*The Breakfast Club* is not about BREAKFAST!?? | First Time Watching!

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Hi everyone!!
Here's The Breakfast Club, I originally never really gave much thought to watching it before. And I've only recently had friends telling me how good it was and that was that. I knew it was deemed a classic and a pop culture icon - but NOW i actually know why. It didn't hit me until after it ended WHY The Breakfast Club was so good and it really just did a great job representing of that part of your life when you're growing into who you're meant to be and all of the stressors/influences impacting the direction in which you grow.
It hit pretty close to home and I enjoyed it, a LOT (as you're about to tell LOL)
Enjoy friendos!! :)
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Original Movie: The Breakfast Club (1985)

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@Liam_Mellon
@Liam_Mellon 2 жыл бұрын
“High Schoolers are not that emotional.” Are you sure you actually went to high school?
@lolmao500
@lolmao500 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah all those school shooters in the US are sure not emotional... lol
@WallyHartshorn
@WallyHartshorn 2 жыл бұрын
As the parent of a high schooler, I can confirm that they definitely can get that emotional!
@ajclements4627
@ajclements4627 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who graduated from HS, I can confirm we were that emotional.
@PatchTM983
@PatchTM983 2 жыл бұрын
was just about to say this lmao
@carpetfluff35
@carpetfluff35 2 жыл бұрын
I think for most teens just day to day living is focused on their emotions above and beyond anything else.
@zmarko
@zmarko 2 жыл бұрын
Vkunia: "Is this what high school was like then?" Me: pretty much
@Theaquaponic12345678
@Theaquaponic12345678 2 жыл бұрын
Ummmm yeah! Being a Freshman when this came out, this was TOTALLY relevant.
@Spottedfeather
@Spottedfeather 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, basically. Maybe not QUITE this exaggerated, but it's not far off...
@apulrang
@apulrang 2 жыл бұрын
It’s heightened of course, but not far off what high school was like back then. The main thing I’ve noticed with reactors is that there are things these kids do and say that were against the rules back then, but not quite as out of bounds or beyond the pale as they are now. Most notable probably is Bender’s treatment of Claire, but also how openly and bluntly Vernon abuses Bender. I’m sure that kind of profiling goes on still, but it’s probably a bit more subtle and papered over with a bunch of euphemistic language.
@andrewcharles459
@andrewcharles459 2 жыл бұрын
You mean it's not like that now? How sad.
@GangstaStan010
@GangstaStan010 2 жыл бұрын
@@apulrang Yeah man. Our Principal was a damn Bounty Hunter. Leaving school didn't mean she wouldn't drag you back Literally sometimes. These kids just don't know. lol
@epicmage82
@epicmage82 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who was in school in the 80s and 90s, this is pretty accurate. The clicks, the stereotyping from teachers. I was a social chameleon in school. Fade into the background of any group, and be ignored. It was just easier than getting beaten up for being yourself. So the stereotypes reinforce themselves back then. As a result I was on the edges of all the clicks. All of their problems in this movie are pretty common. I would say the interaction between the groups were more hostile though. At least where I went to school.
@endless013
@endless013 2 жыл бұрын
it was slightly different for me, I was a Bender pretty much the whole time attitude wise. For a while I tried to dress in the corduroys and button ups so I'd look like something better than I was but the thing about a small town is everyone knew I was "the poor" so I got bullied the entire time until I got shipped off to my current city. I didn't really notice the groups until middle school in the new city where no one knew who I was then I was a social chameleon and could go hold up a wall and be ignored then high school happened and I went all out I never had interest in college so I had 4 years to find myself and it was a hell of a fun trip and I'll never find a group of Party boi psycho's and introverts that all rallied around liking the same music again.
@epicmage82
@epicmage82 2 жыл бұрын
@@endless013 I grew up in a small town too. In Iowa. Also very poor. I got bullied pretty hard until I learned to blend into the background.
@MichaelWilliams-fm9mw
@MichaelWilliams-fm9mw 2 жыл бұрын
Agree %100.
@endless013
@endless013 2 жыл бұрын
@@epicmage82 I went the other way, I learned how to knock heads and make them stop. Too bad no one told me there's always someone eager to fill the power vacuum which means one bully out one bully in a few months later.
@epicmage82
@epicmage82 2 жыл бұрын
@@endless013 unfortunately
@Andrew_Thannen
@Andrew_Thannen 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: This film was shot in chronological order, and it was filmed in the same high school as John Hughes' next film, Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Highly recommend Ferris Bueller, by the way.
@treadstone1138
@treadstone1138 2 жыл бұрын
Except that the "library" was actually the constructed in the gym as the actual library was way too small.
@deadeye4520
@deadeye4520 2 жыл бұрын
I love Sixteen Candles. It's more light-hearted, but lots of fun none the less.
@zedwpd
@zedwpd 2 жыл бұрын
@@treadstone1138 Yep at Maine North HS
@jasonschuler2256
@jasonschuler2256 2 жыл бұрын
@@deadeye4520 Sixteen Candles has aged _reeeally_ poorly. It's not as timeless as some of John Hughes' other movies.
@gspendlove
@gspendlove 2 жыл бұрын
Which raises the question: Do John, Claire, Andy, Brian and Alison go to school with Ferris Bueller, Cameron, Sloane and Jeannie?
@danielbautista9062
@danielbautista9062 2 жыл бұрын
Bender got detention because he wanted to get away from his abusive father. Which is why he wants more detentions as in more Saturday detentions.
@junkyard014
@junkyard014 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, I never thought of that but now it makes sense.
@Tigermania
@Tigermania 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought that he wanted more detentions to prove he would not give in to authority. Your reasoning is a whole lot darker, but probably right.
@brauliob
@brauliob 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tigermania I agree. If Bender really was trying to get away, he wouldn't have looked upset that his defiance kept giving him more detention. The actor, Judd, did an excellent job with his expressions.
@LA_HA
@LA_HA 2 жыл бұрын
That's a fan theory but, I dunno. It just doesn't hold up. Why try to get detention if you could go anywhere and do anything? He had friends and even girls who he could hang out with for a while. Or just go chill by himself, get a job to make money, or go to the movies. Back then, you could sit in the theater all day. As long as you didn't go to another theater, no one cared. So, getting in trouble just to get away from home isn't necessary. Being sad, troubled, intelligent, and observant made Bender hide his insecurities behind being hardheaded with the 3 teenager Bigs: a big mouth, a big chip on his shoulder, and a big attitude. This makes him complex. But, that's why Bender is such a good character. haha That's my take anyway. haha
@wantutosigh1117
@wantutosigh1117 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't agree. He has plenty of friends to hang out with. That's where he would go. He agreed to all those detentions to not give in to the bullying by the teacher. He'd rather give up his saturdays then let Vernon win.
@BeagleFeatures
@BeagleFeatures 2 жыл бұрын
“I miss being a teenager” To be fair, you still look like you could be a teenager
@tempsitch5632
@tempsitch5632 2 жыл бұрын
She misses something that existed like three hours ago ?
@jeffburnham6611
@jeffburnham6611 2 жыл бұрын
@@tempsitch5632 she can't be more than 22 or 23 yrs old, so I'm sure the memories of High School aren't that full of cobwebs yet (I think she just graduated from college).
@clasicradiolover
@clasicradiolover 2 жыл бұрын
You beat me to this comment.
@1ListerofSmeg
@1ListerofSmeg 2 жыл бұрын
Sure..You know 🤔😏 That wicked rush of nostalgia that you feel for... 5 years ago.🤯😋
@clasicradiolover
@clasicradiolover 2 жыл бұрын
@@1ListerofSmeg How are Arnold, Kryten and The Kat
@Sara_Feingold
@Sara_Feingold 2 жыл бұрын
Love how quickly you went from "I don't care about any of these people" to "This is so cute, I wish I was in high school again!" XD
@arandomnamegoeshere
@arandomnamegoeshere 2 жыл бұрын
One Monday, I get on to the bus headed for school. And the "cool kids" at the back of the bus call me back - they want me to sit with them. I'm thinking somethings up but why not spring the trap instead of refusing the play and sitting there waiting for the sword to drop? So I cautiously pop down next to one of the cool girls. Turns out, this movie was on HBO and several of them watched it over the weekend. They were going to make a change. I ended up with new friends through most of highschool.
