The British Tough Guy Trope, Explained

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The British "Hardman" broke traditional notions of what british men were like and has now become an icon in cinema, from ross kemp to danny dyer, tom hardy to killian murphy today we will explore this phenomena.
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@JimmyTheGiant
@JimmyTheGiant 4 ай бұрын
Come join my research team on discord! - discord.gg/5CtEmZvx
@BarksRG
@BarksRG 4 ай бұрын
There's a Football factory sequel in production called MARCHING POWDER i belive lol
@AtZero138
@AtZero138 4 ай бұрын
Jimmy what I've been impressed with, your from a place,, never have I heard you sound or speak with ego or trying,, I grew up in Orange County California... Huntington Beach/Westminster.. I'm 50, I was My music life, had to earn it here, until they knew you would fight every time questioned or challenged, violent everywhere, my other life was BMX my local shop was one of the 1st to sell GT bikes, your feature on This culture and evolution.. like you were here Brother.. Always entertaining and worth watching.. Oi Oi Oi @∅
@skilletpan5674
@skilletpan5674 4 ай бұрын
Sherlock Homes was a hardman. If you look into some of the history of his character then you know that he was a bare knuckle boxer/stick cain fighter and drug fiend. The more modern portrayal of him by robert downey junior is fairly accurate.
@JimmyTheGiant
@JimmyTheGiant 4 ай бұрын
@@AtZero138 Thanks man! appreciate the comment
@matham625
@matham625 4 ай бұрын
dont forget "Brighton Rock" 1948.. watch it if you have not, pinky
@WeyounSix
@WeyounSix 4 ай бұрын
Danny Dyer naming his daughter Dani Dyer is the funniest shit
@pestotron8291
@pestotron8291 4 ай бұрын
Truly
@RobotronSage
@RobotronSage 4 ай бұрын
Oh no he din't omfg
@TheCrewdy
@TheCrewdy 4 ай бұрын
I'm pretty confident he wrote his name in the wrong box (spelled incorrectly of course) and didn't notice until it was too late
@HydiestFaith
@HydiestFaith 4 ай бұрын
Dani Dyer named her son Danny Dyer.
@raychambers3646
@raychambers3646 4 ай бұрын
The professional cockney ,
@tehhotline4225
@tehhotline4225 4 ай бұрын
Ross Kemp asking that guy with an AK-47 if he's going to kill him while grabbing off him and finishing off with a "Nobody's going to kill me" was probably the hardest thing in this whole genre
@interesting2491
@interesting2491 4 ай бұрын
Was probably fake though…just give them a tenner and create a scenario
@CallumDoyleDarling
@CallumDoyleDarling 4 ай бұрын
Im 50/50 on that scene in Papaua New Guinea...definitely credible to suggest it was real, it wasnt an AK IIRC, it was a shot gun or some form of old long rifle.
@TheRealYoda-ob7gd
@TheRealYoda-ob7gd 3 ай бұрын
@@interesting2491 it wasnt fake that is how the gang tests new people.he passed the test
@mephamjohnson4422
@mephamjohnson4422 3 ай бұрын
Did you know they told him what SAS it stands for Super Army Soldiers
@will.42069
@will.42069 3 ай бұрын
Is this that scene where they were sprinkling cocaine on the floor to get rid of “bad juju” ? 🤣
@chefrowlet
@chefrowlet 4 ай бұрын
"I'm a man of the people" immediately speaks latin good lord if a script writer put that in a movie people would say it was too unrealistic of a satire
@juliohidalgo811
@juliohidalgo811 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, right! Cant believe people are not picking that!
@DodgyDaveGTX
@DodgyDaveGTX 2 ай бұрын
Jacob Rees-Mogg is about an accurate portrayal of the quintessential British man, as Borat is of the typical Kazakhstani
@Bolognabeef
@Bolognabeef 2 ай бұрын
Come on that's a very well known Latin phrase, at least here in Italy
@jupitersnoot4915
@jupitersnoot4915 2 ай бұрын
​@Bolognabeef OK? Well it's not a well known phrase in England.
@Bolognabeef
@Bolognabeef 2 ай бұрын
@@jupitersnoot4915 damn y'all dumb af fr then
@Overlord99762
@Overlord99762 4 ай бұрын
Fuckin' hell, here I was a non-Brit seeing Ross Kemp's documentaries in Afghanistan and other parts thinking he was a journalist, I am now finding out he's an actor first.
@Desmond9100
@Desmond9100 4 ай бұрын
Check out Ultimate Force
@Naz-xk6hq
@Naz-xk6hq 4 ай бұрын
@@Desmond9100 that show was basically the prototype for Strike Back.
@SHVRWK
@SHVRWK 4 ай бұрын
You should go
@ras7646
@ras7646 4 ай бұрын
@@Naz-xk6hq Damn, the good old days. They don't make shows like that and Banshee any more
@Naz-xk6hq
@Naz-xk6hq 4 ай бұрын
@@ras7646 Banshee was far better in my opinion, I got bored of Strike back towards season 5. Strike back was so excessive in gunfights and tits that you practically became desensitised to it. It didnt help that it happened in every episode, which didnt allow room for character development that wouldve benefited the show. The moment that made me think this was getting ridiculous was when Scott was talking to an FSB agent, that he had a prior fling before with, about getting raped by a man she was sent to infiltrate, and then they *immediately* have sex afterwards. This frustrates me because they could have had a good opportunity for character development here for Scott, who constantly shags every female character within a 10 meter vicinity , to compensate for his trauma aswell. He simply could have rejected it and it would have showed immense character growth.
