They kept Maeve alive but killed Noir. That too in the most disappointing way possible. He did come back after his brains got bashed in. I really hope he comes back. But with the rate the writers are creating the storyline, especially after this disappointing finale (Butcher stopping Soldierboy to kill Homelander and much more), it's really hard to say.

They are swapping Noir for Ryan.

In the comics Annie can fly

He was great as always but Jensen was my MVP for the season

Oh this year definitely rigged if Anthony Starr or anyone else from the show does not get a Award or something. But yeah great performances around the show !

He will, but still rigged.

I mean awards shows have always been rigged. It's not about talent or skill, it's about which production company gives the best blowjobs.

Cannot win one this year since they missed the award cutoff starting s3 in june. He’ll be nominated for next year’s. And he wasn’t nominated for his S2 performance which is a shame. I think The Boys is nominated for drama and that’s it.

He’s reverse Frankenstein’s monster: Vought made a monster that has to be fed adoration and is more and increasingly monstrous as a result

that’s not at all what they did they are merely humanizing him because that’s how you make an antagonists character journey compelling and it stop them from falling into the “generic bad guy who kills people” category

I guarantee that Ryan dies in season 5 and that makes Homelander snap and become a homicidal mass killer

Well, embracing one side of his humanity, the selfish power hungry side. If the writers really wanted him to embrace being human, taking his powers away would have been truly experiencing all his humanity. Bit disappointed but the Ryan storyline is very interesting direction.

@@centripetal6157 Ryan kills Homelander 100%

here's hoping they have the balls to kill him off

To be honest, I think Soldier boys is the strongest.

Exactly,he's a good dad,unlike his father.

Like Soldier Boy himself said, he wanted to do better than his father. When Soldier Boy rejected him Homelander learned that lesson for himself. I don't expect Homelander to be the one to break the generational chain but hey, crazier things have happened.

His literal son from rape...

i think the fact that there are long gaps between seasons, you forget that in season 2 homelander showed signs that he likes to take care of his son(flying him out from a vought venue when it got overwhelming for brian) and wants to give the love he craved for when he was a child. the love is genuine. This doesnt change the fact that he will be a bad example for brian as we saw in the end of this season as he is not fit to be a parent.

@@aaditkhan728 He’s not a good dad, yes he ‘cares’ about Ryan and wouldn’t want to see him get hurt. Firstly I don’t think it’s the type of care that you or I would feel towards a child. Also the fact that he atleast cares is the only difference between soldier boy and Homelander, but that doesn’t mean he’s a good dad. What good dad kills someone in front of their child, especially when it might ruin his own son’s reputation due to association, as it’s probably being recorded? And Homelander obviously is aware of that since he’s familiar with being recorded and in situations like that, yet he chooses to break for the first time ever when his son is there? I honestly think Homelander is a psychopath and incapable of love. He cares about Ryan because when he looks at Ryan he sees himself. When that guy threw the object and it hit Ryan, from Homelander’s perspective, it was like an attack against a mini-him and not Ryan. Homelander doesn’t care about ‘Ryan’, he is infatuated with himself and wants Ryan to be the next him, so for that he cares about Ryan - not his mother’s ‘Ryan’. It’s like he loves the concept of what he can turn Ryan into, or what he believes Ryan already is. I’d be seriously worried for Ryan if Ryan ever defies him and permanently sides with Butcher right in front of Homelander, and if Ryan decides he doesn’t want to be the ‘mini-Homelander’. I think Homelander would hesitate but I seriously think Homelander is capable of and would want to kill his own son in that situation. Ryan is definitely in danger in my opinion, but I doubt he will actually die in this show. Soldier boy said to Homelander “You’re me. You’re a ******* disappointment.” Homelander however wants Ryan to be him, that is why Becca tried to hide Ryan from Homelander, she knew that.

NOT MOI WOIFES SON!!

