The Broken Speed Manipulation of Welt x Asta | World 5 Clear

The Broken Speed Manipulation of Welt x Asta | World 5 Clear | Honkai: Star Rail

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Жыл бұрын

Also a great showcase of Natasha's dispel which other players underestimate since they think Bailu is much more stronger in every way due to misleading tier lists.

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@mahdibd Жыл бұрын

ah yes, the classic speed-related turn-based game trick

@dofiy3471 11 ай бұрын

Classic turn base pvp shit ass combo isn't it? One of the most hated combo in turn base pvp,the no turn combo Unfortunately this game has no pvp so this combo isn't really shine out This pve only game so people just trying to do as much damage as possible to the boss

@Sauju726 9 ай бұрын

@@dofiy3471ok?

@RadialSeeker113 Жыл бұрын

I run the same team with Dan heng instead of sushang. He benefits greatly from welt Slow + Asta speed + atk buff + ez talent procs with Asta and Nat

@patrykk7948 Жыл бұрын

Same here

@immort4730 Жыл бұрын

You can almost run 2 dps and no healer, you just need to make sure you have a cleanse

@QuanNguyen-vb8wr Жыл бұрын

@@immort4730 who can cleases other then natasha?

@chadumyentime2742 Жыл бұрын

@@QuanNguyen-vb8wr March 7th. She also have trace that if you shielded someone she'll cleanse 1 debuff.

@Iloverimjobs Жыл бұрын

@@chadumyentime2742 and bronya

@Shijaru64 Жыл бұрын

I wasn't expecting the level 40. I do happen to have all those chars. I just gotta train Asta and Sushang. Thanks for the showcase!

@s2wuolf508 Жыл бұрын

You can use Dan Heng instead of Sushang esp since its easy ti proc his extra dmg on slowed enemies

@s2wuolf508 Жыл бұрын

With bronya instead of Welt my lvl 40 Dan Heng critted for 20k

@Doflaminguard Жыл бұрын

@@s2wuolf508 nah, Sushang is required here for weakness break.

@s2wuolf508 Жыл бұрын

@@Doflaminguard Dan Heng also weakness breaks kafka and his ult benefits from slow????

@JustYourAverageInternetUser. Жыл бұрын

@@Doflaminguardman ur blind af kafka also has wind weaknsss

@Amalia19 Жыл бұрын

I managed to not let Kafka get any turn by abusing hunt and prioritizing my skill points for Welt instead of Asta, since Asta's speed buff will expire after your unit acted two times, while Welt's debuff will last until the enemy gets their turn which is never lol Also when you see Welt using his ultimate, you can see really huge red numbers (somewhere around 40+) to the enemy turn order, while Asta barely increase ally turn order by 20+, so i think Welt's ult > Asta's ult when it comes to making sure enemy never gets their turn, not to mention Welt's skill also slows enemy turn order by single digits which also helps

@rin0422 Жыл бұрын

I used Abundance path to clear this earlier today. Asta carry me too, she is just amazing with spd buff.

@mmei8030 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, used Dan Feng instead of Sushang. Cleared it one go 🥰 I couldn't make it work with the usual abundance path comp team

@kidsIIIII009 11 ай бұрын

I pretty much underestimated Asta right at the beginning of the game as i thought she’s not really good of a support, but thx to the video it just tells me how good she is even in the highest Lovell of games if used properly. She’s like a discounted Bronya just like how ppl say that Sushang is a Discount Seele

@ShakeyMac18 Жыл бұрын

It's maddening to me how many people are sleeping on the power of Welt+Asta.

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

Imagine a super hyper carry built hunt DPS + Welt and Asta. It will pretty much cheese any content. Granted of course that the element of your hunt DPS is the weakness of the enemy.

@RadiantCloudSky Жыл бұрын

Can I change Shusang with any dps?

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

@@RadiantCloudSky Any element weakness of the boss yea.

@guts3194 Жыл бұрын

@@LisaraScarlet bro idk how the boss is getting slowed when i play they show effect res

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

@@guts3194 A lot of bosses have 50% resist so yea, might be just bad luck.

@fimbulvetr6129 Жыл бұрын

To get the true speed feeling, either put the Playback Speed at 2x speed for Player POV, or .25x for Foe POV

@pa1ace Жыл бұрын

Since Welt and Asta are multihit, the Remembrance's freeze perks have many attempts to proc so even if enemy will get a turn, it will get skipped because of freeze.

