illustrations because no women can look like that. Pay attention before you make a comment please.

Oh! I adore you! At least you're doing it in a healthy way!

Thank u I studied textiles and these corset myths bug me to no end. It takes all agency from historical women and acts like femininity made them weak, and only be dressing in a more ‘relaxed’ way as men did did they suddenly become ‘free’ (to the modern viewer at least, who may not know men’s clothing could also include shape wear...) I feel like it ignores so much complexity, cultural overlap in men’s and women’s clothing and other pressing social issues or practical issues that maybe lead women to dress a certain way, and people to encourage or discourage that mode of dress. It’s just reductionist, and relegates women’s issues down to a clothing symbol inside of something like lack of legal rights.

Lawrence Scales - Preach!

Yuppers. I have done full on 1870's with the huge rounded bustles and all the proper underpinnings. I can do almost anything in those gowns - except sit against the back of a chair **L**. These types of highly incorrect videos make me so angry because they do not teach, they perpetuate rumor.

How fascinating! Just subscribed!

she also wore it over clothing while, i believe, she was also wearing a bra

It wasn’t inaccurate though? It specifically said in the video that those dangers only came about in some corsets if they were tightened far too much, which did indeed happen

Literally

Breanna Hale nobody cares.

I care, what does seasoned mean in a corset?

@@NoName-xc1ru Seasoning takes time. It comes with wearing the corset over time, and it conforming to the individual's body better. Where she's doing the stretches and wearing it, you can see where the bottom of the corset sticking out. That's from it being new.

Exactly, that's why she was having trouble breathing. Usually it's not as brutal.

@@electricspider2267 hahaha 😂

If you're not use to it. It takes longer. This is like saying someone who wrapped a sari in 1 minutes vs to someone who isn't use to it.

LittleImpaler True, but my point is that Victorians were used to putting on corsets as they were their bras essentially. They were certainly more used to putting on a corset than I am as I only really wear one every once in awhile. This video is idiotic and I was only pointing out a single idiotic thing they said.

@@dakotah9636 It's not stupid. They kept saying a tight corset. That's the problem a tight corset.

LittleImpaler perhaps idiotic is not precisely what I meant. I meant that the information is presented in such a way as to seem idiotic to me. Their approach to proving how awful corsets are was incredibly unconvincing (that woman was suffering from anxiety at the mere mention of wearing a corset and it seemed like she was freaking herself out about it). The experiment would have been more informational if they took someone who was accustomed to wearing a corset occasionally and didn’t seem anxious about it. The whole video seems rather melodramatic when I would have preferred it to be simply factual. No need for doomsday music as enough people survived the Victorian era to keep the world very well populated. All the problematic products mentioned laid the foundation for laws being passed that tried to protect people from substances or things that were harmful to their health. It still happens today. How often do you see class action lawsuits against companies regarding their product? Things are recalled all the time (prescription drugs, baby equipment, specific parts of cars, food, etc.). It’s really not uncommon at all. I thought it was funny how they talked of all these “killers” when I don’t really feel like we’ve come very far as a society. Do we really imagine that we don’t still have similar issues with things today? Do we imagine we’ve discovered the ultimate in health, wellness, beauty, and safety? Is it really better that we drill for fossil fuel to make plastic and turn that into cloth and wear that around rather than fur? Are women today really not damaging their health and bodies by wearing heels and bras and putting who-knows-what on their skin? Not to mention the food issues we have. Do we really imagine that eating Cheetos and drinking soda is okay because the chemicals in them have been approved? (Before anyone makes the argument that they don’t consume such garbage I will also make the argument that not all women wore poisonous cosmetics or used poisonous things in the Victorian era.) As the video currently stands it just feels like more of a “Wow, people were so terrible and dumb back then. Aren’t we glad we’re so advanced now!” which doesn’t ring true to me as there are plenty of practices that I view as abhorrent that society deems to be perfectly acceptable. I very much suspect that future generations will look back at us and be astonished at our ignorance and stupidity.

@@dakotah9636 exactly my thoughts

Jamie the shame! can you imagine??

Those are the ones to keep your eye out for.