The *my wife's son.* line made me laugh

Idk why are people so against Ryan. Butcher is right! He made a promise... And thats just a lil kid

@@shivampachauri1200 exactly bro and butcher’s feelings for Becca is always going to be his biggest weakness

@@Mojj2099 reminds me of the quote that goes along the lines of "if something can change you, then it is your weakness". I dont remember it very well please dont bully me lmao

Thank you! I was thinking hang on, why is everyone saying it was Ashley#2 - has she started wearing glasses?

ohh. i also thought it was the ashley now i feel dumb that I forgot Annika and also didn't recognise her

she's one of hte only ones from crime analytics that wasnt fired by The Deep lol

He definitely has to come back, I’m pretty sure they plan on making 2 more seasons.

@@kevinprzy4539 give it 3 for good measure

@@TheLordNovo We dont want to (Mothers) milk it. One more season is enough if they can rap it up nicely.

he needs his own spin-off.

@@twopeople158 Like they did with Kripke's first series Supernatural? He wrote 5 seasons. Maybe he likes the number 5.

Also the only one that had some sense in the room. Homelander is the biggest threat.

@@za-ir5ni Yeah I Would've Just Taken The Kid Out Then Kill Homelander.... Like But It's Too Emotional For Butcher And He Felt The Need To Do Something About It Right Then And There

couldn’t have said it better myself, sucks that she seems so underpowered

To be fair Soldier Boy is just slightly weaker Homelander. And he was on his ass for a good 10-15 seconds

@@paul-juniorblack6151 yeah you’re not wrong, i guess seeing maeve go toe to toe with homelander and starlight’s super power attack that can only be used once before she needs another room full of electricity it just feels like even if they sent him flying backwards a little more? plot would’ve been the same and it’s not soldier boy can’t take being put through a wall or something. would’ve just helped to make her seem like she’s got a bit more power. scene was badass

@@dylanbsll6342 A lot of people question the Maeve thing I find it weird. Homelander is the strongest but he doesn't completely outclass Maeve and Soldier Boy. I think thats why he respects Maeve because she's decently strong. Especially since Homelander doesn't train and she was going at it for 4 months straight. I think Maeve was weaker but just fought better. Plus the whole fight Homelander was avoiding her. He didnt want to fight her. Even at the end he blinded her then punched her away and walked away from her. He probably wasn't fighting to kill

@@paul-juniorblack6151 A lot of people misunderstand that scene as her going toe to toe with him. Its him tryiing not to fight her up until he gets mad and just takes her eye, casual af to she could do nothing to stop a man on the ground from grabbing her and taking her eye. Then he punched her once and she had to go through the effort of picking herself up, every hit from him winded tf outta her and he didnt want to kill her. Just handdle soldier boy, mightve gotten a dead soldier boy if she didnt interfere.

If the character comes back, she'll most likely get killed off for real. So better not unless they'll actually start having the actor around all season unlike the 2-3 episodes per season.

Also, this show ends with Season 5. So most likely this was it for Queen Maeve. I don't know what use Maggie would be for the Boys, so better leave her to her dream life she earned I'd say. & Focus on bringing back Black Noir and his revenge arc.

@@AlistairDAlmeida it would be stupid to bring her back just to kill her, i hope her story is done.

Maybe a cameo near the end, we come at a breaking point and she either comes back to give some Intel to the boys or maybe becomes public again to give a testimony to the people about the effects of true unchecked power Something like that idk

theres the possibility of Homelander killing her in the next season, since similar unexpected deaths happened in the end of the comics... not sure if they are going into such concept, anything is possible

lmao yeah that was my first thought, she threw that thing out so nonchalantly, I was like "yup, someone, somewhere, just died"

Chances are nothing would really happen it would smash and then dissipate into the air, wasn't that much of it either, only way it would hurt someone is if there literally breathing it in as it rose up to their face.

They already went with 'russian radicalised soldier boy' as a cover up so the simultaneous attack with a russian nerve agent would surely just fit that cover

"A Manhattan citizen seems to have been on Moscows bad side. Roy Mitchell was found dead in his apartment, killed with infamous Russian nerve agent 'Novichok'. The Kremlin have denied any involvement, but Mitchell's family doesn't buy it. More at eight"

it wasn't even intended for homelander, but that was maeve's only screwup. the rest of the show she was fine af.