@veaceslavstoianov4378
@veaceslavstoianov4378 4 ай бұрын
Jimmy never fails to rip my limb apart one by one as I scream in excrutiating pain and agony meanwhile my consciousness slowly fades away
@finlaywightman7126
@finlaywightman7126 4 ай бұрын
Wit
@craigslater8227
@craigslater8227 4 ай бұрын
You're cooked. Settle your crease 😅
@kai_plays_khomus
@kai_plays_khomus 4 ай бұрын
Maybe you should see a doctor?
@veaceslavstoianov4378
@veaceslavstoianov4378 4 ай бұрын
@@kai_plays_khomus Not a bad idea
@Codsworth_
@Codsworth_ 4 ай бұрын
@@craigslater8227 'How'd you do, fellow kids'
@stalfithrildi5366
@stalfithrildi5366 4 ай бұрын
Regarding the trope of everyone British in films being posh solidified the RAF's image too. Soldiers and sailors were known for being working class, but in the 30s and 40s airmen had no stereotype so the fifteen million posh actors all piled into RAF films, and everyone decided it was the posh branch. My grandad had a Yorkshire accent, and his pilot had an East Glaswegian accent and downed half a bottle of whiskey before getting in a balsawood plane and taking photos of Nazi industry. If they made a film about them they'd sound like the Eton common room.
@RedPhil87
@RedPhil87 3 ай бұрын
"East glaswegian" - my neck of the woods 😂
@mleszzor6866
@mleszzor6866 2 ай бұрын
@@RedPhil87 What does that mean?
@notbadsteve
@notbadsteve 2 ай бұрын
@@mleszzor6866 it means he lives in east glasgow (scotland). 👍
@mleszzor6866
@mleszzor6866 2 ай бұрын
@@notbadsteve Thanks!
@PORRRIDGE_GUN
@PORRRIDGE_GUN 2 ай бұрын
The RAF was the most diverse employer in the 1940s. Aussies, Saffers, Cariibbeans, Sikhs, Poles, French, Dutch, Belgians, Danes, Norwegians, Czechs etc. My grandad, an Irish citizen, started the war as an LAC, and finished as a Squadron Leader, offered Wing commander if he stayed in.
@theopinionatedcharles2795
@theopinionatedcharles2795 4 ай бұрын
It's such a shame that the cockney accent is a rarity nowadays as someone who's granddad had the accent and mannerisms of a geezer when he was younger, I love listening to him talk whenever I get the chance to speak to him, he has such a way with his words and how he speaks and it's one of the main reason I have a very southern accent as someone who grew up in the north east
@JimmyTheGiant
@JimmyTheGiant 4 ай бұрын
it has a lot of personality, you do sometimes here it but its dying. maybe a video in there
@rorz999
@rorz999 4 ай бұрын
It's a shame, but it kind of lives on in Essex. Most of the white working class in east London have moved further east to Essex
@patmann9363
@patmann9363 4 ай бұрын
​@@rorz999Also lurking in Kent.
@BillyTheCheeseMonger
@BillyTheCheeseMonger 4 ай бұрын
My whole British family are very very cockney and I live for it
@loolfactorie
@loolfactorie 4 ай бұрын
Everyone wants to sound black now. West country, Manchester, Birmingham; they're all adopting the yardie-roadman accent.
@samurai-capybara
@samurai-capybara 4 ай бұрын
When people say 'the late 1900s', I feel about 100 years old.
@mongrel_97
@mongrel_97 3 ай бұрын
my man we're a quarter through the 2000s already
@GeometricPidgeon
@GeometricPidgeon 3 ай бұрын
​@@mongrel_97username checks out
@hultonclint
@hultonclint 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, 1906-1909.
@benyere
@benyere 4 ай бұрын
Really hope you could cover the rudeboy/skinhead of British/Jamaican culture as its heavily controversial from its two main groups as seen in like movie like "This is England" and also maybe a video covering punks/mods its really good to see a dive into British subcultures
@melb7655
@melb7655 4 ай бұрын
look up 'that uk sound - Jamaica connection'
@tastypymp1287
@tastypymp1287 4 ай бұрын
Yawn.
@ZoZooZoooZoxxxx
@ZoZooZoooZoxxxx 4 ай бұрын
Sounds very interesting too me as a German, did they mix with nazi ideology or was it that early skins when they still where leftist or so ? All that skins thing is a mysterious topic to me. So many layers of confusion 😅
@benyere
@benyere 4 ай бұрын
@@ZoZooZoooZoxxxx I think it has something to do with NF a english national political party and news/movie illustrations of what they think and slowly converted to neo-nazi skinhead but im not entirely sure on that side of history, it is confusing i agree
@brendanm6921
@brendanm6921 4 ай бұрын
​@@ZoZooZoooZoxxxxbasically mate, it all really started as a purely musical thing. Back when a lot of the black population in the UK were very largely still immigrants who had come over from Jamaica, they lived in very working class areas alongside working class white folks and the two groups formed a subculture that was all centred around these two distinct demographics combining their different styles of music. This combination became known as two tone ska and was really spear headed by the bands The Selector and The Specials. It was all about spreading the message of love and community spirit through this music. And then after a while, the look and the sound was adopted by the National Front, the people who the person above referred to. Essentially they were neo nazis. And this then led to a huge cultural battle between the two different generations of skinheads. It's very sad as a subculture that was once all about poor people with different ethnic backgrounds coming together and making fun music with a loving message has now become tarnished by right wing thugs.