Then I want to be as loose as a bat

they were regarded as loose women, by other women. similar today how girls slut shame. crab mentality

don't say my stars

Crisader Rose was it tailor made for u, and was it made of good quality fabric and materials?

I am planning on making my own some day. I can't wait to try it! I HATE bras and am hopeing a corset is better.😅

Hannah M I want one tooooo but I have no talent w a sewing machine lol

You can always learn! 😁

Hannah M I had textile lessons and sewed my finger lmfao I have no hope but honestly imma just save money till I can afford to have one made :)

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@@E.Gabora-rg8ge Wearing them too tight obviously, that was the point of the whole video🤦🏽‍♀️. Man ya’ll are so slow.

@@CassidyStarke exactly lol, everyone overlooked the most obvious part of this video.

@@E.Gabora-rg8ge Not everyone had the privilege of having an extremely well made and fitting corset. What they most probably had to wear was mass produced corsets which were ill fitting and injurious to health ...

@@E.Gabora-rg8ge I see, thanks for the insight ... so there people who either wore very well made corsets or didn't wear any? I was also curious about the practice of tight-lacing. Was that not common? From what I've read, I gathered that it was pretty common for parents to force their adolescent kids to extremely tight-lace it and even wear to sleep in some cases ...

I have 26 inch thighs! EACH! My oldest little sister is built like you. She used to put my jeans on standing in one leg! Of course I'm 6'7" tall and at the time my sister discovered her smart ass Gene I only weighed 230 pounds.

And that's why the expert in the video specifically said that a minority of women tightlaced.

@Belle R. No point,it was just a comment on xxxmindblockxxx's comment. I just thought it was funny,and reminded me of my tiny sister. That ok with you?

@Belle R. Aww! I'm sorry! I'm a great big guy,and all my friends and little relatives loved messing with my stuff because it was always so much bigger than "normal" I understand exactly where you're coming from,I was always screwed with for being so much bigger. Totally not teasing anybody about their shape or size. Can't stand bullies. You have a wonderful day,and stay safe and be healthy.

Not true. The whole point of the corset was just tie it tighter and tighter until your waist got smaller and smaller. You're arguing against a history channel. I suggest that you do your research and check your facts before commenting on social media.

Like a _big_ difference

And they made this clear. They specifically said tight lacing, that it was unusual and that her test was not tightlaced

@@AlicePDaly her test was, and you can tell because it “squeezed the air out of her lungs” corsets don’t do that

@@yelloworange3125 you have to train to get real tight lacing. Her test was tight, corsets are tight to give a strong support. That doesn't mean "tight lacing"

@@AlicePDaly I wear corsets. No matter if it’s the first time wearing it or the last, you never feel it “take the air out” of you

True.

They'll be saying the same things about bras in 100 years as we are about corsets

Exactly.

Yeah!

Just the way I like them

@@Perdoct hol up

@@Perdoct your name makes your comment 😂

@FootBob Excuse me what?

More like nightmare

@@savannah7683 only if not fitted and gotten used to correctly

@@savannah7683 do you...do you breathe using your stomach? I breathe easier in a corset than without -- when you're wearing one that's fitted correctly it actually supports the diaphragm very nicely.

JCanaan Draws! Breathing with your stomach is actually the right way, it gets more oxygen in the lungs and it’s the first thing you learn when you become an athlete. 😐

@@raenia3655 weird bc as a singer I was taught to breathe from the diaphragm. Regardless, corsets when worn properly don't really impede breathing

@@zexycakes Although singing and althetics are two different things with different methods-

Kiera M. Smith pretty accurate too. I hate it when women in movies faint with the hand on their forehead and they daintily fall over. Elizabeth’s fainting was actually fairly accurate.

Except Pirates of the Caribbean was set in the early 1700s when the corset was different. It was a very different shape to the Victorian corset. There's a pretty good Wikipedia article on the history of the corset and in it you will see the difference. In the video above they are talking about the corset from the late 1800's at the 3:13 mark, the narrator says "In the 1860's and 70's, corsetry became increasingly extreme." So that is the period they are talking about. I've worn corsets from both periods and I have to say I find the earlier corset to be more comfortable and easier to move in. Both types are about shaping the body to an ideal but I'll take the ideal of the 1700 and early 1800s over the Victorian Ideal

flibbertygibbet that’s pretty cool. Thanks for the information.