She'll be the new Ashley😆 I'm joking. I'm hoping she won't

Noir seems to be pretty close to immortal, he doesn't have a healing factor, but if he can survive literally losing part of his brain, I think he can survive a hole in his chest so I bet he will return

@@LiilYogurt pretty sure Homelander serving up his mask is an all-but definitive certificate of death for Noir

Like many of said, but ask yourself, what were Noirs powers? being strong that's like literally normal for any supe in this verse. I think Kimkos power reveal doubled as foreshadowing for Noirs power, very similar but different his wounds don't heal, he lives with the damage, brain damage after Soldier boy and burns scars and such. I think Noir is literally unkillable and that is his main power, sure he's strong and sneaky. His wounds don't heal perfect and now his latest grudge has been given to homelander

Agree. Seemed pointless building him up.

Also sucked cause he literally goes to homelander to help him kill soldier boy just for him to realize homelander wants the opposite and kills him really hope he comes back

noir was more snake eyes than batman. guess they had nothing left for him to do.

he was more of a backround character, there was almost nothing to him... how much screen time did he get in all of the seasons combined it must be less than 10 min...

@@neogeo1670 Fuck that shit

I hope he comes back somehow. Reminds me of Boba Fett in Empire Strikes Back. Doesn't really say much but is badass and a fan favourite

He didn't die

Well said

that's... not at all what the "shit" means. She said that cuz she knew that this would be the end for all of them. Butcher was actively protecting Ryan, M.M Annie and Hughie were too close to SB so they would die once from the blast (Annie would die cuz she's not durable, Marvin and Hughie was a non-supe) so she knew that she was the only possible sacrifice. Like she said, she had nothing to lose. She chose to jump with SB cuz she knew she was the only one.

@@bookwormd8627That my friend is what a HERO does

That's what good writing and potential cancer/certain death can do. (I also want them to take perm V.) I think if butchers given enough time he'd evolve into someone like Homelander, but worse, Homelander is a child or at least a man child, butcher has been human, had to fight, and is smart enough to find people who can help him kill supes as a normal man what will he do as someone who was only flying away from being a Homelander in his extremes.

I thought that after butcher and huey ran their course,MM and Frenchie would try it out too

@@pamoweiberezi5315 i like that idea. Butcher and Hughie is done with their powers, they got what they needed from it, and now it's frenchie and MM's turn

@@dakodareid3807 I mean. That's why Butcher gets Homelander powers when he's on Temp V. Under the right circumstances, they are the same...

I think butcher will take compound V is season 4. Compound V could be lethal for adults, but he has nothing to lose now. I know in the comics the boys take compound V specifically designed for adults, but that hasnt been introduced in the show. And the show is nothing like the comics so who knows

Terry Pratchett was a treasure that we will sadly never be able to replace.

Never heard that before but it's a great diss

I was screaming. Just move the kid and keep it going he wasn’t even awakeeeee

Yeah Im the same way, it was honestly pretty bad writing, this episode showed they plan on milking this show, almost nothing in the plot advanced, Homelander can kill in front of people now and Ryan is on Homelanders side to become Homelander 2.0, thats pretty much it, were back to the beginning of S3. Soldier Boy deserved better, best character in S3 honestly.

@@TrendTrove171 ig another way to look at it is that if SB actually did blast HL/Ryan it would prob cause the entire tower to collapse killing thousands of ppl. but butcher and maeve didnt care about that initially and just wanted HL dead. but after seeing Ryan, remembering his promise to becca, and then also recounting Lenny he realized that he can't let all those people die which is why he had to stop SB from blasting anyone

Yeah for real. Such a waste to have him this whole season and even have him turn against his son to just butcher/ryan stepping in and screw them over. Solider boy would have killed homelander so easily. And than they could have all teamed up against him afterwards because he needs to recharge.

@@xXxLegolas007xXx They back to zero.. because they doesn't have superpower like soldier boy again in season 4 to take out Homelander again

with the timestamp on butchers life now i see this series ending with season 4

@@Dankusmemes I think the writers said they originally planned 5 seasons and it looks like they'll stick with that, but Butcher might take perma-V to survive then still go with the comics ending plan since he had a year to live originally

@@tobycrow oh i didnt know the writers said that

@@Dankusmemes it’s clear he’ll use permanent V it’s what the fans have wanted and the writers aren’t going to let them down

what is that master plan

Seriously. In the UK we had people die from trace amounts of Novichok investigating Putin's assassination of Russian ex-agents. That bottle could easily kill the whole city

I mean I'm no expert but according to the show it is a liquid that needs to be made into a vapor to be airborne, so if it just smashed somewhere it would likely only have a small if any body count.