@rfcfanj7911
@rfcfanj7911 4 ай бұрын
He’s not talking about Cillian Murphy as in who he actually is but how his performance as Tommy Shelby has changed the hard man stereotype. Fun fact Tom hardy isn’t actually the cray twin but he played them in a movie
@JimmyTheGiant
@JimmyTheGiant 4 ай бұрын
Its insane how many people haven’t realised that 😂 cheers for ya comment
@mrbutty143
@mrbutty143 3 ай бұрын
Cillian Murphy is Irish he is from Cork . Which is actually a sub culture within irisn culture
@rfcfanj7911
@rfcfanj7911 3 ай бұрын
@@mrbutty143 but where not talking about Cillian Murphy where talking about Tommy Shelby. Like how Christin bale isn’t American billionaire who’s parent where shot dead because he made them leave a play
@RuB0t
@RuB0t 3 ай бұрын
In fairness to them, it's an incredibly common occurrence to see British media claiming an Irish person as being British or foreign media incorrectly saying we're British (sorry lads, we're not) so seeing Cillian Murphy's character being claimed as British is a little too close to home (for some) I guarantee the only reason McGregor hasn't been claimed by the BBC is because he's such an insufferable ballbag
@mrbutty143
@mrbutty143 3 ай бұрын
@@RuB0t spot on
@yorkie23D7
@yorkie23D7 Ай бұрын
Vinnie Jones was always a bit of a tough guy but Leeds United fans remember him as someone who had a real special place in his heart for the disabled fans at the matches. Rough but genuine.
@WarlordEnthusiast
@WarlordEnthusiast 4 ай бұрын
The thing i like about "Hardmen" is that they're real, there's plenty of examples of people that are just like you've seen in movies like snatch. In some regards they're toned down compared to their movie counterparts. Shaun Smith is a prime example, the man basically invented drug terrorism in Ireland and the UK, you could easily write a movie just based on his experiences and it would look like fiction.
@Bob78
@Bob78 4 ай бұрын
sorry, his name is Shaun Smith. SHAUN SMITH??????
@Conorguill
@Conorguill 4 ай бұрын
Nah the movie hardman has the brutality of the real-life wannabes but with a charm / humour / propriety absent from the irl equivalents
@WarlordEnthusiast
@WarlordEnthusiast 4 ай бұрын
@@Bob78 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iruqn9CIvMrOdYU.htmlsi=2coTqd9Ng7N_dIUp He's a legend in his community for helping out locals yet he's built like a tank and has the firepower to back it up.
@jujutrini8412
@jujutrini8412 4 ай бұрын
@@ConorguillReal old timer hardmen used to be a bit like that. The ones that were robbing banks and stuff in the sixties. They are all gone now though.
@chriskjo1611
@chriskjo1611 4 ай бұрын
Hmmmm talk about English tough guys without ever mentioning Ray Winstone. He's the original unstable confrontational brawling English houlihan. My favorite movie of his is 'Nil By Mouth' directed by Gary Oldman.
@fuzzydunlop1988
@fuzzydunlop1988 4 ай бұрын
That scene with Kathy Burke is hard to watch
@fred-a-stair
@fred-a-stair 4 ай бұрын
Ben Kingsley in Sexy beast. The most frightening character I've seen on tv
@pablogats4627
@pablogats4627 4 ай бұрын
Yes scum is one of my fave films ever
@nicholasgreen339
@nicholasgreen339 Ай бұрын
Scum is the classic ray winstone film
@connorriley7511
@connorriley7511 4 ай бұрын
Surprised you didn’t talk about “Essex Boys” or “The Rise Of A Foot Soldier” which is about a football firm that ran a huge ecstasy ring and the main members (the Essex 3) ending up getting murdered in the case known Rettendon triple murders amongst other popular monikers. Exact example of hard men transcending film into real life.
@50shadesofgday64
@50shadesofgday64 4 ай бұрын
The real carlton leach makes a cameo in it I think.
@MbisonBalrog
@MbisonBalrog 4 ай бұрын
Did Hooligans sell drugs in real life?
@RobotronSage
@RobotronSage 4 ай бұрын
You should research Dutch hooligans /skinheads >1000% drugs@@MbisonBalrog
@andreroswell1561
@andreroswell1561 4 ай бұрын
@@MbisonBalrog The ICF - Inter City Firm did security for the raves.
@Greeny_303
@Greeny_303 4 ай бұрын
@@MbisonBalrog Yep BIG time by the 90s rave culture also stopped loads of lads heading in that direction
@pyrho1
@pyrho1 4 ай бұрын
I'm American and I love the British Hardman trope. Especially Tommy Shelby and Daniel Craig's 007.