@erictaylor5877
@erictaylor5877 2 жыл бұрын
That is amazing 😊. A good friend of mine hates this movie because he says it would never happen in real life. It's nice to know that it did for you and the movie touched people enough to do something different.
@tim_davidson6344
@tim_davidson6344 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who went to high school in the early '80s I can confirm that the "cool kids" do sit in the back of the bus.
@gloriebluestein9721
@gloriebluestein9721 2 жыл бұрын
@@tim_davidson6344 my story ended with one of the boys getting banned from the bus. *cough* 8th grade
@robertmolton6761
@robertmolton6761 2 жыл бұрын
I've always said this movie should be required viewing in all high schools for this very reason. It makes you look at other people's points of view in an entertaining way.
@RyoHazuki224
@RyoHazuki224 2 жыл бұрын
@@erictaylor5877 Yeah, its hard to fathom that people from different walks of life in high school would really find common ground and become closer. Maybe not lifelong friends, but it might show them that other people are not that different after all, they just come from different situations that molded their personalities differently. Now, it would be rare for just random cliques of high-schoolers to really come together like this. But, in situations where they may be forced to be together, its very possible that they do see that commonality. I mean, we're all still human. Its also a good life lesson, that even as we age whenever we see people from different walks of life, we are all still humans and can find commonality with that. They might be a rich person, or a homeless person, or someone from a different religion or different country. But, we're all just people.
@jaknazryth2488
@jaknazryth2488 2 жыл бұрын
I was in 11th grade when this came out. So if this movie affected you like this 36 years after it was released, imagine how it affected us in 1985. This was a massive cultural movie to us Gen-Xers. Thank you John Hughes for helping us get through High School!
@maul42
@maul42 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't taught HS for a few years, yeah, the kids are/were absolutely that emotional. We tend to just forget sometimes what we were going through at the time. Kids are raw bundles of emotions, they just don't' always know how to articulate them. Everything is still new and feels like the biggest problem/achievement they've ever had. Some bundle it all up, some explode out.
@speakstheobvious5769
@speakstheobvious5769 2 жыл бұрын
"Everything is still new and feels like the biggest problem/achievement they've ever had" Technically, whatever they are going through is the biggest problem/achievement they ever had for most of them.
@nitrokid
@nitrokid 2 жыл бұрын
HS was a lot of feelings. I was brokenhearted a lot, but I'm one of those who kept their feelings inside XD
@davidmugford8872
@davidmugford8872 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the teachers didn't help at all.
@timwaggoner6752
@timwaggoner6752 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting bit of info for you: the scene where they’re describing how they arrived in detention? Those stories were made up by the actors and the first time any of them heard them was during the filming
@thereturningshadow
@thereturningshadow 2 жыл бұрын
Also Anthony Micheal Hall's real mother and sister dropped him off.
@timwaggoner6752
@timwaggoner6752 2 жыл бұрын
@@thereturningshadow That too
@zedwpd
@zedwpd 2 жыл бұрын
@@thereturningshadow Damn, I just wrote that and you beat me by 12 hours.
@GrumpyOldGuyPlaysGames
@GrumpyOldGuyPlaysGames 2 жыл бұрын
According to John Hughes, there was a single exception to this. And none of them have ever admitted which story was pre-determined. (My personal guess is Bender.)
@OriginalPuro
@OriginalPuro 2 жыл бұрын
"An interesting bit of info for you: the scene where they’re describing how they arrived in detention?" That is a very strange question.
@LordVolkov
@LordVolkov 2 жыл бұрын
I had a huge crush on Ally Sheedy as a kid. She's so great in this movie. Definitely check her out in Short Circuit.
@elzar760
@elzar760 2 жыл бұрын
No disassemble.
@elzar760
@elzar760 2 жыл бұрын
Stephanie!
@glasgowjohn7831
@glasgowjohn7831 2 жыл бұрын
she was more cute in wargames
@lordmortarius538
@lordmortarius538 2 жыл бұрын
IIIIIINPUUUUUUT!!
@PrincessSnowbelle
@PrincessSnowbelle 2 жыл бұрын
Omg, yes! Watch Short Circuit!!!!
@themidsouthcyclist8880
@themidsouthcyclist8880 2 жыл бұрын
This came out when I was in High School, and yes: it is totally accurate. John Hughes knew exactly how to capture the feelings and emotions of that age group with his movies. Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Sixteen Candles, Pretty in Pink, Weird Science (a stretch, but....) are all perfect examples of this very special touch he had.
@kevinhankins8217
@kevinhankins8217 2 жыл бұрын
To make it all the way to the end of the movie and ask - “Why didn’t they have breakfast?” Absolutely killed me hahahahahaha
@scipioafricanus5871
@scipioafricanus5871 2 жыл бұрын
Tbf one had a cap 'n' crunch burger.
@2wingo
@2wingo 2 жыл бұрын
Most people miss the point of the makeover. Allison dresses darkly and acts weird, not as a way of expressing herself, but because she's an attention-seeker who doesn't want to admit to being one or acknowledge how lonely she is. The makeover is thus her way of saying that she wants attention and human interaction and is willing to accept it when it is given to her.
@Imfarias1
@Imfarias1 2 жыл бұрын
Me and my goth friends didn't "miss the point' so much as we were pissed at the misrepresentation. This re-enforced the idea that liking what we liked and dressing like we dressed was not self-expression, just attention whoring. In the end all you had to do was conform to "normal" beauty and everything would be better. Notice no one else had to change how they looked to make everything better.
@rigrmortis3393
@rigrmortis3393 2 жыл бұрын
@@Imfarias1 I think you really did miss the point of 2wingo's take because it seems far more likely. I never met a goth that gave a damn about what a classic movie had to say about their style, that was kind of the point. Every one I hung out with, goth or otherwise, if the mainstream didn't "get it" F'em. If you and your friends were pissed off because of a movie I have to question your story. Just my 2 cents. I would also like to say Ally Sheedy is really pushing the bounds of even being 'goth' by lumping in anybody wearing dark clothes. I just looked at her as the weird person most schools have without any real clique, like 2wingo. If dressing dark and frumpy while acting weird is goth I guess I am and never knew it.
@mattslupek7988
@mattslupek7988 Жыл бұрын
I agree. The makeover had nothing to do with impressing Andy like I’ve seen in comments before. This was her coming out of her shell. She didn’t have any friends or any real interaction with others. She was ignored by her parents and everyone else and craved the attention, hence dumping the contents of her purse onto the couch. Andy then asked what was wrong and what was going on with her home life and figured it had to do with her parents, thus finding out that they ignored her. He listened. He cared. He gave her the attention she wanted so badly. He said, “I can see your face. That’s good.”
@paulobrien9572
@paulobrien9572 2 жыл бұрын
The mature looking student, football player is Emilio Estevez son of Actor Martin Sheen and brother of Charlie Sheen. Emilio kept the real family name. Having graduated in 83 I can totally relate to these characters. Another movie which would more represent your current age Vicki is St Elmo's Fire. It's a good look at the yuppy generation of the 80's
@OneEyedJack1970
@OneEyedJack1970 2 жыл бұрын
St. Elmo's Fire is the quintessential Brat Pack movie. It was kind of a flop at the box office, but it gained a following over the years. I'd recommend it.
@paulobrien9572
@paulobrien9572 2 жыл бұрын
@@OneEyedJack1970 I agree I chose not to use Brat Pack because was anyone under 30 probably wouldn't understand the reference
@LA_HA
@LA_HA 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulobrien9572 They can learn. This is the correct reference, after all. So, use it, OneEyedJack1970. Use the term Brat Pack like the Wind. haha
@treetopjones737
@treetopjones737 2 жыл бұрын
St Elmo's: "Oh it's so hard being from a rich family." SMH
@LA_HA
@LA_HA 2 жыл бұрын
@@treetopjones737 It could be
@gorrammudder1600
@gorrammudder1600 2 жыл бұрын
One of my new favorite passtimes is watching reactors find out where cultural references come from. When I watched Episode III with my daughter every 5 minutes she was like "Thats a meme!, Thats a meme!" Its almost as good as watching the movie for the first time. Great content Vicky.
@markhamstra1083
@markhamstra1083 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a certain college student I knew who wasn’t sure that Shakespeare was really as good of a writer as people kept telling her he was because he relied so heavily on cliches.