@@joshuad3507 If that's the case how were they going to get Soldier boy to take it? They did walk with it with the express purpose of using it to subdue him.

@@vaginalarthritis1753 Plothole I guess? Just went off what the show says, with Frenchie realising it isn't gas but vaporised liquid that they used in the video. Maybe it was already a vapor in the bottle or they had a eay to vaporise it idk, my chemistry ain't that good.

@@joshuad3507 wasn't it in a perfume botte or something so it could be sprayed?

The do deserve paid vacations and dental plans.

@@jeringatai3156 Right!?

I feel like it would’ve been better if he wasn’t necessarily injured but flew across the room to the wall of through a wall or something. Still can get the same scene but show how powerful she is

@@TrypleStrike Or just have it not take so long to power up

I think making SB nauseous after the attack will have more impact, then they can grab him and try to make him sleep. Cause I can understand why it didn't hurt SB that much cause he has a tougher skin than any other supe(getting hit by 2 uncontrollable laser, Ryan, Butcher and 1 laser of Homelander and only getting knock back but not getting deep scars) then having only 1 scar from all that fight. But yeh, Starlight power up doesn't even do anything. It deals like 50 damage, without any debuff.

@@TGNova04 it didn't really take long, the scene was in slow mo

Ehh I semi-agree, but it was literally the most impactful attack anybody had given him, besides Ryan who he got when soldier boy was distracted by homelander, like soldier boy was very on guard after homelander and butcher knocked him back, but starlight’s was the only one that concussed him and obviously disoriented him because he was able to be held down

No body was able to do something to SB Besides Hlander

Homelander will find her + kill her and kidnap the child she will have after that one night stand with Butcher

i'm dissapointed she survived

@@piotrswat169 🤨

@@piotrswat169 Think about it like she totally deserved another opportunity, now she can be happy:)

For real. If you think about it, she's been in Homelander Hell the longest out of everyone there. Had to fake intimacy, and cover for him. Yeah, she needed that win.

BS. Butcher, Hughie and Starlight can kill him if they attack him 3 on 1. But Butcher is not going to take permanent V because it's going to turn him into a supe. Also, Soldier Boy is definitely gonna be awakened next season, and be loyal to Victoria Neumann, because she is gonna "save him".

@@user-wu2br7cs7i Heck no! Butcher, Hughie, and Starlight are weak af compared to homelander. The only people that can damage homelander are Maeve and Soldierboy and they're both out the picture. I like your theory on victoria neuman tho

@@FrostDK98 I meant if they take Compound V instead of temporary one, and if they have some sort of plan how to take him down. Also, this episode showed that Starlight is not that weak as you think she is, and i think if the environment is good enough, she can fly as fast and high as Homelander.

@@user-wu2br7cs7i stop making shit up. No one in the boys can beat homelanded, even together. In the comics they needed a clone of homelander(black noir) to beat him. And starlight cannot fly as fast as homelander… stop lying to yourself and read the comics. Even in the show the only person close to homelander is solider boy and even he can’t beat homelander without that nuclear blast.

@@wayofwoe comics is a whole different story. For an example, in the comics Soldier Boy is a weak coward who don't have any genetical ties to Homelander. In the show, Black Noir is not a clone, and he is dead, so in the end of the show they are gonna need to beat him without any help. Also, "Homelander is invincible" is such bullshit, in the show he can be bruised with just a punch by a regular supe (Queen Maeve), he can be mind controlled, he can lose his powers by a russian superweapon, his eardrum can be pierced, which means even someone like Gunpowder can blow his brains out with a sniper rifle strong enough, Butcher's eye laser is as strong as his one, and Butch is not even a proper supe. Even in the comics Queen Maeve almost sliced his nose in half! Only thing that stopped her was that she used a movie prop instead of a normal sharp sword.

exactly. it goes back to what Hughie was saying about how he was never able to see how much his dad was protecting him until much later. the problem is that Ryan is too young to understand the nuance of "Butcher shows his love in a different way" the way Hughie can as an adult. the writing in this show is just *chef's kiss*

Does Ryan know how he was conceived? I mean Becca was married to Butcher, Homelander impregnated Becca and Becca disappeared for seven years. It seems all of Homelanders relationships only existed because the women were afraid of him. Coercion isnt consent.