@snappieboi5026 Жыл бұрын

It only does it one stack per turn. Multi hit doesn’t work

@pa1ace Жыл бұрын

@@snappieboi5026 not the 6(5) but the one with 2% freeze proc

@snappieboi5026 Жыл бұрын

@@pa1ace ohhhhh

@sxchneiler806 Жыл бұрын

I've already finished World 5 and 6, I am just farming now for the Crit DMG relics. I really need Welt so bad as I have 2 of his light cones and two 5 star relics for him.

@akira5404 Жыл бұрын

i can't tell if asta is genuinely op or she's dreamy's waifu but maybe both 😼

@AklyonX Жыл бұрын

And this is why speed is so important, always.

@LastLightgg Жыл бұрын

My team for this was Fire MC March Welt Natasha, didn't even have Sushang built to deal damage. Welt just told Kafka "No, bad girl" and March + Natasha got rid of the hypnotism, ezclap.

@jma42 Жыл бұрын

ppl still think speed buff is kinda not that powerful in this game because of non turn-restrictive ults, it instead makes it 2x even more powerful lol

@Sky-mr5vw Жыл бұрын

@Dreamy - Does the placement of the characters matter? Could you explain please

@Neloch4 Жыл бұрын

i ran remembrance for this one disassociation is crazy

@taokuroki 8 ай бұрын

Heya Dreamy. Since Asta and Welt have good synergy. I was wondering if we can use Himeko in this team too. And who would be good for the 4th slot. Thank you! 🙏

@LisaraScarlet 8 ай бұрын

Himeko is good as long as Asta is there as well. 4th slot can be any sustain but it might be worth looking into Fu Xuan. I'll have a Fu Xuan guide ready on her release. This video is really old though. Nowadays, I put Welt into an Imaginary team with Yukong and Luocha. I then add Silver Wolf which technically make the team mono element.

@seraphia Жыл бұрын

Sadly I don't have granpa Welt (been trying to get him) but damn this is really good.

@lightcraft7714 Жыл бұрын

I enjoy playing this world just to bully kafka with permanent stun and never ending turn. Welt is broken against enemies who are vulnerable to stun, Bronya is good as well for spamming turns. And once u stack enough hunt blessings the enemies dont get turns basically.

@GODCHAMA Жыл бұрын

This is why natasha can also sometimes be better than Bailu. Dispel is so overpowered but it's overlooked. This is why I don't trust tierlist from a game that just came out lmao.

@GODCHAMA Жыл бұрын

March 7th can also dispell debuffs the same way Natasha does with her Skill

@zonoharakun3611 Жыл бұрын

legend says that, that kafka is still sleeping right now

@ria_san Жыл бұрын

Sush our chicken lady

@DarkArisha Жыл бұрын

Welt+asta+the hunt is best combo and show that fast attack are the best defense

@gigyro Жыл бұрын

Will seele do good damage here? As long as I build other units to break Kafka’s weakness will seele be able to outperform sushang?

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

As long as you have someone else to weakness break Kafka, it would probably be fine.

@SnowyIceChannel Жыл бұрын

You can also use Remembrance or Abundance too with either Welt or Asta. I replace Asta with Seele just for extra damage and Seele speed buff also help triggering Remembrance freeze blessing.

@geminimaxxim Жыл бұрын

This is also doable with Fire Trailblazer instead of Nat, if you have good Hunt Blessings. Between Welt and Asta, Kafka never gets enough turns for Dominate to matter. Even able to full-auto it

@darellinares3956 Жыл бұрын

The domination has it’s own turns, so it doesn’t get slowed if you slow Kafka, it is much better to do with Natasha to get rid of the debuff.

@geminimaxxim Жыл бұрын

It was more that your own characters get so many turns, action advances, etc. that the Dominate turn never came up

@nixceed6747 Жыл бұрын

Used a natasha, march, Pmc, dan heng comp with nihility path easiest cheese of my life.

@armaros820 Жыл бұрын

i knew Welt would do stuff like this and wanted him but sadly did not roll him in my starter rolls so he will take a while to come home.

@TapJegi Жыл бұрын

same. Now i am grinding standard banner to get to 300 pulls in order to choose him. i am at 207 rn

@minaw4352 Жыл бұрын

Good luck guys. I hope you pull him before ur 300 choice.

@Shijaru64 Жыл бұрын

What blessing path did you choose for this run, Dreamy?

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

Hunt.

@caelussss Жыл бұрын

Is the Harmony light cone that gives that "advanced forward" buff upon using ult also work on Asta?

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

That's the best 4* harmony LC so yes.

@VitchAndVorty Жыл бұрын

@@LisaraScarlet The Dance3x?

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

@@VitchAndVorty Yes.