On top of that, even in the 1860's tight lacing wasn't concidered a healthy thing to do. It was very rare to see someone with such a small waist and infact you can see where photos have been ultered. check out Bernidette Banners video and Karolina Zebrowska's videos.

Objection: Suzannah's test corset was not as tight as Victorian- they only did enough to show the negative effects without putting her at unnecessary risk.

If I calculated correctly my normal waist is 23 Inches It is about 60 cm without wearing a corset or anything just my normal waist measurements.

Lol she was basically like NOT SO FAST

That women had or ready have a thin waist lol🤔

I died at that pert idek why

That corset lady is that one person who always needs to be right... Even if it's only by 3/4s of an inch

@Demi Daouairi periodt

Its like a bra and a bulletproof vest 😂

@@yasmineisrael2713 yes!

Literally I can’t remember the article but it was a Victorian article that detailed about an account where a women had been shot by a man and the steel bones of her corset ricocheted the bullet off and saved her life!!

@@aubreytalley650 But couldn't it also go between gaps, and then you'd have the struggle of trying to get the corset off at the hospital?

YES! Agree!!!

I don’t know who to believe tbh

Like anything these days, I'm sure many people did not know how to fit into a corset. Of course not everyone in Victorian times wore a tight corset, and they were probably the ones using them correctly. It's society that dictates what is right and wrong...

They definitely laced her too tight and/or put her in a drastically ill fitted corset for her to have that reaction. I’ve worn corsets for theatre for years while I sing and dance and NEVER felt like I was about to pass out. In fact I have better breath support when I wear it rather than without. Think about all the opera singers out there, it takes a LOT of breath to hit high notes (I know because I’m a true soprano) if their breathing was as restricted as they are trying to have you believe then there’s no way that you would have any Sopranos in opera.

Not only that, they had so much padding to fake curves as well. So if you pad out your hips and bust a ton then any waist is going to look small. It’s all about perspective.

Same here! 😳

ikrr

I was holding my breath and I exhaled when I saw your comment lol.

This wasn’t a good representation of the use of corsets actually.. if you want to know more check out videos by Karolina Zebrowska or Bernadette Banner who are dress historians and wear vintage clothing including corsets..

Omg I felt the same feeling!

It's a catch 22 if your not careful! I'm staying pale and straight hair and just wait for fashion to catch up with me!

Lol me too

@@maryjoyspohrer256 yep, absolutely, I keep my hair curly 95% of the time and sunbathe rarely, I don't want to ruin my hair and skin! It's just ironic how I, and so many other women, want to change what edwardian women went through so much struggle to get. Beauty standards really put a lot of struggles into our lives.

If you wanted to learn you could just research

Lol, i said the same thing

Thank you! There are so many bs comments here it’s absurd

You watch Karkona Zebrowska’s to

Yes!!! Thank you, these people in this vid did little or no research at all

You are all hilarious. These are all renowned academics and historians. They work with existing, peer reviewed data. They very clearly say that a minority of people tight-laced. Get over yourselves ffs 🤦‍♀️

Omg get off of this video ur a boy

@@savannah7683 but boys wore corsets or rather stays but that's beside the point

@@savannah7683 so? they're not wrong, and besides men wore corsets too

The video was ONLY about the women that did it to the extreme. They’re not saying every corset every is gonna kill you.

RebelBelle can you imagine how productive we would be?

Wouldnt that be somthing lol

Productive counting the minutes until you could take your NEXT hit of cocaine, it fades SO fast. Speed highs last for HOURS, by comparison, however, both are inevitably addictive & absolutely horrible for a person, physically & mentally & their LIFE, unfortunately.

they used to give cocaine to soldiers in world war 2 but their young 20 year old soldiers kept dying from heart attacks, why? cause cocaine is a upper and speeds your heart up; take enough of it and your heart gives out eventually..

RebelBelle it became illegal for a reason lol

They aint that bad none of em fit me

That beauty ideal has come back but now it's updated 😂

Thought the same damn thing

But we have a choice of what to wear at least

@Jessica Geary Big Mac

THANK YOU