@moorshound3243
@moorshound3243 3 ай бұрын
007 is not hard he is just well trained
@The_Sleepiest_Socialist
@The_Sleepiest_Socialist 3 ай бұрын
How about Captain Price?
@anon2427
@anon2427 3 ай бұрын
007 doesn’t fit this archetype
@bubz3t136
@bubz3t136 3 ай бұрын
I've never watched Peaky Blinders, but it's a joke that Cillian Murphy is playing a hardman in the first place. He looks like a lesbian. Real hardmen don't even have necks. He's just like Christopher Walken, who often played hardmen, even though he looked like Blanche from the Golden Girls.
@GeometricPidgeon
@GeometricPidgeon 3 ай бұрын
​@@bubz3t136so you had all that to say about a show you never watched? Intelligent take, sir.
@OofHearted
@OofHearted 4 ай бұрын
You forgot about Begbie from Trainspotting.
@GR-cf4qh
@GR-cf4qh 3 ай бұрын
Begbie was hard, but not so hard that he didn't shite it off 20 years in Sultan.
@Flintlockon
@Flintlockon 2 ай бұрын
@@GR-cf4qh You win the comment and all comments. Well played sir.
@ZP1993
@ZP1993 4 ай бұрын
I'd also like to mention The Long Good Friday. Bob Hoskins playing an English gangster was a good example of an English hardman,I wouldn't be surprised if his role inspired some of the characters in later British gangster movies like Lock, Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels and Snatch.
@northfield3654
@northfield3654 4 ай бұрын
The Gentlemen is basically Guy Richies version of The Long Good Friday, it even loosely follows the storyline and the (near) ending is the same
@ange1098
@ange1098 4 ай бұрын
Awesome movie awesome cast
@MegaWoody1963
@MegaWoody1963 4 ай бұрын
Don't forget Michael Caine in 'Get Carter' in 1971, an absolute classic.
@jujutrini8412
@jujutrini8412 4 ай бұрын
Spot on!
@reecechapman-spencer7309
@reecechapman-spencer7309 3 ай бұрын
Gentleman sucked ass though. @@northfield3654
@Yuuna..Yuuki.
@Yuuna..Yuuki. 4 ай бұрын
Your videos make me proud as punch to be English. My dad used to say "Adam England's amazing kiddo. An island so small it can be fit into the corner of californa with an empire and whats the most spoken language in the world. English. People speak english not American. "
@Yuuna..Yuuki.
@Yuuna..Yuuki. 4 ай бұрын
Have to add . Human traffic , green street, rise of the foot solider, football factory. Some of my favourite films there. Also the fsr superior and original UK shameless is a gem. Frank Gallagher a British treasure
@DodgyDaveGTX
@DodgyDaveGTX 2 ай бұрын
@@Yuuna..Yuuki. Could we include Sacha Baron Cohen's character in 'Grimsby Brothers' as a comedic example - even if it is completely parodic?
@MarcusBurkenhare
@MarcusBurkenhare 2 ай бұрын
I'm no footie fan but the image of Vinnie grabbing Gazza by the knackers is iconic.
@itsirrelephantman
@itsirrelephantman 4 ай бұрын
Grants part in Extras with Vinnie was brilliant
@Mengha
@Mengha 4 ай бұрын
SAS - Super Army Soldiers
@StephenRyan1951
@StephenRyan1951 4 ай бұрын
Love these breakdowns of British culture. It was your chav video that made me subscribe.
@stevegriffey8255
@stevegriffey8255 4 ай бұрын
English rather than ‘British.’
@briton3851
@briton3851 4 ай бұрын
@@stevegriffey8255not with this video, hooligans are welsh english scottish manx cornish etc
@stevegriffey8255
@stevegriffey8255 4 ай бұрын
@@briton3851 I’m English… Watch it now! 😆
@JJ-qe1ls
@JJ-qe1ls 4 ай бұрын
i feel like the film Dead Mans Shoes, needed a shout out
@rael1999
@rael1999 3 ай бұрын
One of my all time favourite films !
@pyrho1
@pyrho1 4 ай бұрын
The variety of have accents in Britain always astounds me, considering the entire island is relatively small.
@stalfithrildi5366
@stalfithrildi5366 4 ай бұрын
My part of South Yorkshire pronounces our word for "You" in such a distinctive way that people from the other parts of South Yorks call us a nickname based on it. The word for "You".
@alkaholic4848
@alkaholic4848 Ай бұрын
@@stalfithrildi5366 Dee dar's?
@SmokeNUFC
@SmokeNUFC 4 ай бұрын
Danny dyer was always shitting it on deadly mens and the real football factory it was comical 🤣🤣🤣
@turnip5359
@turnip5359 3 ай бұрын
Apparently in real life hes a nice bloke and a bit of a softy and the cockney ardman thing is just an act
@fatdaddy1996
@fatdaddy1996 3 ай бұрын
Can you blame him. He's a posh boy and he's not a unit, plus a lot of genuine hard men are genuine nutters.