@VitchAndVorty Жыл бұрын

@@LisaraScarlet I see. Thanks.

@VitchAndVorty Жыл бұрын

Btw, Dan Heng can capitalize on that slow.

@MauveGun Жыл бұрын

When the sus hang'd, I fucking cried. Inspirational.

@leastliest Жыл бұрын

Definitely agreed, Bailu is not much better than Natasha, but Luocha is

@LimitPro1 Жыл бұрын

So basically you keep your turn

@anthonygibbons7036 Жыл бұрын

I’ve tried so many combinations, cannot get past this 🤦🏼‍♂️

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

Try Phy TB, Dan Heng, March and Natasha. If you can, invest on either March or Natasha's dispel trace. Or play around Preservation Path and hope you get the 20% dispel chance when getting a shield then upgrade it to 30% chance.

@anthonygibbons7036 Жыл бұрын

Ah I meant the story battle

@leilianesousa7816 Жыл бұрын

@@anthonygibbons7036 do u use atk and df foods?

@anthonygibbons7036 Жыл бұрын

@@leilianesousa7816 hi, i did and finally made it 🙌

@leilianesousa7816 Жыл бұрын

@@anthonygibbons7036 nic!!

@No-tk2hh Жыл бұрын

Welt, Asta AND Hunt focued deck? Dreamy not letting the ai play

@lilianne959 Жыл бұрын

While this is amazing, it shouldn't be encouraged for endgame. Forgotten Hall weeklies require you to kill the enemy in the least amount of turns, while with Simulated Universe you can get all your weekly points on any world without even reaching the final boss.

@goosefan1 Жыл бұрын

Could i replace sushang with seele or dan heng? Both r built but sushang isnt

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

Sushang is here just for faster break but Welt is more than enough for breaking Kafka.

@haydrch Жыл бұрын

Ah yes welt and asta never let your enemy move lmao

@Sengomusama Жыл бұрын

Currently i have Welt+Asta+Natasha and should i put yanqing because i got him before

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

I'm assuming you are trying to clear World 5? You can use Physical MC or Dan Heng if you don't want to build Yanqing yet.

@Sengomusama Жыл бұрын

@@LisaraScarlet actually I'm in world 3 and confused about who to invest more

@chrisdane2014 Жыл бұрын

what's a good alternative for your Sushang's light cone?

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

Can you name your hunt LCs?

@chrisdane2014 Жыл бұрын

@@LisaraScarlet I currently have: - River flows in spring - Arrows - Adversarial - Darting Arrow you can also give another that's not on the list so I can look forward on getting it in the future

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

@@chrisdane2014 River Flow is good. Especially since Hunt Path tends to hog turns, you won't get hit much.

@chrisdane2014 Жыл бұрын

@@LisaraScarlet Thank you!!

@calvinngullie3364 Жыл бұрын

I lost to gepard twice in world 3 After i immediately built asta and welt.. I finished gepard with full hp😂on all characters.. Dude never got a turn.. What could he do?

@ranran_edits Жыл бұрын

You should try using remembrance with this comp

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

I know how strong Remembrance once its complete and has gotten its core blessings like the one that forces dissociation to explode so you can re-apply it again faster. The annoying part is getting there, it needs all the right blessings before it shines unlike Hunt which isn't exactly demanding when it comes to the right blessings.

@gamingadda3577 Жыл бұрын

Do you use speed or attack boots on all of the charcters

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

SPD boots on all except the healer.

@Noaxid Жыл бұрын

Welt asta and dan heng is even worse tho i can kick amost every boss fight with the boss only fighting 2 or 3 time ...

@kuro9138 Жыл бұрын

what's the best relics and light cones for welt?

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

The farmable imaginary dmg set for relics. For LC, if you really got nothing else, just use Loop like me.

@rush_gamerzone4211 Жыл бұрын

how can i tell what is enemy resistance?

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

When you check the enemies before entering, you can tap them and see the resistance icon on their frame.

@mcsmouche Жыл бұрын

I have welt’s LC but no welt 😭😭😭

@cursey7304 Жыл бұрын

what does the numbers on the turn order mean?

@tuzngynktck Жыл бұрын

the character with lower number attacks first (based on speed)

@BakwanEnak_ Жыл бұрын

Can i use Bailu instead Natasha? Cause my Nat's in low lvl rn

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

You'll need some way to cleanse Kafka's debuffs. Either play Abundance or Preservation Path so you have a way to cleanse debuffs.