@LA_HA
@LA_HA 2 жыл бұрын
@@markhamstra1083 That hurt my heart And my head. But, at least your friend knows who Shakespeare is. haha
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 2 жыл бұрын
I personally find it sad that the younger generations relate everything to bloody memes. It's like, we had culture, and they have tiny out-of-context cultural references. I'm so glad I was a kid then and not now.
@LA_HA
@LA_HA 2 жыл бұрын
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Hell to the ye
@phila3884
@phila3884 2 жыл бұрын
It took a while to get used to younger generations refrerring to memes for their cultural knowledge, but I can't blame them.
@stevenwright6573
@stevenwright6573 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 50. Graduated in 1989. This was my generation. This movie moves me every time. Brings tears to my eyes when they all open up and confide thier insecurities. Thier losing of innocence, hope changed into fear and disillusionment. The times when every tomorrow was filled with expectation and endless dreams. Timeless classic.
@lihaniska87
@lihaniska87 2 жыл бұрын
You said it bro,Im 35year old and i miss my preteeen/teenage times,Shooting bb-guns and doing all kinda Fun staff with Friens
@iamredoctober
@iamredoctober 2 жыл бұрын
I was a teen of the 1980s and I can only speak for myself, but a few authority figures in high school were not that far off from this film. The things that they did when I was a teen would never fly today. That's just my experience.
@RC-nv4bh
@RC-nv4bh 2 жыл бұрын
For reals, I remember lots teachers would slam books or papers on students desk because they did so poorly on some test, etc. In today’s school and even in a workplace that’s considered a threat
@iamredoctober
@iamredoctober 2 жыл бұрын
@Sean H It's amazing how much has changed in relatively little time.
@iamredoctober
@iamredoctober 2 жыл бұрын
@@RC-nv4bh Absolutely, and the system was complicit. Where I went to school you just took it. No one ever thought about reporting this kind of behavior to anyone.
@jeremyfrost2636
@jeremyfrost2636 2 жыл бұрын
Corporal punishment was legal in North Carolina schools back then. I got my ass beat by the principal several times.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
Teachers are much worse now, in every way except the physical violence.
@zedwpd
@zedwpd 2 жыл бұрын
Your watching this through Zoomer eyes. This is when I went to HS and is surprisingly more accurate than you think. Right down to being afraid of getting hit by an adult.
@shanehebert396
@shanehebert396 2 жыл бұрын
I graduated high school in '86. This movie (release in '85) is one of my favorites. I saw it when it was released and I've seen it many, many, many times since.
@jonathanhill4366
@jonathanhill4366 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@Steve_Blackwood
@Steve_Blackwood 2 жыл бұрын
That was a good year to graduate 😉
@thereturningshadow
@thereturningshadow 2 жыл бұрын
Vicky, You keep forgetting that this is the MID 80s. NOT the 2010s. People acted differently in school back then.
@ivanholguin164
@ivanholguin164 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right! The world was a completely different place back in the 80's and 90's than what it is now. Everyone in a way is a product of the time they're born and raised in, which ultimately affects their behaviors and motivations.
@Pandaemoni
@Pandaemoni 2 жыл бұрын
I was in high school in the late 80s/early 90s and we used to curse all the time. There was the vernacular you used when dealing with teachers or other adults and you didn't curse then, but talking to friends and peers? We were like sailors.
@BlackavarWD
@BlackavarWD 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr? She's surprised teenagers drop f-bombs?
@SergioArellano-yd7ik
@SergioArellano-yd7ik 4 ай бұрын
Like all the adults that were shocked about the language in the Bad News Bears
@Eidlones
@Eidlones 2 жыл бұрын
Your image of high schoolers is incredibly perplexing to me. Like, high schoolers aren't that emotional? I have no idea how someone can have that opinion if they went to high school. Like, suicide is the second leading cause of deaths for teens. Also Bender comes from a home with an abusive father. He literally put cigarettes out on him. He has a very warped sense of his own self worth, and how he should behave. He attacks others to prevent himself from being hurt, putting up that wall to make himself appear strong. When he's in the closet, you can see that facade completely strip away, and he's just a scared boy, being threatened by someone that's supposed to be looking out for him. Also, he probly learned from his father that the way to "help" people, is to get in their face and insult them, belittle them. Force them to change by intimidation and power
@CaesiusX
@CaesiusX 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. When I heard her say that, I was like: 😳 Adolescence being one of the *most* emotional times in a person's life. 😱
@jonathanhill4366
@jonathanhill4366 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, but since she wasn’t traumatized in high school maybe it wasn’t that emotional for her. You guys should take it easy, this is a pop culture reaction channel not a policy debate. That understanding of how traumatic high school is for some people is not something you would be born understanding, but something that should come to a person over time.
@CaesiusX
@CaesiusX 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanhill4366 What does it matter, as long as we're both having a civil discussion amongst ourselves? Adolescence being an emotional time is not exclusive to high school. Which is why I didn't mention it. It's not even wholly experiential, but also physiological. Besides, I simply said it surprised me. And discussing the reaction _is_ kind of the point. There are nearly eight billion people on the planet, and 500 hours of video uploaded to KZfaq _every minute,_ resulting in over one billion hours of videos viewed every single day. These comments here (as with virtually *every* YT comment) are not only relatively _insignificant,_ but often quickly forgotten. Maybe have some ice cream instead. 🍨🍦 _Yummy!_ 😋
@jonathanhill4366
@jonathanhill4366 2 жыл бұрын
@@CaesiusX I was more reacting Eidlones original comment, but I looped you in because you validated her response. To me, it feels like saying I have no idea how someone can have that opinion if they went to high school is kind of an attack, albeit not a crazy one. My experience in high school, in the eighties, seems vastly different than my children’s experience, in the 2010s. Even though they attended the same school system that I did, the children seemed markedly less vicious than when I was in school, and the experience seemed less traumatic for them. So I do not find it that surprising that someone her age doesn’t seem to have the same perspective on the ‘high school experience’ as I do. I think it is understandable what she said, so I am pushing back on your two comments. I am accusing neither of you of being uncivil so I hope you don’t take it that way.
@Eidlones
@Eidlones 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanhill4366 I didn't mean it as an attack, it just really confused me. Not having the experience personally is understandable, but in a class of 3000, she didn't know at least a few people that had a rough time emotionally? Again, not attacking, just that concept is very foreign to me, and doesn't line up with every other experience I've heard from people. It just shocks me is all
@sean_mccadden
@sean_mccadden 2 жыл бұрын
Its in my head canon that Andrew Clark is actually Gordon Bombay and goes on to coach the Mighty Ducks after he graduates 😆
@lordmortarius538
@lordmortarius538 2 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely accurate for highschool in the 80's. I was a part of the nerd group in school, D&D, drawing starships from Star Trek all over my shit, reading all the time. Kids were much more emotional then because we didn't have social media to vent all over, and our parents were trying to push us to be what THEY envisioned us to be, so as to keep up appearances for society and such. I got into a fistfight with my dad when I was 15, I started it over something I honestly don't even remember now, and he laid me out flat in the middle of the road. Different times, Vee, different times. I also developed the biggest crush on Ally Sheedy after this movie :)
@jeremyfrost2636
@jeremyfrost2636 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone talks about Molly Ringwald, and deservedly so because she's hot, but thank you for helping me represent the Ally Sheedy fandom because I always preferred her.
@lordmortarius538
@lordmortarius538 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyfrost2636 I'll be honest, I never liked Molly's style. Ally Sheedy was definitely the hotter of the two to me, and in more of my favorite movies hehe
@fergalstackstreams
@fergalstackstreams 2 жыл бұрын
My clique was like the random clique. We had nerds, pyros, slackers, stoners, just about everything except jocks. Our interests overlapped just enough we somehow made it work.
@jeremyfrost2636
@jeremyfrost2636 2 жыл бұрын
@@lordmortarius538 Just out of curiosity, opinion on Phoebe Cates?
@lordmortarius538
@lordmortarius538 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyfrost2636 ehhhhh, she's ok. I liked Mia Sara a lot more
@krbkrbkrbkrbkrb
@krbkrbkrbkrbkrb 2 жыл бұрын
If you combine this movie with Fast Times you will have a complete and very accurate portrayal of American high schools in the 1980s.
@treetopjones737
@treetopjones737 2 жыл бұрын
The writer of "Fast Times," the movie "Almost Famous" is a dramatized version of his real life as a kid.
@centuryrox
@centuryrox 2 жыл бұрын
And if you want to see life in high school in the 70s, watch "Dazed and Confused". Although we never did any paddle hazing in my school, but the rest was extremely accurate.