@@jeringatai3156 yeah if Ryan learns he was conceived through rape, he might turn against HL

@@jeringatai3156 i dont think Ryan knows but ultimately HL loves his kid. Becca isnt here to tell Ryan anymore

Plus if Ryan where to have an arc where he eventually has to fight his dad. It be way better now that Ryan has someone who can train him to use his powers. I mean he can fly now use his beams more contlably. Having a trainer vs learning through trial and error like honelander, could make all the difference.

@@jeringatai3156 was it coercion? I Started watching in season 3 According to HL and Becca's reaction Becca was willing like a superhero groupie

I'm pretty sure Noir ain't dead. He survived literally losing a piece of his brain, he's been missing half his skull for decades and is fine. He is as close to immortal as you can really get without a healing factor. I don't think a hole in his chest is gunna kill him. I feel like they are going to rediscover him in a lab next season

@@LiilYogurt I really hope so. He was one of my favorite characters and them taking the time to delve into his backstory and just kill him off has me conflicted. But I hope you're right 😭

I agree bro felt the same way , why introduce the idea of soilder boy to be the dad if to put him on ice the next episode

@@lordofslugs2700 Exactly like wtf 😒

I liked what they are building up to next season but the episode itself was just okay. The finale scene with Homelander and Ryan was utterly fucked in a good way.

HL definitely values/valued Noir seemingly not just as an ally but as a friend in a weird way. I'd even say it feels like Noir seemed okay with him too! I think Noir has much more to his story but I wouldn't be mad if they perma killed him, that would raise the stakes even higher. A character like Noir can be perma killed? That's HELLA crazy and would make me believe next season, one of the Boys could permanently die too.

I don’t think that’s how it works in the show if they cut off his head he dies . Still show still follows some real world biology

What if now they introduce homelander's clone black noir

Well he pulled his heart out. He kept it, he didn't throw it down. We also didn't hear a heart beat...so I'm think Black Noir was being punished.

@@chrischika7026 We don't see his head actually come off and everyone thought A-Train was dead after episode 6. No way he's dead. I think Homelander values him too much, no way he'd kill the only guy in 7 that he can count on, especially after he found out Noir was right and Soldier Boy was terrible

There is literally no reason why HL hasn't killed everyone of the boys. They have no leverage to keep themselves alive.

Once they knew Ryan was going to be on Soldier Boy's shit-list, the gig was up.

@@johnnymittle was he tho? That was merely a push and he focused on Homelander

@@cooljo5881 During the time where Butcher stops SB as he is about to blast Homelander and Ryan, I dont get why Butcher didn't just sprint to grab Ryan and get him out of the way instead of attacking Soldier Boy. I mean Butcher is already clearly fine with dying as long as it means killing HL (as long as Ryan or Hughie don't get hurt in the process), so sacrificing himself to save Ryan and get rid of HL would have made the most sense for his character. The show is still incredible don't get me wrong, but this episode felt like 'we can't have Butcher or HL die as they carry the show, so we will have to write around it' more than it ever had before. The plot-armor affected the character's decision making in the finale more than most episodes

​@@moneykenny119 Grab Ryan out of the way with Homelander right there? not gonna happen mate. There was no time to argue and he had to make a decision in seconds. He made the right call. Maeve on the other hand let her emotions cloud her judgement although even if she got Ryan out of there, he can just fly back if he wants to, nothing Maeve can do about it so she might as well try to get her revenge.

