The Book of The New Sun: A Postmodern Epic

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An introduction about The Book of The New Sun by Gene Wolfe. www.pilleater.com
Music: Kevin MacLeod - Hiding Your Reality

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@MasterMalrubius
@MasterMalrubius 2 жыл бұрын
The book doesn't end when you read the last page. So true. I read Shadow many years ago and still go back to it. Sometimes for a specific passage and sometimes, like Severian I get caught up in my memories.
@amritt1989
@amritt1989 2 жыл бұрын
Now I wonder, did I even read those 12 books.
@doclime4792
@doclime4792 Жыл бұрын
You'd have to be an anti-liberal or a reactionary to understand it through this viewpoint. Sorry bud.
@tsetensun5449
@tsetensun5449 5 жыл бұрын
A beautiful and deeply layered series. I've been reading them regularly since 1987. Sad so few people know of them.
@ClimekCrap
@ClimekCrap 2 жыл бұрын
Really good video. I love BotNS its my favourite
@charlesgillingham61
@charlesgillingham61 Жыл бұрын
"The coming of the new sun" is literally that. Excellent review.
@kentallard8852
@kentallard8852 Жыл бұрын
Severian is not a Christ figure. Wolfe was very specific on that. Nor does he time travel to become Christ and found Christianity - where on earth did you get this, he becomes Apu-Punchau.
@pilleater
@pilleater Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the Amazing Atheist commentary! I should of known it had something to do with Nick Land instead! Maybe you should ask, "where on URTH did you get this from a Catholic author??"
@kentallard8852
@kentallard8852 Жыл бұрын
@@pilleater amazing athiest? nick land? wut
@pilleater
@pilleater Жыл бұрын
@@kentallard8852 I can read the same ending and conclude it was a Oedipus Complex. Again, citing from Erik Von Daniken, Severivan is, and how to explain, the supernatural power of Christ. In other words, Jesus was a time traveling space alien.
@TBOTSS
@TBOTSS 3 ай бұрын
@@pilleater You are one seriously deluded human being.
@derpherp1810
@derpherp1810 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to read this because it reminds me of Hyper Light Drifter and I wish to rediscover the child like wonder of exploring the ruins and decoding the secrets of a fallen alien civilization. But this video just sounds absurd, still gonna read the book tho.
@3choblast3r4
@3choblast3r4 Жыл бұрын
idk if you've read it but the book is a lot more absurd in a good way. But the video spoils a ton of stuff
@robertjacques6812
@robertjacques6812 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@Avzigoyhbasilsikos
@Avzigoyhbasilsikos 2 жыл бұрын
Are you from the cult ?
@bwatson77
@bwatson77 2 жыл бұрын
While BOTNS is a work of genius, I wouldn't categorize it as postmodern (same goes for Infinite Jest, which is a work of *metamodern* rather than postmodern fiction). Stylistically, BOTNS is much closer to a work of high modernism such as Uylsseys than it is to something like Gravity's Rainbow. Just the fact that the book uses the hero's journey as a broad template and has something approaching a linear structure is enough to disqualify it as postmodern fiction. The book may be aware of itself as a text, but thats not something postmodernism has any exclusive claim to (hell, something as old as Don Quixote was aware of itself as a text back in the 1600s).
@matthewscrivner1501
@matthewscrivner1501 Жыл бұрын
100% agree - and it's disturbing to see Wolfe claimed as a hero of the reactionary right; especially when he himself rejected such connections in his introduction to A Land Across, and at least thematically in Wizard Knight. I do agree that he was an arch-catholic but I dint think that makes him the leader of some conservative political movement in science fiction. I read even his Catholicism as more skin to the spirituality presented in Dostoevsky and Tolstoy; making him perhaps and last and greatest of the modernist SciFi writers writers, exceeding Pynchon, Wallace, even Vonnegut in his literary mastery across multiple genres and themes. Anyhow, cool video my dude. Your love for the books is apparent.
@bobross7005
@bobross7005 5 ай бұрын
What’s the background video from?
@pilleater
@pilleater 5 ай бұрын
Some old public domain clips.
@bobross7005
@bobross7005 5 ай бұрын
@@pilleater gotcha. Great video, dude. Gonna read it now.
@kentallard8852
@kentallard8852 Жыл бұрын
"now there is a reactionary and anti-liberal audience that finds his work appealing" - you sound like Homer trying to get Krusty to oppose pants
@pilleater
@pilleater Жыл бұрын
I'm not making any anti-semitic remark about Krusty!