@vovindequasahi
@vovindequasahi 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I looked at that teacher like, "fuck him!" Now as an adult I realize that he ALSO had to stay in detention in school and miss his weekend because of these kids. He's ALSO eating the crappy lunch. He's ALSO sitting there all day trying to keep those kids in line.
@wantutosigh1117
@wantutosigh1117 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't give him the right to abuse children.
@gspendlove
@gspendlove 2 жыл бұрын
@wantutosigh I'm sorry, but I don't agree. Speaking harshly to kids is not "abuse." And as for what he did to Bender, ooooooh, did Bender earn that. He needed a little schooling as to his proper place in the world, and what was going to happen to him if he didn't shape up. I've more or less kept up with most of my high school classmates over the years, and it's funny how the ones who acted like Bender are now working minimum wage jobs, or in prison, or dead. It's a goddamn shame, but they thought they were smarter than everybody else, and real life kicked their asses soundly.
@vovindequasahi
@vovindequasahi 2 жыл бұрын
@@gspendlove I agree. That wasn't abuse. The teacher provided Bender with a safe way of realizing that he wasn't all that. That would be much worse demonstrated on the street, with a guy with a gun. I think teachers should be given the rights to be rougher to kids.
@wantutosigh1117
@wantutosigh1117 2 жыл бұрын
@@vovindequasahi Vernon tries to get Bender to fight him, threatens him and tells him no one will believe him and then locks him in a basement room. Abuse. If you guys think Vernon is helping any of these kids out, your delusional. You guys are major sellouts in your older ages.
@vovindequasahi
@vovindequasahi 2 жыл бұрын
@@wantutosigh1117 You are a part of the new movement where everybody is a victim. In my day, a kid who acted up in school got the stick. Now kids can do whatever the hell they want, because nobody will oppose them. Bender being put in his place by an authority figure is EXACTLY what he needed. That's not abuse, that's Tough Love!
@unseenentity326
@unseenentity326 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's called The Breakfast Club because they had to be in detention at breakfast time.
@JedHead77
@JedHead77 2 жыл бұрын
Every teen needs to watch this.
@JakeToll37
@JakeToll37 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact for those who don't know: Brian's mother and sister are actually his real life mother and sister. Also his father in the end was played by John Hughes, the director.
@tristramcoffin926
@tristramcoffin926 2 жыл бұрын
Gen Xers: I know each one of these people Millennial VKunia: I don't relate to any of these people.
@jasonknight1085
@jasonknight1085 2 жыл бұрын
It's so cute how you don't even fully realize that smacking kids around in school was perfectly acceptable in many places in the late '70's and early '80's. The reason I say it's cute, is it's nice to see people who realize it's wrong because they never had to deal with it. You're right, he's backed into a lose/lose. That pretty much describes my last few years of school in the '80's, no matter what choice I'd have made, I'd have been screwed. It's a horrific and terrifying place to be, and the look on Judd Nelson's face in that scene captures it perfectly. The sad fact is that bullies -- or more appropriately psychopaths -- have the strange tendency to be drawn into positions of power. Paul Gleason delivered the performance of his life as the power drunk school authority, which is kind of pathetic if you think about how little real power someone with that dead-end job actually has. He even says it in his monologue "people think I'm a great guy". Narcissistic psychopaths can be smooth, slick, and personable. They're not the creepy guy in their parent's basement, they're the well dressed socialite. Thus why "American Psycho" is so on-point. This movie spoke to my generation because so many of us came from broken homes that PRETENDED not to be. Abusive parents, active promotion of sociopathic behaviors and beliefs... you can see it in the otherwise "normal" families sporto and the princess come from. Where if you even suggested there was something wrong with their home-life, the entire community would shout you down. They are both taught that "winning" is more important than being a decent person. Thus why Sporto's father isn't even upset with what the kid did, but that he got caught. Why? Sociopathic lack of empathy. He doesn't care about the kid that got hurt, and in that way he doesn't even care about his own kid. He cares about how it reflects on him. Even the bit about "jeopardizing his shot" is more about bragging rights of his kid being a sports star. It sure as hell has nothing to do with his actual future. The sad part is, the same mental abuse happens to Brian, "Well you FIND a way to study!". It's funny, in primary school I was so totally Brian. The smart kid who tried. After years of being made fun of for being smart, I up and stopped trying. Said "F*** you" to homework, "F*** you" to the abusive teachers, and even "F*** you" to my abusive classmates. By the time I got out of high school, I was Bender. As a society we are TAUGHT not to care about others. I've watched it first-hand. 40 years of narcissistic sociopathy being held up as a virtue, and empathy/compassion treated as a cardinal sin. It's not right, and it's why we waste too much of our lives trying to live up to other people's expectations. It's not healthy... and it's a good chunk of where the societal manure flood we're all wading through came from. Because as the message of this movie really says, we all have far more in common than the world would have us believe. On some level we're all the same. The sooner we embrace that, the sooner all our lives can be better. We often end up hating -- or at minimum shunning -- each-other because we're from a different clique, background, or social status. There are few things as evil as that.
@gpink5098
@gpink5098 2 жыл бұрын
Her: You can't hurt kids. 80's teens: Uhhhhh
@kryeton5713
@kryeton5713 2 жыл бұрын
...just a note...part of the point when Bender is confronted by Mr Vernon is that its the same treatment he gets at home... I understand what you mean about missing high school..:D
@ivanw2080
@ivanw2080 2 жыл бұрын
VKunia: 8:10 "Is it weird that I lowkey miss homework?" Me: Nerd!
@yaburnt9754
@yaburnt9754 2 жыл бұрын
that movie defined my generation , i was 14 when this came out :)
@jasonsmith6795
@jasonsmith6795 2 жыл бұрын
I love how someone that graduated, in the last 5 or so years, reacts to this movie. How surprised you are at the events and "this isn't how teenagers act" hahaha. Yes. Yes it was. A completely different world. Probably for the better. but no, I don't know anyone that got high in the library. lol
@jeffreysmith236
@jeffreysmith236 2 жыл бұрын
no, the ones that got high would not be caught in the library.
@bryanobrien2726
@bryanobrien2726 2 жыл бұрын
"he has a mature face" He literally has his dad's well known face .
@magicbrownie1357
@magicbrownie1357 2 жыл бұрын
I went to high school in the midwest in the 70's and 80's. And no teacher ever went to prison then for smacking kids around. They probably got bonuses. Times have changed.
@openfor45
@openfor45 2 жыл бұрын
So very TRUE! We had an ex-military guy for a math teacher, He took NO bullshit in classroon, if you got out of line he came over and gave you the up/down treatment! Grab your long hair and pull you up out of your chair until you stood on your toes!!
@fionnmaccumhaill3257
@fionnmaccumhaill3257 2 жыл бұрын
@@openfor45 I had a teacher in fifth grade who would kick the chair out from underneath you if he caught you leaning back in your chair.
@jeremyfrost2636
@jeremyfrost2636 2 жыл бұрын
The principal at my school in North Carolina had a paddle in his office, and used it.
@treetopjones737
@treetopjones737 2 жыл бұрын
Backward red states. SMH
@treetopjones737
@treetopjones737 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking back to even elementary school in the 60's, that crap did not happen here in California.
@Givemetheboobies
@Givemetheboobies 2 жыл бұрын
I was never a fan of the makeover scene. Loved Ally Sheedy's look and aesthetic.
@davidconway6874
@davidconway6874 2 жыл бұрын
same.
@windsorkid7069
@windsorkid7069 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, her before look was better, nasty.
@bryanobrien2726
@bryanobrien2726 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest , a makeover would never change her for more than a fleeting moment . At home , she's still got the same problems , she's still got the same clothes , make up , hair and style . To walk around with a new preppie look would probably make her feel like a clown in costume .
@centuryrox
@centuryrox 2 жыл бұрын
That was just Claire's idea of what she should look like, coming from her point of view in the clique she's in.
@OriginalPuro
@OriginalPuro 2 жыл бұрын
"So I'm gonna be honest with you" Honest people don't have to specify when they're being honest.
@thegorn68
@thegorn68 2 жыл бұрын
I saw this in the theater when I was 17. Had ZERO idea or even notion that it would be a classic that was a "must see" 30+ years later. Such a trip!
@jeremyfrost2636
@jeremyfrost2636 2 жыл бұрын
Although on your homeworld, Gorn With The Wind is a much more popular movie.