Skin is like the weakest part of your body his bones are prob multiple times stronger

It's both. The only real action we've seen from Maeve is tanking an armored truck in the first episode of the series. Since then she's been portrayed as a heavy alcoholic dealing with a lot of crap. We've never really seen her at her strongest. At the same time, Homelander has really only been lasering things and we've never seen him really fight until this season. He's horrible at hand to hand combat and it's consistent with his character in the source material. Also, the inner ear is probably more susceptible to piercing than regular skin.

Both are true, Homelander saving butcher from that explosion had everybody thinking he was as fast if not faster than A-train but in his fights he never uses super speed (you can call this a plot hole) but he looks the same speed as his opponents (Maeve even looked faster than him) Maeve on the other hand always made it seem like homelander was unstoppable but then here she is almost taking him out on her own 😂

Except it doesn't pierce his skin... It goes into his ear

I wonder if it's more to do with Maeve never truly reaching her potential before. She was deeply depressed, engaging in self-destructive behaviour like heavy-drinking and casual sex, instead of training her body. At her peak, she's actually capable of wounding him, and maybe seeing him with that bruise gave her the confidence to try.

Still a big difference between Maeve and Homelander strength wise. He wasn't even trying against Maeve and also Maeve was training for months whereas Homelander doesn't train at all.

Looking at the bigger picture, Temp V was nothing but a campaign bait to encourage Singer going forth with the presidential campaign plus Singer's platform emphasizes on military and defense. With Neuman under Singer's wing and clearly setting her up to be President, making her a puppet for Vought to takeover the USA and the world

If you want to earn money selling sups to the military. You don't want to give them permanent one. Keeps the money flowing.

@@gaurangshukla8235 It really is just a Vought super hero subscription service

It's only been 24 episodes. They are in no danger of dragging it for at least 2 seasons.

With the white house being the next target for the boys, it's clear they're going to do a similar run as the comics (with obvious retcons), which means they're more than likely going to end it on season 5. It would take more than 8 episodes to conclude what's about to happen.

@@OogaBoogaBooga6969 my guess is next season will focus on the white house and all that stuff, and by the end of the season Ryan will die or turn against him and he'll lose the respect of his followers and in season 5 we will finally see a completely unhinged Homelander holding nothing back

This season was honestly all over the place. The fight between Homelander, Butcher, and Soldier boy in the middle of the season was the only real good thing. Characters like MM degraded into being emotionally disturbed, Frenchie had a whole backstory semi-retconned in just to give him something to do, etc. They nerfed Homelander super hard to make things work. How is it that now Mauve can knock him around and a small metal object can penetrate his ears? If Mauve can knock blood out of his nose, why didn't they just have a group of supes team up and take him out? Suddenly every other supe can hurt him. The writing was ass.

@@ndt7379 The thing with Maeve is that everyone was too afraid to fight Homelander. We’ve never had any indication of his durability because he’d never been in a real fight. And his ears are a known weak point considering season 2’s sound machine plan.

They really needed to telegraph that better.

@@davididiart5934 i just think her character shoulda been a little more fleshed out so we would recognize her more easily

@@Frostylongcat This, yeah.

To be fair this is literally the first time we've seen her not in a dark room lit only by a screen.

True man.They could easily took Ryan away and SB would have listened to them.Because,he is not insane like HL…It’s really bad writing from the writer

It was not a great finale lmao

@@Lazypackmule Well I already said I was underwhelmed. Only reason I think it's still good is because it sets up a lot for next season.

@@Lazypackmule the fact that 44% of the ratings are 10/10 on IMDb says it all. People just love this show no matter what for some reason. I think it's a 7.5/10 at most

@@Lazypackmule it was great, people are forgetting there's 2 more seasons. There's isn't gonna be a huge ass battle now

@@captainkritikal1453 That's no excuse for garbage storytelling, character writing, and nonsensical hypocritical messaging

How about both?? Actually, homelander could be a really good father ngl and also if you think homelander's a monster,watch diabolical ep 8,if you don't feel sorry for him after seeing that then I don't know what to tell you.

i wonder if it will be a luke skywalker return of the jedi situation where Ryan's moral compass turns Homelander good. But that's extremely wishful thinking because Homelander is a psycho and Ryan seems to be going down psycho lane now too.