@scottwallace5239
@scottwallace5239 3 ай бұрын
Think Kevin bridges bit on this is best when he's talking about the rangers vs celtic episode of footballs deadliest rivalries and it's like 12AM on a Sunday, people are just waking around in colours drinking coffee and tea and you got Danny trying to hype it up like the battle of Hastings is about to kick off
@aPol.01
@aPol.01 3 ай бұрын
As a representative from Guinness World Records, it is with great pleasure that I inform you of a remarkable achievement associated with your video. I am delighted to announce that your video has been officially recognized for setting a world record. Specifically, your content has earned the distinction for the highest frequency of the term 'hardman' uttered within an 18-minute duration.
@DodgyDaveGTX
@DodgyDaveGTX 2 ай бұрын
How the fuck does one even get a job working for the Guinness World Records, anyway? 🙃
@iamnotmrlebowski
@iamnotmrlebowski 2 ай бұрын
Great video mate. Aussie here. Absolutely love British movies and shows over Hollywood. Bronson wasn't a fictional hard man. Bronson was terrifying.
@huwguyver4208
@huwguyver4208 2 ай бұрын
I'm Aussie and I'm really enjoying the deep dives into British culture from this channel. Danny Dyer was awesome in Human Traffic. It's a shame he seems to have turned into the UK equivalent of Malibu's Most Wanted if this video is anything to go by. Ross Kemp sounds like an absolute boss though.
@akilahcopeland559
@akilahcopeland559 4 ай бұрын
What a sweet hit of nostalgia, bruhv. That Tom Hardy film, Legend, held me captive the whole way through. Feeling all the feels 😂 And Guy Ritchie is eternally one of my fav filmmakers.
@DrtyALGreen
@DrtyALGreen 4 ай бұрын
As an American who's seen Danny's show I laughed my ass off "and then there's Danny Dyer"😂
@pd4165
@pd4165 4 ай бұрын
He's funny on panel shaws. Standouts for me is when he does 'dictionary corner' on 8OOTCDC.
@exbritishforcespatriotscha7723
@exbritishforcespatriotscha7723 2 ай бұрын
I knew a bloke who had phychiatric problems,was one of Britain's strongest men. I got to know him by chatting in a pub,Big bald and tatoos even on his head.A great friend to have.I was having a pint with him and only can describe some southern Gangsters turn up.He left with them for I do not know but imagine someone had a whole lot of hurt that afternoon.
@AtZero138
@AtZero138 4 ай бұрын
To me... Bullet Tooth Tony..all his lines are unchallenged, pure greatness
@pm-5565
@pm-5565 4 ай бұрын
I'm patiently waiting for the day we get a movie or series where the protagonist is a hard scouse, probably with subtitles because most won't understand a word.
@Dpw20001
@Dpw20001 4 ай бұрын
Terry o'Neill would've played a good scouse hardman villain but he was a very well spoken scouser
@blizzardgaming7070
@blizzardgaming7070 4 ай бұрын
Not even the scouser's know what they say half the time.
@fatdaddy1996
@fatdaddy1996 3 ай бұрын
Scousers, Mancs, Geordies, Weegies and Irish all tough as anyone.
@paddyrobbo1683
@paddyrobbo1683 3 ай бұрын
No film or show has ever done a better job of creating the “hard man” act dancing the line beteeen dani dyer and James Bond like Snatch with all the characters in it that was imo the peak of the uk “hard man” stereotype
@bruhmoment11111
@bruhmoment11111 2 ай бұрын
I like that you did a Bri'ish accent the whole time, very authentic-sounding.
@Mrmatthew4338
@Mrmatthew4338 4 ай бұрын
This video isn't just genius because of the awesome editing and hilarious delivery. It's genius because of the very topic itself. I mean, just get a load of that title, "The Radical Overhaul of the British Hard Man," superb. You've done it again Jimmy old sport, God's speed dear boy, you really do wallop out a ruddy good video what what (you know what voice to use when you read that last sentence)
@natmanprime4295
@natmanprime4295 4 ай бұрын
...and now he's changed the title
@Mrmatthew4338
@Mrmatthew4338 4 ай бұрын
@@natmanprime4295 hahaha really? Maybe I freaked him out kissing his ass too hard. Such a clever idea for a video I couldn't help myself but get my internet smooch on. Silly me hehehe
@arthurmorganhimself
@arthurmorganhimself 4 ай бұрын
would love to see a video discussing the north south divide and nuances and differences in culture
@djwalker7823
@djwalker7823 4 ай бұрын
You should have referenced lenny mclean in your lockstock section . Seeing that he had a role in it . He was the original english HARDMAN . A real street fighter and debt collector . There is still alot of footage of lenny online in real fights and giving interviews.
@JimmyTheGiant
@JimmyTheGiant 4 ай бұрын
Might make a full vid on him - so i didnt wanna go on too much of a tangent
@leojohnson-lay4051
@leojohnson-lay4051 4 ай бұрын
Fuckin hell the Danny dyer bit has me creasing
@Nantosuelta
@Nantosuelta 4 ай бұрын
I do have a major soft spot for the british 'ard man. Also, if it hasn't been said enough, Ross Kemp is truly a real life badass and a fantastic journalist.
@h-dawg969
@h-dawg969 4 ай бұрын
Ross Kemp in Extras is on point…. Super, Army Soldiers.