@SilverTonguedCavalier
@SilverTonguedCavalier 7 ай бұрын
This is Neuro Jack. Looking forward to talking again
@pilleater
@pilleater 7 ай бұрын
Hey! My family called me to wish a happy new year, so I had to attend that for another hour! Feel free to contact me on Twitter or Telegram too!
@BornofIron
@BornofIron 2 жыл бұрын
To anyone hesitant on the book: even as a liberal leaning guy, I can't help but admire what the work is in itself. Cautionary as it is reflective. Philosophical as simultaneously it feels like someone is sincerely talking out of their ass. On one hand even in religious contexts, while it is forbidden to mimic God and God Incarnate (Jesus) that doesn't dismiss the potency of one growing and manifesting themselves to act and mimic in the sense of striving for essence. Sevarian is both normal as he is abnormal. IF he was given Kantian ethics from birth then the possibilities of his genuine good COULD be considered Christ-like. Instead we are given a character is is both aware and unaware as we are of his ramifications (like Eren Jaeger to my fellow weebs) and reconciled for his assholeness as he basically achieved godhood and yet is a slave to causality. (Which to any Aquinas fan basically shoots down that he is God). What I'm saying is, the world is philosophically sound BECAUSE of its absurdity. It's millions of years in the future to a life we cannot comprehend as much as hes in "South America" but is in a world of a weakening sun. It's grasping concepts that genuinely would cripple the mind in a sense similar to Quantum Suicide. It's told be THE most irredeemable figure who considers himself a rebel against the system as much as he is a COMPLETE jackass. Like Greek heroes who cheat on their wives with essentially demons and Vikings who don't even repent after murdering under werewolf-like contexts. It makes "sense" in *context* and cultural norms. His norm is our taboo. Period. But oddly enough you need to take "liberal arts" to grasp it. Excellent video, I hope more folks jump down the rabbit hole because it helped me rekindle a love for lots of subjects.
@pilleater
@pilleater 2 жыл бұрын
I apologize for my esoteric digging that went too far into Alex Jones territory.
@BornofIron
@BornofIron 2 жыл бұрын
@@pilleater I wouldn't say it did. It's a complicated book and some folks don't realize that a wiki search or that compendium of vocabulary is necessary.
@miquelmauri5277
@miquelmauri5277 2 жыл бұрын
I have tried several times to read this book cause I like the idea and environment, but because how the book is written makes it a quite unpleasant experience
@3choblast3r4
@3choblast3r4 Жыл бұрын
Bro you started off the video giving the impressing you wouldn't spoil the book. But then spoil the living fk out of it. I haven't read urth of the new sun yet.
@Signal_in_the_noise
@Signal_in_the_noise 11 ай бұрын
Yah I stopped the video at the 5 minute mark as soon as I started catching the hint. I just started the very first book.
@pilleater
@pilleater 2 жыл бұрын
Literally some fed made a comment and wrote "Why do you Nazis always have to ruin shit?" Just saying I don't tolerate modernity, the real sickness the liberalism. Spoken like a true Ascian. This is why we can't have cosmic socialism. 🤓
@TBOTSS
@TBOTSS 3 ай бұрын
Ascian's are Communists - can you not read?
@narcisraiciu6919
@narcisraiciu6919 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I just have a quick question: Would you recommend non-English speakers to read a translated version, then read again the English version?
@pilleater
@pilleater 5 жыл бұрын
I have never read TBOTS outside English. But the English language is connected with the book, and that there will be things missing from a Spanish or Japanese translation. It's like Finnegan's Wake. But yes, non-English speakers should read the book in their own language first. I mean, I read Céline in English. Yet I am told you can only understand Journey in French and pick up things only in French culture and language. What makes the book different is its eclectic illusion that confuses the reader, and also has a deep iceberg twist about an alien elite and gnostic religion.
@CaminoAir
@CaminoAir 5 жыл бұрын
Is it the case that the aliens want humanity to die off? I remember that they wanted humanity confined to Earth (Urth), but were undecided (or not unanimous) about our ultimate fate? Did I misinterpret this?
@pilleater
@pilleater 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe the blind son of Typhon had ill will against humanity, possibly destroying the sun because he is blind. I think its more like decadence, and humanity, aliens, gods, and the elites feel it is hopeless. Maybe a commentary about atheism or nihilism?
@CaminoAir
@CaminoAir 5 жыл бұрын
@@pilleater I guess it's time for me to re-read 'TBofNS'. I'm getting vague about a lot of the story (and that's not even getting into the concealed elements).
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