It's impressive how you can demonstrate how good technique is a big part for drawing heavy bows. You're a 60kg well fit man and you do things that monsters on steroids would never do

I dont shoot Chinese or Manchu style, but I watch exactly for stuff like this! There's so much applicable also to traditions which use dissimilar bows. Even tho I shoot Turkish (opposite of Manchu in some ways) so much of this is directly applicable to the Ottoman/Turkish style. To have some stuff applicable to Turkish style in English (not forgetting effort of abulkabza and tirendaz ofc!) is really a godsend. Don't have coaches here either, so some visual with the explanations is really useful for me. Keep up the good work and thanks for all the content!

Thank you so much for your extremely useful videos! For me, "bow shoulder" was a game-changer and I realized it on practice right the next day.

Wow. 100 plus both right and left handed. Plus, good info well described. I am now your student.

Very helpful! I'm the only person I know who shoots asiatic style archery, so I'm on my own learning this stuff 🙂

Thank you Justin; after your explanation, this immediately relieved any pain I was experiencing. Being new to the sport, you saved my shoulder! (Liked, commented and subscribed...)

I only shoot #30 so far with thumb draw, but this explains why I have stability problems -- I've been settling the shoulder and rotating my elbow properly, but have been reaching outward as opposed to drawing the shoulder blade back. Thanks for this, Justin! Hopefully this should solve my stability issues I have with my bow hand :) I'd like to add that, I'd love to see more instructional videos like this! You do a great job of explaining things, and it seems like there are very few good instructional videos for practitioners of archery that use the thumb draw in English, if at all. If you're considering doing more of these types of videos, I'd love to see one for better technique with the actual thumb drawing process itself. I wonder to myself if the soreness I feel in my thumb after a number of shots is more the ring or my own technique (i.e. over-curling the thumb around the string)

Thanks for this video. I started archery a year ago with a #35 recurve. Recently I've wanted to move up in weight and I have a #50 now. I couldnt draw the bow. I tried with your method and it was SO MUCH EASIER!

I just need to start my trening again :> I miss the days when I was shooting my bow

Thank you for sharing the technique! I'm a beginner and have raised bow shoulder even though have learned step 1 & 3, but the scapular retraction in the 2nd step exactly fix my problem immediately

Thanks very much! Your videos are very inspirational for those who want to shoot really heavy bows and avoid maiming themselves alltogether!

Well researched. Really good analysis. Well presented and easily digested. This is probably one of the best sources that can be found on you tube. Regardless of shooting style.

Perfect video in the perfect time! Blake Cole was just teaching to me this method with step by step pics (thank you Boss 😎). Thank you so much Justin for passing on your knowledge 😊😊😊 Ps : I just understand with this video that this technic is exactly the same in traditional ju-jitsu I learned 20 years before, a "simple" arm lock to transfers energy an strengh to the whole back muscles... KZfaq is definitively excellent!

I dont think anyone can top this vid ever

Very impressive , thank you. Just in time for my learning. Can't wait for the draw shoulder vid.

My greatest respect. Thank you very much. The explanation is better than I have ever hoped for…...Grabs Grózer and goes outside 😬

Justin!! Thank you very much for sharing this method . I appreciate🙏 Great day!

A nice clear and concise explanation. Thank you.

Incredible explanation of the technique, thank you so much!

Great video! Thanks for posting it.

VERY cool and very informative. Best controlled shots with heavy bows I've ever seen. Thank you.

Thanks for this video. Great explanation of shoulder technique....will definitely try it out.

This was very useful, thank you!

Excellent video! Calmly explained, to the point, great and useful info from multiple angles, with a demonstration. This is how videos should be done, fantastic job! I know building a channel takes time and money and effort, but you have a great thing going here and you know your stuff, will check your Patreon.

IT is very useful for me to reference. i have bow shoulder probmers now. thank you Ma

Got a new heavy horse been having shoulder trouble since. this has been a huge help. thanks

Appreciate the lesson. Made a noticeable difference for me.

Glad I found this starting, great instructions.

Wow, thank you so much for this!

Just found your channel today, and I'm loving the informative, detailed explanations!!! I shoot a recurve with a Mediterranean draw, but the information you share is still SO HELPFUL!!! Thank you so much for your willingness to share 🙏💯🔥

Just love the way you demonstrate your points so explicitly. The indepth analysis and explanations show the entire mechanics of the exercise with regard to draw technique and release. Who would have known the amount of muscle interaction required to affect an efficient release of the bow string and arrow. Had someone such as yourself not taken time to explain this information to the viewing audience. Thank you so much.

Thank you so much for this video! This explanation is going to help a lot in me correct my form with my 75lb

Thank you - You are a wonderful instructor

definitely useful instructional videos in traditional archery technique I've ever seen

Well done. Very understandable!

Excellent explanation. With my experience with martial arts, it explains a lot about position of shoulder muscles and bones , compared to ,let's say , simple punch . It explains to me why I shoot 30" arrows. This technique comes naturally to me , of course I have training in it as well . Once again, great video .

Impressive and helpful - thank you!

Thank you very much. This is what I'm looking for.

Excellent explanations and seeing you shoot both right and left handed0.0!

i've never seen a video with 100% likes... very important information every archer should learn.

Hi Justin! Very good video!

Just finish the way of archery book and this video is very help me to learn more and more :)) also include biomechanics physio medical term too :D

I did oilfield work all my life. I doubt i could handle a 40 lbs draw.great vid thumbs up

Here I thought my shoulder was fine! That retract to the spine just opened my eyes up big time! Thanks brother!