@@aaditkhan728 Homelander is a character with dimension, but yes he is a monster: he’s the Vought’s monster but the reverse of Frankenstein’s monster… the glamor, image, and adoration reinforce his horrifying behavior

if she wasn't busy beating ass to the beat, Frenchie wouldn't have gotten shot...

Kimiko"s scene was disturbing. She literally spent the last two season hating how she was nothing but a weapon that was used by both the Sun's and Butcher to kill people. Now she his killing guys who she can easily subdue while gleefully moving to music. It's completely tone deaf.

I agree he has been absolutely phenomenal as homelander. His version of homelander in the show has a lot more depth than the comic version ever had

I mean I get what you are saying, but I just don't think butcher would be ok with taking the risk of losing Ryan with the only basis for doing so being, surely Ryan will survive.

If Ryan's head can get cut open from being shoved that beam would have obliterated him

@@marveling8927 yeah but he's the 3rd strongest person in that room, if Kimiko survived so would he why didn't Maeve try to stop Butcher from interfering?

@@davidnobre5660 I would say Butcher does not know that. If that's true about Ryan's power level than it might make sense to us the viewers but not not to Butch in that moment. The Maeve part I dunno, shock I guess. People do dumb things in dire situations but I mean it's a kid and she's wanting to be a hero deep down so she may have been conflicted herself.

@@davidnobre5660 3rd strongest? He got hit once by SB and went unconscious. Even Starlight who's closer to mid on the durability scale took more of a beating and still got up. If SB did the explosion that he did at the end with Maeve, he probably would have killed Ryan, and if not. He would be powerless in a collapsing skyscraper

They look similar and we haven't seen them enough.

@@Nekotaku_TV But they don't at all. Unless you think every person with dark hair looks "similar."

"if Maeve survives the blast then so would Ryan" but butcher didn't know that until later, he thinks that the blast would've killed Ryan in that moment.

Ryan was injured by a shield bash, he is clearly not as durable yet. But with homelander shielding him, I could see him surviving. The problem being, Butcher doesn’t know if homelander values himself over his son or the other way around.

Thats the reason why I think Noir has a slim chance to still be alive. They just gave him a backstory and made him interesting just to kill him one episode later? I think they will go the comic route and make him more of a homelander clone because his healing factor is even stronger than Kimikos. They definitely painted it to look like he died so I would not be suprised if he actually was killed off

@@fxrdo bro what they’re definitely not gon make him a home lander clone I just think his power is immortality and will comeback but not as a homelander clone that’s just stupid

@@OK-ce8cn that’s literally what he is in the comics

I agree. Soldier Boy will definitely return, at least for 1 more season. I also think they bring back noir as his story isn't finished yet, unless they chose to go the tragic character route where they just die without being able to end their own story

We’ll definitely see soldier boy again. If they were done with him they would’ve just killed him off but they didn’t so he’ll definitely wake up and come back somehow

Well Noir is not dead tho. Edgar's contingency was Noir and he simply wouldn't have a dumb ninja as the solution for Homelander. When Edgar comes back, he will unleash zombie-like Noir that will go on a rampage similar to the comics version.

@@kavinsuresh5468 I mean, Noir was a clone in the comics as well right? So I don’t know how accurate they’ll follow them, plus there’s already been like 6 fakeout deaths this season. Also the helmet kinda makes it final in my eyes, but we’ll see, hope you’re right

It's a common trope for a character to be killed off after some emotional scenes with them

@@pamoweiberezi5315 I mean... I have watched... a show before lol. So yeah it is common for a character to die in an emotional way

@@FlynnTheRedhead I just saying that his death was inevitable,we just didn't expect homelander to be the one to kill him

They also established in season 2 that Vought has been working stabilizing the permanent V so that adults can take it safely and it will consistently produce "a solid supe, solid powers, everytime." [quoting Lamplighter]

Ye because he stumbles snout to Butcher after he blacked out asking what happened. So it must drain his energy for a while.

I really liked the season but this episode was kinda of a let down . Still great compared to other shows but not great for the boys if you know what I mean

Tbh I'm not even a supporter of the right wing but I feel like it's pushing that too much. I understand it's a superhero show tho

@@calebjones960 pushing what too much ?