@Tomhyde098
@Tomhyde098 2 жыл бұрын
I saw this movie when I was a freshman in high school and loved it and related to the other kids. Now I’m coming up on my 15 year high school reunion and recently rewatched it and related to Mr. Vernon. Every year that I get older the less and less I understand “the youth” and it’s just crazy how time flies by faster and faster
@fergalstackstreams
@fergalstackstreams 2 жыл бұрын
For a second I read that as "Mr. Venom."
@Tomhyde098
@Tomhyde098 2 жыл бұрын
@@fergalstackstreams You’re gonna be a turd in the wind of you don’t get your act together buster
@pacio49
@pacio49 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this in the mid 80's as a teenager, we didn't "pick" someone we "liked". We all identified with one of the stereotypes that most closely vibed with our assigned clique in the caste order. Everything from how you dressed, who you could date, what you wore, the music you liked... it all tallied up to who you got to sit with in the lunch room and pretty much determined the course of your high school life. Everyone conformed because to stand up to the system of cliques meant being a total social outcast. Even the pariahs wouldn't socialize with you. It is our reaction against the socially-defined roles and personal willingness to eventually 'check out' of mainstream culture which defined us as GenX, and this film is our anthem, because it was our coming-of-age where we all began to realize... maybe the way ahead in life, and society as a whole, was to embrace the Outcast role and NOT belong or fit into the expectations of others. It made the Boomers very upset with us because we rejected the roles they had fought to establish, and refused to be neatly organized or labeled. For the rest of our lives. "Two roads diverged in the wood, and I... I chose the one less traveled by. And that has made all the difference." If you want the book-end to this film, watch Dead Poets Society. Breakfast Club started our high school careers, Dead Poets Society ended our high school careers. And Ferris Bueller's Day Off was the midpoint (or Heathers if you were punk/goth). Those three films pretty much explain -why- we ended up this disjointed generation, yet still strangely cohesive all the same.
@bobroma
@bobroma 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. You pretty much summed it up. Can you imagine if we had social media or even the internet back then?
@iambecomepaul
@iambecomepaul 2 жыл бұрын
That’s MY generation (sadly). The common theme Hughes is going for is: we were pressed into roles (cosmetic and ultimately commercial) to the point we were unrecognizable even to ourselves. We felt alien and different though we ran in segregated groups of like-kind. We weren’t boomers: we were X. I think that’s what Hughes was going for.
@1938superman
@1938superman 2 жыл бұрын
It is amazing how differently this plays to people who didn't grow up in the 80s. Understandably so, but still.
@DogmaBeoulve
@DogmaBeoulve 2 жыл бұрын
Victoria, you've got to try walking like that some day - imagine how absolutely badass and powerful you'd feel, walking like Andrew.
@LA_HA
@LA_HA 2 жыл бұрын
You're trying to get her committed, aren't you? haha
@windsorkid7069
@windsorkid7069 2 жыл бұрын
@@LA_HA 🤣👍
@habitsrabbit
@habitsrabbit 2 жыл бұрын
@@LA_HA they'd get punched the hell up if they even tried to get near her. The walk is not only good at establishing dominance, but it's also a perfect defense mechanism.
@LA_HA
@LA_HA 2 жыл бұрын
@@habitsrabbit You do realize she can't establish dominance through a walk? She has to Be dominant. Plus, can't see her punching anyone. Haha. But, this was just a joke thread. It's all good. haha
@habitsrabbit
@habitsrabbit 2 жыл бұрын
@@LA_HA it was just a joke.. A joke ruined by basically deconstructing said joke..
@yaburnt9754
@yaburnt9754 2 жыл бұрын
we all miss being teenagers, especially in the 80's ;)
@Caseytify
@Caseytify 2 жыл бұрын
I don't miss it at all. Early 20s, that's something different... :)
@LA_HA
@LA_HA 2 жыл бұрын
Ya Burnt: There are likely millions that agree with you. haha
@yaburnt9754
@yaburnt9754 2 жыл бұрын
Agreement is good :)
@LA_HA
@LA_HA 2 жыл бұрын
@@yaburnt9754 Disagreement can be good, too. haha. It's just that I read and hear people say it all the time. The 90s, too. People talk about going back to the 90s quite a bit. Even people born After those time periods. I'd like to. haha
@yaburnt9754
@yaburnt9754 2 жыл бұрын
If we follow the usual cycle ,the 90's are next ;)
@thereturningshadow
@thereturningshadow 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Back when I was in college, graphic design degree, the school recruiter came into class and told our teacher about a recruitment banner she wanted. My teacher made it a contest in a way for extra credit. There were some requirements that a picture of the school was needed and the school contact information. Anything else was fair game. Well I won and we found out who the lazy people were. I was the only one to take the time and take a picture of the front of our school building. All the lazy people just went on google images and copied and pasted just random building from other locations (in different cities) of the university. Anyway, my concept also won because I used students from different departments as well as from my class of the school and posed them like the Breakfast Club poster. The recruiter liked it so much we scheduled a date to retake the photos and add more people and departments to the banner. We used the small auditorium for the shoot and I have to lay on the floor on my stomach with the camera on a small tripod to get the right angle for the shots. Months later the recruiter said she'd have to get a second one made because she used the banner so much the ends were fraying. Here is the banner with the recruiter: scontent.ftpa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.18172-8/219198_100192226734171_1573681_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=cdbe9c&_nc_ohc=DB2z-HOrcJIAX_401Xi&_nc_oc=AQkflE46lREW5gxiM1i2S3wke0FxFhae7Dz2H86djC1_vfKMIQtwQ0AKnyJLZrAcIiJat1ueRGkEvoHYHeCuMvKu&_nc_ht=scontent.ftpa1-1.fna&oh=6a8a80fc48fcd7f60e505a39a368eb23&oe=618560C9
@tempsitch5632
@tempsitch5632 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make the link bigger ?
@thereturningshadow
@thereturningshadow 2 жыл бұрын
@@tempsitch5632 Lol. Tell that to the internet and FASCISTbook.
@Metzwerg74
@Metzwerg74 2 жыл бұрын
if you look closely at the beginning you´ll see that carl, the janitor was once the honor student of the school
@Lueluekopter
@Lueluekopter 2 жыл бұрын
You should check out Wargames. A classic 80s movie starring Ally Sheedy (who played Allison in this movie)
@jowbloe3673
@jowbloe3673 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Also *Project X,* another Matthew Broderick movie.
@hgman3920
@hgman3920 2 жыл бұрын
Wargames offers a glimpse into the late-Cold War mentality that the world could end any time because some politician did something stupid. I know kids these days have their own pressures, but growing up under the threat of Mutually Assured Destruction is something the kids these days just can't comprehend
@inmyopinion_3672
@inmyopinion_3672 2 жыл бұрын
This was actually a pretty good representation of high school in the 80's. I graduated in '87 and this was spot on. I don't blame you for not relating. After about 1990 the America I knew ended and political correctness began.
@bobroma
@bobroma 2 жыл бұрын
Right? I was class of 88 and it was just so different of a time.
@angel-xi6ie
@angel-xi6ie 2 жыл бұрын
what does that have to do with the average high school experience? y’all will find any way…lol
@1nelsondj
@1nelsondj 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you liked it. The cast became known as the Brat Pack, they were in a lot of movies in the '80s, sometimes in pairs ("St. Elmo's Fire", "Blue City", "Sixteen Candles"). You may have seen Paul Gleason (Mr. Vernon) in "Die Hard". Anthony Michael Hall was on SNL I think, he was the douchebag in "Edward Scissorhands". Ally Sheedy's Allison was my favorite of the 5 and I think she's the best actor of the bunch. Emilio Estevez is the son of Martin Sheen, brother of Charlie Sheen. He starred in "Repo Man" a year before this, a film you NEED to react to.
@wardenm
@wardenm 2 жыл бұрын
Three... THOUSAND?! My graduating class was 52. It was the biggest the school had in YEARS, and ours was a combo of four towns/villages together. XD
@eklipseempire8807
@eklipseempire8807 2 жыл бұрын
I had to pause your video to address how emotional high school students can be. During my middle school and high school i was bullied and emotionally and physically tormented. When I wasn’t being bullied in school in the halls, lockers, library or lunch room i was being bullied on the bus. I had the unlucky fortune of living in the same neighborhood as 3 of my bullies and those weren’t all of them. High school is insanely emotional for people. You feel the pressure of the world and your hormones. I had pressures everywhere which eventually led to me bringing a loaded gun with three clips and i was eventually caught with said gun so nothing happened but make no mistake people can be this emotional
@OneEyedJack1970
@OneEyedJack1970 2 жыл бұрын
Brian's family had a boat, right? The flare gun was probably part of the emergency kit.