@lucian6395
@lucian6395 4 ай бұрын
I think you've done alot of research and I do agree with all your points, but I do think you should of mentioned Harold Shand from The Long Good Friday, he was the tough guy that has inspired every single one of Guy Ritchies crime films, it was controversial at the time, but it was ahead of it's time, diving into the characters emotions such as pride, anger, hated and fear. Harold Shand felt like the British prototype of Tony Soprano. It came out in 1980, Lock Stock and two Smoking Barrels came out in 1998 and The Sopranos came out in 1999, so it came along 20 years too early.
@itswilbur3747
@itswilbur3747 4 ай бұрын
Definitely Long Good Friday, good call. I'd also throw in Scum by Alan Clarke and anything by Shane Meadows. Always felt that many (not all) of the Footie Hardmen type films were showbiz folk fetishizing the stereotype, rather than digging into it. Fun to watch, but little else.
@lucian6395
@lucian6395 4 ай бұрын
@@itswilbur3747 Scum is a good shout and something by Shane Meadows would be good, I'd say This is England over Dead man's fingers simply because it also had 3 series after.
@itswilbur3747
@itswilbur3747 4 ай бұрын
@@lucian6395 This is England is a and the following series really gets in to the culture/people of the time, in the way that Guy Ritchie/Nick Love types just caricature. Although Dead Man's Shoes really does a great job of showing those small town British bully boys. Knew plenty of them growing up.
@gunrock00
@gunrock00 4 ай бұрын
I'm surprised that Terry (Dennis Waterman) from Minder and even before that, The Sweeney (hard men cops behaving badly) and even perhaps, The Professionals.
@lucian6395
@lucian6395 4 ай бұрын
@@gunrock00 That's also a good choice, especially Terry from Minder. His characterisation was different as he was someone who could of been the average hard man, but his morals had him try to do the right thing.
@Pooknottin
@Pooknottin 2 ай бұрын
I had other things to say, but your closing comment just made me laugh so hard, I don't need to anymore. Nice one mate.
@ShornDunlevy
@ShornDunlevy 2 ай бұрын
An excellent script expertly spoken. I imagine getting clearance for the clips was a headache! The team who put this together are very talented people. I cannot praise them too much. It's the 0.01% of KZfaq that isn't marred by poor sentence construction, ugly wordage and/or excess verbage. That alone sets it apart. 10/10. Many thanks.
@smelkus
@smelkus 4 ай бұрын
Danny Dyer reminds me of the people in the South park episode Super phun thyme where they go to a recreation of a pioneer village and the employees never break character
@kikichunt8322
@kikichunt8322 4 ай бұрын
You need to watch "Performance" and "Get Carter" (both 1971) if you want to see something closer to the real roots of the trope . . .
@thomsboys77
@thomsboys77 3 ай бұрын
And the Long Good Friday
@RichardLissimore
@RichardLissimore 3 ай бұрын
@@thomsboys77 Without LGF and GC there's a huge history gap in this video.
@cricketReviewChannel211
@cricketReviewChannel211 4 ай бұрын
They don't make movies like Lock Stock anymore. It was so intricate and well put together
@JimmyTheGiant
@JimmyTheGiant 4 ай бұрын
Its less common but guy ritchie still is killing it - the gentleman was brilliant
@bartsimba4
@bartsimba4 4 ай бұрын
Lock stock and two smoking barrels is such a masterpiece! One of my favorite movies
@petekeuning
@petekeuning 4 ай бұрын
Hella insightful bud. Great piece.
@OneMancBanned
@OneMancBanned 4 ай бұрын
Let's Go ! That was a great watch.geeza ! Danny Dyer bit was spot on 🤣
@jacksonwatkins6431
@jacksonwatkins6431 Ай бұрын
It's so funny to hear Geezer explained this way because it means something very different in the states.
@R1ck3stR1ck
@R1ck3stR1ck 4 ай бұрын
Speaking as a guy who was born and bred in Luton, I definitely want that film to come out, then people can see what I used to put up with day after day 🤣😂
@N1GHTw4tching
@N1GHTw4tching 4 ай бұрын
You make the best content, keep it up
@youcancallmejimbob.2326
@youcancallmejimbob.2326 4 ай бұрын
Love coming back every hour to see the new video title
@richardhughes8095
@richardhughes8095 3 ай бұрын
HUGE fan Jimmy. Really interesting videos, well researched and presented in such an engaging manner. Keep up the excellent work.
@c.antoniojohnson7114
@c.antoniojohnson7114 4 ай бұрын
Britan was a superpower from the 1600s to the 1970s,of course they are going to have some tough customers that get to the business.
@letsdothis9063
@letsdothis9063 Ай бұрын
Too bad the West has been neutered.
@swamp_donkey
@swamp_donkey 4 ай бұрын
Can't wait for Luton the movie!
@fuzzydunlop1988
@fuzzydunlop1988 4 ай бұрын
Think there's a series called Stevenage and Luton the movie will be using a lot of the same actors.
@Harkness197
@Harkness197 4 ай бұрын
the Ross Kemp documentaries were insane! great video bro!
@kashyusaf9260
@kashyusaf9260 4 ай бұрын
Really good and entertaining analysis on something hardly anyone talks about
@Burnitdownnn
@Burnitdownnn 4 ай бұрын
Great job once more , Jimmy! keep em coming!