@@theredoctopus3196 tbh trump or even homelander wouldn't get away with just murder in the streets, but I know it's a show lol

@@calebjones960 what?? Lol

She most likely did but they won’t talk about it

Maybe the river?

She used Soldier Boy as a cushion ala Austin Powers?

kumiko's power relies on her physical strength and regenerative abilities. She doesn't seem to be very tough apart from that. Maeve is practically Wonder Woman. I have little trouble believing that it took more than the few seconds you would be falling that distance for her powers to leave her, and that her toughness kept her from being more severely injured.

Let’s not so sure he’s dead yet

He ain't dead lol

Honestly, this was probably the most unrealistic part of the show. No matter your beliefs, people would not cheer after watching someone being murdered in cold blood without warning unless they experience that kind of trauma on a regular basis. It just isn't conceivable.

@@nojatha4637 On the contrary, I think the ending was brilliant because it finally showed us that after constant lies, abuse, and death involving the superhero community for decades on end, society has finally cracked. Vought has completely broken the majority of the people they claim to protect. Just like they did to Homelander.

@@daunterobertson6459 In that universe, the information about death and abuse was only recently introduced to the public. And even then, it was only talked about. Nobody actually saw that stuff take place. Society would act and think just like us if they saw what Homelander did.

Homelander looked astonished and relieved when they started cheering. I feel that guy who started cheering first is gonna fuck up MM. a weak man who worships Homelander will crave power and will fuck over MM if he gets it.

@@nojatha4637 I think they would, especially since MM made him feel small and weak.(guy who started cheering first)

Agreed. It’s back where it was at the beginning of the season hardly anything has changed.. This “finale” felt more like filler. Except for noir that sucked

Well, I don't know: three out of five of the seven are gone, Neuman became VP, Homelander basically outed himself as the psycopath he is and people cheered, Ryan gone bad, Butcher is dying and Starlight became member of The Boys.... basically for the world everything changed more than in the second season, where mostly of the changements were hidden. Its seems like you think, just because Soldier Boy's storyline just raised and died without any big impact, or at least not the impact we expected. His storylines just remarked about father figures and pushed Butcher into bretray his very own purpose (to kill Homelander) to save Ryan - stating that Ryan can in fact be his only chance to the humanity against his rage - and pushed Homelander towards his humanity again, making him choose Ryan over killing Butcher and everybody, giving him a new little hope (who will be crushed probabily at the end of season 4).

Yeah extremely disappointing finale that made 1-7 a lot worse, 1-7 was great until the finale.

Weakest season.

The character motivations felt really weird. Like I get Butcher protecting Ryan. But it was weird that he kept fighting Soldier Boy. Like there were definitely some gaps in the fighting where he could've focused on getting Ryan out of the way so Soldier Boy could do his thing. It seems like after the initial save Ryan part, they forget Homelander is the bigger threat. Like they know SB can be dropped with the nerve agent. But other than SB, they have no way of touching Homelander. The focus of the main threat was off. Also, the nerve agent side quest was weird. It seemed like just needed something for frenchie and kimiko to do, so they wrote in having to get the nerve agent again. I don't hate the finale, but it's definitely the weakest yet. Also, Noir better be a fake out. I don't want him dead, but if you're gonna kill him. It gotta be a better than that. A single hole in the stomach after all the shit he's healed from. Homelander needed to rip him in half, vertically, if he's actually dead that would've been more believable. Really hoping he comes back.

Kimiko survived a full blast so did love sausage and other Supes. If Maeve had healing powers then it makes sense she survived. She can also jump really high so that fall wouldve been nothing to her.

@@jeringatai3156 Kimiko survived a blast that broke a wall lol. Maeve survived a massive explosion. That's fine though, Maeve is way more durable than Kimiko. The only real bs is de-powered Maeve then surviving the fall to the ground from that massive height. She didn't have her powers after the explosion so the fall should have killed her.

They both kind of have forgettable faces tbf

The dude fucked an asteroid in the comics. He exploded it before it hit the Earth. That's fucking weird.

Yes you can.

Hes with c-c-c-christ the lord now