@tim_davidson6344
@tim_davidson6344 2 жыл бұрын
Right, you could buy a flare gun from a boating supply store.
@jonathanpickett3068
@jonathanpickett3068 2 жыл бұрын
How would Bender figure The Janitor had a boat for his son?
@BlackavarWD
@BlackavarWD 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanpickett3068 No part of that comment makes sense. Just thought you should know.
@jonathanpickett3068
@jonathanpickett3068 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlackavarWD did Bender even visit Brian's house to see if they had a boat to fish in? Basically it would all just be speculation of how he thinks Brian's family would live like.
@jonathanpickett3068
@jonathanpickett3068 2 жыл бұрын
Brian could have just bought a Flare gun from the sporting goods store, unless it came with a boat
@cyphus5
@cyphus5 2 жыл бұрын
I think this reaction just shows the sheer difference between Generation X, early Millennials, and these zoomers like Vkunia.
@31Mike
@31Mike 2 жыл бұрын
21:50 About two years ago, I watched this movie for the first time in probably 35 years. It didn't make me feel like I was back in High School, but it did transport me back to the 80's. The decade 80's was an awesome time. I entered 1980 being 10 (almost 11) years old and exited at 20, so my entire teen years were spent in the 80's. The 70's were great too, but my memories from the 70's are a little more 'fuzzy', at least up to about 1976 (when I was 7). 1977 was awesome, though. That's the year that Star Wars hit theaters!
@koelekahuna9370
@koelekahuna9370 Жыл бұрын
HS Life in the 80's was harsher, more grown up, more real life than in the 90's+.
@jhschmidMD4
@jhschmidMD4 2 жыл бұрын
Some things, I'm sure, are the same or similar to your experience, but this film represents a picture of a different time. I was just getting out of HS when this came out. It's pretty darn accurate to how things were.
@johnalden5821
@johnalden5821 2 жыл бұрын
Class of 82 here. Yeah, the 80s were a lot about conformity and how to respond to it. Or put another way, they were about authority and how to tell it to go screw itself. The Boomers were all growing up and getting mini-vans, greed was good, and I was just pissed off about most of it. Punk and alternative music were a good outlet, and so was a bit of teenage rebellion (within reason). I never wanted to hurt anyone, but I did want people to know I was not entirely going with the program.
@stathissdz2125
@stathissdz2125 2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting something horror-y since it's October but, then again, isn't growing up scary enough?
@joesanchez9811
@joesanchez9811 2 жыл бұрын
Saw this at the movies in the 80's as a high schooler when it came out, My friends and I proudly identified with the criminal stereotype and I had a girlfriend that was the basket case type. I love he 80's.
@tdrewman
@tdrewman 2 жыл бұрын
At one time I remember back in the early 90s this movie was required watching for a psych class at FSU
@coreyhendricks9490
@coreyhendricks9490 2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this movie on TNT back in the day and now l've have it on DVD and it's a classic 👍
@Outrider85
@Outrider85 2 жыл бұрын
Bender explains his abusive home life VKunia: He's so emotional and I fear him. Way to completely miss the point. This was honestly really annoying to watch as you sympathized with every character except the guy who gets literally beaten and burned by his father. No he's just awful because you didn't like him.
@JaigEyesStudios
@JaigEyesStudios 2 жыл бұрын
That's the problem. When someone who hasn't experienced or seen those type of social environment they don't have any comprehension which makes it hard for them to understand the complication that most people goes through (mostly outside of HS). It is, what it is.
@ivanholguin164
@ivanholguin164 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I thought the exact same thing! I mean her reactions are usually delightful to watch and she's usually spot on when it comes to the themes and morals but this one just flew right over her head and it was just annoying as she did, like you said sympathize for all the other characters except him. It's IMO even more annoying especially since John Bender is actually the best character in the entire film (and I say that not being able to personally identify with him, as I saw myself more like Brian) because he's the catalyst for everyone in the film. For Andy, he was the mindless athlete who doesn't think for himself and is best described as a race horse, who does nothing but always follow orders, is obsessed with winning (hence why he was trying to be the group leader in the beginning, evident especially when they were roaming around in the hallway) and always doing the right thing while fearing not doing so will be the end of the world for him. But by the end of the film, Bender inspires him to break the rules which gets Andy to smoke weed (something he was against doing at first because it was wrong in his eyes), he loses at trying to become the group leader (yet Bender doesn't rub it in his face or make him feel bad about it like his Dad would) and is taught that losing isn't the end of the world. Bender in a way frees him of his anxieties and gives him the ability to think for himself which opens up Andy's compassion and empathy towards Allison and Larry Lester (the kid he wronged that got him thrown in detention in the first place). For Brian, he’s considered to be nothing but a nice, normal, somewhat nerdy, socially awkward yet simple guy who nobody would have a real problem with, but because of that he’s very much a people pleaser and very submissive to everyone which leads to him being trampled over and taken advantage of by most people. But because of Bender, he learns to be more assertive, to rebel (particularly when he writes the essay and uses it as a form of poetic justice on Vernon), to stand up for himself (by cursing at Claire when she thinks he doesn’t know pressure, sneering at Allison, and especially by arguing with Bender and refusing to back down, the one guy he was afraid of most and the last guy he would want to piss off at the beginning of the movie), and ultimately to be more social and to have more of a voice in the group (the thing he lacked at the beginning which he then develops and is how he ends up belonging in the group) For Claire, she’s considered to be nothing but the princess, miss popularity, the prom queen, miss goody two shoes, the conceited shallow rich girl of the group who probably has more purses than she does friends, but by the end of the movie she’s more kind and compassionate, less conceited, more expressive, and less passive (rhyme not intended LOL). Now this change in her behavior is more so inspired by her interacting with everyone in the group, but nobody would have even interacted with each other if it wasn’t for Bender in the first place (if he wasn’t there, it’s very likely they would just sit there, be bored and do their essay like Vernon asked them to). And even though, he is an asshole to her most of the film, he challenges her as well as directly inspire her the most out of everyone else in the group which has a very positive effect on her, hence why she pursues a relationship with him (she also does it to get back at her parents too). It's also important to note that her passivity and soft demeanor is a really great contrast to his aggressiveness which also in turn inspires him to grow) so double credit to Bender for that. Now for Allison, her case is a little different. Bender probably doesn’t really inspire her directly as he does the others, perhaps because they see each other as very similar or as allies (which IMO is why she's the first person he speaks to and says “I’ve seen you before” at the beginning of the movie, and why he tossed her a coke when they were having lunch) because both of them don’t conform like the other characters do. And usually when you have 2 similar people hang out, there’s more a feeling of comfort and familiarity which I don’t think really inspires change or growth. So her change, her lowering her defenses, and gradual inclusion in the group is more so a result of Andy’s compassion and empathy for her, but then again that most likely wouldn’t have even happened if Bender didn’t inspire him to be more expressive prior to her opening up to Andy about how her parents ignore her, so credit to Bender there again. John Bender himself is the main driving force in this film and the character with the most commanding presence (and for good reasons too!) He is dealt the hardest life out of everyone else (not just because of his home life, but also because of what everyone says and thinks about; that he’s nothing but a lowlife criminal who won’t amount to anything). But he doesn’t let it get him down, instead he gets angry (though TBH, that's probably all he knows due to his home life) and seemingly tries to use that anger constructively (anger can be a positive force when channeled properly). He uses it to try live his life without fear (evident when crawling through the vents to escape the closet Vernon locked him in, refusing to back down when Vernon is giving him more detentions), and to teach the others to rebel (which is positive because it teaches them that not everything is all black and white and that there are such things as gray areas when it comes to life). It’s also great to see that he even though he has a hard life, he doesn’t let it make him bitter (at least not entirely) because he actually cares about everyone in the group, he wants to talk and hang out with them, he shares his weed with them, and even sacrifices himself so they all don’t get in trouble when they were out roaming around in the halls, which solidifies his position as the group leader (and Bender is a real leader, because leaders strive for their team to do better, and he did just that for everyone.) I don’t care what anyone says, John Bender is the real hero, the real MVP (literally and symbolically as he walks out into the football field) in "The Breakfast Club"! Everyone changes and grows because of him, even he himself does! That’s why the movie ends with him raising his fist triumphantly (everyone’s growth including his own is ultimately his victory, because he inspired it and he proves to everyone that they were wrong about him; that he's not just a lowlife criminal who won't amount to anything) Wow, this comment ended up being way longer than I originally intended (then again, I have a tendency to do that on some KZfaq videos). What started off as me simply agreeing with you ended up as a persuasive essay as to why John Bender is the best character in "The Breakfast Club".