@janpol466
@janpol466 4 ай бұрын
Dude, you just spoke my mind. Great video.
@brownpunk1794
@brownpunk1794 4 ай бұрын
Danny dyer is as tough as my grandmas slipper😂😂😂😂😂 What a laugh
@bazjr86
@bazjr86 3 ай бұрын
Yup he was good in human traffic. That's it.
@andytidbury8334
@andytidbury8334 21 күн бұрын
I'm a new subscriber, really enjoying the videos. So well presented and amusing, and you can see the research that has gone into them. Great stuff.
@PYGolf
@PYGolf 4 ай бұрын
🇨🇦 Here and I've learned so much. Well done, subscribed
@SmokeNUFC
@SmokeNUFC 4 ай бұрын
Good video mate well researched and presented keep it up :)
@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886
@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886 4 ай бұрын
I want to see James Bond fight a British tough guy villain.
@bobbyscott2123
@bobbyscott2123 3 ай бұрын
There is a couple of 007movies where he fights British bad guys One of them is Sean bean The other is Robert Carlyle There is probably more Sorry can’t remember the names of these bond movie’s It was the later ones
@Elyseon
@Elyseon 3 ай бұрын
Bond on vacation getting caught in a pub brawl?
@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886
@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886 3 ай бұрын
@Elyseon Yeah, Bond walks into a Bar, orders a "Shaken not Stirred" and tries to flirt with a Tough Guy's girlfriend. Tough Guy calls him a posh tosser, and all hell breaks loose as they brawl. Later we learn the Tough Guy and Bond are either supposed to be partners or the Tough Guy is the Villain or his main enforcer. The Tough Guy and Bond try to one up each other and in the end they have a fight where perhaps the Tough Guy wins the Brawl but Bond completes the mission anyway through cunning and the Tough Guy and Bond go their seperate ways with mutual respect and an unfinished rivalry. Until the Next Movie! Roll Credits with Music and Graphics 🔫 💃 🎶 💥 🚘 💪 🚀 🌊⚓️🔎 . James Bond and the Tough Guy will return.
@thefamilypodcast9556
@thefamilypodcast9556 Ай бұрын
Great video mate! Glad I found this channel.
@pharaohbacksmokin4372
@pharaohbacksmokin4372 4 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥 ngl was hoping for a half hour video
@impguardwarhamer
@impguardwarhamer 4 ай бұрын
the classic british tough guy couldn't survive the millions of new doctors and engineers arriving on the streets of British cities, such a shame
@nicholasgreen339
@nicholasgreen339 Ай бұрын
The irony
@alastor8091
@alastor8091 4 ай бұрын
Very cool. For some reason every stereotype gets this enhanced flavor if its a Brit. An American hardman is just some douche, but one with a British accent is something that catches your ear.
@nickgavis0305
@nickgavis0305 4 ай бұрын
Haha as an American I can say this is true
@timwinterhalter5233
@timwinterhalter5233 4 ай бұрын
our equivalent would be something like a tough-as-nails southerner
@callumlambert6558
@callumlambert6558 3 ай бұрын
Really great video mate! Very good editing and well spoken :)
@joegibbskins
@joegibbskins 4 ай бұрын
When I was growing up in America in the 80s and 90s, there was a wide spread belief that Brits were smartest than us, their vocabularies were broader, and they spoke so quickly and effortlessly. Then Oasis became a big band over here as well and suddenly we got to hear Liam Gallagher speak and it was like “oh most of Britain is actually working class and barely literate”. After that it was a lot easier for Americans to accept that hooliganism and all the fist fights and stabbings that are a part of daily life in the UK cause you’re just like us except with less guns
@pevebe
@pevebe 3 ай бұрын
well you actually still have more stabbings even with guns but i digress
@joegibbskins
@joegibbskins 3 ай бұрын
@@pevebe yeah we’re the descendants of unruly people your crown couldn’t govern, so that checks out
@JackHGUK
@JackHGUK 3 ай бұрын
Religious fanatics Europe kicked out you mean ​@@joegibbskins
@joegibbskins
@joegibbskins 3 ай бұрын
@@JackHGUK don’t forget convicts in Georgia, and the Africans Europeans bought and sold and the indigenous survivors of diseases Europeans brought. over.
@insert_name_here6487
@insert_name_here6487 3 ай бұрын
then the republicans blew it out of proportion for whataboutism's sake
@EpohDerf
@EpohDerf 4 ай бұрын
What a video, I've just found you and have a lot of catching up to do. Thanks. No Shane Meadows? He did some excellent telly and film with 'hard' characters that weren't just one dimensional. And of course we had Don in sexy beast - one if the best portrayals of unhinged menace ever from Sir Ben Kingsley...
@stooooogs8763
@stooooogs8763 4 ай бұрын
I imagine Cillian Murphy wont be too happy being referred to as british
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 4 ай бұрын
I don't think he did, did he?