@BakwanEnak_ Жыл бұрын

@@LisaraScarlet thank you

@sedih6417 Жыл бұрын

Me having hard time at same su at even higher level lol. Skill issue. I really want to see the relics main stats for my reference. Should i really farm relics at lvl35.

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

You're supposed to farm W6 while trying to get to TBL40. It has the best drop rate and the gears are end-game. DEF set for your Fire MC or March. Crit set for your DPSes.

@sedih6417 Жыл бұрын

@@LisaraScarlet ill do that after i farm my team to lvl 50. Thank you for the showcases and the answers dreamy.

@bittersuet Жыл бұрын

@@LisaraScarlet sorry to ask but what's W6? Also do you know if the light cone The Moles Welcome You stack infinitely? Or does it stack only once separately with Basic Atk, Skill and Ult?

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

@@bittersuet W6 = World 6. The Moles only stack up to 5x.

@salsasalsa943 Жыл бұрын

i want welt so bad

@Zhiowe Жыл бұрын

time to level my asta since im a welt man >:)

@zerioification Жыл бұрын

Is it really necessary to spam Asta's skill every time? Since there's no fire weakness, I thought it was a waste

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

Skill = 30 energy. Basic = 20 energy.

@zerioification Жыл бұрын

@@LisaraScarlet sure. But I mean, is it necessary to use her ult that often? It's not like the speed buff going to expire that fast. I imagined it will be more worthwhile to use Sushang's skill?

@LisaraScarlet Жыл бұрын

@@zerioification It does expire fast especially with how much I hog turns. Sushang's skill or the team acting faster? I prefer the latter. You can play the way you want though, it's not like I am forcing you to play like me.

@Tgyvilyas Жыл бұрын

Meanwhile me who has upgraded light cones and characters to 50 lvl and can’t pass world 3 😂

@kkbisco Жыл бұрын

Have u leveled your traces + relics? Also the hunt path is super helpful too

@hieutrang3635 Жыл бұрын

Is Welt the only character having 100% chance of giving debuff to the enemies?

@Amalia19 Жыл бұрын

It's 100% base chance, then reduced by the enemy Effect RES, so it lands most of the time but it's not guaranteed

@arcallium Жыл бұрын

Pela also has 100% base chance of DEF Shred, but yea its still reduced by Effect RES.

@RuiNDieM1988 Жыл бұрын

This is why I wish I had Welt's light cone. It's not the best damage option for him but it's the best consistent option for a mix of debuffs and damage.

@qwenhur9973 Жыл бұрын

I use sampo instead sunshang 👌

@whyamistillhere3258 Жыл бұрын

Instructions unclear: didn’t get welt

@kalodawg8297 Жыл бұрын

210 speed lmao

@Moshsy Жыл бұрын

Hehehe Welt is literally the only Imaginary character in the whole entire game as of now. Hope they add more cause it's looking kinda dry for them Imaginary element.

@RuiNDieM1988 Жыл бұрын

They have one coming up. The one from Dan Hung's story quests. And maybe the pink diviner? I can't remember

@kirblicious Жыл бұрын

Pela is a 4* imaginary

@anasfahmi89 Жыл бұрын

Luocha is upcoming the second half of 1.1, he's the one we got to try with Dan Heng & Sushang in the story, Luocha is Abundance Imaginary who heals scale on ATK

@leilianesousa7816 Жыл бұрын

@@kirblicious pela is ice...

@kirblicious Жыл бұрын

@@leilianesousa7816 i thought we were talking about nihility😭😭

@moores4415 Жыл бұрын

Brooo i want Welttt, instead i got Gepard twice.

@leilianesousa7816 Жыл бұрын

Gepard is good too, is the best shielder in game

@jmusic8556 Жыл бұрын

Doesn't need asta btw I only use welt And Kafka not gonna get her turn

@cehrise Жыл бұрын

omg i already use this team with seele 😆 its sooo broken

@cehrise Жыл бұрын

also may i add-lvl 40 characters against kafka? omg 👁️👁️

@isaac7272 Жыл бұрын

seele with welt and asta + healer/shielder probably the top of single target comp right now. It will last for long time for sure.

@dedcet634 Жыл бұрын

what skill buff is that? i only know tanker buff skill causes spamming shield feels safer ah never mind, it's hunt

@anonimoperez6308 Жыл бұрын

It's broken!!!

@keqingdihati8334 Жыл бұрын

My clara solos kafka ez win 😎

@ajibdc4032 Жыл бұрын

Asta 10% + Welt 10% + Hunt Resonance 80% do the job. Even without Asta and Welt, this thing is normal on simulated universe using Hunt. Poor guy bad content.