@JaigEyesStudios
@JaigEyesStudios 2 жыл бұрын
@@ivanholguin164 Well said! 🔥✊
@Outrider85
@Outrider85 2 жыл бұрын
@@ivanholguin164 Gold medal. Bravo sir. You have encompassed the full meaning and message of the movie. I'm glad I'm not alone in how I felt about this reaction. She literally did the same thing to Bender that everyone in the movie does. She judged him on his looks and attitude as a criminal and a bad person, missing the entire point of the movie
@jeremyfrost2636
@jeremyfrost2636 2 жыл бұрын
@@ivanholguin164 It's okay, a comment this long holding my notoriously wandering attention for its entire duration means that it was a really fucking awesome comment. So good job, and keep posting comments like that without caring about their length.
@stevemielke
@stevemielke 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta agree that this was a pretty accurate portrayal of high school in the 80s and early 90s.
@jacksonsd_
@jacksonsd_ 2 жыл бұрын
the way you looked at the camera when Allison shook her head over the drawing💀💀
@TheGameGetterKuzuri
@TheGameGetterKuzuri 2 жыл бұрын
I love this movie cause even the so called adults (teacher and janitor) have as many fears and problems as the teens. No one isn't above board in this. Shows that no matter where you are, things that happened when you were young can follow you and it just sucks to be an adult.
@isaiahpavia-cruz678
@isaiahpavia-cruz678 2 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest coming of age films out there
@tomyoung9049
@tomyoung9049 2 жыл бұрын
you finally got it in the last few minutes. This is timeless in my opinion. High school is such a time for many of us. Whether you identify as one of them or even a combination it takes you back. Well written, and acted. Also it holds a special place in my heart as it is set in the yr I graduated. 🎓
@centuryrox
@centuryrox 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how important high school was to us. Especially when you consider that it's only 4 years of your entire life! Now think back to 2017, and compare it to 2021. Pretty short time, yet that was the entire length of your high school experience. Weird, isn't it?
@timothywhitfield8785
@timothywhitfield8785 2 жыл бұрын
Actors actual ages at the time -- Judd Nelson- The Criminal (25 years old) Molly Ringwald - the Princess (16 years old; her 17th birthday was only three days after the film's release) Anthony Michael Hall - The Brain (17 years old) Emilio Estevez ( actors Charles Sheen's brother, Marten Sheen's son) - The Athlete (23 years old) and Ally Sheedy - The Basket Case (23 years old)
@biguy617
@biguy617 2 жыл бұрын
I love this movie. Emilio is great in this film. He is also in the Disney Mighty Ducks movies. The Young Guns western movies are both good. He did a couple of cop movies called Stakeout and Another Stakeout. Both are good movies. He was in St Elmos Fire which is a great movie. Anthony Michael Hall was great in Weird Science. He did the first Chevy Chase Vacation movie which was good. Sixteen Candles was a good movie. He eventually got his own TV show based on the Stephen King book The Dead Zone that lasted for 6 seasons as a man that has the power to see possible futures and the visions of the past when he touches sometimes person or a object. The show is on Tubi. I met him and Ally Sheedy was in the first Short Circuit movie. She does a movie called Fear where she plays a psychic, named Casey, that goes after a psychic killer. St Elmos Fire is a great movie too Molly Ringwald was in the first Season of Facts of Life TV show. She was in Pretty in Pink and Sixteen Candles Judd Nelson was in St Elmos Fire as well. New Jack City is a great movie. He voiced the character in the Transformers animated movie Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime.
@LA_HA
@LA_HA 2 жыл бұрын
Emilio Esteves was definitely the man back then. There's another really great movie he was in that I'm too lazy to look up, but he's with a group of friends on their way to a game. They make a wrong turn into a bad neighborhood and end up running for their lives from Denis Leary, who plays a ruthless drug lord. I think Cuba Gooding, Jr is in it. The other actors in it are popular, too. I just can't recall their names. haha And, of course, AMH is in the upcoming Halloween Kills movie as Tommy Doyle. Can't wait. Just 2 more weeks
@jeremyfrost2636
@jeremyfrost2636 2 жыл бұрын
Judd Nelson was also creepy as fuck as the serial killer in The Cabin By The Lake.
@LA_HA
@LA_HA 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyfrost2636 Oh, I'll give that a look. Thank you
@jeremyfrost2636
@jeremyfrost2636 2 жыл бұрын
@@LA_HA Enjoy!
@nsasupporter7557
@nsasupporter7557 Жыл бұрын
@@LA_HA he’s the older brother of Charlie Sheen. I use to think Charlie was the older brother, but no Emilio is the older brother
@st0n3p0ny
@st0n3p0ny 2 жыл бұрын
"He can't hear the running shoes or the heavy breathing?"... Well, the music was pretty loud.
@jermainemartinez8282
@jermainemartinez8282 2 жыл бұрын
They Complete each other, The Jock, The Smart Kid, The Bully, The Popular Girl, The Emo Kid.
@JBWinter
@JBWinter 2 жыл бұрын
You had a WAY different highschool experience than I did in the early 2000s. I knew at least 4 guys like Bender in my immediate circle, and I *was* Brian - anything less than absolute perfection felt like I'd disappointed every person I knew, to the point even some As felt like failures. Also students got arrested like once a month
@jeremyfrost2636
@jeremyfrost2636 2 жыл бұрын
I know a guy from high school who's still institutionalized. Class of 1997 if he would've lasted that long, literal axe murderer, probably in a rubber room for life. Yes, kids get arrested at this age a lot, sometimes for some really horrible shit.
@JBWinter
@JBWinter 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyfrost2636 we weren't getting arrested for horrible stuff necessarily - there were some arsons and assaults and worse, but "vaguely looks like he's heard of marijuana" was sometimes all it took
@jeremyfrost2636
@jeremyfrost2636 2 жыл бұрын
@@JBWinter Yeah. Emphasis on sometimes in my comment. Usually it was small stuff my classmates got arrested for too.
@onelusciouslad7841
@onelusciouslad7841 2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty gross, sure, but it's also real neat, using dandruff as the snow for her drawing.
@e.m.3081
@e.m.3081 2 жыл бұрын
This was the 80's, things were so different back then.
@x3mslayer
@x3mslayer 2 жыл бұрын
Each one of us is a brain... and an athlete... and a basket case... a princess... and a criminal.
@DavidGarcia-kw4sf
@DavidGarcia-kw4sf 2 жыл бұрын
Another film with many of these same actors that is worth viewing is "St. Elmo's Fire."
@RDRussell2
@RDRussell2 Жыл бұрын
The Brat Pack!
@AxeloftheKey
@AxeloftheKey 2 жыл бұрын
You're very pure and it's endearing. :) In truth, this movie is surprisingly deep IMO. It's obviously not the most wild film, but it's important that people break down the barriers between each other. It seems like an obvious message that people are not who we build them up to be in our heads, but most of us don't act that way. We allow ourselves, in the day to day, to treat people based on the preconceived notions we have about them in our head. But I always think about the scene where everyone reveals why they are in detention, as they break down and admit their problems to one another. I think about Brian, someone who I relate to very much, feeling like I would rather die than fail to be the person I think I'm supposed to. I think about all of them, in truth. It's a lot. None of us know what each other have been through, and most people are afraid to open up to each other. But we have to, at the end of the day.
@willcool713
@willcool713 2 жыл бұрын
Corporal punishment was still common in the '80's. Teachers had paddles and boards in my school, and you could get popped for as little as not doing an a assignment, not being able to do enough push-ups, or talking in class.