Good teacher

That’s super helpful! Could you also do an episode on breathing? Thanks

Thanks for this.

Thanks !

Great! THX for the good explanation :-)

Thanks and Thanks alot! you solve my problem

Very nice explanation! :-)

Thank you! This is all I have to say!

awesome info. thank you :)

Awesome video. Full with informative archery stuff. You might want to consider using microphone for your future video. Thanx

Hi my friend I will miss seeing you this year at the salt flats. Hope all is well with you and your family

Brilliant

Justin : here's how you do the stuff... Let me show you using the bow with a draw weight as heavy as my body weight.

Hello!. First a big thank you for sharing and making solid good videos. I recently made the transfer from 3D compound archery to asiatic style bows. Thumb release(the works). I find it challenging(mildly under exaggerated) at best!. Aiming???? How?? 😂😂😂 i point now. I get good groupings but not in the center!.

This technique is great, lets me pull 85# right from 65# I shot so far.

greate!!!

Hi :-) I am a senior transitioning from firearms to archery and I have lots of time to practice, thus I am enjoying the meditation and the silence of the archery very much. I am interested in "The Way of Archery" but since I live in a remote area of the Andes Mountains I cant get your book here, I want to request you produce a digital version of the book I can buy. Thank you.

Thanks for sharing Justin. Truly remarkable skill. Just a question on the use of Khatra-type bow rotations in Chinese military archery. Does it exist in the manual and if so, how is it applied in the 3 steps method as described in your video?

Fantastic video! It would be a little better with a tight sleeveless t-shirt which would allow us to see all the muscles and tendons and bones. But thank you so much for what you have given us!

finally i got the bow shoulder right after repeating 6.40 - 6.50 thousand times and try to mimic it

Can't wait till they do testing showing how long they can shoot before tiring. Pulling War Bows is hard work!

Awesome rundown, very clear explanation. Are you a physio?

This is a very good start. Shoulder stabilization with the arm in abduction (way from midline) and moving into flexion (as if raising the arm to over head) is when inferior glide of the scapula is most necessary. Ignored in this discussion is inferior/posterior glide of the humerus (arm bone) in the glenoid fossa (the small flat place that the head of the humerous contacts on the scapula). The shoulder is the most freely moveable joint in the body. It is actually a complex of scapula/thoracic (shoulder blade and ribs), scapula/clavicula (collar bone), scapula/humeral (arm bone) and cervical spine because the scapula's upper connection/upper trapezius/levator scapulae muscles require balance between what pulls the shoulder blade superior and what pulls it inferior...not just one or the other. It is posible to stabilize the glen-humeral joint by depressing the scapula AND expand the the g/h joint (to counter over-compression) by pushing the bow (just enough) toward the target without scapulas elevation.. This is somewhat akin to observing how ballet dancers achieve their long neck appearance.FYI the latissimus brings the arm behind the the back and internally rotates the humerus..if you will, it is responsible for anal hygiene. More accurate to describe elbow that you perform as external rotation. At the lowest level muscles work in agonist/antagonist pairs. As for 'back tension' one might desire not so much to run the scapula as close to the spine or as retracted as possible but rather, yes, move scap inferior and medial but leave room for the scapula to move even more at the moment of release. Elsewise that back tension release would require jamming scap into the spine (on the string side) and/or spinal rotation. Surely it gets complicated...In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is.

I need to train harder!

Could you do a short video showing the actuall impact of an arrow from a Manchu bow this heavy, on the target itself, let's say on 10-20 yards? I've seen a 4 second video of such a hit and it looks like a canon launched that arrow al the way to the fletching and the target fell over, would be really interesting to see what these bows were capable of and how it looked like when such a massive arrow hit.

Awesome man. Curious, what are you using in your draw hand? Looks like a catch?

I am a little confused. I watched a Jake Kaminski Video. He says to reach out the bow arm towards the target. But he is a Barebow Archer, maybe they have to use a different technique.

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now i explain the steps. hold on! lefty?.. too savage dustin

Does this shorten your potential draw length with the shoulder depressed?

Where can I get the bow you're using here?

Hi Justin, I wonder if I should put an arrow knock on my chinese bow. I see you have one. What was Gao Ying's thought on that?. How should it be set for this technique? Thanks K

Hi, would you agree with my assumption that someone who has practice in doing the heavy kind of manual/physical work of many kinds and crafts, - would naturally or intuitively do exactly what you showed. While someone who isn't exactly the manual type (may or may not have some degree of experience in archery) would rather tend to do the mistakes you also showed? In other words, with the acquisition of some (typically more) strength from manual work that requires strength, also comes the ability (and intuition) of using it correctly and efficiently.

It looks like you shoot from your riser on the opposite side. Shouldnt the arrow be sitting on the outside of the bow and not the inside? Total newb here, sorry if that's dumb.

Step 2 hurts though

Is this Chinese Neo?

I think if you had done this shirtless and we could actually see the muscles you're talking about, it would've made it more easier to visualize.

From his archery's manual, Gao Ying always stressed the need to lower your bow shoulder, your form properly showed what he said, but why you gripped the bow by dead man grip? I thought Gao Ying recommended "大鹰爪" which is the most stable grip according to his 武经.

Watching how you shoot heavy bows vs how Historical Archery shoots bows, is night and day. He looks like he is straining himself so much, like it looks bad for his body. But when you shoot, it looks natural, it looks the same as when you shoot a lighter bow, just slight strain in the face.

such a great video.. until he tried to prove how strong he is...:/