@funkyfranx
@funkyfranx 4 ай бұрын
@@eadweard.He did include him in his list of British hardmen, but I think it’s obvious he means his character, wouldn’t exactly call Cillian Murphy a hardman in real life
@fuzzydunlop1988
@fuzzydunlop1988 4 ай бұрын
​@funkyfranx sure he's from caaaark
@justamanchimp
@justamanchimp 2 ай бұрын
Another thing with the reason why British hard men tv was so big is that the reality is, most men just aren’t hard lol, so it taps into that desire a lot of men have to be hard men. It’s kinda the same as celeb Hollywood documentaries, ppl watch to get a sense of what it might be like to be rich and famous, a desire a lot of people have but will never get to experience
@CY-R0_
@CY-R0_ 3 күн бұрын
My dad did the sound on lock stock and it definitely changed a lot about the perception of British culture in general!!
@SirSicCrusader
@SirSicCrusader 4 ай бұрын
Danny Dyer as a "hard man" always made me laugh, he's about as hard as melted butter.
@olliestudio45
@olliestudio45 4 ай бұрын
Let's be honest, that hardman thing is also part of your youtube persona / brand... ain't it Jimmy da G? Great vid of course.
@giantred
@giantred 4 ай бұрын
Good job man, you've got another subscriber with this one
@royfr8136
@royfr8136 2 ай бұрын
Wasn't expecting much, but this was good
@HectorLavoe-me4or
@HectorLavoe-me4or 4 ай бұрын
Ross Kemp interviewed us California gangs
@DrHouseMusic
@DrHouseMusic 2 ай бұрын
Alright algorithm, I've clicked on the video. You can stop showing it in my recommended now
@69waybetter
@69waybetter 4 ай бұрын
Great videos Jimmy
@ScottyDnB
@ScottyDnB 4 ай бұрын
Well this is the first vid i have seen of yours and it was superb! You have a new subscriber and i am looking forward to checking out your previous work.
@jamesrobinsons8086
@jamesrobinsons8086 4 ай бұрын
Great video mate, but some classic British hardmen you missed: Terry mccann - Minder Oz - Auf wiedersehen pet Yosser- Boys from the blackstuff Regan & Carter- The Sweeney
@CIMAmotor
@CIMAmotor 4 ай бұрын
Even DelBoy was a bit feared.
@charliezobel511
@charliezobel511 4 ай бұрын
Dennis Waterman RIP
@Charles2k
@Charles2k 4 ай бұрын
Some great and well written characters. Also great shows which actually depicted the real life people rather than the 80-90's films mentioned here.
@markbadger265
@markbadger265 4 ай бұрын
Bodie & doyle
@patmann9363
@patmann9363 4 ай бұрын
Do you remember a BBC One program called Gangsters from the 70's?
@KennyOspreay
@KennyOspreay 4 ай бұрын
Would love to see you do a video on the rise and fall of Bebo
@thevillainousqueenofhearts4976
@thevillainousqueenofhearts4976 3 ай бұрын
I gave a like simply because of your opening… it was beautiful
@SamLyn
@SamLyn 2 ай бұрын
Love these videos.
@kai_plays_khomus
@kai_plays_khomus 4 ай бұрын
I don't understand how you could fail to bring up Begbie from _Trainspotting_ - he's the perfect geezer. Admittedly he doesn't speak cockney though.. 😅
@Rr0gu3_5uture
@Rr0gu3_5uture 4 ай бұрын
Francis Begbie is your classic Scottish nutter, a psychopath. For me, I'd say the typical Geezer is more of a sorta, self-aggrandizing sociopath.
@vpgnto
@vpgnto 4 ай бұрын
titles: (1) How The "Hardman" Redefined British Culture; (2) Britain's Forgotten TV Tough Guy Era; (3) The Radical Overhaul of British Men in Movies; (4) [Again] How The "Hardman" Redefined British Culture; (5) The British Tough Guy Trope, Explained
@MrKruger88
@MrKruger88 7 күн бұрын
If you do a deeper dive onto the Hayes code, there were a lot of silly examples where films had to tow the line. You had to show that "crime doesn't pay" and so you'd have films were the bad guy was the main character, shown in a sympathetic light; but then as the end credits begin to roll, a cop car rolls up and arrests the main character. That was enough to claim they paid for their crimes.
@JiaPia3
@JiaPia3 3 ай бұрын
I really enjoy the content and comments on this channel. New sub ❤
@kai_plays_khomus
@kai_plays_khomus 4 ай бұрын
Isn't Murphy irish though?
@kierandoodykd
@kierandoodykd 4 ай бұрын
Cillian Murphy isn't British, home sprung
@PhoeniX199777
@PhoeniX199777 4 ай бұрын
None said hes british...
@loolfactorie
@loolfactorie 4 ай бұрын
There is a Danny Dyer 'real football factories' pisstake on youtube from the early 2000s, it's brilliant and worth a watch. Massively underrated.
@scorpzgca
@scorpzgca 4 ай бұрын
Amazing video on this for real they need to bring this archatype back
@mixodorians12
@mixodorians12 4 ай бұрын
Don't use Britain and England interchangeably.
@jim23mac
@jim23mac 2 ай бұрын
A little bit of pain never hurt anybody
@frankquither4980
@frankquither4980 2 ай бұрын
Bricktop from Snatch should have been on this!
@TheHypersonic55
@TheHypersonic55 3 ай бұрын
Mate, this was a cracking video. It's really well made, and I like the sprinkling of humour throughout. And when you mentioned Luton, I frigging lost it. Yeah if they make a film about my hometown, fuck that would be something else. 😂
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