@lazyperfectionist1
@lazyperfectionist1 Жыл бұрын
21:30 "I don't wanna turn the movie off. It was so good. I didn't think I'd like it this much. Oh, I _really_ didn't think I'd like it this much." Really? That's surprising. I mean it's such a historic, iconic _movie._
@railenherman6482
@railenherman6482 2 жыл бұрын
“If there was no Bender in this movie, everyone would’ve gone on with their old, normal lives”. Bender is my favorite character, and I feel like he’s the primary main character here. This movie was much deeper than I thought than when I first watched it.
@centuryrox
@centuryrox 2 жыл бұрын
Bender was always my favorite character as well. The rest of them are just conformists (at least until the end), whereas Bender mostly stayed true to himself, even if that occasionally came off as hurtful or mean.
@gluuuuue
@gluuuuue 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno that I ever "found myself" in high school (or college for that matter), but I always thought the appeal of this film and others like it, was that it suggested to a lot of us it was possible for a group of dysfunctional kids who were all maladjusted in their own various ways, could, when forced to endure something together, come out of it sorta all better off than they'd started. I have to think James Gunn drew a bit of inspiration from this, conscientiously or otherwise, and put it in to Guardians of the Galaxy.
@gomikmay
@gomikmay 2 жыл бұрын
Hey,i'm in my early 60's and still trying to figure myself out.
@grahamg2137
@grahamg2137 2 жыл бұрын
7:20 you were right at time of filming Andrew/Emilio Estevez was 23 years old, Allison/ Ally Sheedy was also 23. Bender/Judd Nelson was 25 the only teenager were Claire/Molly Ringwald 16 she turned 17 a few days after release date and Brian/Anthony Michael Hall he was also 16
@gluuuuue
@gluuuuue 2 жыл бұрын
“…Why didn’t they have breakfast?” Been asking that for the 25 years since I first finally saw this thing..
@centuryrox
@centuryrox 2 жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder what breakfast would've consisted of, since Claire was wearing Bender's lunch.
@christhornycroft3686
@christhornycroft3686 2 жыл бұрын
One of those teen movies that defined the 80s. This, Fast Times At Ridgemont High, Sixteen Candles, Pretty In Pink, Footloose and Ferris Bueller's Day Off all defined cinematically what it meant to be a teen in the 1980s. Fast Times was the only one of those movies that John Hughes wasn't behind. Say what you want about the lack of diversity in those movies or the racial stereotypes, but the guy wrote and made movies about what he knew - white kids. Maybe we should be thankful there wasn't a lot of racial diversity in his movies, given how he dealt with that in Sixteen Candles. It's the 80s and white people ignorance was on full display. LOL. All in all, this is one of the best if not the best of John Hughes' work overall, not that the other films he did weren't superb either. Most of the memorable and well-made 80s teen movies were written and/or directed by John Hughes. Ally Sheedy's Allison might be my favourite character in all of 80s teen film.
@dalefraser9771
@dalefraser9771 2 жыл бұрын
Did you really just say "High schoolers are not that emotional"?!?!?
@billfrantz1638
@billfrantz1638 2 жыл бұрын
Ally Sheedy (the basket case) stars with Steve Guttenburg in one of my favorite childhood films, Short Circuit (1986).
@peterwilson1663
@peterwilson1663 2 жыл бұрын
I was a teenager in the 80's. Teachers said stuff tike this to the students. We weren't made of sugar and none of us melted..
@lowkeylowkey2186
@lowkeylowkey2186 2 жыл бұрын
Legendary movie and it makes me reminisce about HS too
@dupersuper1938
@dupersuper1938 2 жыл бұрын
It makes me glad I'm out...
@lowkeylowkey2186
@lowkeylowkey2186 2 жыл бұрын
@@dupersuper1938 why ?
@dupersuper1938
@dupersuper1938 2 жыл бұрын
@@lowkeylowkey2186 Because it was Hell...?
@lowkeylowkey2186
@lowkeylowkey2186 2 жыл бұрын
@@dupersuper1938 how bro ? I mean im from California it was chill dont worry about bills and check out chicks all day and smoke and go to taco bell after school it was fun
@IggyStardust1967
@IggyStardust1967 2 жыл бұрын
Class of 1986 here. Yes, it pretty much was like that back then. Up to and including what Vernon said to Bender. In fact, when I was in 4th grade(public school, mind you)... I caught a big thick red ruler across the knuckles a few times. Say something to the parental unit(s)? Heh.... "You must have done SOMETHING to deserve it." was the answer(this was in 1976 or 77). By the time I got to high school, I was pretty much a cross between Brian and Bender. Kinda geeky/nerdy looking, but a "secret bad boy". I didn't get into drugs, but I was said to be the most likely to die of liver failure before I was 30. I'm 54 now, still drink like a fish... and my liver is fine. But yeah, this behavior was pretty much the norm, just not as "condensed" in 8 hours like in the movie. Also, what Vern said about "Who do you think they will believe, you or me?" was pretty much dead on. Especially if the kid had a history of disciplinary issues.
@wardenm
@wardenm 2 жыл бұрын
"Stop crying or I'll give you something to REALLY cry about!" Hearing that and similar from adults as a kid back then wrecked me, internally.
@IggyStardust1967
@IggyStardust1967 2 жыл бұрын
@@wardenm Yeah, but remember, for the most part, they did it with our best interest at heart. The only "abuse" I suffered was from my own peers. Adults, for the most part, were simply trying to make me into a better person, prepared for what life would throw at me(including the abuse of my peers). I'm not saying ALL adults were like that, because we know better. There were a lot of abusive parents/guardians/teachers/etc.... but there is a huge difference between "discipline" and "abuse". Most of which boils down to "intent".
@wardenm
@wardenm 2 жыл бұрын
@@IggyStardust1967 One of the hardest lessons for us to learn growing up, is that the adults who we think have all the answers, are still just figuring it out as they go along themselves. It's they're first time being the age they are, dealing with the situations they're in. They make mistakes same as anyone, some forgivable and some not. It's a huge eye opener once you finally start to realize that, for sure!
@fergalstackstreams
@fergalstackstreams 2 жыл бұрын
This movie was on TBS ALL THE TIME in the 90s. Every channel seemed to have that one movie they loved to run into the ground. Turner had the Breakfast Club, USA Network had Tremors, Comedy Central had PCU, and so on.
@Vort317545
@Vort317545 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the 1980s. Come of age in the 1980s. Bishop Chatard High School, class of 1986. The Breakfast Club beautifully captures what it was like back then. This WAS High School back then for an entire generation of us from the 1980s. It was a total HIT back then because of it too! This is what we went through. The Highs and Lows of being a teenager back then. There will never be a time like it ever again!! :)
@johnnyspaceman1
@johnnyspaceman1 2 жыл бұрын
You sound like you led a sheltered life..
@phillymc73
@phillymc73 11 ай бұрын
Hello there. GenXer here. I was 13 years old when this film was released. You have no idea how important and impactful the film was on my generation. Filmmaker John Hughes touched a nerve and showed everyone what’s it like to be a teenager in the middle of Ronald Regan’s America. The 1980’s was seriously a different time than any other decade. Now I’m a 50 year old man with a kid, and when he becomes a teenager, I’ll be showing him this film and explaining to him what life was like then and how it will relates to him. The Breakfast Club has stood the test the time, and so has the soundtrack. It’s a time capsule that captures the 80’s perfectly, but it shows us how universal it is at the same time. I’m glad you enjoyed the movie.
@SnowyWolborg
@SnowyWolborg 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. When Vernon said that he's been a teacher for 22 years, that means that he started in 1962, because the movie takes place in 1984. Vernon is from the baby boomer generation, now stuck surrounded by Gen X teenagers who he claims are getting more and more "arrogant." hich is ironic because these kids were famousforbeing hardly parented because they were oftentimes alone when they came back from school.
@JustinSambula
@JustinSambula 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 80k my friend 😄😄✨⭐️🌟⭐️. You’re the best 👌🏾👌🏾
@kevinburton3948
@kevinburton3948 2 жыл бұрын
I was in grade 10 in 1985 and yeah... This is pretty much how we acted. Maybe a "little" less sophisticated than the 5 here. We all had our Bender, our Jock, our Basket Case our Princess, and a teacher/supervisor who felt the need to demonstrate what a hardass they thought they were. I identified pretty hard with Brian back then (my grades weren't even close to his though). This is one of the most timeless movies to come out of the 1980s- it still drips of an 80s vibe, but the issues, the cliques, the angst, the rebellion, the bewilderment at it all... Yeah... This is what it means to be in high-school.
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@mynameisbob333 2 жыл бұрын
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